A right to abortions is not 'empowering'

[Jerry]

impeach bush wrote:

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Standing by and screaming at the women walking into the clinic, does not count as having "worked at a local clinic"

Your sarcasim is again proof you cannot battle my superior intellect. Without sarcasm, you become speechless in the face of truth.

liberalismisasin.com

[Jerry]

impeach bush wrote:

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Please post some details or links to these mysterious "studies". I am afraid that based on your previous posts, I am inclinded to need a little more than your word to believe what you claim.

I don't need to follow your directions for proving anything. I speak the truth and those studies do exist. Why don't you prove they are not outthere?

Well, because for you, they may indeed not exist if all you use for reference are websites like moron.org and similar extremist sources.

[Jerry]

impeach bush wrote:

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As always, you are pathetic, and sad. To deny your own words is even sadder than usual for you.

It is you who are being decietful and do not know the facts. I take your denials with a grain of salt. It has proven to be accurate in the past. You have not given me any reason to doubt that.

[Jerry]

impeach bush wrote:

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Jerry,
Please tell me which of thes quotes is NOT on the link you post....
"Catholic Monarch Queen Isabella of Spain
Glorious Promoter of the Inquisition"
""Who is not with me is (13) against me are the words of Our Lord Himself, for denial of Catholic truth is the radical and common element of both heresy and infidelity."
"Fifty-three millions of our population is anti-Catholic. From this mass, heretical and infidel, exhales an atmosphere filled with germs poisonous and fatal to Catholic life, if permitted to take root in the Catholic heart. "
"It is natural that Protestantism and infidelity should find public expression."
"Our literature is permeated and saturated with non-Catholic dogmatism. On all sides do we find this opposing spirit. We cannot escape from it."

Don't talk to me about theology and morality. You are not credible in this area. Don't forget that the Devil himself also quoted scripture to Jesus. And he was proved wrong.

You are wrong too.

Let me give you a little advice, you guys are on an impossible mission to try to demonstrate that the website is somehow wrong. Indeed in may be wrong to an extremist and fanatic. But you, myfriend, will never prove this wrong because it is not wrong.

But I am glad that you take it seriously, because it is serious.

liberalismisasin.com

[C Hamilton]

Staberdearth wrote:

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But then, your argument makes perfect sense...to yourself. You think it really is ALL ABOUT YOU!
Pro-Choice? Who didn't get to make the choice?
Hmm, that's right..we conveniently, through legal chcanery struck the rights of the unborn from the debate. They are defined as not human but mere products of conception.
As I stated earlier, someday we will look back on this period in our history in "shock and awe"...
Don't try to slip me a lame comparative argument like Steve-O tends to do whenever he's on these boards...

Well I'm terribly sorry I didn't include YOU in on the decision. Yes, it is about ME and it's about MY family. The unborn have no rights until viability. Given that my abortion was performed at nor more than 5-6 weeks, there were no rights to the "unborn."

[impeach bush]

Jerry wrote:

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I don't need to follow your directions for proving anything. I speak the truth and those studies do exist. Why don't you prove they are not outthere?
Well, because for you, they may indeed not exist if all you use for reference are websites like moron.org and similar extremist sources.

As I thought, you are simply making things up again.

Your question, "Why don't you prove they are not out there?", is a prime example of why people laugh at you (especially when you try to convince them that you are more intelligent than a 2nd grader). Why don't you prove there is no Santa clause, or Hogwarts school of magic. How about this.... I say that Jesus was gay, please prove he was not.

[impeach bush]

Jerry wrote:

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Don't talk to me about theology and morality. You are not credible in this area. Don't forget that the Devil himself also quoted scripture to Jesus. And he was proved wrong.
You are wrong too.
Let me give you a little advice, you guys are on an impossible mission to try to demonstrate that the website is somehow wrong. Indeed in may be wrong to an extremist and fanatic. But you, myfriend, will never prove this wrong because it is not wrong.
But I am glad that you take it seriously, because it is serious.
liberalismisasin.com

So I see you have not denied any of those things I posted. Here are the facts....The web site you reference is religiously bigoted. It is at the very least elitists. It promotes violence. It is anti-semetic. It promotes hatred of all other religons other than the Catholic church.
It is a disgusting piece of garbage, and the filthy piece of sub-human sewage that wrote it should be burning in the depths of hell.
Anyone other than a convoluted extremist/fanatic like yourself would be horrified by what is written on that site. I don't take anything on that site seriously because is is nothing but worthless hate, and seriously flawed.

By the way Jr, I forgot more about theology and morality, than you will ever know.

[Barky von Schnauzer]

tori wrote:

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so all PL's should be vegan as well?

