Courage: Raped, Impregnated 13-Year-O...

Courage: Raped, Impregnated 13-Year-Old Girl Keeps Baby

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Deborah

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#1 Feb 18, 2013
http://www.lifenews.com/2013/02/11/courage-ra...

"When I was little I was molested for eight years by my stepfather. He was an accomplished liar and fooled everyone, even my mom. No one knew. I was afraid to tell anyone; when you grow up hearing that bad things will happen if anyone finds out, you believe it.

I got pregnant the first time when I was 12. I was scared and told him. He hit me and then loaded me up on drugs, telling my mom that I had been injured while out playing with some other kids. He killed my baby. Of all the things that happened to me, this is what haunts me the most. I will never know who my child might have become. My only hope is in the promise I will get to see him or her in heaven when I get there, and Jesus will take care of my baby until then.

When I was 13, I became pregnant again. This time I did not say anything to him.

[...]

I was told by therapists, friends, teachers, family, and even strangers, that it would probably be best if I had an abortion; but I couldn’t. Earlier that year, I had learned in my science class that a child’s DNA comes from both parents, and that meant that this child was also half mine. I also figured that since I was the one who would carry her in MY body for the next several months, that made her mine, not his. I knew from my first pregnancy that he didn’t want me to have the baby. I knew that if I had an abortion, I would be doing just what he wanted, and he would win again. He would not have only killed all of my innocence, he would have killed my daughter.

It might have been easier to choose an abortion. There are many things that I would not have had to go through if I had. It was harder than I have words to describe. But there are some things in life that are worth fighting for, and she was one of them.

[...]

My mom was amazing, she watched my daughter so that I could finish school. I did graduate and was my class historian. I met a wonderful man who loves both me and my daughter, and we now have four children.

At the time I had Josey, I believed in God, but I didn’t like Him very much. I couldn’t understand why a loving God would allow me to go through all that I did. It wasn’t until I was 26 that I truly found a relationship with Jesus Christ. A wonderful neighbor of ours showed me how much Jesus loves me. Because He loves us, He gave us free will. My stepfather abused that gift when he abused me. But like Romans 8:28 says, God used something horrible to bring me one of the greatest blessings in my life. Knowing her now, I would go back and do it all again.

Josey is 17 now, and is a beautiful young woman, inside and out. She loves writing, drawing and music. She is learning to play the guitar and skateboard. She volunteers in the nursery at our church and helps the worship team at one of our local ministries. She plans on going to college after she graduates to study computer animation.

She is one of the many reasons why I know that abortion is wrong. She is a person, and has been since she was conceived. Had I aborted her, this world would have lost an amazing person. My heart breaks for each child that is killed before he or she has a chance to bring someone the same joy that my daughter has brought me.

Seeing her does not remind me of the horror of my childhood, she reminds me of God’s love, and how He can bring beauty from the ashes. To anyone who is where I was, please hold on. You can make it, and your child will bring you more joy than you can imagine. It will be hard, but it is worth it."
Ocean56

AOL

#2 Feb 21, 2013
Riiiiiiiiight, and this story is supposed to convince teen girls that getting pregnant and being a teen mom at 13 YEARS OLD is a "good" thing? Sorry (not really), I'm NOT buying that nonsensical assertion.

If I had the horrible experience of being molested and then impregnated by a family member, I would have aborted it. NO WAY would I ever have chosen to get stuck raising the product of a molester. Luckily, such a horrific experience was never inflicted on me.

This girl made one choice (possibly -- and probably -- coerced by her parents), I would have made a very different one in those circumstances. That's how CHOICE works.

“Women are people, not objects.”

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#3 Feb 21, 2013
The entire premise for this is unrealistic. The attempt to lure prochoice advocates into some flimsy logic trap is apparent in the language. This young lady is clearly happy to give birth to the product of her assault, but to presume this attitude can be adopted by all women suffering the same violation is nothing short of evil.

The utter lack of compassion and consideration for the individual women is quite telling. It's all emotional rhetoric based on a being that doesn't even know it's alive, yet.

The woman carrying it, interestingly enough, seems to have no importance at all. Her feelings don't matter at all. It's all about the fetus.

I can sum this abhorrent neglect of women's humanity up in one word: EVIL.

Since: Feb 07

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#4 Feb 21, 2013
Wait a minute.......

The first time she got pregnant, she was FORCED to abort. Niether one of you said anything about her CHOICE being taken away.

The second time she got pregnant, she CHOSE not to abort. Neither one of you appear to support her CHOICE.

I thought that you both were all about CHOICE.

“Blessed Be”

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#5 Feb 21, 2013
Susanm wrote:
Wait a minute.......
The first time she got pregnant, she was FORCED to abort. Niether one of you said anything about her CHOICE being taken away.
The second time she got pregnant, she CHOSE not to abort. Neither one of you appear to support her CHOICE.
I thought that you both were all about CHOICE.
You're obviously not reading the same posts that I am. There was nothing there that suggested she should not be allowed to make the choice to continue her pregnancy. Nothing. Ocean indicated she thought the child was coerced by her parents. And Leonine only said that one can't assume that it was the choice everyone should make. They both indicated doubt that the story is even true. I agree with them. I think it's just an attempt by someone to manipulate girls and women who are pregnant as a result of rape, to guilt them into continuing their pregnancies. But there was no suggestion by either of them that it should not be her choice.

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#6 Feb 21, 2013
"This girl made one choice (possibly -- and probably -- coerced by her parents)"

Why would the parents coerce her to continue the second pregnancy whe the father forced her to abort the first one?

"The woman carrying it, interestingly enough, seems to have no importance at all. Her feelings don't matter at all. It's all about the fetus."

