Thousands Protest Roe V. Wade Decision

Thousands Protest Roe V. Wade Decision

There are 346563 comments on the Newsday story from Jan 22, 2008, titled Thousands Protest Roe V. Wade Decision. In it, Newsday reports that:

Thousands of abortion opponents marched from the National Mall to the Supreme Court on Tuesday in their annual remembrance of the court's Roe v. Wade decision.

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Chick Brilliance Returns

Brookfield, CT

#293688 Apr 26, 2013
Susanm wrote:
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They don't need to do interviews, it should be recorded in their records.
See, if you were actually in health care, you would know that the press does not have access to medical records.
Chick Brilliance Returns

Brookfield, CT

#293689 Apr 26, 2013
Susanm wrote:
<quoted text>
"They went to him out of desperation. Poor, non=english speaking, illiterate, uneducated. Yet another arena where society has failed the poor."
This sounds like the clientele of many abortion "clinics".
Only to the desperately misinformed.
Katie

Auburn, WA

#293690 Apr 26, 2013
Susanm wrote:
<quoted text>
"Let's see, it was a pro"choice" governor that stopped the inspections of abortion "clinic", and it was the National Abortion Federation that failed to report the conditions that they found in Gosnell's "clinic", and it was other abortionists that referred patients to him. Sounds like the pro"choicers" failed them big-time."
Why did you only choose one out of the list?
Because it was the one you forgot to mention (until after my post).
Chick Brilliance Returns

Brookfield, CT

#293691 Apr 26, 2013
Susanm wrote:
<quoted text>
Chickensh!t, you're back.......how long will it be before you're banned AGAIN??????
As long as it takes you to be banned AGAIN!!
feces for jesus

Brooklyn, NY

#293692 Apr 26, 2013
Gtown71 wrote:
<quoted text>
By the way -you still saying there is no Hell? Do you have it fiquered out what happens after death?
I have never said there is no hell, you forking moron. I have repeated that the word is not in the original bible and that the original,and current meaning of Hel has nothing to do with your religion. You're obviously too stupid to understand these simple facts that I've repeated.

I don't claim to know what happens after we die like you and your fellow christards do.
Chick Brilliance Returns

Brookfield, CT

#293693 Apr 26, 2013
not a playa1965 wrote:
<quoted text>What are you trying to say here? Your original assertion was that the organizations you mentioned should be 'pointing that out' about legal LTA's being of a medically necessary nature. Which they routinely do.
What is it you want? A national shriving?
Abortion rights activists nationwide to apologize for Gosnell and his illegal activities?
How 'bout the so-called 'pro-life' legislators nationwide, apologize for limiting access to legal safe abortion?
Neither is likely.
Susan can not think rationally on this topic. Any woman ever having an abortion, or who is pro choice, is responsible for Gosnell. its all their fault. All because she has a miscarriage and is unable to move on. Her abortion was spontaneous so its ok while a medical abortion is not. She is superior in her devastating loss so gets to punish others.
Katie

Auburn, WA

#293694 Apr 26, 2013
Chick Brilliance Returns wrote:
<quoted text>
Hi Katie. So good to see you. Im going to create an email address so we can catch up. I'll post it later.:)
i have a new email address since my old was hacked into a year ago. grrr! that one still pisses me off for the documents on it :(

learned my lesson, though. use a separate computer altogether for personal stuff and it doesn't go online.

Since: Feb 07

Location hidden

#293697 Apr 26, 2013
not a playa1965 wrote:
<quoted text>What are you trying to say here? Your original assertion was that the organizations you mentioned should be 'pointing that out' about legal LTA's being of a medically necessary nature. Which they routinely do.
What is it you want? A national shriving?
Abortion rights activists nationwide to apologize for Gosnell and his illegal activities?
How 'bout the so-called 'pro-life' legislators nationwide, apologize for limiting access to legal safe abortion?
Neither is likely.
"Your original assertion was that the organizations you mentioned should be 'pointing that out' about legal LTA's being of a medically necessary nature."

