Thousands Protest Roe V. Wade Decision

Thousands Protest Roe V. Wade Decision

There are 313381 comments on the Newsday story from Jan 22, 2008, titled Thousands Protest Roe V. Wade Decision. In it, Newsday reports that:

Thousands of abortion opponents marched from the National Mall to the Supreme Court on Tuesday in their annual remembrance of the court's Roe v. Wade decision.

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#274899 Jan 7, 2013
gtown
I'm not sure what you call the bible?

i call it another book of fiction,
Gtown71

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#274900 Jan 7, 2013
godless by choice wrote:
gtown
I'm not sure what you call the bible?
i call it another book of fiction,
Well before I met God, and He changed my "core " beliefs, then I geuss I would've agreed with you, but Idk? I never realy read it before that night about 13 years ago. I would've just asoon to cut my foot off, as to read the bible.

Now I have a good friend, who is about 57 years old, that got saved a few months before I did, and he would've agreed with you 100%.
He had read the entire bible atleast 4 times, before he was saved, and used to say that it was one of his favorite books, but it was fiction.

He nows reads it with an entirely new meaning.

It still amazes me how anyone would want to read anything about God, before they have had a one on one with God, but I am finding out more and more that they are out there.

All I know is before I met God, and was born again -I would have rather ate glass, then go to church or read a bible.

Now when I do thoughs things, it is becouse I desire to.

If given a lie detector and asked if there was a God, and what happened to me was real, then I could not lie, even if it meant my death, or the death of someone I love the most, like my 5 year old little girl.

It is something I will never get over.
It was the greatest thing to every to happen to me.
Praise the Lord!:)
HuskerDu

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#274901 Jan 7, 2013

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#274902 Jan 7, 2013
Doc Degall wrote:
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"A perp could still be charged and convicted with fetal homicide after the assault on a woman in the waiting room as she awaited the abortion of her unwanted fetus."

You make it sound like being charged with a crime is tantamount to a conviction.

"It serves another purpose as well....beyond protection"

True. But the crux of FHLs is protection of a woman's right to carry to term. Otherwise, what would you say would be another more compelling reason to seek a conviction for the UNWANTED killing of a non-citizen, who has no right to equal protection under the 14th Amendment, when the law already provides for penalties for killing, or gravely hurting the person who does; additional deterrence? C'mon!

"In any case, if a woman is assaulted and as a result her fetus, wanted or unwanted, is killed, then it is obvious that the FHL did not protect her right to carry to term now....did it ? "

If it was that simple, why not lobby to abolish orders of protection against domestic violence? A piece of paper won't stop a bullet; so what other reason could there be for a protective order to exist, but to show that the victim's right to carry on with a life free from fear and abuse is being protected?

Laws exist to provide penalties. That's true. But, herein as well you're being obtuse and unbelievable shallow. If people would not break laws; why would we need penalties? Laws exist because people will break them, and the penalty for doing so IS the deterrence. Go ask any lawyer in your firm.

Doc, stop trying to make your viability argument on misrepresentations of what others have said, especially when you're trying to argue MY view on the subject.

You're still hanging your viability argument on the word "albeit."

Albeit = although. The very core for the use of "although," is keeping the end result intact.

Examples:

"Although I've been to the beach countless times, I still get exponentially excited about going."

"I still need to set my GPS to go to my favorite restaurant, although I was there three times in the last 6 months."

Does it matter how often I've been to the beach, when the point of emphasis is that I am excited about going every single time, or how many times I've been to my favorite restaurant when the point of emphasis is that I need to set my GPS every time? Of course not.

Same applies to viability. The core of viability is self survival out of the womb.

My position has always been, and will always be the same. A fetus is viable if it possesses a 50% chance, or greater, of survival outside the womb. This means that it can, at minimum, make the O2/CO2 exchange at least at 50% ratio. That it may be placed on life support as a means to ensure the remaining 50% ability is achieved, is irrelevant to the core concept of viability. If a fetus is only able to make the O2/CO2 exchange at a 40% ratio, no amount of medical assistance will prevent its demise. So doctors are, more likely than not, to not even try.

Now, if you still want to debate my point with me, please stick to debating my point and not everyone else's. Ok

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#274903 Jan 7, 2013
Doc Degall wrote:
<quoted text>By the way here's another gem.....this one from Bitter. This one actually makes tinky's look intelligent :

"It's not separate until it is. At birth. If it's viable, or at least developed enough for medical intervention to keep it alive until it IS viable, then it continues to live. Before a certain point, it ISN'T viable, and no medical intervention will help. That point is sometime after 21 weeks, though it is rarely that early. 98.7% of all abortions occur BEFORE that point anyway."

If you don't see the problem with this one then the hurdles we need to clear here go beyond reading comprehension problems.
Doc, why are you trying to validate your opinion with the correct opinion of other people?

There's nothing wrong with Bitner's statement. Unless, of course, you think that if technology is able to accurately measure a fetus' chance of survival outside the womb at 49%, a competent doctor will not administer medical assistance, in an abundance of caution.