I am referring to people who are against abortion, but pro war. Don't worry about the children already here who don't have adequate healthcare, some are homeless. Where is the outcry for these people. AND against the war!!!

[tori]

Barky von Schnauzer wrote:

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I am referring to people who are against abortion, but pro war. Don't worry about the children already here who don't have adequate healthcare, some are homeless. Where is the outcry for these people. AND against the war!!!

hypocrites?

you know the arguement... the unborn is innocent.

[oh please]

EdM wrote:

It is always interesting to read about someone who defines what an "unborn baby" is then fumes that other people don't accept it. Arguing that an embryo is an unborn baby leads us to a number of questions. First, why are hundreds of thousands of embryos spontaneously aborted? Should that make women criminals because they got pregnant but could not support the fetus (manslaughter especially if it happens a second time)? If God gave us this "gift" does taking it away make Him the biggest abortionist of them all? I am sure that most women who get an abortion do not agree that they are killing an unborn. In the USA, most of these women are Christians -- many born again. How much more realistic is the fact that the embryo spontaneously aborting is just evolution preserving the survival of the fitest. If so then why is anyabortion wrong? Abortion is not something that I would try to disuade only because I like kids. However, I would not inject myself in a matter that is the women's perogative or a matter between her God and herself. How un-Christian and presumptous for someone to determine what pleases or displeases God. It is a sin of arrogance!

It is funny, because I hear this arguement all the time. But the fact is that in most states abortion is not legal just in the first trimester (which this theory is about) but is legal up to the last. So if you have complications in the later months a child can be saved and be completely healthy, so then how can you say that is okay?

[oh please]

jbone wrote:

Another issue that can be debated until we’re all dead.
I could never possibly imagine what its like to go through childbirth, but you will never eliminate the option of abortion completely. Doing so would only create more problems. The best option is to regulate it like alcohol or I guarantee you will end up dealing with highly risky “back-alley-style” abortions that jeopardize both mother and fetus.
Ever hear of prohibition? Even when something is illegal, if there is enough of a “drive” to seek something out, you can be damn certain someone is going to do it, regardless of the consequences.

Same with drugs, murder and theft, should we make all those legal too, just so it doesn't hurt anyone.

[impeach bush]

oh please wrote:

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Same with drugs, murder and theft, should we make all those legal too, just so it doesn't hurt anyone.

Let me make it easy for you (It's sad that I have to). Drugs, murder and theft, all involve BREATHING organisms.

[oh please]

impeach bush wrote:

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Let me make it easy for you (It's sad that I have to). Drugs, murder and theft, all involve BREATHING organisms.

You just like to hear youself don't you. You make no sense. I was responding to a certain post. So buzz off.

[impeach bush]

oh please wrote:

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You just like to hear youself don't you. You make no sense. I was responding to a certain post. So buzz off.

Welcome to a PUBLIC forum. You really aren't real smart are you?
If you want to talk one-on-one, use a phone.
If the comments get too tough in here, go shopping, or church.

[Barky von Schnauzer]

tori wrote:

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hypocrites?
you know the arguement... the unborn is innocent.

Yeah, hypocrites. Protect that innocent unborn, because once they take a breath of air, they are no longer worth any concern. Makes no sense to me.

[Avis]

Jerry wrote:

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Please see response from ami STL. Now here is a very knowledgeable and stupendous and accurate and intelligent response, that says it better than I could. And you know that I could come up with one almost as good, but enought to best you as proven time and again.
liberalismisasin.com

So your point is so obvious you don't have to bother to make it?

Jerry, as usual, I have no idea what you're talking about and I suspect you don't either.

[Salisbury_Chick]

having an abortion is not empowering... but taking a woman rights away removes any power she may have. my body, my choice!!!!

[foxfroggy]

Jerry wrote:

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For your information I worked at a local clinic. So, I have experience with some of the problems those women have experienced. I was not a counselor but was aware of some of their problems.
So, what is your bona fide?
liberalismisasin.com

And what are yours? "I worked at a clinic" could mean you were the janitor, although most good clinics have higher standards for employees.

[foxfroggy]

oh please wrote:

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It is funny, because I hear this arguement all the time. But the fact is that in most states abortion is not legal just in the first trimester (which this theory is about) but is legal up to the last. So if you have complications in the later months a child can be saved and be completely healthy, so then how can you say that is okay?

Because, you ignorant twit, late term abortions are virtually always for serious fetal defects or for maternal illness that is life threatening. It's not up to you to decide what is "OK" for another woman.

[foxfroggy]

tori wrote:

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hypocrites?
you know the arguement... the unborn is innocent.

Yes, but many these same "innocent unborn" boo-hooers also claim that we are born corrupted by original sin.