My point was that no one pointed to any of the reasons that you listed in connection with Gosnell. Guess why??? Because he didn't do them for those reasons. The women that went to him/were sent to him for late-term abortions were goin for ILLEGAL abortions.

not a playa1965

|#293531 Susanm wrote:
<quoted text>
If Gosnell is quilty of criminal intent, so are the women who whent to his "clinic" for late-term abortions.

not a playa1965 replied:
And you're salivating at the chance to put women in prison for aborting an anencephalic fetus, or one with Tae Sachs, or those electing to have their dead fetuses removed without a C-section..

and from then on, oblige those with dead fetii, to carry them until natural delivery?

You DO realize that that is why the majority of LTA's are performed, right?

Such Christian compassion. The heart melts.

#293534

Susanm replied:
Nothing was said about Gosnell abortiong for any of those reasons.

#293550
not a playa1965replied:

Doesn't fit the so-called 'pro-life' agenda, to report that sort of thing...or maybe those women have been traumatized enough, and are refusing to feed themselves to the media.

#293559

Susanm replied:

I'm sure that if that was the case the probe "choicers" would be pointing that out.

Since: Feb 07

Location hidden

#293698 Apr 26, 2013
rosesz wrote:
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It happens. Your post was very interesting. I realize that Roe is law and not likely to be changed. I just cannot figure out why there are so many babies whose lives are ended in this day and age.
Abortion is not eady on the women either. If places like PP and othef womens clinics were foi g a great job for women..mird contraception would bd practiced..one would think..
When the womens movement started..the emphasis was on birth control. And equal pay but now abortiin is big business. The offspring seem to be of no interest except as a means for politics and money.
There is so much education that the PcC side could dissemjnate besides thd CHOICE mantra..and tge PL side coukd be more reslistic. IMHO
In old testament times babies were sacrificed to placate false deities. The sltar of the slmost religion of Choice has clsimed many sacrifices.
I know this is not a popular concept. But this brushing aside of the knowledge that it is a living being being destroyed had led society down a slippery slope of disrdgard for life. Again IMHO.
I have the advantage of libing thru the history of the womens movement. The emphasis used to be on equality ..not on doing away with offspring..that is sad
"abortiin is big business."

There's your answer.

CONTRACEPTIVE USE

• Fifty-four percent of women who have abortions had used a contraceptive method (usually the condom or the pill) during the month they became pregnant. Among those women, 76% of pill users and 49% of condom users report having used their method inconsistently, while 13% of pill users and 14% of condom users report correct use.[8]

• Forty-six percent of women who have abortions had not used a contraceptive method during the month they became pregnant. Of these women, 33% had perceived themselves to be at low risk for pregnancy, 32% had had concerns about contraceptive methods, 26% had had unexpected sex and 1% had been forced to have sex.[8]

• Eight percent of women who have abortions have never used a method of birth control; nonuse is greatest among those who are young, poor, black, Hispanic or less educated.[8]

• About half of unintended pregnancies occur among the 11% of women who are at risk for unintended pregnancy but are not using contraceptives. Most of these women have practiced contraception in the past.[9,10]

http://www.guttmacher.org/pubs/fb_induced_abo...
rosesz

Pompano Beach, FL

#293699 Apr 26, 2013
Susanm wrote:
<quoted text>
"abortiin is big business."
There's your answer.
CONTRACEPTIVE USE
• Fifty-four percent of women who have abortions had used a contraceptive method (usually the condom or the pill) during the month they became pregnant. Among those women, 76% of pill users and 49% of condom users report having used their method inconsistently, while 13% of pill users and 14% of condom users report correct use.[8]
• Forty-six percent of women who have abortions had not used a contraceptive method during the month they became pregnant. Of these women, 33% had perceived themselves to be at low risk for pregnancy, 32% had had concerns about contraceptive methods, 26% had had unexpected sex and 1% had been forced to have sex.[8]
• Eight percent of women who have abortions have never used a method of birth control; nonuse is greatest among those who are young, poor, black, Hispanic or less educated.[8]
• About half of unintended pregnancies occur among the 11% of women who are at risk for unintended pregnancy but are not using contraceptives. Most of these women have practiced contraception in the past.[9,10]
http://www.guttmacher.org/pubs/fb_induced_abo...
Sad state of affairs. What percentage had previous abortions? I know 2 women who had multiples. And I am not a young person with a young group of friends. Some look at it as a birth control method.
One idea would be for Pp to use their government stipend and contributions to OFFER shots or a years supply of pills for its clients who come in and Pay for tbeir abortion. ALONG WITH DETAILED EDUCATION ON THEIR USE..And thereafter offer a discount. Of course this might get the women in the BC habit and cut down on future procedures. They keep saying tge government money is not for abortions the politicians keep saying they want abortions rare..this would be one way to at least try to slow down the number and KEEP WOMEN from undergoing multiple procedures.
Now I realize no one can force the women to use it..but if they learn how and have a shot or pills in hand the odds go up that they will.