The only disagreement, albeit extremely slight (there's that albeit/although example again) that I could possibly have, I've stated it, and in hindsight, I really can't say I disagree much with it.

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#274904 Jan 7, 2013
Gtown71 wrote:
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Being "Happy " has very little to do with peace and joy.
Many confuse the two, just like love and sex.
It grieves me to here how many don't believe in the one true God, and you are right about how people worsgip different gods, but they cannot all be right.
Few be that find the truth.
Crissy Moran (a former porn star) found the truth.
Lead guitar player from a band called (korn) found the truth.
Gtown 71 (John) found the truth.
Any who look may find the truth.
Honey, before you try making up your own little homilies of wisdom, you need to have some wisdom. What you write are nuggets of bulls*t. Your uncontrolled need to beat your beliefs over the heads of others is a sign of your need to constantly convince yourself of what you want to believe. You try too hard. Relax, buddy.

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#274905 Jan 7, 2013
Conservative Democrat wrote:
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The same ones that are in the constitution Inky. Or is it that you think the Constitution grants any rights?
Read carefully: The Constitution limits government. It does not grant rights; it recognizes the rights we already have. If the rights you thin are rights are not expressly stated in the constitution, then you'll look at the 9th Amendment, and at case law to determine whether what you think is a right, is a right.
The right to have an abortion is a right, and it's protected by the constitution.
Well said. Ink won't get it.

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#274906 Jan 7, 2013
Gtown71 wrote:
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Yes, and that is also the reason Jonathon had a child, with a woman, becouse he to was gay. Lol
Plus, the biggest downfall for David was after he lusted after Bathsheba not Bob.:)
Plus he tried to cover it up, by bringing her husband home, and throwing him a party, before sending him to his wife. Yet Uriah had more chivalry then most, and did not go home to his wife. So David got him drunk, in the hopes that he would then go home, which again he did not. I geuss you also think uriah was gay and just wanted to stay with david. Lol
I geuss, that is why david had uriah go back to the front line to be killed, so as to cover up the affair he has with uriah?
Just becouse you are gay, don't mean everyone is. There have always been gay people, but very few compared to all others.
Whether or not you believe the bible was inspired by God, it still is plain to see, that David was anything but gay.
Maybe he was. Gay men are capable of having hetero sex, silly. Lots of men were are bisexual back then, anyway What's the big deal?

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#274907 Jan 7, 2013
godless by choice wrote:
gtown
I'm not sure what you call the bible?
i call it another book of fiction,
Yep, me, too.
Gtown71

United States

#274908 Jan 7, 2013
elise in burque wrote:
<quoted text>Honey, before you try making up your own little homilies of wisdom, you need to have some wisdom. What you write are nuggets of bulls*t. Your uncontrolled need to beat your beliefs over the heads of others is a sign of your need to constantly convince yourself of what you want to believe. You try too hard. Relax, buddy.
Ok, I'll try and "relax ".
You know the bible says, that the fear of the Lord, is the begining of wisdom.
I do feel an urgency to tell others about how to be saved. Once I went to different stores each week to carry health and beauty aids. I met a young man, about 20 years old. I helped him fix his car, on his break. He was the quite type, and kept to himself, but liked me, after I fixed his car. I thought I would just "relax ",and mabey the next week tell him about what Jesus did for him. I was alittle excited, as I arrived at the store. That's when I learned, that his cousin has just been released from prison a few days earlier. His cousin went to see him, and asked him for money. The young man wouldn't give him any, so He attacked him, and cut his throat.
So, with that being said, I will try and relax as much as I can. Knowing what I know.

Are you not atleast glad, that most "christians " are not like me? You could work with some for years, and never know it.

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#274909 Jan 7, 2013
Gtown71 wrote:
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Ok, I'll try and "relax ".
You know the bible says, that the fear of the Lord, is the begining of wisdom.
I do feel an urgency to tell others about how to be saved. Once I went to different stores each week to carry health and beauty aids. I met a young man, about 20 years old. I helped him fix his car, on his break. He was the quite type, and kept to himself, but liked me, after I fixed his car. I thought I would just "relax ",and mabey the next week tell him about what Jesus did for him. I was alittle excited, as I have arrived at the store. That's when I learned, that his cousin has just been released from prison a few days earlier. His cousin went to see him, and asked him for money. The young man wouldn't give him any, so He attacked him, and cut his throat.
So, with that being said, I will try and relax as much as I can. Knowing what I know.
Are you not atleast glad, that most "christians " are not like me? You could work with some for years, and never know it.
You are a pretty run-of-the-mill Christian. And your story is maudlin crapola.
HuskerDu

United States

#274910 Jan 7, 2013

Since: Sep 08

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#274912 Jan 7, 2013
Gtown71 wrote:
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Well again, God never made Hell for humans.
I geuss if I didn't believe in Hell, then I would never tell anyone about God.
What would be the point.
THe point would be helping others that WANT to learn about your faith to learn, and to learn more about it yourself in the process. I dont believe in your hell, its simply not in the Jewish consciousness, yet I dont mind speaking about my faith.