Leonine appears to be the one who gives no importance to the woman and her choice.

“Blessed Be”

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#7 Feb 21, 2013
Susanm wrote:
"This girl made one choice (possibly -- and probably -- coerced by her parents)"
Why would the parents coerce her to continue the second pregnancy whe the father forced her to abort the first one?
"The woman carrying it, interestingly enough, seems to have no importance at all. Her feelings don't matter at all. It's all about the fetus."
Leonine appears to be the one who gives no importance to the woman and her choice.
Nonsense, your desperation is showing. So Ocean said "parents" instead of "mother". Big deal. IIRC Leonine was not even talking about this specific case, but was making a general comment. And neither of them indicated in any way that she should not be allowed to make her own choice. You just wanted something to whine about, and spun what was actually said.

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#8 Feb 21, 2013
Bitner wrote:
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Nonsense, your desperation is showing. So Ocean said "parents" instead of "mother". Big deal. IIRC Leonine was not even talking about this specific case, but was making a general comment. And neither of them indicated in any way that she should not be allowed to make her own choice. You just wanted something to whine about, and spun what was actually said.
There was no spin, just observation.

“Blessed Be”

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#9 Feb 21, 2013
Susanm wrote:
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There was no spin, just observation.
No, it was spin, because what you claimed could not have been "observed". It quite simply wasn't there to be seen. Neither of them indicated in any way, shape, or form, that this girl should not be allowed to make her own choice.

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#10 Feb 21, 2013
Bitner wrote:
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No, it was spin, because what you claimed could not have been "observed". It quite simply wasn't there to be seen. Neither of them indicated in any way, shape, or form, that this girl should not be allowed to make her own choice.
Exactly-neither one of the said anything about her choice, either when it was taken away from her or when she exercised it. They don't appear to be interested in her choice at all.

“Blessed Be”

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#11 Feb 21, 2013
Susanm wrote:
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Exactly-neither one of the said anything about her choice, either when it was taken away from her or when she exercised it. They don't appear to be interested in her choice at all.
One doesn't have to be interesting in the choice she made to support her right to make it. Still, neither of them suggested in any way that she shouldn't be able to make her own choice. Like I said, your desperation is showing.

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#12 Feb 21, 2013
Bitner wrote:
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One doesn't have to be interesting in the choice she made to support her right to make it. Still, neither of them suggested in any way that she shouldn't be able to make her own choice. Like I said, your desperation is showing.
The desperation is all on you. Maybe one, or both of them will post about how much they support her choice not to abort.

“Blessed Be”

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#13 Feb 21, 2013
Susanm wrote:
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The desperation is all on you. Maybe one, or both of them will post about how much they support her choice not to abort.
We don't support the choices made, just the right to make one's own reproductive choices. That's something you like to dishonestly ignore.

It doesn't matter what they post now, the point is that your accusation was false. Nothing either of them said indicated they thought she should not be allowed to make the choice to continue her pregnancy. Nothing. You wanted something to whine about, and spun what was actually said. It's what you do.

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#14 Feb 21, 2013
Bitner wrote:
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We don't support the choices made, just the right to make one's own reproductive choices. That's something you like to dishonestly ignore.
It doesn't matter what they post now, the point is that your accusation was false. Nothing either of them said indicated they thought she should not be allowed to make the choice to continue her pregnancy. Nothing. You wanted something to whine about, and spun what was actually said. It's what you do.
What do youo see in either post that leads you to believe that they support her right to choose? Neither one of them said anything about even remotely addressed her right to choose, either when it was taken away from her or when she exercised it.
Ocean56

AOL

#15 Feb 21, 2013
Susanm wrote:
Wait a minute.......
The first time she got pregnant, she was FORCED to abort. Niether one of you said anything about her CHOICE being taken away.
The second time she got pregnant, she CHOSE not to abort. Neither one of you appear to support her CHOICE.
I thought that you both were all about CHOICE.
I'm confused. WHERE did I say I didn't support this girl's or woman's choice? Please point that out to me, if you can.

All I said was that had I been in that same horrific situation, I would have made a DIFFERENT choice...to abort the product of the molester. How you can spin that into a dishonest implication that I don't support her choice is beyond me.

“Blessed Be”

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#16 Feb 21, 2013
Susanm wrote:
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What do youo see in either post that leads you to believe that they support her right to choose? Neither one of them said anything about even remotely addressed her right to choose, either when it was taken away from her or when she exercised it.
Ah, no, sorry. You don't get to try to turn this around. You made an accusation. It was baseless.

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#17 Feb 21, 2013
Ocean56 wrote:
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I'm confused. WHERE did I say I didn't support this girl's or woman's choice? Please point that out to me, if you can.
All I said was that had I been in that same horrific situation, I would have made a DIFFERENT choice...to abort the product of the molester. How you can spin that into a dishonest implication that I don't support her choice is beyond me.
My observation is that you didn't say that you supported her choice, either when the choice was taken away from her or when she exercised it, in either circumstance.

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#18 Feb 21, 2013
Bitner wrote:
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Ah, no, sorry. You don't get to try to turn this around. You made an accusation. It was baseless.
Hahahaha, there was no accusation!

“Blessed Be”

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#19 Feb 21, 2013
Susanm wrote:
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Hahahaha, there was no accusation!
Of course there was. Have you forgotten your words are still here to be seen?

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#20 Feb 21, 2013
Bitner wrote:
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Of course there was. Have you forgotten your words are still here to be seen?
Of course they are there, so are theirs. Neither one of them said anything about supporting her right to choose. That is exactly what IO said in the beginning.

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