Or how about if a woman goes to Pp and is poor put them on a plan payed for again by that supposedly non abortion government money to defray BC costs..or get them long term type BC. EVEN phatmacie offer BC pills at discount..the clinics should have regular classes for all these women. Maybe they do to some extent???

But the sad fact is that abirtion on demand is a business..and politics. There is no incentive to reduce the number. And even for people who dont care about the babies..yes babies..whose lives are cut short..what about the women..The fewer medical procedures on her body the less chance for damage or complications..not even mentioning the possible psychological and yes spiritual effects.

These ard jusf a few suggestions maybe a hundred less abortions maybe more. But every abortion that does not happen or BECOME NECESSARY should be a good thing for both sides of the argument. After alk the pkls say tgey should be rare.
and none require picketing or step on anyones legal rights.:)

“Truly Pro-Life”

Since: Nov 11

Proudly Pro-choice

#293702 Apr 26, 2013
Susanm wrote:
<quoted text>
"Your original assertion was that the organizations you mentioned should be 'pointing that out' about legal LTA's being of a medically necessary nature."
My point was that no one pointed to any of the reasons that you listed in connection with Gosnell. Guess why??? Because he didn't do them for those reasons. The women that went to him/were sent to him for late-term abortions were goin for ILLEGAL abortions.
not a playa1965
|#293531 Susanm wrote:
<quoted text>
If Gosnell is quilty of criminal intent, so are the women who whent to his "clinic" for late-term abortions.
not a playa1965 replied:
And you're salivating at the chance to put women in prison for aborting an anencephalic fetus, or one with Tae Sachs, or those electing to have their dead fetuses removed without a C-section..
and from then on, oblige those with dead fetii, to carry them until natural delivery?
You DO realize that that is why the majority of LTA's are performed, right?
Such Christian compassion. The heart melts.
#293534
Susanm replied:
Nothing was said about Gosnell abortiong for any of those reasons.
#293550
not a playa1965replied:
Doesn't fit the so-called 'pro-life' agenda, to report that sort of thing...or maybe those women have been traumatized enough, and are refusing to feed themselves to the media.
#293559
Susanm replied:
I'm sure that if that was the case the probe "choicers" would be pointing that out.
Once more for the slow: Gosnell's patients' reasons for their late term abortions cannot be made public knowledge by anyone other than themselves...and they're not likely to.

Get
a
grip.

“Truly Pro-Life”