But I guess that's the difference. YOU want to convert people to your version of faith, while I simply want to have good discussions. YOU can't seem to conceive that others have just as valid views of their faith and their G-d as your views are, but those views are PERSONAL views. Who and what G-d is to everyone is NEVER going to be uniform, nor should it be.
This world is not getting better, it is getting worse.
Well that's one view.

I dont see the world that way. In fact, I view it as the opposite, its getting better than it ever was in SO many ways. People only tend to FOCUS on the negative. What's so good and beautiful gets lost in people's agendas.
I would love to give you the answer you want to hear,
See, thats the thing, there's not an answer I "WANT" to hear, I asked you a question and you gave me an honest answer, and that's cool.

I simply wish you'd learn to lean more toward conversation, rather than lecturing about your views that leave NO room for conversation.

When it comes to people's faith, its simply not your way or the highway. G-d created ALL of us, and KNEW there would be many ways to faith and to Him, and I truly believe he's just fine with that. To take a view that says "do things THIS way or you go to hell", and to refuse to acknoweldge that there are religions and faiths that have been around a hell of a lot longer than Christianity, is just ridiculous to people that dont believe in hell OR your diety - and its an exercise in futility.

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#274913 Jan 7, 2013
Gtown71 wrote:
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Being "Happy " has very little to do with peace and joy.
Many confuse the two, just like love and sex.
Actually, by the definitions of peace and joy, espeically joy - being "happy" would be a natural consequence of the two.
It grieves me to here how many don't believe in the one true God,
Some of us do. We just dont believe its your Jesus. If I thought you actually wanted to learn something new, I'd show you why the Jewish faith rejects the claims of jesus as Messiah, but I truly dont think you are at a point where you can handle questioning your own views by reading how another faith believes. And I mean no disrespect by that.
and you are right about how people worsgip different gods, but they cannot all be right.
Says who?

Who are YOU to say that how people come to what THEY believe in as G-d in their hearts and souls are wrong?

G-d as a diety has been many things to many people and if THEY are sold in their faith, who are you to tell them they're wrong?
Crissy Moran (a former porn star) found the truth.
Lead guitar player from a band called (korn) found the truth.
Gtown 71 (John) found the truth.
Any who look may find the truth.
I found the truth, and the truth isn't your version of g-d.

"TRUTH" is subjective.
HuskerDu

United States

#274914 Jan 7, 2013
elise in burque wrote:
<quoted text>Maybe he was. Gay men are capable of having hetero sex, silly. Lots of men were are bisexual back then, anyway What's the big deal?
So, you are saying its a *choice* Christians knew that all along. No one is born *that* way, heh?

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#274915 Jan 7, 2013
Gtown71 wrote:
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You say you are of the Jewish faith?
All examples I used, is from the 10 commandments.
There shall have no other gods, before the one true God is one of them.
And Jesus isn't a g-d BY those commandments.

The COmmandments were given to the Jewish people, and Jesus has NO place in that history. That's a fact too.

The Commandments also say that one should not worship any graven images, yet all around us are pictures of your jesus, which goes DIRECTLY against that commandment.
So there goes the theory that people may serve any or difderent gods.
Who says that at the end of the day, the G-d everyone believes in ISN'T the same diety, they just come to him in different ways and view him from the persepective of their faiths?
Jesus came, not to do away with the law, but to fulfill the law.
He is the only one to ever live who kept the whole law.
Those "in christ ",have "imputed rightousness ".
Nonsense. Jesus didn't fullfill the requirements for Messiah. Not even a little bit. Are you willing to know why with an open mind?

And he (and the christian faith) certainly does NOT keep the "whole law". In fact, there's 613 Commandments or laws- but Christianity did away with all but the main 10 that everyone knows (and often misquotes).

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#274916 Jan 7, 2013
Junket wrote:
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Puddles! Celibacy does not seem to agree with you - perhaps you should consider entering the priesthood.
;-p
ROFLMAO!!!!! Love you Junket!!

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#274917 Jan 7, 2013
Gtown71 wrote:
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I waa paraphrasing, but thinks for being on point at that one thing at least, but since you are the only one who says hell is not in the bible,I'm not sure what you call the bible?
He's not the only one. "Hell" is NOT in the bible. At least not in the Jewish Tanakh.

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#274918 Jan 7, 2013
cpeter1313 wrote:
I discuss the bible as a work of fiction, not as a holy text.
Your story sounds much more like an ex-partner taking care of his lover's kid. And of course david married; all men did. It didn't make him straight; such men virtually all had same-sex lovers on the side. As a king, he had a duty to provide another generation of royalty. He might also have been bi. But saying he and jonathan were just friends is total denial of the story.
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And lets not forget Song of Solomon, Ruth and Naomi.

"Where you go I will go, and where you stay I will stay. Your people will be my people and your God my God. Where you die I will die, and there I will be buried. May the Lord deal with me, be it ever so severely, if anything but death separates you and me."

Ruth 1:14, referring to the relationship between Ruth and Naomi, mentions that "Ruth clave onto her." (KJV) The Hebrew word translated here as "clave" is identical to that used in the description of a heterosexual marriage in Genesis 2:24:

"Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh."
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