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No Relativism

Huntington, IN

#274857 Jan 7, 2013
cpeter1313 wrote:
If you can't tell the difference between NO function and REDUCED function, you're too stupid to discuss the issue.
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You are presenting a definition of "viablility" that is not related to the point at hand.

Your switcheroo happened here:

1) Your original definition of "viability": If fetus requires medical support after born, he/she is not considered viable.

2) Much, much later you changed your definition. You said a fetus is considered viable if he/she is able to live WITH medical support upon birth.

Everyone (inluding your prochoice buds) can see that you are introducing the new concept - "NO function vrs REDUCED function - as a pink flamingo. Your head fake is duly noted, but it doesn't explain or coverup your change in perspective re viability & medical support.

Why not admit that upon further review, you find fetuses who are able to live WITH medical support upon birth are considered viable?

What's so hard about that?

Admitting that you gleaned a knew perspective shouldn't cause such anxiety & insecurity in you.

Come on..........
Ink

Bensalem, PA

#274858 Jan 7, 2013
cpeter1313 wrote:
Ihave a constitutional right to point out that there are no god-given rights.
<quoted text>
What kind of rights were there before the Constitution?

“2014 TDF”

Since: Mar 09

Boca Raton, FL.

#274859 Jan 7, 2013
Ink wrote:
<quoted text>
What kind of rights were there before the Constitution?
The same ones that are in the constitution Inky. Or is it that you think the Constitution grants any rights?

Read carefully: The Constitution limits government. It does not grant rights; it recognizes the rights we already have. If the rights you thin are rights are not expressly stated in the constitution, then you'll look at the 9th Amendment, and at case law to determine whether what you think is a right, is a right.

The right to have an abortion is a right, and it's protected by the constitution.

“Dan IS the Man”

Since: May 12

Location hidden

#274860 Jan 7, 2013
Gtown71 wrote:
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Being "Happy " has very little to do with peace and joy.
Many confuse the two, just like love and sex.
It grieves me to here how many don't believe in the one true God, and you are right about how people worsgip different gods, but they cannot all be right.
Few be that find the truth.
Crissy Moran (a former porn star) found the truth.
Lead guitar player from a band called (korn) found the truth.
Gtown 71 (John) found the truth.
Any who look may find the truth.
You're just another arrogant Christian who goes around telling people that what you believe is the "truth". Yeah, we get it by now...what you Christians believe is the "truth" and everyone else is wrong yada yada.

“Don't forget to”

Since: Sep 09

smile

#274861 Jan 7, 2013
grumpy wrote:
<quoted text>Even when I wasn't impotent, Age (Junket) is the only one here to get a rise out of me.
Sweet talker! Ladies Home Journal, right?

“Don't forget to”

Since: Sep 09

smile

#274862 Jan 7, 2013
No Relativism wrote:
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grumpy: "Even when I wasn't impotent, Age (Junket) is the only one here to get a rise out of me."
I guess back in your day, corpulent women were considered attractive.
Nowadays, a picture of Age/Junket is considered a treatment for erections lasting longer than 4 hours.
Puddles! Celibacy does not seem to agree with you - perhaps you should consider entering the priesthood.
;-p
Ink

Bensalem, PA

#274863 Jan 7, 2013
cpeter1313 wrote:
Because the bible is the cudgel used by most christians to attack gays and their rights. It's the rulebook most believers follow, especially tose who say everyone else should follow it.
Of course, it's antiquated and meaningless--ALL of it. You think it's good that a rape victim had to live with her rapist by law? BTW--there were no castles in david's time. David also had a male lover, jonathan--the only real love story in the book.
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That would not be the interpertation of the relationship between David and Jonathon by Jewish and Christian scholars.
Ink

Bensalem, PA

#274864 Jan 7, 2013
Conservative Democrat wrote:
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The same ones that are in the constitution Inky. Or is it that you think the Constitution grants any rights?
Read carefully: The Constitution limits government. It does not grant rights; it recognizes the rights we already have. If the rights you thin are rights are not expressly stated in the constitution, then you'll look at the 9th Amendment, and at case law to determine whether what you think is a right, is a right.
The right to have an abortion is a right, and it's protected by the constitution.
Why are you telling me this? I have no problem knowing where my rights come from.