Since: Nov 11

Proudly Pro-choice

#293704 Apr 26, 2013
rosesz wrote:
<quoted text>
Sad state of affairs. What percentage had previous abortions? I know 2 women who had multiples. And I am not a young person with a young group of friends. Some look at it as a birth control method.
One idea would be for Pp to use their government stipend and contributions to OFFER shots or a years supply of pills for its clients who come in and Pay for tbeir abortion. ALONG WITH DETAILED EDUCATION ON THEIR USE..And thereafter offer a discount. Of course this might get the women in the BC habit and cut down on future procedures. They keep saying tge government money is not for abortions the politicians keep saying they want abortions rare..this would be one way to at least try to slow down the number and KEEP WOMEN from undergoing multiple procedures.
Now I realize no one can force the women to use it..but if they learn how and have a shot or pills in hand the odds go up that they will.
Or how about if a woman goes to Pp and is poor put them on a plan payed for again by that supposedly non abortion government money to defray BC costs..or get them long term type BC. EVEN phatmacie offer BC pills at discount..the clinics should have regular classes for all these women. Maybe they do to some extent???
But the sad fact is that abirtion on demand is a business..and politics. There is no incentive to reduce the number. And even for people who dont care about the babies..yes babies..whose lives are cut short..what about the women..The fewer medical procedures on her body the less chance for damage or complications..not even mentioning the possible psychological and yes spiritual effects.
These ard jusf a few suggestions maybe a hundred less abortions maybe more. But every abortion that does not happen or BECOME NECESSARY should be a good thing for both sides of the argument. After alk the pkls say tgey should be rare.
and none require picketing or step on anyones legal rights.:)
You'll have a lot less angst about this, if you quit sticking your nose in other folks' reproductive lives, you know.

Get a different hobby...like badminton, or butterfly collecting.
Chick Brilliance Returns

Brookfield, CT

#293705 Apr 26, 2013
chicky is a perv wrote:
<quoted text> You know your throwing your grandchildren to the demons when you support Satan as you do. when you get down in the lake of fire, Satan will force you to have sex with your offspring, and you will love it, won't ya? You are a perverted old hag.
Aw poor perviliscious is feeling some shame over her own disgusting mind. Yet it only lasted long enough to stir up some other twisted rant about having sex with "precious, innocent, children". Must be a catholic thing. Perverted pedophiles in the priesthood and congregation.

There is no satan you poor demented, tortured, thing. Seek help before the police do that for you.
feces for jesus

Brooklyn, NY

#293706 Apr 26, 2013
chicky is a perv wrote:
<quoted text> You know your throwing your grandchildren to the demons when you support Satan as you do. when you get down in the lake of fire, Satan will force you to have sex with your offspring, and you will love it, won't ya? You are a perverted old hag.
Do all christards obsess about Satan having sex with children, like you? I guess you need to imagine such vile things to make yourself feel better than others.

Btw, you are= you're ..... As in you're an idiot.

Since: Dec 09

Location hidden

#293707 Apr 26, 2013
Susanm wrote:
<quoted text>
The breakdown happened within the Dept of Health and the Dept of State. It was assumed that they were doing their jobs. However in 1993 they stopped.
"The first line of defense was the Pennsylvania Department of Health. The
department’s job is to audit hospitals and outpatient medical facilities, like Gosnell’s, to make sure that they follow the rules and provide safe care. The department had contact
with the Women’s Medical Society dating back to 1979, when it first issued approval to
open an abortion clinic. It did not conduct another site review until 1989, ten years later.
Numerous violations were already apparent, but Gosnell got a pass when he promised to
fix them. Site reviews in 1992 and 1993 also noted various violations, but again failed to
ensure they were corrected.
But at least the department had been doing something up to that point, however
ineffectual. After 1993, even that pro forma effort came to an end. Not because of
administrative ennui, although there had been plenty. Instead, the Pennsylvania
Department of Health abruptly decided, for political reasons, to stop inspecting abortion
clinics at all. The politics in question were not anti-abortion, but pro. With the change of
administration from Governor Casey to Governor Ridge, officials concluded that
inspections would be “putting a barrier up to women” seeking abortions. Better to leave
clinics to do as they pleased, even though, as Gosnell proved, that meant both women and babies would pay."
"That leaves the government employees whose job was to make sure that things
like this don’t happen. Worth special mention is Janice Staloski of the Pennsylvania
Department of Health, who personally participated in the 1992 site visit, but decided to
let Gosnell slide on the violations that were already evident then. She eventually rose to
become director of the division that was supposed to regulate abortion providers, but
never looked at Gosnell despite specific complaints from lawyers, a doctor, and a medical
examiner. After she was nonetheless promoted, her successor as division director,
Cynthia Boyne, failed to order an investigation of the clinic even when Karnamaya
Mongar died there."
http://www.phila.gov/districtattorney/PDFs/Gr...
How many "clinics" are allowed to stay open with a promise that they will fix the violatios that are found during an inspection?
Especially in Pennsylvania. You had a PL governor in office when the complaints started coming in. PA abortion rates were higher when Casey was in office
Chicky

