Letter: Why don't more grasp that abo...

Letter: Why don't more grasp that abortion is killing of the innocent

There are 114 comments on the Lansing State Journal story from Feb 4, 2013, titled Letter: Why don't more grasp that abortion is killing of the innocent. In it, Lansing State Journal reports that:

Their high level of rationalization and ignorance of the facts is beyond my comprehension.

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Morgana 9

“And the Horse You Rode in On”

Since: Sep 08

Minneapolis

#86 Mar 2, 2013
kaylayossi wrote:
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Lol! Nothing I say can come close to the things you call people, and everyone knows it. You're a stalker though, going and finding posts of mine. I wouldn't waste my time on yours though, not worth my time. Thanks for taking the time though. Have you always been a creeper? Like I said, you can't prove what I said is wrong, so off you go changing the subject to cover your ignorance. It's been noted!
Who is everyone? Care to take a poll and prove your point? Of course not.

A stalker?? AYFKM...this is a forum dimwit and you are an attention seeking bimbo.

There is nothing to prove. The facts are simple, women make the decision over "their" medical/physical well being they are not obligated to be a life support system regardless of how much you kick and scream and deny that fact.

“Reality is better than truth.”

Since: Nov 09

Indianapolis

#87 Mar 2, 2013
I've posted many factual entries; you've chosen to slap your hands over your ears, chanting "lalalalalalalalalalala ".
kaylayossi wrote:
Funny how petey and morgana can't come up with anything but insults. Very telling, indeed.
Ocean56

AOL

#88 Mar 3, 2013
kaylayossi wrote:
Lol! Nothing I say can come close to the things you call people, and everyone knows it. You're a stalker though, going and finding posts of mine. I wouldn't waste my time on yours though, not worth my time. Thanks for taking the time though. Have you always been a creeper? Like I said, you can't prove what I said is wrong, so off you go changing the subject to cover your ignorance. It's been noted!
Oh PLEASE, Kaykay, give the incessant whining a rest. It is hardly "stalking" to point out your blatant HYPOCRISY, which Morgana did very well. You whine about "lame insults" (or something equally ridiculous) when YOU frequently insult prochoice posters here.

You ARE familiar with the saying "people who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones," aren't you? You should be, since YOU are one of those people. Your posts are proof of that.
Dan

Omaha, NE

#89 Mar 4, 2013
cpeter1313 wrote:
"In simple answer to the above question: an organism is defined by more than its ability to survive in the proper environment. A zygote is a zygote. A multicellular life form is just that. What you want to name them is up to you. But a zygote is not an organism. It is a single, fertilized cell that can survive only if it is able to grow and differentiate into whatever finished "product" is encoded by its DNA. That's a simple definition, and I did not devise it."
http://en.allexperts.com/q/Biology-664/specie...
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A blog?

This is what you hew to? Wow.

“Reality is better than truth.”

Since: Nov 09

Indianapolis

#90 Mar 4, 2013
Actually, I learned that FACT when I was in school; this is just a simple explanation. Had you gone to school, you might have learned it too.
Dan wrote:
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A blog?
This is what you hew to? Wow.
Dan

Omaha, NE

#91 Mar 4, 2013
cpeter1313 wrote:
Actually, I learned that FACT when I was in school; this is just a simple explanation. Had you gone to school, you might have learned it too.
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Yeah. You found a site with someone's opinion with whom you agreed and used it as a citation.

“Reality is better than truth.”

Since: Nov 09

Indianapolis

#92 Mar 4, 2013
No, I found an easy site because: a) there are few textbooks online, and b) you're not real bright so I had to find a less-technical source.

Feel free to find a scientific source backing your argument that a fetus is a member of a species.
Dan wrote:
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Yeah. You found a site with someone's opinion with whom you agreed and used it as a citation.
Dan

Omaha, NE

#93 Mar 7, 2013
cpeter1313 wrote:
No, I found an easy site because: a) there are few textbooks online, and b) you're not real bright so I had to find a less-technical source.
Feel free to find a scientific source backing your argument that a fetus is a member of a species.
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That took 5 seconds.

Here's a citation from an actual textbook.

"Rather, the answer is to be found in the works of modern human embryology and developmental biology. In these texts, we find little or nothing in the way of scientific uncertainty: "…human development begins at fertilization…" write embryologists Keith Moore and T.V. N. Persaud in The Developing Human (7th edition, 2003), the most widely used textbook on human embryology.

A human embryo is a whole living member of the species Homo sapiens in the earliest stage of development."

Cited article:

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php...

“Reality is better than truth.”

Since: Nov 09

Indianapolis

#94 Mar 7, 2013
Sorry, but their personal beliefs don't countermand scientific principle. It's interesting that they consider a fetus "whole", which it clearly is not.

