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Santorum: Doctors Providing Abortions To Rape And Incest Victims Should Be Criminally Charged

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Appearing on NBC's Meet the Press this morning, former Senator and GOP presidential candidate Rick Santorum offered two stunningly maximalist positions on abortion - abortion should be flatly banned even in cases of rape or incest, and doctors who perform abortions should face criminal charges: QUESTION: Do you believe that there should be any ...

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Since: Apr 07

Nashville, TN

#2554 Aug 18, 2011
cpeter1313 wrote:
Utter BS. I've known combat vets and they don't hve anywhere near the problems you say you have with the police or anyone else. You paint yourself just a little too innocent and timid; it doesn't match up with the other things you've been saying. You are leaving things out. And why the hell are you being pulled over by the cops so often that you think there is a pattern to their response?
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Whenever I am pulled over for any reason and the cops put my info into their computer an FBI code pops up that says I am extremely dangerous, approach with extreme caution and that deadly force is authorized.

About 15 years ago I didn't have a car and I use to pull my kids around in a little red wooden wagon. On the back of the wagon I had a sign that said Veterans Rights NOW with American flags and balloons attached to it. 3 times the Oak Ridge cops stopped me and were accusing me of stealing my own kids. Each time I counted 10 cops around me waiting and eager to blow me away if I made the wrong move. 3 times they were proven wrong. and 3 times I never got a single apology from any of them. You'd think that after the first time they would know the kids were mine.

Another time I had a beef with the city of Oak Ridge's Electric Department. I had made arrangements to pay my electric bill half one month and the rest plus the next month's bill at the first of the following month. Well the city cut off my electricity on the 15th of the month so I asked them why since I had made a payment. I was told that because I didn't pay the full amount they cut me off. Well I told them about the arrangement and they told me that no such arrangement was made so I told them that I was going to see the Mayor and get it straightened out. So I drove to the City building and asked to see the mayor which I did. After we had ironed everything out and as I was leaving the building I was attacked by 2 Oak Ridge City police officers arrested and I spent the weekend in jail. When it went to court the cops claimed that I scared them and that was why they arrested me. It turns out that while I was taking care of business with the mayor the cops had run my information in their computer and reacted accordingly. When my lawyer asked the cops if I had acted in a violent manner while I was talking with the Mayor and they said NO. then my lawyer asked the cops if I acted violently toward them and they said NO. Yet according to cops I posed a danger to the them by simply passing by them on my way out of the building.

When I lived in Tampa Florida one of my buddies was a Parole Officer. He too was a combat Vet. Well one day he ran out of gas and instead of showing up late for work he grabbed the gas can out of his trunk and walked the rest of the way to work. Well as soon as he entered the building with the empty gas can they evacuated the building and he was arrested. That was when I learned about that FBI code that we all carry with us everywhere we go. Bill did not have a criminal record nor was he a threat. He had been working in the parole office for something like 10 years and never caused anyone any trouble.

My name is Jim Hayden and I AM the next American President
http://www.Jimhayden2012.org

“Land of Entrapment”