Give the lecture to Petey. He said:

Ihave a constitutional right to point out that there are no god-given rights.
Gtown71

United States

#274865 Jan 7, 2013
cpeter1313 wrote:
Because the bible is the cudgel used by most christians to attack gays and their rights. It's the rulebook most believers follow, especially tose who say everyone else should follow it.
Of course, it's antiquated and meaningless--ALL of it. You think it's good that a rape victim had to live with her rapist by law? BTW--there were no castles in david's time. David also had a male lover, jonathan--the only real love story in the book.
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Again, it is funny how you say the bible "all of it, as you say ",is nothing but meaningless mumble jumble, yet you turn around and say that Daivd and Jonathon was lovers.

You are not the first gay person to tell me that.
I geuss when you are gay, then you believe everyone is, and most "choose " to be straight.

Either way, Jonathon and David were not lovers, only best friends.

I think I can prove that, without a shadow of doubt.
King David didn't have the sword to never leave his home, becouse he lusted after a man, it was becouse he lusted after a woman. Plus all of the other women he had.

The story between david and Jonathon was also another of many example of how God is with us.

We lie -God does not.
We may break a contract, yet God does not.

Most kings, after taking over a kingdom, would normaly kill all that was of the house of the former king.
After david became king "a nurse took a baby (Jonathons baby), and ran with it to try and hid the child, becouse she feared david would have the chold killed. She feel as she ran, crushing the baby boys legs. He grew up in a bad place, thankful of a family who took care of him, being the time it was, there was mo welfare, and him being crippled, he could not do much work.

Years later King David began to wonder if there were any left from the house of saul.
A servant came and told david about this boy (who was now a man), and how he was Jonathons son.
David and jonathon had made a covenant, that which ever one of them outlived the other, that they would take care of the others family...

Jonathons son did not know this -all he knew was to fear david, or hate david.
All he knew was he had a bad life, and that life was nor fair.
He was didderent then others.
King david sent after this man "miphibashaft " was his name (bad spelling true story).
I cannot imagine how miphib felt, as these kings chariots came rolling up, in his small town of nothing. He feared what was about to happen.
When he is put before king david, he fell on his face, and begged david to have mercy. David told him to stand up. He told him, I don't know you, but your father and I made a deal! He then told poor ole miphib, that he now owned all the land of his fathers, and all the servants of his father, he also told him that he would eat at the kings table everynight as one of the kings son!

God is the same way. He made a covenant with His son Jesus -all wjho accept Jesus as lord and savior, they will be as the children of God.
God doesn't break His covenants.

It is not anything we deserve, it is what God says that matters.
His will, will be done!
Ink

Bensalem, PA

#274866 Jan 7, 2013
Conservative Democrat wrote:
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Talk about a vivid example of your Jeebus' teachings on humility!
You're too much of a stupid fetus worshiper to even be a good idolater, I mean, a "good christian."
Take a look at one of my favorite photos..
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thum...
Enjoy.
Why is that one of your favorite photos?
Ink

Bensalem, PA

#274867 Jan 7, 2013
elise in burque wrote:
<quoted text>Have you ever heard the saying," Ain't nothin worse than a reformed whore?" Think about it while looking in the mirror. In the meantime, I know that I am who I want and need to be, for others and for myself. I don't need a god to validate me. Thanks for your input, though:-)
" I don't need a god to validate me."

