PAVONE: The merciless mind of the abortionist

May 2, 2013 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: Washington Times

Of the many lessons to be learned from the Kermit Gosnell trial, which I have watched in the courtroom, one is that abortion not only destroys babies and their mothers; it destroys the doctors who perform them.

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Nothing surprising here. Progressive desensitization to killing preborn babies ultimately and completely sears whatever conscience the abortionist used to have.

"... Each of us has a natural psychological and physical barrier to killing someone. In normal circumstances, we just can’t bring ourselves to do it. This is part of our humanity. Killing is easier when one dehumanizes the victim first. Bullies engage in name-calling before beating up their victims. Yet in dehumanizing the victim, the perpetrator dehumanizes himself. So it is with abortionists.

"What we find is that abortionists normally begin medical training with high hopes that they will help humanity. Most of them, however, come from a childhood marked with abuse or neglect, and have low self-worth. An esteemed mentor may take them aside to show them an abortion, and the process of dehumanization is accelerated as soon as the abortionist-in-training refuses to listen to the voice of conscience. Dr. Ney explains in his book “The Centurion’s Pathway”:“They quell their natural protest,‘no, you mustn’t do that,’ much like they stilled a protest at their own mistreatment. Once they have passively participated in an abortion, they must begin to rationalize to themselves why they did not protest.”

"Dr. David Brewer, a former abortionist, tells his story:“I can remember that day watching the first abortion . I saw a little tiny head, and I saw a piece of a leg, and I saw a tiny hand, and I saw an arm. You know, it was like somebody put a hot poker into me . I had a conscience and that hurt. That was a very hard experience for me to go through, emotionally. So I did what a lot of us do throughout our life, we don’t do anything. I didn’t talk with anybody about it. and do you know what happened? I got to see another abortion. You know what? That one hurt, too. But I kept seeing abortions, and it hurt a little bit less every time I saw one. Do you know what happened next? I got to sit down and do one . The first one that I did was kind of hard. It was like hurting again like a hot poker. But after a while, it got to where it didn’t hurt”(Testimony at “Meet the Abortion Providers” conference in Chicago).
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abortion "doctor". Isn't that an oxymoron?
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When you adopt unwanted babies, your comments will have some conviction. Currently, you're pissing into the wind, to cool your hypocritical anger.
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Bushwhacker wrote:
When you adopt unwanted babies, your comments will have some conviction. Currently, you're pissing into the wind, to cool your hypocritical anger.
Typical response from your side. So if you're against homeless people you should give them all a home also? I am for choice on the matter by the way-you can choose to not become pregnant, minus the exceptions. 93% of all abortions are done in place of birth control. You have a problem with people being responsible for their own actions?

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93% of all abortions are done in place of birth control.

proof please....from a reliable source
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godless by choice wrote:
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93% of all abortions are done in place of birth control.
proof please....from a reliable source
I can't recall exactly where I saw that, but here are some sites. Are you Godless by choice? How did you make God go away?

http://www.guttmacher.org/pubs/FB-Unintended-...

http://women.webmd.com/tc/abortion-reasons-wo...

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I can't recall exactly where I saw that, Are you Godless by choice? How did you make God go away?

thanks for the links,i'm godless by choice because i don't have time for imaginary friends

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liberals lie wrote:
<quoted text>Typical response from your side. So if you're against homeless people you should give them all a home also? I am for choice on the matter by the way-you can choose to not become pregnant, minus the exceptions. 93% of all abortions are done in place of birth control. You have a problem with people being responsible for their own actions?
What exceptions?

So you are good under certain conditions if a woman murders the unborn? But if SHE has irresponsible sex you would like her to become a mother as punishment?

Go ahead CONservative....explain it to us.
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I can't recall exactly where I saw that, Are you Godless by choice? How did you make God go away?
thanks for the links,i'm godless by choice because i don't have time for imaginary friends
Why do you think God is imaginary? You need proof? Open your eyes and see his creation. He says in the Bible that he knew YOU while you were still in your mothers womb.
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What exceptions?
So you are good under certain conditions if a woman murders the unborn? But if SHE has irresponsible sex you would like her to become a mother as punishment?
Go ahead CONservative....explain it to us.
The exception I refer to is when pregnancy is out of the womans control. I never said I was for abortion for any reason. You trying to put words in my mouth? Being a mother is a punishment? Was your mother pro-abortion? I guess not-you're here. I don't know how old you are, but 1 out of 3 unborn babies are killed before they are born in america today. If you don't think something is wrong with that then I guess there is no point in debating.

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Why do you think God is imaginary? You need proof? Open your eyes and see his creation. He says in the Bible that he knew YOU while you were still in your mothers womb.
The bible is a book written by "men" straight from their imaginations. A pity you wish to force people to live according to a work of fiction.

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The exception I refer to is when pregnancy is out of the womans control. I never said I was for abortion for any reason. You trying to put words in my mouth? Being a mother is a punishment? Was your mother pro-abortion? I guess not-you're here. I don't know how old you are, but 1 out of 3 unborn babies are killed before they are born in america today. If you don't think something is wrong with that then I guess there is no point in debating.
I will ask again.....I will type slower so perhaps you might keep up.

What exception are you referring to? You are either pro choice in some circumstances or you are anti choice in all circumstances...which is it?

YES forced to gestate and become a mother against your will is punishment. My mother was pro choice. She "chose" to continue her pregnancy, she "chose" to become a mother. I guess that is beyond your comprehension...women choosing their path. Why does that bother you?