Since: Mar 11

Location hidden

#2555 Aug 18, 2011
Jim Hayden wrote:
<quoted text>
Whenever I am pulled over for any reason and the cops put my info into their computer an FBI code pops up that says I am extremely dangerous, approach with extreme caution and that deadly force is authorized.
About 15 years ago I didn't have a car and I use to pull my kids around in a little red wooden wagon. On the back of the wagon I had a sign that said Veterans Rights NOW with American flags and balloons attached to it. 3 times the Oak Ridge cops stopped me and were accusing me of stealing my own kids. Each time I counted 10 cops around me waiting and eager to blow me away if I made the wrong move. 3 times they were proven wrong. and 3 times I never got a single apology from any of them. You'd think that after the first time they would know the kids were mine.
Another time I had a beef with the city of Oak Ridge's Electric Department. I had made arrangements to pay my electric bill half one month and the rest plus the next month's bill at the first of the following month. Well the city cut off my electricity on the 15th of the month so I asked them why since I had made a payment. I was told that because I didn't pay the full amount they cut me off. Well I told them about the arrangement and they told me that no such arrangement was made so I told them that I was going to see the Mayor and get it straightened out. So I drove to the City building and asked to see the mayor which I did. After we had ironed everything out and as I was leaving the building I was attacked by 2 Oak Ridge City police officers arrested and I spent the weekend in jail. When it went to court the cops claimed that I scared them and that was why they arrested me. It turns out that while I was taking care of business with the mayor the cops had run my information in their computer and reacted accordingly. When my lawyer asked the cops if I had acted in a violent manner while I was talking with the Mayor and they said NO. then my lawyer asked the cops if I acted violently toward them and they said NO. Yet according to cops I posed a danger to the them by simply passing by them on my way out of the building.
When I lived in Tampa Florida one of my buddies was a Parole Officer. He too was a combat Vet. Well one day he ran out of gas and instead of showing up late for work he grabbed the gas can out of his trunk and walked the rest of the way to work. Well as soon as he entered the building with the empty gas can they evacuated the building and he was arrested. That was when I learned about that FBI code that we all carry with us everywhere we go. Bill did not have a criminal record nor was he a threat. He had been working in the parole office for something like 10 years and never caused anyone any trouble.
My name is Jim Hayden and I AM the next American President
http://www.Jimhayden2012.org
And you think you engender trust?
How many holes would you fall in trying to Lead?
First, you need to drop the baggage. Stop living in and dredging up your glory days.
How about dealing in the here and now?
What are your plans to employ America and return production to this land?
Anyone who hung out with you would sooner or later have to put a sock in your mouth, as I am convinced they would tire of your self-absorption and stories of the glory of your combat days.
It appears Nam really messed you up. I am sorry for that. I don't want to re-live it with you daily however. It is delusional to think you can win without millions behind you, and I just don't see your ability to raise such financing.
zef

Los Angeles, CA

#2556 Aug 18, 2011
When Do We Discuss Truth wrote:
<quoted text>
Only one so warped, so twisted, so in love with what is truly such ignorant bullshit as religion that has clearly made left you with absolute shit for brains could muster such a truly ignorant statement.
What really needs to be done is to have ignorant pieces of shit like you castrated.
But I would prefer just two bullets fired directly into your head. Using a high powered rifle in your case as the explosion of shit once the bullets hit would be way too much if done close range.
You truly have an interchangeable mouth and asshole.
In other words you're pro-choice.

Since: Apr 07

Nashville, TN

#2557 Aug 18, 2011
Continued:

Over the years Vietnam Combat Vets have gotten a really bad rap. There was that postal worker who walked into a post office with an AK 47 and killed 26 postal workers. The Headline read. VIETNAM VET KILLS 26 POSTAL WORKERS Three month later on page 17 of the local newspaper ran a paragraph stating that the postal worker had never served in the military and that his cousin who was a United. Shortly after that another man walked into a Winn-Dixie with a can of gas and started setting people on fire. The local Tampa paper ran the headline VIETNAM VET SETS FIRE TO CUSTOMERS IN LOCAL WINN-DIXIE. 3 weeks later they ran a paragraph on the 17th page of the paper that said the man was in an auto accident at 17 and had never been in the military. Then there was the Texas shooter who shot and killed all of those people in Austen Texas. it was initially claimed that he was a Vietnam Veteran however he did serve in the Marine Corps only not in Vietnam.

When we returned stateside after leaving Vietnam we were ordered NOT to retaliate under any circumstances after returning home. No matter what any civilian does to us we are not to react with violence. The only exception to that direct order was if we were attacked and we were defending ourselves.

When I was sent to Marine Security Guard School we were taught how to handle a crowd attacking one of our embassies. One first general order was to let the local government protect us. If it becomes apparent the local government is unable to protect us and our embassy we are to use whatever force necessary to protect our embassy and the embassy's personnel. So I was taught how to keep my cool even when everyone around me is losing theirs. How to act deliberately and decisively.