What does that mean? What would God's validation encompass?
feces for jesus

East Meadow, NY

#274868 Jan 7, 2013
Gtown71 wrote:
<quoted text>
Well first, I don't wish Hell on anyone, and neither does God.
As far as you being glad you don't believe in the same God as I, becouse He seems so bad, what is bad about my God?
He did not wish for any to go to Hell, and even allowed His only begotton son Jesus Christ to leave Heaven, be born and live a sinnless life, in this sinfilled world. He was beaten, spit on, and torchered, before dying on the cross, where He took your Sin and mine, and made a way for all to escape Hell, and go to Heaven.
As far as me posting here verses wal mart?
Many many many people read these post, even though they never comment.
I simply want to tell them my story, about how I went from darkness to light.
As far as God being ok with people believing in diffrent gods? Would you be ok (being human), if your kids (that you created) called others their parents?
God is a jelous God, and Since He created all things, can He not just be God?
Must He explain to His creation all things?
Sometimes us "sinful " parents, don't tell our kids all things, and many times kids don't understand why we do certain things, but if we are halfway good, we do those things, out of love for them.
If all the christians and or pro lifers left, how long would this post go on?
How much high fives could the pro choicers give each other?
The world doesn't revolve around you.
There are many more watching, some are looking for hope, that this nasty life, is not all there is.
There is a God,we will all meet Him, either as our Father, or as our judge.
Keep those ROFL posts coming.
feces for jesus

East Meadow, NY

#274869 Jan 7, 2013
Gtown71 wrote:
<quoted text>
You say you are of the Jewish faith?
All examples I used, is from the 10 commandments.
There shall have no other gods, before the one true God is one of them.
So there goes the theory that people may serve any or difderent gods.
Any who are justified by the law, is a debtor to do the whole law.
Jesus came, not to do away with the law, but to fulfill the law.
He is the only one to ever live who kept the whole law.
Those "in christ ",have "imputed rightousness ".
"There shall have no other gods, before the one true God is one of them."

What bible do you have???

John's super special bible, handwriten by you when you were 7? Spare us your lunacy.
Gtown71

United States

#274870 Jan 7, 2013
feces for jesus wrote:
<quoted text>
"There shall have no other gods, before the one true God is one of them."
What bible do you have???
John's super special bible, handwriten by you when you were 7? Spare us your lunacy.
I waa paraphrasing, but thinks for being on point at that one thing at least, but since you are the only one who says hell is not in the bible,I'm not sure what you call the bible?

“Reality is better than truth.”

Since: Nov 09

Indianapolis

#274871 Jan 7, 2013
It's not MY definition, nor is there a contradiction. The non-viable fetus will die regardlss of ow much air you pump into the little fu**er; the viable one will. The second case allows for the possibility of life without support; the former does not.
No Relativism wrote:
<quoted text>
You are presenting a definition of "viablility" that is not related to the point at hand.
Your switcheroo happened here:
1) Your original definition of "viability": If fetus requires medical support after born, he/she is not considered viable.
2) Much, much later you changed your definition. You said a fetus is considered viable if he/she is able to live WITH medical support upon birth.
Everyone (inluding your prochoice buds) can see that you are introducing the new concept - "NO function vrs REDUCED function - as a pink flamingo. Your head fake is duly noted, but it doesn't explain or coverup your change in perspective re viability & medical support.
Why not admit that upon further review, you find fetuses who are able to live WITH medical support upon birth are considered viable?
What's so hard about that?
Admitting that you gleaned a knew perspective shouldn't cause such anxiety & insecurity in you.
Come on..........

“Reality is better than truth.”

Since: Nov 09

Indianapolis

#274872 Jan 7, 2013
The few granted through sovereign government documents.
Ink wrote:
<quoted text>
What kind of rights were there before the Constitution?

“Reality is better than truth.”

Since: Nov 09

Indianapolis

#274873 Jan 7, 2013
Right, because they all interpret the bible in the exact same way....
Ink wrote:
<quoted text>
That would not be the interpertation of the relationship between David and Jonathon by Jewish and Christian scholars.

“Reality is better than truth.”

Since: Nov 09

Indianapolis

#274874 Jan 7, 2013
To prove god-given rights, you have to prove there is a god and that the rights you claim can be found in the scriptures.
Ink wrote:
<quoted text>
Why are you telling me this? I have no problem knowing where my rights come from.
Give the lecture to Petey. He said:
Ihave a constitutional right to point out that there are no god-given rights.
Ink

Bensalem, PA

#274875 Jan 7, 2013
cpeter1313 wrote:
The few granted through sovereign government documents.
<quoted text>
Let ask another way. Do you think you have no rights unless granted by some form of government?
Ink

Bensalem, PA

#274876 Jan 7, 2013
cpeter1313 wrote:
Right, because they all interpret the bible in the exact same way....
<quoted text>
There must be a reason for that.

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