Rapert's abortion ban is unconstituti...

Rapert's abortion ban is unconstitutional

There are 137 comments on the Arkansas Times story from Feb 10, 2013, titled Rapert's abortion ban is unconstitutional. In it, Arkansas Times reports that:

Duh. Sen. Jason Rapert's bill to ban abortions from the 12th week of pregnancy onward is unconstitutional under every controlling legal precedent.

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Morgana 9

“And the Horse You Rode in On”

Since: Sep 08

Minneapolis

#1 Feb 10, 2013
LOL!!!

I see the problem.

You have republicans in your vagina.
the real guest

Ridgedale, MO

#2 Feb 11, 2013
Actually, Roe v Wade only allowed abortions during the first trimester, and the decision was based on science's inability to determine when life begins.

Today, with the advancements in science and medicine, it has been proven beyond all doubt that life begins at conception.

In any event, there is nothing unconstitutional about banning abortions after the 12th week of pregnancy.

Only brainsick psychos could possibly support doing this to helpless little babies:

http://www.abortioninstruments.com/

Morgana 9

“And the Horse You Rode in On”

Since: Sep 08

Minneapolis

#4 Feb 11, 2013
the real guest wrote:
Actually, Roe v Wade only allowed abortions during the first trimester, and the decision was based on science's inability to determine when life begins.
Today, with the advancements in science and medicine, it has been proven beyond all doubt that life begins at conception.
In any event, there is nothing unconstitutional about banning abortions after the 12th week of pregnancy.
Only brainsick psychos could possibly support doing this to helpless little babies:
http://www.abortioninstruments.com/
Only brainwashed woman hating psychos shoot their mouth off about things they don't care to understand. A womans life comes first.

Read it dumb ass.

http://abcnews.go.com/Health/irish-abortion-d...
Ocean56

AOL

#5 Feb 11, 2013
Morgana 9 wrote:
Only brainwashed woman hating psychos shoot their mouth off about things they don't care to understand. A woman's life comes first.
Exactly. It's just that the right-wing nutjobs can't deal with WOMEN coming first, or making their own sexual and reproductive decisions without a man's permission.

I say too bad for these imbeciles. I hope this latest moron's bill is rejected as being UNconstitutional.
Dan

Omaha, NE

#6 Feb 11, 2013
Morgana 9 wrote:
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Only brainwashed woman hating psychos shoot their mouth off about things they don't care to understand. A womans life comes first.
Read it dumb ass.
http://abcnews.go.com/Health/irish-abortion-d...
Rabbit hole.

Abortion isn't employed as a lifesaving measure for the overwhelming majority of those seeking it.

“Blessed Be”

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#7 Feb 11, 2013
the real guest wrote:
Actually, Roe v Wade only allowed abortions during the first trimester, and the decision was based on science's inability to determine when life begins.
Today, with the advancements in science and medicine, it has been proven beyond all doubt that life begins at conception.
In any event, there is nothing unconstitutional about banning abortions after the 12th week of pregnancy.
Only brainsick psychos could possibly support doing this to helpless little babies:
http://www.abortioninstruments.com/
Wrong. Roe v Wade allows for abortions the entire pregnancy. It limits what restrictions a state may place on abortions at certain times.

"Conception" is a useless term, as it is defined as either fertilization OR implantation, depending. What has been determined by science is that life is a process, not an event, that it began eons ago, and has been in continuum ever since, that the sperm and ovum-the Haploid stage of human reproduction-are also alive, and that embryogenesis occurs at fertilization, and pregnancy at implantation.

Since a woman has the constitutional right to "life, liberty and property", yes it is unconstitutional to ban abortions after 12 weeks.

Only an naive fool would assume they must educate others on what is involved in an abortion.

“Blessed Be”

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#8 Feb 11, 2013
Dan wrote:
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Rabbit hole.
Abortion isn't employed as a lifesaving measure for the overwhelming majority of those seeking it.
And 88% of all abortions occur at 12 weeks and before anyway.
someoneuknow

Ravenna, OH

#9 Feb 11, 2013
Bullticky bitner! You are wrong. Tell them about your own at 27 weeks. I know.

“Blessed Be”

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#10 Feb 11, 2013
someoneuknow wrote:
Bullticky bitner! You are wrong. Tell them about your own at 27 weeks. I know.
You're lying. Not only have I never had an abortion, but you don't know me IRL. You're just a lying Troll.

Morgana 9

“And the Horse You Rode in On”

Since: Sep 08

Minneapolis

#11 Feb 11, 2013
Dan wrote:
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Rabbit hole.
Abortion isn't employed as a lifesaving measure for the overwhelming majority of those seeking it.
What rabbit hole?

Abortion is legal in the first trimester 12 weeks. It is legal after the first trimester if a womans life or health is in danger. But not where the CC is involved. They will gladly let the women die who could be saved. That was the point of my link, and I think you knew that.
the real guest

Ridgedale, MO

#12 Feb 12, 2013
Bitner wrote:
Wrong. Roe v Wade allows for abortions the entire pregnancy.[QUOTE]

You've obviously never read the decision. Another example of your psychosis - a break from reality.

You can continue to lie to yourself all you want, but that doesn't mean normal people will join you in your delusion.

[QUOTE]What has been determined by science is that life is a process
Human life begins at conception. That is no longer a debate, it's a scientific fact. Yet again, you pro abortion people are lying to yourselves in order to continue your support for the unimaginable. You have severe mental problems, as does anyone who supports ripping the arms and legs off of helpless little babies and crushing their tiny skulls. You're sick in the head.