Vietnam Veterans faced a special problem while we returned home heroes our fellow countrymen treated us like criminals. When I arrived in Memphis the first thing my parents told me was to ditch my uniform. There were groups of men roaming Memphis looking for Sailors and Marines and killing them. This was after we had won the War in Vietnam or early 1970. I have been spit on, slapped, kicked and punched for serving in Vietnam. I have been called every nasty name in the book and I have been denied jobs, career counseling and training by state employees and I have even been escorted out of a state run job bank simply because I am a Vietnam Combat Veteran. No I did not yell or get mad. I simply walked out of the building and I started up another business.

I have accomplished a lot in my life and I am not finished just yet. There is still a lot of work that has to be done.
Social Security must be saved, Veterans benefits restored and an economy that has tanked and on one seems to know what they are doing.

My name is Jim Hayden and I AM the next American President
http://www.Jimhayden2012.org

“searching myself”

Since: Sep 09

In Charming CA

#2558 Aug 18, 2011
Jim Hayden wrote:
<quoted text>
Whenever I am pulled over for any reason and the cops put my info into their computer an FBI code pops up that says I am extremely dangerous, approach with extreme caution and that deadly force is authorized.
About 15 years ago I didn't have a car and I use to pull my kids around in a little red wooden wagon. On the back of the wagon I had a sign that said Veterans Rights NOW with American flags and balloons attached to it. 3 times the Oak Ridge cops stopped me and were accusing me of stealing my own kids. Each time I counted 10 cops around me waiting and eager to blow me away if I made the wrong move. 3 times they were proven wrong. and 3 times I never got a single apology from any of them. You'd think that after the first time they would know the kids were mine.
Another time I had a beef with the city of Oak Ridge's Electric Department. I had made arrangements to pay my electric bill half one month and the rest plus the next month's bill at the first of the following month. Well the city cut off my electricity on the 15th of the month so I asked them why since I had made a payment. I was told that because I didn't pay the full amount they cut me off. Well I told them about the arrangement and they told me that no such arrangement was made so I told them that I was going to see the Mayor and get it straightened out. So I drove to the City building and asked to see the mayor which I did. After we had ironed everything out and as I was leaving the building I was attacked by 2 Oak Ridge City police officers arrested and I spent the weekend in jail. When it went to court the cops claimed that I scared them and that was why they arrested me. It turns out that while I was taking care of business with the mayor the cops had run my information in their computer and reacted accordingly. When my lawyer asked the cops if I had acted in a violent manner while I was talking with the Mayor and they said NO. then my lawyer asked the cops if I acted violently toward them and they said NO. Yet according to cops I posed a danger to the them by simply passing by them on my way out of the building.
When I lived in Tampa Florida one of my buddies was a Parole Officer. He too was a combat Vet. Well one day he ran out of gas and instead of showing up late for work he grabbed the gas can out of his trunk and walked the rest of the way to work. Well as soon as he entered the building with the empty gas can they evacuated the building and he was arrested. That was when I learned about that FBI code that we all carry with us everywhere we go. Bill did not have a criminal record nor was he a threat. He had been working in the parole office for something like 10 years and never caused anyone any trouble.
My name is Jim Hayden and I AM the next American President
http://www.Jimhayden2012.org
We all have our crosses to bear, Jim. This lament is far from Presidential, and boring to boot.

Besides, since you don't give a good go**amn about the circumstances under which women may seek abortion, why should anyone give a runny shit about your circumstances, whatever you claim they are this week?

“Reality is better than truth.”

Since: Nov 09

Indianapolis

#2559 Aug 18, 2011
"Traitorist"? You mean, "traitorous?" See what an education could do for you?

Quoting the DOI is patriotic? BS. There are a lot of flag-waving jingoists like you out there who have no love for our country. You revile the very idea of freedom, which scares the living crap out of you. Just quoting documents is to patriotism what tossing out bible verses is to being a christian. It's all just for show.

Feel free to demonstrate how any of the founders considered a fetus to be a citizen or a person.
zef wrote:
<quoted text>Quoting the Declaration of Independence is not stealing other people's words or thoughts, its called being loyal to my country, rather than being the traitorist disgrace to our nation, which you strive to be.
"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. That to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed."

“Reality is better than truth.”