I don't think there is anything wrong with choice. I think you Cons would be shitting yourself if BC was 100% used and effective and women chose 1 out of 3 not to procreate. You would be crying the blues about contraceptives just as you do about abortion. Your need to control women proceeds you. Why deny it?
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Morgana 9 wrote:
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I will ask again.....I will type slower so perhaps you might keep up.
What exception are you referring to? You are either pro choice in some circumstances or you are anti choice in all circumstances...which is it?
YES forced to gestate and become a mother against your will is punishment. My mother was pro choice. She "chose" to continue her pregnancy, she "chose" to become a mother. I guess that is beyond your comprehension...women choosing their path. Why does that bother you?
I don't think there is anything wrong with choice. I think you Cons would be shitting yourself if BC was 100% used and effective and women chose 1 out of 3 not to procreate. You would be crying the blues about contraceptives just as you do about abortion. Your need to control women proceeds you. Why deny it?
Make up all the excuses you want to justify the killing of the unborn. None of your reasons are worse than killing an unborn child. Becoming pregnant and having a child isn't a punishment. I fathered two children in my younger years and raised them even though it was bad timing, I would do it again. Nobody forces women to be pregnant-they do it to themselves(men too).
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Morgana 9 wrote:
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I will ask again.....I will type slower so perhaps you might keep up.
What exception are you referring to? You are either pro choice in some circumstances or you are anti choice in all circumstances...which is it?
YES forced to gestate and become a mother against your will is punishment. My mother was pro choice. She "chose" to continue her pregnancy, she "chose" to become a mother. I guess that is beyond your comprehension...women choosing their path. Why does that bother you?
I don't think there is anything wrong with choice. I think you Cons would be shitting yourself if BC was 100% used and effective and women chose 1 out of 3 not to procreate. You would be crying the blues about contraceptives just as you do about abortion. Your need to control women proceeds you. Why deny it?
Let me "read this to you slowly" so you can understand. I said earlier that I was for choice-the choice to not get pregnant. I'm not for abortion at all. It is very much my business also as it is a moral and legal issue which needs to be regulated by law.

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<quoted text>Make up all the excuses you want to justify the killing of the unborn. None of your reasons are worse than killing an unborn child. Becoming pregnant and having a child isn't a punishment. I fathered two children in my younger years and raised them even though it was bad timing, I would do it again. Nobody forces women to be pregnant-they do it to themselves(men too).
Make up all the excuses YOU want! YOU fathered/sired two children meaning you merely had an orgasm and carried no risks of a pregnancy or child birth. YOU did nothing! But here you are to insist that WOMEN gestate and carry 100% of the risk! HOW VERY BOLD of YOU! Your need to CONTROL women PROCEEDS YOU!

With your ANTI CHOICE stance you are admittedly pro forced gestation in the circumstances of rape. YOU are a MISOGYNIST that thinks women are for ONE thing only. YOU and your RELIGION thT DEEM WOMEN SECOND CLASS.

When you re able to carry the medical condition of pregnancy and child birth instead of sitting on the sideline with your big mouth espousing your religious nonsense than maybe...just maybe you would carry an ounce of credibility. Being FORCED to be a mother is PUNISHMENT and until you can walk in them shoes you religious based opinion is dismissed. Got it?

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<quoted text>Let me "read this to you slowly" so you can understand. I said earlier that I was for choice-the choice to not get pregnant. I'm not for abortion at all. It is very much my business also as it is a moral and legal issue which needs to be regulated by law.
IT IS NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS!

Just as any other medical condition a woman may have is NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS.

GET OVER YOURSELF!

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The exception I refer to is when pregnancy is out of the womans control. I never said I was for abortion for any reason. You trying to put words in my mouth? Being a mother is a punishment? Was your mother pro-abortion? I guess not-you're here. I don't know how old you are, but 1 out of 3 unborn babies are killed before they are born in america today. If you don't think something is wrong with that then I guess there is no point in debating.
One, to the woman who doesn't wish to remain pregnant, being forced to do so by law would be a punishment.

Two, "baby" is slang for infant, and infants are already born. It's also a term of endearment for just about everything under the sun. I can call my youngest "Baby", but she's 19, and not really one.

Three, your stats are wrong. Less than 1 in 4 pregnancies are terminated in this country.

Four, there is nothing wrong with a woman making her own medical decisions. It's not your business if it's not your pregnancy.

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liberals lie wrote:
<quoted text>Let me "read this to you slowly" so you can understand. I said earlier that I was for choice-the choice to not get pregnant. I'm not for abortion at all. It is very much my business also as it is a moral and legal issue which needs to be regulated by law.
It is already regulated by law. And no, no woman's pregnancy is any of your business.

Morals are subjective, and relative to the person/group holding them. Yours apply only to you, and have nothing to do with another person's choices.

Getting pregnant is not a choice, it's a biological function that is beyond a woman's control. If it was a choice, no woman would be infertile, or have a hard time getting pregnant when they want to. Having sex is a choice, yes, but having sex is not automatic consent to carry a resulting pregnancy to term. No more than getting behind the wheel of a car is agreement to live with a treatable medical condition if one is in an accident. Nope, not even if one CAUSED the accident themselves.

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<quoted text>Make up all the excuses you want to justify the killing of the unborn. None of your reasons are worse than killing an unborn child. Becoming pregnant and having a child isn't a punishment. I fathered two children in my younger years and raised them even though it was bad timing, I would do it again. Nobody forces women to be pregnant-they do it to themselves(men too).
Men don't get pregnant. Didn't anyone ever tell you that?

Your choices, or more correctly the choices of the woman/women you got pregnant, are irrelevant to anyone else. No one is obligated to make the same choices.
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Morgana 9 wrote:
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IT IS NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS!
Just as any other medical condition a woman may have is NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS.
GET OVER YOURSELF!
Don't blow a gasket toots. Its not a medical condition, its an unborn baby, and its my business. Get over it.

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