self induced miscarriage / natural ab...

self induced miscarriage / natural abortion

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cupCake

Elkhorn, WI

#1 Jul 29, 2013
http://voices.yahoo.com/natural-abortion-indu...

"Regardless of my opinion on abortion, I feel that women should have the choice and access to this information. Do with it what you will, but do so at your own risk. Please be intelligent and safe, and do further research than simply reading this article. Make sure this is what you really wish to do. Do consult with a care provider before and after. If you have any worries at all while using these herbs, do not hesitate to seek health care. As long as you note the contraindications and avoid high doses, attempting natural abortion should be safe. Remember, though, that it does not always work and does not come without risks."
Deborah

Minneapolis, MN

#2 Jul 29, 2013
cupCake wrote:
http://voices.yahoo.com/natural-abortion-indu...
"Regardless of my opinion on abortion, I feel that women should have the choice and access to this information. Do with it what you will, but do so at your own risk. Please be intelligent and safe, and do further research than simply reading this article. Make sure this is what you really wish to do. Do consult with a care provider before and after. If you have any worries at all while using these herbs, do not hesitate to seek health care. As long as you note the contraindications and avoid high doses, attempting natural abortion should be safe. Remember, though, that it does not always work and does not come without risks."
Somewhere in hell, Josef Mengele is nodding approval at your "medical" advice, whose semantic chicanery matches the Nazis' justifications for their barbarities.

"Health care" ... "natural" abortion ... "safe": you're proving to be an apt disciple in a long line of sophistic apologists for the strong preying on the weak.
cupCake

Elkhorn, WI

#3 Jul 29, 2013
The world has changed and you haven't changed with it.

The internet with access to information and simple things like the ability to buy sterlie gloves ensures all women have the choice that has always been theirs.

cupCake

Elkhorn, WI

#4 Jul 29, 2013
There's probably even an app for it...

Morgana 9

“And the Horse You Rode in On”

Since: Sep 08

Minneapolis

#5 Jul 29, 2013
Deborah wrote:
<quoted text>
Somewhere in hell, Josef Mengele is nodding approval at your "medical" advice, whose semantic chicanery matches the Nazis' justifications for their barbarities.
"Health care" ... "natural" abortion ... "safe": you're proving to be an apt disciple in a long line of sophistic apologists for the strong preying on the weak.
Herbs have been used to induce abortion for eons.........get with the ball game Debs...Josef Mengele has nothing to do with it. Such a drama queen!!
Deborah

Minneapolis, MN

#7 Jul 30, 2013
LineDazzle wrote:
Herbs have only existed for a short time, kid9.
The morally barren rhetoric used by the powerful to kill the powerless has existed for a long time, to be sure.

Whether it's a singular case of a mother killing her unborn child because she wants to do it or a societal case of a regime killing entire classes of people it deems unworthy of life, the rationale and the rhetoric are the same.

And the results are the same: death for the powerless at the hands of those who have the power to snuff out their lives for any reason, at any time.

Robert George writes:

"Any healthy society, any decent society, will rest on three pillars. The first is respect for the human person -- the individual human being and his dignity. Where this pillar is in place, the formal and informal institutions of society, and the beliefs and practices of the people, will be such that every member of the human family, irrespective not only of race, sex, or ethnicity but also of age, size, stage of development, or condition of dependency, is treated as a person -- that is, as a subject bearing profound, inherent, and equal worth and dignity.

"A society that does not nurture respect for the human person -- beginning with the child in the womb, and including the mentally and physically impaired and the frail elderly -- will sooner or later (probably sooner than later) come to regard human beings as mere cogs in the larger social wheel whose dignity and well-being may legitimately be sacrificed for the sake of collectivity. Some members of the community -- those in certain development stages, for example -- will come to be regarded as disposable. Others -- those in certain conditions of dependency, for example -- will come to be viewed as intolerably burdensome, as "useless eaters," as "better off dead," as Lebensunwertes lebens ("life unworthy of life")....

Morgana 9

“And the Horse You Rode in On”

Since: Sep 08

Minneapolis

#8 Jul 30, 2013
Well gee whiz Debbie....what a surprise!!! You really do follow the religious nut jobs don't ya? You won't be happy till we live under a theocracy....careful what you wish for cupcake.

The Conservative-Christian Big Thinker

On a September afternoon, about 60 prominent Christians assembled in the library of the Metropolitan Club on the east side of Central Park. It was a gathering of unusual diversity and power. Many in attendance were conservative evangelicals like the born-again Watergate felon Chuck Colson, who helped initiate the meeting. Metropolitan Jonah, the primate of the Orthodox Church in America, was there as well. And so were more than half a dozen of this country’s most influential Roman Catholic bishops, including Archbishop Timothy Dolan of New York, Archbishop John Myers of Newark and Cardinal Justin Rigali of Philadelphia.


At the center of the event was Robert P. George, a Princeton University professor of jurisprudence and a Roman Catholic who is this country’s most influential conservative Christian thinker. Dressed in his usual uniform of three-piece suit, New College, Oxford cuff links and rimless glasses­, George convened the meeting with a note of thanks and a reminder of its purpose. Alarmed at the liberal takeover of Washington and an apparent leadership vacuum among the Christian right, the group had come together to warn the country’s secular powers that the culture wars had not ended. As a starting point, George had drafted a 4,700-word manifesto that promised resistance to the point of civil disobedience against any legislation that might implicate their churches or charities in abortion, embryo-destructive research or same-sex marriage.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/12/20/magazine/20...

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