Since: Nov 09

Indianapolis

#2560 Aug 18, 2011
So being anti-choice excuses any other bad behavior? no wonder you people think it's okay to shoot doctors.
zef wrote:
<quoted text>Jim Hayden is anti-abortion, and although the act of plagiarism might seem heinous to some, it pales in comparison to the atrocity of abortion. Which is what this discussion is suppose to be about, the atrocity of abortion.

Since: Mar 08

Long Beach, CA

#2561 Aug 18, 2011
zef wrote:
<quoted text>In other words you're pro-choice.
Yes.

Now why would you support the killing of islamic women and children in Iraq and Afghanistan, as well as support killing a person who murders, but deny a woman the right to an abortion on the grounds of it being murder?

In other words you support several types of death - except one.

Now you are still a religious piece of shit.

“Reality is better than truth.”

Since: Nov 09

Indianapolis

#2562 Aug 18, 2011
Nothing in the constitution explicitly allowed slavery--nor did anything explicitly forbid it. That means it was relegated to the several states.

Our nascent government was wary of alienating the south, which made it quite clear that any attempt to outlaw slavery would result in secession.
zef wrote:
<quoted text>
the continuance of slavery was clearly sanctioned in the U.S. Constitution, although the words slave and slavery are not found anywhere in the document. Section 2 of Article I states that apart from free persons "all other persons," meaning slaves, are each to be counted as three-fifths of a white person for the purpose of apportioning congressional representatives on the basis of population. Section 9 of Article I states that the importation of "such Persons as any of the States now existing shall think proper to admit," meaning slaves, would be permitted until 1808. And Section 2 of Article IV directs that persons "held to Service or Labour in one State, under the Laws thereof, escaping into another," meaning fugitive slaves, were to be returned to their owners.
The Bill of Rights, adopted in 1791, says nothing about slavery. But the Fifth Amendment guaranteed that no person could "be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law." Slaves were property, and slaveholders had an absolute right to take their property with them, even into free states or territories. http://civilwar.bluegrass.net/secessioncrisis...
The fact is that slavery was guaranteed by the Constitution in the states where it already existed. Northern fire-eaters and abolitionists could rail against it as much as they wanted to, but those who knew anything about the Constitution knew that the institution was untouchable in those states.
http://clevelandcivilwarroundtable.com/articl...

Since: Apr 07

Nashville, TN

#2563 Aug 18, 2011
Nijoni wrote:
<quoted text>
And you think you engender trust?
The only reason why I bring up my accomplishments is to demonstrate I am able to get the job done. If you are truly interested in how I am working to get American workers back on the job you need to visit my website it is all right there.

Anyone who knows me knows that I DO NOT lose it. My VA doctors are amazed at how well I am able to handle stress. My doc tells me that I am the healthiest Vietnam Veteran she has. I DO NOT take drugs or any medications nor do I smoke or drink to excess. I do have an occasional 4 oz glass of wine every few days to aid in digestion. Hey I'm 63 and the pluming doesn't work like it use to.

My mother and my wife swear I have yet to meet a stranger as I will stop and talk with anyone. It aggravates my wife. She was raised in Jersey and she likes to go into a store get what she needs and leave. While I go in and start talking with people I meet. Hey what can I say it is called good old southern hospitality. When I was in college in Pittsburgh, PA I would talk to people on the street and they would look at me as if I had committed some crime. Then dang Yankees never smile either. Very disturbing to be around. I say my howdies and smile as they grimes back at me. I was born in Akron, Ohio and to this day I still can't figure them out. I would much rather leave a person with a blessing and a smile then nothing at all.

Now over here in Oak Ridge we are unable to eat the fish we catch. I once caught a really nice 35 pound strip only by the time I got it home it was uneatable. I mean it was really nasty. Now I prefer to eat catfish with coleslaw and hush puppies with some fried okra on the side. Well a few years ago I went back to one of my old stomping grounds just outside of Nashville Tennessee called Old Hickory Lake. Me and one of my girlfriends went fishing and I hooked the biggest fish I believe I'd ever hooked including in the ocean I fought that critter for near an hour before I was able to get it close enough to the surface of the water to see it. Well it wasn't a fish at all. No sir. it was a 120 pound alligator snapping turtle. Here is a video my girlfriend shot the very next day. http://youtu.be/yGW98lefR5g Oh yea my girlfriend well she is a girl and we are just friends. We graduated from High School together. Any way I only caught one rather small catfish the entire time I was there. Real bummer. Ya Know.

