Anti-Choice Politicians Fight Sex Education Programs that Help Reduce Abortion

Apr 29, 2013 Full story: Bush v. Choice 10

When it comes to comprehensive sex education, anti-choice politicians - the same ones who want to ban access to safe abortion care - are fighting to block teens from receiving objective and complete information .

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Ocean56

AOL

#1 Apr 30, 2013
"When it comes to comprehensive sex education, anti-choice politicians - the same ones who want to ban access to safe abortion care - are fighting to block teens from receiving objective and complete information."

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Of course they are. In their tiny little minds, teens that are "too educated," especially girls, might decide they don't EVER want to marry, get pregnant and have kids. For regressive imbeciles who are stupid enough to believe in the 19th century "cult of true womanhood," the idea of girls and women deciding NOT to have children is anathema.

So the best way to get more teen girls pregnant is to deny them knowledge of the ways to AVOID unwanted pregnancy, except abstinence of course. But I have a feeling that if girls avoided sex just to avoid unwanted pregnancy for an indefinite period of time, the regressive anti-choice imbeciles would WHINE about that too.

Freedom

Narara, Australia

#2 Apr 30, 2013
I'm not surprised. It's never been about reducing unwanted pregnancies. It's all about control, with that lot...and he who controls the womb controls the world.

Keeping women uneducated to their options and indoctrinating them into a religious and world view that limits their potential to mere breeding vessels is the best way to gain numbers. Don't allow them a chance to decide for themselves if they want kids, make sure they have them and raise them to be as ignorant, self-hating and blind as they are.

Monsters.
Ocean56

AOL

#3 May 1, 2013
Freedom wrote:
I'm not surprised. It's never been about reducing unwanted pregnancies. It's all about control, with that lot...and he who controls the womb controls the world.
Keeping women uneducated to their options and indoctrinating them into a religious and world view that limits their potential to mere breeding vessels is the best way to gain numbers. Don't allow them a chance to decide for themselves if they want kids, make sure they have them and raise them to be as ignorant, self-hating and blind as they are.
Monsters.
Agreed. I wonder what the regressive anti-choice politicians will say when more girls and young women make it their personal mission to educate THEMSELVES instead of relying on their school systems to do it for them.
zef

Los Angeles, CA

#4 May 1, 2013
Ocean56 wrote:
"When it comes to comprehensive sex education, anti-choice politicians - the same ones who want to ban access to safe abortion care - are fighting to block teens from receiving objective and complete information."
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Of course they are. In their tiny little minds, teens that are "too educated," especially girls, might decide they don't EVER want to marry, get pregnant and have kids. For regressive imbeciles who are stupid enough to believe in the 19th century "cult of true womanhood," the idea of girls and women deciding NOT to have children is anathema.
So the best way to get more teen girls pregnant is to deny them knowledge of the ways to AVOID unwanted pregnancy, except abstinence of course. But I have a feeling that if girls avoided sex just to avoid unwanted pregnancy for an indefinite period of time, the regressive anti-choice imbeciles would WHINE about that too.
Choosing, or choice is a mental process that cannot be controlled by external forces. To say one is pro-choice or anti-choice, or has the right to choose etc. makes absolutely no sense. For how can one be for, or against, or have the right to something that is impossible to control? Simply put, one cannot. Only the actions or options that we choose can be controlled, the choices themselves cannot be controlled. The English term 'mental process' means (psychology) the performance of some composite cognitive activity; an operation that affects mental contents. A theory of ironic processes of mental control is proposed to account for the intentional and counterintentional effects that result from efforts at self-control of mental states. The theory holds that an attempt to control the mind introduces two processes: an operating process that promotes the intended change by searching for mental contents consistent with the intended state and a monitoring process that tests whether the operating process is needed by searching for mental contents inconsistent with the intended state. The operating process requires greater cognitive capacity and normally has more pronounced cognitive effects than the monitoring process, and the two working together thus promote whatever degree of mental control is enjoyed. Under conditions that reduce capacity, however, the monitoring process may supersede the operating process and thus enhance the person's sensitivity to mental contents that are the ironic opposite of those that are intended. The phenomenon has been identified through thought suppression studies in experimental psychology. Social psychologist Daniel Wegner and his colleagues first studied thought suppression in a laboratory setting in 1987 by instructing participants to avoid all thoughts of a white bear. The typical finding in such experiments is that suppressing thoughts of a white bear causes the frequent return of such thoughts, sometimes even yielding a tendency to obsess about the very thought that is being suppressed. The implications for these findings have since been applied in clinical settings where thought suppression is quite common (e.g., trying not to think of one's problems or other anxiety-producing or depressing thoughts).
Freedom

Sydney, Australia

#5 May 2, 2013
zef wrote:
<quoted text> Wall of senseless text
What part of that meaningless swill has to do with the "conservative" party's determination to keep young women ignorant about their own reproductive systems and preventative measures? Are you even capable of linear thought? So far, every post I've seen from you reads like the babbling of a drooling lunatic.

Another fine example of the sort of people that make up the "prolife" movement.

I would like to hear from someone cognitive enough to discuss the subject and hopefully see how wrong it is to keep girls in the dark and encourage more unwanted pregnancies. Surely you aren't ALL mad as hatters.

“And the Horse You Rode in On”

Since: Sep 08

Minneapolis

#6 May 2, 2013
Freedom wrote:
<quoted text>
What part of that meaningless swill has to do with the "conservative" party's determination to keep young women ignorant about their own reproductive systems and preventative measures? Are you even capable of linear thought? So far, every post I've seen from you reads like the babbling of a drooling lunatic.
Another fine example of the sort of people that make up the "prolife" movement.
I would like to hear from someone cognitive enough to discuss the subject and hopefully see how wrong it is to keep girls in the dark and encourage more unwanted pregnancies. Surely you aren't ALL mad as hatters.
LOL!!