Falls City, NE

#293708 Apr 26, 2013
Chick Brilliance Returns wrote:
<quoted text>
Aw poor perviliscious is feeling some shame over her own disgusting mind. Yet it only lasted long enough to stir up some other twisted rant about having sex with "precious, innocent, children". Must be a catholic thing. Perverted pedophiles in the priesthood and congregation.
There is no satan you poor demented, tortured, thing. Seek help before the police do that for you.
when did the authorities let you out anyway? The thing is, you support an evil act and you will pay dearly one day if you don't repent. I bet you were Gosnell's right hand hag. Were those cats he had in his clinic yours? yep, you love your demons don't ya.... You play in Satan's sandbox , dont'cha? You remind me of that saying, Satan lifted his leg and out you came.

Since: Dec 09

Location hidden

#293709 Apr 26, 2013
Susanm wrote:
<quoted text>
"Got to page 10 or so so far..it sure looks like the state should be on trial too.
Starting off with deciding NOT to inspect clinics so as not to provide a barrier to women seeking abortions. By onference they already knew they would find offenses which they had. Wonder about othef clknics ..kind of think the barrier of insisting the pfocedures be safe would be of importance to the women going there..perforation of ghe womens organs has me gagging."
I agree. Governor Ridge should also be on trial telling the Dept of Health to ignore PA state laws, and the National Abortion Federation should be on trial for not reporting the illegal activity that they observed.
Don't forget Governor Casey he was in office getting complaints too. Had he done something about it then, Ridge would not have inherited what Casey left behind.
This isn't about being PC or PL Sue. Both sides failed to protect their right to a safe and legal abortion.
Gtown71

United States

#293710 Apr 26, 2013
Chick Brilliance Returns wrote:
<quoted text>
The only thing you know is that you are either delusional OR you have an over active imagination. That's it.
12 years ago -I went to bed believing in abortion "not sure why, but just did ", I believed folks could lived together,have all the sex they wanted with who they wanted, cursed like a sailor, really enjoyed using gods name in vain the most, didn't believe in any god, and thought you were an idiot if you did, but whatever floated your boat. I would lie, cheat, steal if it helped ME.

God woke me up, and when I yeilded to Him I woke up, with all I just mentioned in reverse.

Abortion bothered me, I hated the smallest curse word, hated the smallest of sin, let alone lie, cheat, steal.

That's been 12 years ago, and I still do.
Only A God can do that.

Not to mention how before that night I wanted nothing to do with any church, bible, praying, after -can't get enough at times.

God is real -you've been told. Have a nice day :)
Gtown71

United States

#293711 Apr 26, 2013
cpeter1313 wrote:
You're ignoring that, for the duration of the bible, most marriages were polygamous.
When the monogamy tenets were created, people lived short lives in small regions. Marriage wasn't anything like it is now--you married whoever you could afford if you were a man, and marrie whoever your parents sold you to, if you were a woman. Love didn't enter into it, and nobody cared if the wife was abused or raped. Wives could be discarded if they didn't produce male heirs (even though men are far more likely to be infertile than women, and the sperm determines the gender of the child.)
We are not rodents or dogs, we don't have anal glands. We are talking about the nervous system and the presence of nerves whose ONLY function is to transmit erotic signals.
<quoted text>
What fact? That sin didn't start in 2012?
Just becouse folks did it in bible days, didn't mean God was ok with it. He wasn't.

Body parts have many functions, but if you want to believe some are only for pleasure you can.

“Blessed Be”

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#293712 Apr 26, 2013
chicky is a perv wrote:
<quoted text> You know your throwing your grandchildren to the demons when you support Satan as you do. when you get down in the lake of fire, Satan will force you to have sex with your offspring, and you will love it, won't ya? You are a perverted old hag.
That's YOUR fantasy, you sick f*ck. Were you masturbating while you typed that? YOU are the pervert.

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