I have learned one thing in this life and that is most people DO NOT know how to have fun and enjoy this life we are given. Always worried about this or concerned about that. Heck I've seen a person get really seriously depressed after their football team lot a game.

I guess the point I am trying to make here is I am more than a Vietnam Combat Marine. I do have a real life outside the Computer and Naw I'm really not that full of myself. I have a wife and a mother who tell me exactly where I stand.

As far as my accomplishments I stand on my military record to demonstrate my ability to engage our enemies and Defeat them I stand on my record as a business man to prove I am able to lead us out of this depression we are now in.

My name is Jim Hayden and I AM the next American President
http://www.Jimhayden2012.org

“Reality is better than truth.”

Since: Nov 09

Indianapolis

#2564 Aug 18, 2011
Let's compromise--two bullets tot he genitals.
When Do We Discuss Truth wrote:
<quoted text>
Actually I find two bullets to the head to be appropriate.

Since: Jun 08

Location hidden

#2565 Aug 18, 2011
Jim Hayden wrote:
Continued:
Over the years Vietnam Combat Vets have gotten a really bad rap. There was that postal worker who walked into a post office with an AK 47 and killed 26 postal workers. The Headline read. VIETNAM VET KILLS 26 POSTAL WORKERS Three month later on page 17 of the local newspaper ran a paragraph stating that the postal worker had never served in the military and that his cousin who was a United. Shortly after that another man walked into a Winn-Dixie with a can of gas and started setting people on fire. The local Tampa paper ran the headline VIETNAM VET SETS FIRE TO CUSTOMERS IN LOCAL WINN-DIXIE. 3 weeks later they ran a paragraph on the 17th page of the paper that said the man was in an auto accident at 17 and had never been in the military. Then there was the Texas shooter who shot and killed all of those people in Austen Texas. it was initially claimed that he was a Vietnam Veteran however he did serve in the Marine Corps only not in Vietnam.
When we returned stateside after leaving Vietnam we were ordered NOT to retaliate under any circumstances after returning home. No matter what any civilian does to us we are not to react with violence. The only exception to that direct order was if we were attacked and we were defending ourselves.
When I was sent to Marine Security Guard School we were taught how to handle a crowd attacking one of our embassies. One first general order was to let the local government protect us. If it becomes apparent the local government is unable to protect us and our embassy we are to use whatever force necessary to protect our embassy and the embassy's personnel. So I was taught how to keep my cool even when everyone around me is losing theirs. How to act deliberately and decisively.
Vietnam Veterans faced a special problem while we returned home heroes our fellow countrymen treated us like criminals. When I arrived in Memphis the first thing my parents told me was to ditch my uniform. There were groups of men roaming Memphis looking for Sailors and Marines and killing them. This was after we had won the War in Vietnam or early 1970. I have been spit on, slapped, kicked and punched for serving in Vietnam. I have been called every nasty name in the book and I have been denied jobs, career counseling and training by state employees and I have even been escorted out of a state run job bank simply because I am a Vietnam Combat Veteran. No I did not yell or get mad. I simply walked out of the building and I started up another business.
I have accomplished a lot in my life and I am not finished just yet. There is still a lot of work that has to be done.
Social Security must be saved, Veterans benefits restored and an economy that has tanked and on one seems to know what they are doing.
My name is Jim Hayden and I AM the next American President
http://www.Jimhayden2012.org
No body wants a whiny president. Why don't you run off and have a nice little cry, honey poo?