Who says it's "the most widely used textbook on human embryology"?
Dan wrote:
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That took 5 seconds.
Here's a citation from an actual textbook.
"Rather, the answer is to be found in the works of modern human embryology and developmental biology. In these texts, we find little or nothing in the way of scientific uncertainty: "…human development begins at fertilization…" write embryologists Keith Moore and T.V. N. Persaud in The Developing Human (7th edition, 2003), the most widely used textbook on human embryology.
A human embryo is a whole living member of the species Homo sapiens in the earliest stage of development."
Cited article:
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php...
Dan

Omaha, NE

#95 Mar 7, 2013
cpeter1313 wrote:
Sorry, but their personal beliefs don't countermand scientific principle. It's interesting that they consider a fetus "whole", which it clearly is not.
Who says it's "the most widely used textbook on human embryology"?
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Sigh.

Demand a citation then don't read the article.

You didn't read the article.

The textbook authors, scientists applying scientific principle, indicate that "…human development begins at fertilization…", thus affirming the "human species" argument on part of the fetus.

The "whole living member" was an extrapolation of this by the author of the piece.

The author of the article makes the claims as to it's "most" widespread use. I looked around a bit-feel free to do likewise-it's in it's 8th Edition now and does appear to be in wide use.

“Reality is better than truth.”

Since: Nov 09

Indianapolis

#96 Mar 7, 2013
Any fetus's development begins at fertilization; that doesn't make them a member of the species yet.

The extrapolation is not logical; humans function no differently than any other mammal in this regard.

Being reprinted is nothing at all like being the most widepread text on a subject.
Dan wrote:
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Sigh.
Demand a citation then don't read the article.
You didn't read the article.
The textbook authors, scientists applying scientific principle, indicate that "…human development begins at fertilization…", thus affirming the "human species" argument on part of the fetus.
The "whole living member" was an extrapolation of this by the author of the piece.
The author of the article makes the claims as to it's "most" widespread use. I looked around a bit-feel free to do likewise-it's in it's 8th Edition now and does appear to be in wide use.
Dan

Omaha, NE

#97 Mar 8, 2013
cpeter1313 wrote:
Any fetus's development begins at fertilization; that doesn't make them a member of the species yet.
The extrapolation is not logical; humans function no differently than any other mammal in this regard.
Being reprinted is nothing at all like being the most widepread text on a subject.
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The scientist said it's a member of the human species from fertilization. You asked for a scientific citation of that and now you have it.

It's in a textbook in it's 8th edition and that beats your blogspot.
someoneuknow

Ravenna, OH

#98 Mar 8, 2013
cpeter1313 wrote:
No, I found an easy site because: a) there are few textbooks online, and b) you're not real bright so I had to find a less-technical source.
Feel free to find a scientific source backing your argument that a fetus is a member of a species.
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Look whos calling someone not real bright. You're as dumb as a stick and you are a condescending little biotch. You have no business taling abortion, didn't I tell you that? Go away gay boy. You're talking about something that couldn't be a part of gay world, so stfu.
someoneuknow

Ravenna, OH

#99 Mar 8, 2013
Dan wrote:
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The scientist said it's a member of the human species from fertilization. You asked for a scientific citation of that and now you have it.
It's in a textbook in it's 8th edition and that beats your blogspot.
You got it Dan. They're all dumbasses.

“lightly burnt,but still smokin”

Since: Dec 06

in the corner of your mind,

#100 Mar 8, 2013
for the mental midgets above,
someoneuknow

Ravenna, OH

#101 Mar 8, 2013
godless by choice wrote:
for the mental midgets above,http://www.youtube.com/w atch?v=rX7wtNOkuHoXX
Hey godlass, gfy! You may be lightly burnt now, but it's gonna get much hotter where your ass will end up. Effin baby killer. You're all the same, no religion, kill babies, gun control so nobody can shoot up schools anymore. You jerks just kill them before they're born needle dick.
Brown Girl in the Ring

UK

#102 Mar 8, 2013
someoneuknow wrote:
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Hey godlass, gfy! You may be lightly burnt now, but it's gonna get much hotter where your ass will end up. Effin baby killer. You're all the same, no religion, kill babies, gun control so nobody can shoot up schools anymore. You jerks just kill them before they're born needle dick.
Why dont you just thank your lord that you've been saved and leave the gays, "baby killers" and everyone else alone?

Since: Feb 07

Location hidden

#103 Mar 8, 2013
cpeter1313 wrote:
Any fetus's development begins at fertilization; that doesn't make them a member of the species yet.
The extrapolation is not logical; humans function no differently than any other mammal in this regard.
Being reprinted is nothing at all like being the most widepread text on a subject.
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Can Science tell the difference between a human zef and a zef of another species?

Since: Feb 07

Location hidden

#104 Mar 8, 2013
cpeter1313 wrote:
Sorry, but their personal beliefs don't countermand scientific principle. It's interesting that they consider a fetus "whole", which it clearly is not.
Who says it's "the most widely used textbook on human embryology"?
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Hahahaha, so your blog is more accurate than a scientific textbook?
I must admit, you are funny.

“Reality is better than truth.”

Since: Nov 09

Indianapolis

#105 Mar 8, 2013
Outside of DNA testing, sometimes it's very difficult depending on level of development. Who cares?
Susanm wrote:
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Can Science tell the difference between a human zef and a zef of another species?

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