Morgana 9

“And the Horse You Rode in On”

Since: Sep 08

Minneapolis

#13 Feb 12, 2013
the real guest wrote:
<quoted text>
Human life begins at conception. That is no longer a debate, it's a scientific fact. Yet again, you pro abortion people are lying to yourselves in order to continue your support for the unimaginable. You have severe mental problems, as does anyone who supports ripping the arms and legs off of helpless little babies and crushing their tiny skulls. You're sick in the head.
Again, I have seen close up with my own eyes the result of a 3 month miscarriage. Have you? Of course not, in your zeal to override and control women you have lost all sense of reality. The woman is of no concern to you. We get that. You have severe problems with women called misogynist.
Ocean56

AOL

#14 Feb 12, 2013
Morgana 9 wrote:
Again, I have seen close up with my own eyes the result of a 3 month miscarriage. Have you? Of course not, in your zeal to override and control women you have lost all sense of reality. The woman is of no concern to you. We get that. You have severe problems with women called misogynist.
Exactly. Luckily for all women, goofballs like "realguest" DON'T make our sexual and reproductive decisions for us, no matter how much they WANT to.

“Blessed Be”

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#15 Feb 12, 2013
the real guest wrote:
<quoted text>
Human life begins at conception. That is no longer a debate, it's a scientific fact. Yet again, you pro abortion people are lying to yourselves in order to continue your support for the unimaginable. You have severe mental problems, as does anyone who supports ripping the arms and legs off of helpless little babies and crushing their tiny skulls. You're sick in the head.
You are wrong, for the reasons I've already given, none of which were you able to refute. Your hysteria is duly noted.
Dan

Omaha, NE

#16 Feb 12, 2013
Morgana 9 wrote:
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What rabbit hole?
Abortion is legal in the first trimester 12 weeks. It is legal after the first trimester if a womans life or health is in danger. But not where the CC is involved. They will gladly let the women die who could be saved. That was the point of my link, and I think you knew that.
That's the rabbit hole I was referring to. The one you're running down now.

Abortion, still, isn't employed as a life-saving measure for the woman in the overwhelming majority of occurrences.
the real guest

Ridgedale, MO

#17 Feb 12, 2013
Morgana 9 wrote:
Again, I have seen close up with my own eyes the result of a 3 month miscarriage. Have you?
Yes. But miscarriage is not murder. You're comparing apples to oranges to avoid facing the truth.
Of course not, in your zeal to override and control women you have lost all sense of reality.
I think we should "control" anyone who wants to butcher other human beings. My concern is the gruesome murder of millions of innocent little babies, something your sick mind refuses to acknowledge even occurs.

I wonder if you, like society at large, believe we should jail those who foul the nest of the bald eagle. You see, in our society, the egg of a scavenger bird is deemed more precious than a living human being. But of course I doubt you'd see anything wrong with that.

“Blessed Be”

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#18 Feb 12, 2013
the real guest wrote:
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Yes. But miscarriage is not murder. You're comparing apples to oranges to avoid facing the truth.
<quoted text>
I think we should "control" anyone who wants to butcher other human beings. My concern is the gruesome murder of millions of innocent little babies, something your sick mind refuses to acknowledge even occurs.
I wonder if you, like society at large, believe we should jail those who foul the nest of the bald eagle. You see, in our society, the egg of a scavenger bird is deemed more precious than a living human being. But of course I doubt you'd see anything wrong with that.
Endangered species are protected, because it's in our best interest to do so. Humanity is not endangered.

There is no "gruesome murder of millions of innocent little babies".

A miscarriage is a spontaneous abortion. And the result of one looks the same as the result of 88% of all induced abortions.

You're hysterical. Take a tranquilizer.

“Blessed Be”

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#19 Feb 12, 2013
the real guest wrote:
<quoted text>
Human life begins at conception. That is no longer a debate, it's a scientific fact. Yet again, you pro abortion people are lying to yourselves in order to continue your support for the unimaginable. You have severe mental problems, as does anyone who supports ripping the arms and legs off of helpless little babies and crushing their tiny skulls. You're sick in the head.
Ah, I missed the incorrect quotes before.

I have, indeed, read the Roe v Wade decision. YOU may have read it, but you failed to understand it.

Roe v Wade does not limit abortions at all. Ever. It places limits on how the states can restrict abortions, should they choose to do so. Most do, to one degree or another. Some do not.
the real guest

Ridgedale, MO

#20 Feb 12, 2013
Bitner wrote:
Endangered species are protected, because it's in our best interest to do so.
So you place more value on a bird's egg than an unborn human being. I'm not surprised.
There is no "gruesome murder of millions of innocent little babies".
Yeah, whatever you have to keep telling yourself to justify your support of something so barbaric it shocks the conscience.
A miscarriage is a spontaneous abortion. And the result of one looks the same as the result of 88% of all induced abortions.
Yes, and people die every day from accidents, some quite gruesome. That doesn't justify murder just because the end result may look the same.

You had your ass royally kicked on the other thread, now you're over here diving headlong into sheer idiocy.
Dan

Omaha, NE

#21 Feb 12, 2013
Bitner wrote:
<quoted text>
Endangered species are protected, because it's in our best interest to do so. Humanity is not endangered.
There is no "gruesome murder of millions of innocent little babies".
A miscarriage is a spontaneous abortion. And the result of one looks the same as the result of 88% of all induced abortions.
You're hysterical. Take a tranquilizer.
"There is no "gruesome murder of millions of innocent little babies".

What are you taking issue with here? The "gruesome" part, the "millions" number or the "babies" part?

I mean, they aren't fetal pigs or something, Bit. The procedure is bloody, and the incidents do number into the millions.

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