Didn't take you long to pinpoint the forum lunatic!

Zef is on an imaginary mission from the right wing god of misogynistic looney land hoping to reinstill the days of barefoot and pregnant when women answered and bowed to men.
Freedom

Sydney, Australia

#7 May 2, 2013
Morgana 9 wrote:
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LOL!!
Didn't take you long to pinpoint the forum lunatic!
Zef is on an imaginary mission from the right wing god of misogynistic looney land hoping to reinstill the days of barefoot and pregnant when women answered and bowed to men.
I'm still picking through the dubious gems of his "wisdom" and so far, I'm seeing a lot of copy and paste parroting of what I can only assume to be his homemade cue cards, most of which rarely have anything to do with the topic being discussed. He seems to have serious control issues and he gets gravely offended when anyone laments the loss of a woman's life through pregnancy complications. He wants to keep women-particularly the pregnant ones-on a tight leash and assign them different civil rights than everyone else. He thinks the draft is still in effect. I'm morbidly fascinated to see what else I'll see from him as I read through these topics.

Most of the time, he seems to talk to himself more than anything. It's like watching a train wreck. It's awful, but I can't look away...
Ocean56

AOL

#8 May 2, 2013
Freedom wrote:
What part of that meaningless swill has to do with the "conservative" party's determination to keep young women ignorant about their own reproductive systems and preventative measures? Are you even capable of linear thought?
Meaningless swill is pretty much ALL that "zef" posts; I've read enough of his/her idiotic posts to say that. Regressive conservative imbeciles seem to like babbling on about nothing, as zef constantly does, to cover up the fact they have NOTHING intelligent to say and NO rational arguments to make.

I pity ANY woman who honestly believes what "zef" or any other anti-choice politician has to say. Thankfully, WE (intelligent prochoicers) don't have to.
zef

Los Angeles, CA

#9 May 2, 2013
Freedom wrote:
<quoted text>
What part of that meaningless swill has to do with the "conservative" party's determination to keep young women ignorant about their own reproductive systems and preventative measures? Are you even capable of linear thought? So far, every post I've seen from you reads like the babbling of a drooling lunatic.
Another fine example of the sort of people that make up the "prolife" movement.
I would like to hear from someone cognitive enough to discuss the subject and hopefully see how wrong it is to keep girls in the dark and encourage more unwanted pregnancies. Surely you aren't ALL mad as hatters.
Human Life Begins at Fertilization
"Human development begins after the union of male and female gametes or germ cells during a process known as fertilization (conception).
"Fertilization is a sequence of events that begins with the contact of a sperm (spermatozoon) with a secondary oocyte (ovum) and ends with the fusion of their pronuclei (the haploid nuclei of the sperm and ovum) and the mingling of their chromosomes to form a new cell. This fertilized ovum, known as a zygote, is a large diploid cell that is the beginning, or primordium, of a human being."
"Embryo: The developing individual between the union of the germ cells and the completion of the organs which characterize its body when it becomes a separate organism.... At the moment the sperm cell of the human male meets the ovum of the female and the union results in a fertilized ovum (zygote), a new life has begun.... The term embryo covers the several stages of early development from conception to the ninth or tenth week of life."
[Considine, Douglas (ed.). Van Nostrand's Scientific Encyclopedia. 5th edition. New York: Van Nostrand Reinhold Company, 1976, p. 943]
[Moore, Keith L. Essentials of Human Embryology. Toronto: B.C. Decker Inc, 1988, p.2]
"Zygote. This cell, formed by the union of an ovum and a sperm (Gr. zyg tos, yoked together), represents the beginning of a human being. The common expression 'fertilized ovum' refers to the zygote."
[Moore, Keith L. and Persaud, T.V.N. Before We Are Born: Essentials of Embryology and Birth Defects. 4th edition. Philadelphia: W.B. Saunders Company, 1993, p. 1]
"Although life is a continuous process, fertilization is a critical landmark because, under ordinary circumstances, a new, genetically distinct human organism is thereby formed.... The combination of 23 chromosomes present in each pronucleus results in 46 chromosomes in the zygote. Thus the diploid number is restored and the embryonic genome is formed. The embryo now exists as a genetic unity."
[O'Rahilly, Ronan and Müller, Fabiola. Human Embryology & Teratology. 2nd edition. New York: Wiley-Liss, 1996, pp. 8, 29. This textbook lists "pre-embryo" among "discarded and replaced terms" in modern embryology, describing it as "ill-defined and inaccurate" (p. 12}]
"Almost all higher animals start their lives from a single cell, the fertilized ovum (zygote)... The time of fertilization represents the starting point in the life history, or ontogeny, of the individual."
[Carlson, Bruce M. Patten's Foundations of Embryology. 6th edition. New York: McGraw-Hill, 1996, p. 3]

“And the Horse You Rode in On”

Since: Sep 08

Minneapolis

#10 May 2, 2013
Freedom wrote:
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I'm still picking through the dubious gems of his "wisdom" and so far, I'm seeing a lot of copy and paste parroting of what I can only assume to be his homemade cue cards, most of which rarely have anything to do with the topic being discussed. He seems to have serious control issues and he gets gravely offended when anyone laments the loss of a woman's life through pregnancy complications. He wants to keep women-particularly the pregnant ones-on a tight leash and assign them different civil rights than everyone else. He thinks the draft is still in effect. I'm morbidly fascinated to see what else I'll see from him as I read through these topics.
Most of the time, he seems to talk to himself more than anything. It's like watching a train wreck. It's awful, but I can't look away...
Zeffy is your typical fanatic with no life and thus needs to focus on other peoples lives.

Sad case huh?

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