Where the penalty for miscarriage is ...

Where the penalty for miscarriage is jail

There are 6 comments on the Newsday story from Oct 18, 2013, titled Where the penalty for miscarriage is jail. In it, Newsday reports that:

El Salvador has one of the toughest anti-abortion laws in the world. A side-effect is that women who suffer miscarriages are sometimes suspected of inducing an abortion - and can even be jailed for murder.

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Morgana 9

“And the Horse You Rode in On”

Since: Sep 08

Minneapolis

#1 Oct 19, 2013
""The strict abortion law has other serious human rights implications.
Suicide was the most common cause of death in 2011 among 10-to-19-year-old girls, half of whom were pregnant, according to Health Ministry figures.

It was also the third most common cause of maternal mortality.

Individual members of the current FMLN government, particularly Health Minister Maria Isabel Rodriguez, criticised the abortion law during the controversy over Beatriz's case. But the government has made no attempt to repeal or relax the law since coming to power in 2009, as it remains popular with large parts of the conservative population, who revere the Church and pro-life religious groups such as Si a la Vida (Yes to Life).

The Arena Party, which is strongly allied with the Church, is favourite to win next year's General Election.

But Esther Major, Amnesty International's El Salvador expert, describes the country's abortion law as "cruel and discriminatory".

"Women and girls end up in prison for being unwilling, or simply tragically unable, to carry the pregnancy to term," she says."""

This is what happens to women/girls when misogynistic patriarch religion influences government. Their lives by law are reduced to incubator status. Zero respect for their lives or well being. Coming to America if the religious maniacs are allowed their way.
Katie

Puyallup, WA

#2 Oct 19, 2013
Morgana 9 wrote:
""The strict abortion law has other serious human rights implications.
Suicide was the most common cause of death in 2011 among 10-to-19-year-old girls, half of whom were pregnant, according to Health Ministry figures.
It was also the third most common cause of maternal mortality.
Individual members of the current FMLN government, particularly Health Minister Maria Isabel Rodriguez, criticised the abortion law during the controversy over Beatriz's case. But the government has made no attempt to repeal or relax the law since coming to power in 2009, as it remains popular with large parts of the conservative population, who revere the Church and pro-life religious groups such as Si a la Vida (Yes to Life).

The Arena Party, which is strongly allied with the Church, is favourite to win next year's General Election.
But Esther Major, Amnesty International's El Salvador expert, describes the country's abortion law as "cruel and discriminatory".
"Women and girls end up in prison for being unwilling, or simply tragically unable, to carry the pregnancy to term," she says."""
This is what happens to women/girls when misogynistic patriarch religion influences government. Their lives by law are reduced to incubator status. Zero respect for their lives or well being. Coming to America if the religious maniacs are allowed their way.
The article is a sad commentary on how little women matter. When a young woman didn't even know she was pregnant, had a tragic miscarriage, but was imprisoned because 11 months prior she mentioned to a co-worker she "might" be pregnant??? WTF? Where is justice in that?

Morgana 9

“And the Horse You Rode in On”

Since: Sep 08

Minneapolis

#3 Oct 19, 2013
Katie wrote:
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The article is a sad commentary on how little women matter. When a young woman didn't even know she was pregnant, had a tragic miscarriage, but was imprisoned because 11 months prior she mentioned to a co-worker she "might" be pregnant??? WTF? Where is justice in that?
There isn't any justice. Under patriarch religious regimes women are property of men and fetuses expected to be subservient to both. They do not matter in the least. There is a absolute hatred of women in these religions that they cleverly try to cover but slip up in these instances.
Ocean56

AOL

#4 Oct 20, 2013
Morgana 9 wrote:
There isn't any justice. Under patriarch religious regimes women are property of men and fetuses expected to be subservient to both. They do not matter in the least. There is a absolute hatred of women in these religions that they cleverly try to cover but slip up in these instances.
Absolutely agree. And isn't El Salvador dominated by the Catholic Church to begin with? When you have a country that is dominated by a patriarchal religion which hates women -- but pretends it doesn't -- horrible laws like this one are no surprise.

Let's see how long it takes for Dan or some other religionist to say we're "hyperventilating" or something equally moronic. Religionists are experts at deflection, if nothing else.

Morgana 9

“And the Horse You Rode in On”

Since: Sep 08

Minneapolis

#5 Oct 20, 2013
Ocean56 wrote:
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Absolutely agree. And isn't El Salvador dominated by the Catholic Church to begin with? When you have a country that is dominated by a patriarchal religion which hates women -- but pretends it doesn't -- horrible laws like this one are no surprise.
Let's see how long it takes for Dan or some other religionist to say we're "hyperventilating" or something equally moronic. Religionists are experts at deflection, if nothing else.
Correct El Salvador and the rest of the mentioned countries are under the foot of catholicism just like Ireland. Dan would say the laws are formed by the governments not the CC, but where the hell is the CC defending these jailed women? They are not, they are sitting back in their gowns/robes applauding because like you and I know...they hate women.

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Ocean56

AOL

#6 Oct 20, 2013
Morgana 9 wrote:
Correct. El Salvador and the rest of the mentioned countries are under the foot of catholicism just like Ireland. Dan would say the laws are formed by the governments not the CC, but where the hell is the CC defending these jailed women? They are not, they are sitting back in their gowns/robes applauding because like you and I know...they hate women.
Exactly. All Catholic-Church defenders like Dan deny that it is the CHURCH which influences the government to make these horrible laws against women. It's the only way they can pretend their church "doesn't hate women," and they can sleep better at night.

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