“Land of Entrapment”

Since: Mar 11

Location hidden

#2566 Aug 18, 2011
Jim Hayden wrote:
Continued:
Over the years Vietnam Combat Vets have gotten a really bad rap. There was that postal worker who walked into a post office with an AK 47 and killed 26 postal workers. The Headline read. VIETNAM VET KILLS 26 POSTAL WORKERS Three month later on page 17 of the local newspaper ran a paragraph stating that the postal worker had never served in the military and that his cousin who was a United. Shortly after that another man walked into a Winn-Dixie with a can of gas and started setting people on fire. The local Tampa paper ran the headline VIETNAM VET SETS FIRE TO CUSTOMERS IN LOCAL WINN-DIXIE. 3 weeks later they ran a paragraph on the 17th page of the paper that said the man was in an auto accident at 17 and had never been in the military. Then there was the Texas shooter who shot and killed all of those people in Austen Texas. it was initially claimed that he was a Vietnam Veteran however he did serve in the Marine Corps only not in Vietnam.
When we returned stateside after leaving Vietnam we were ordered NOT to retaliate under any circumstances after returning home. No matter what any civilian does to us we are not to react with violence. The only exception to that direct order was if we were attacked and we were defending ourselves.
When I was sent to Marine Security Guard School we were taught how to handle a crowd attacking one of our embassies. One first general order was to let the local government protect us. If it becomes apparent the local government is unable to protect us and our embassy we are to use whatever force necessary to protect our embassy and the embassy's personnel. So I was taught how to keep my cool even when everyone around me is losing theirs. How to act deliberately and decisively.
Vietnam Veterans faced a special problem while we returned home heroes our fellow countrymen treated us like criminals. When I arrived in Memphis the first thing my parents told me was to ditch my uniform. There were groups of men roaming Memphis looking for Sailors and Marines and killing them. This was after we had won the War in Vietnam or early 1970. I have been spit on, slapped, kicked and punched for serving in Vietnam. I have been called every nasty name in the book and I have been denied jobs, career counseling and training by state employees and I have even been escorted out of a state run job bank simply because I am a Vietnam Combat Veteran. No I did not yell or get mad. I simply walked out of the building and I started up another business.
I have accomplished a lot in my life and I am not finished just yet. There is still a lot of work that has to be done.
Social Security must be saved, Veterans benefits restored and an economy that has tanked and on one seems to know what they are doing.
My name is Jim Hayden and I AM the next American President
http://www.Jimhayden2012.org
No one told you we lost the war in Nam? You can't be serious. My delusional diagnosis appears correct. Changing History now to inflate your ego even more?
A good friend of mine was a Marine in Nam. You could say a Combat Vet. He rarely talks of this, however his battalion is the most decorated in the History of the Marine Corp. He did like 4 tours of Nam and left unscathed. Not many did, and certainly not from his group.He didn't even know this until this year. About his battalion being the most decorated. He removed himself from living in the past. I can tell, by his physical frame, he was a Warrior. He does not pride himself as you, nor does he re-live these days. He has led a successful life and retired nicely. As has the rest of his men, who are still alive. All successful. All have moved on into the 21st Century. He flew back into NY when discharged and no one spit,etc on him. He says these stories are grossly over inflated.
You are a fright. God help us.
My name is Nijoni and I am not delusional.

“Reality is better than truth.”

Since: Nov 09

Indianapolis

#2567 Aug 18, 2011
I don't know what FLDS survivalist hellcamp you grew up in, but in the real world, rape is NOT how most of us are conceived. Nor has it been the modus operandi for the species in general.

You evidently have never known a woman who was raped. The assault alone is devastating to most women, much less the thought of having this reminder of the animal who violated you now growing within you.

You have a serious lack of empathy. How fortunate that you will NEVER have an effect on women's rights to deal with their pregnancies as they so choose.
zef wrote:
<quoted text>
Your genocidal meanderings are pointless and obtuse. Without rape none of the humans on this planet would be here. Delivering a rape baby is no more an emotional hell than delivering any other baby. What causes you to have so little regard for the morals a woman as to accuse her of projected the crime of the father onto her innocent child. What sort of a woman would make her innocent defenseless child the scapegoat for another's misdeeds?

Since: Apr 07

Nashville, TN

#2568 Aug 18, 2011
shovelhead72 wrote:
<quoted text> We all have our crosses to bear, Jim. This lament is far from Presidential, and boring to boot.
Besides, since you don't give a good go**amn about the circumstances under which women may seek abortion, why should anyone give a runny shit about your circumstances, whatever you claim they are this week?
Only I do care. I have ministered to enough women after they have had an abortion to tell them what a mistake it is to have one. You try talking a woman out of killing herself over the phone at 3 in the morning or you try telling a woman that she is not a bad person for killing her baby.

You want uncaring I'll give you uncaring. That is a person who ignore the risks and encourages women to get abortions and then after the women show signs of severe depression or has thoughts of killing herself blaming it all on the woman and not on the fact that she killed her child. I'm there nearly every day in the trenches helping women deal with the mistakes of their lives. From unable to relate to other due to having been abused or rapped to feelings of guilt over losing a child.

People who tell women to suck it up and get on with their lives are those who could care less about the woman. People who ignore the fact that every time an abortion is preformed a child dies and a woman must learn to deal with her decision to kill her child. Yes some women deal with it by telling themselves that all they did was remove an unwanted growth from their body other deal with it by trying to get lost in their jobs. However more ofter than not sooner or later most women are forced to face the fact that they killed their child. I was ministering to a woman about 20 years ago who was unable to have any children. She had had 3 abortions and that left her uterus totally messed up. Every time she saw another woman with a child she would break down. She was constantly in and out of psych hospitals as she bounced from one bad relationship to another.

I am only preventing women from being forced to endure the after effects of having an abortion. That is because I do care about women. ALL women and not just a few.

My name is Jim Hayden and I AM the next American President
http://www.Jimhayden2012.org

Since: Apr 07

Nashville, TN

#2569 Aug 18, 2011
elise in burque wrote:
<quoted text>No body wants a whiny president. Why don't you run off and have a nice little cry, honey poo?
Stating facts.

My name is Jim Hayden and I AM the next American President
http://www.Jimhayden2012.org
Mexican Rambo

Thailand

#2570 Aug 18, 2011
Jim Hayden wrote:
<quoted text>
The only reason why I bring up my accomplishments is to demonstrate I am able to get the job done. If you are truly interested in how I am working to get American workers back on the job you need to visit my website it is all right there.
Anyone who knows me knows that I DO NOT lose it. My VA doctors are amazed at how well I am able to handle stress. My doc tells me that I am the healthiest Vietnam Veteran she has. I DO NOT take drugs or any medications nor do I smoke or drink to excess. I do have an occasional 4 oz glass of wine every few days to aid in digestion. Hey I'm 63 and the pluming doesn't work like it use to.
My mother and my wife swear I have yet to meet a stranger as I will stop and talk with anyone. It aggravates my wife. She was raised in Jersey and she likes to go into a store get what she needs and leave. While I go in and start talking with people I meet. Hey what can I say it is called good old southern hospitality. When I was in college in Pittsburgh, PA I would talk to people on the street and they would look at me as if I had committed some crime. Then dang Yankees never smile either. Very disturbing to be around. I say my howdies and smile as they grimes back at me. I was born in Akron, Ohio and to this day I still can't figure them out. I would much rather leave a person with a blessing and a smile then nothing at all.
Now over here in Oak Ridge we are unable to eat the fish we catch. I once caught a really nice 35 pound strip only by the time I got it home it was uneatable. I mean it was really nasty. Now I prefer to eat catfish with coleslaw and hush puppies with some fried okra on the side. Well a few years ago I went back to one of my old stomping grounds just outside of Nashville Tennessee called Old Hickory Lake. Me and one of my girlfriends went fishing and I hooked the biggest fish I believe I'd ever hooked including in the ocean I fought that critter for near an hour before I was able to get it close enough to the surface of the water to see it. Well it wasn't a fish at all. No sir. it was a 120 pound alligator snapping turtle. Here is a video my girlfriend shot the very next day. http://youtu.be/yGW98lefR5g Oh yea my girlfriend well she is a girl and we are just friends. We graduated from High School together. Any way I only caught one rather small catfish the entire time I was there. Real bummer. Ya Know.
I have learned one thing in this life and that is most people DO NOT know how to have fun and enjoy this life we are given. Always worried about this or concerned about that. Heck I've seen a person get really seriously depressed after their football team lot a game.
I guess the point I am trying to make here is I am more than a Vietnam Combat Marine. I do have a real life outside the Computer and Naw I'm really not that full of myself. I have a wife and a mother who tell me exactly where I stand.
As far as my accomplishments I stand on my military record to demonstrate my ability to engage our enemies and Defeat them I stand on my record as a business man to prove I am able to lead us out of this depression we are now in.
My name is Jim Hayden and I AM the next American President
http://www.Jimhayden2012.org
I hear ya Bro.
I want to have your babies.

“Land of Entrapment”

Since: Mar 11

Location hidden

#2571 Aug 18, 2011
Jim Hayden wrote:
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I guess the point I am trying to make here is I am more than a Vietnam Combat Marine. I do have a real life outside the Computer and Naw I'm really not that full of myself. I have a wife and a mother who tell me exactly where I stand.
As far as my accomplishments I stand on my military record to demonstrate my ability to engage our enemies and Defeat them I stand on my record as a business man to prove I am able to lead us out of this depression we are now in.
And does your wife and mother agree with you that women should be forced to carry rape and incest babies (rape) to term?
Personally, I do not want to be Lead into your current depression.

“Reality is better than truth.”

Since: Nov 09

Indianapolis

#2572 Aug 18, 2011
Still doesn't have the ring of truth; there are wholes in the narrative, such as, "why would the cops even know who you were when you were pulling your kids around?"

BTW--anyone who enters a government building with a can of gas (empty or not) is going to get a big reaction, because there are too many cases of people flipping out and doing insane things. WTF was he doing carrying that into the building? Did he have a gas pump in his office? He should have been fired for gross stupidity.
Jim Hayden wrote:
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Whenever I am pulled over for any reason and the cops put my info into their computer an FBI code pops up that says I am extremely dangerous, approach with extreme caution and that deadly force is authorized.
About 15 years ago I didn't have a car and I use to pull my kids around in a little red wooden wagon. On the back of the wagon I had a sign that said Veterans Rights NOW with American flags and balloons attached to it. 3 times the Oak Ridge cops stopped me and were accusing me of stealing my own kids. Each time I counted 10 cops around me waiting and eager to blow me away if I made the wrong move. 3 times they were proven wrong. and 3 times I never got a single apology from any of them. You'd think that after the first time they would know the kids were mine.
Another time I had a beef with the city of Oak Ridge's Electric Department. I had made arrangements to pay my electric bill half one month and the rest plus the next month's bill at the first of the following month. Well the city cut off my electricity on the 15th of the month so I asked them why since I had made a payment. I was told that because I didn't pay the full amount they cut me off. Well I told them about the arrangement and they told me that no such arrangement was made so I told them that I was going to see the Mayor and get it straightened out. So I drove to the City building and asked to see the mayor which I did. After we had ironed everything out and as I was leaving the building I was attacked by 2 Oak Ridge City police officers arrested and I spent the weekend in jail. When it went to court the cops claimed that I scared them and that was why they arrested me. It turns out that while I was taking care of business with the mayor the cops had run my information in their computer and reacted accordingly. When my lawyer asked the cops if I had acted in a violent manner while I was talking with the Mayor and they said NO. then my lawyer asked the cops if I acted violently toward them and they said NO. Yet according to cops I posed a danger to the them by simply passing by them on my way out of the building.
When I lived in Tampa Florida one of my buddies was a Parole Officer. He too was a combat Vet. Well one day he ran out of gas and instead of showing up late for work he grabbed the gas can out of his trunk and walked the rest of the way to work. Well as soon as he entered the building with the empty gas can they evacuated the building and he was arrested. That was when I learned about that FBI code that we all carry with us everywhere we go. Bill did not have a criminal record nor was he a threat. He had been working in the parole office for something like 10 years and never caused anyone any trouble.
My name is Jim Hayden and I AM the next American President
http://www.Jimhayden2012.org

“Reality is better than truth.”

Since: Nov 09

Indianapolis

#2573 Aug 18, 2011
In other words, you're home-schooled.
zef wrote:
<quoted text>In other words you're pro-choice.

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