Abortions They're a Good Thing!

[shovelhead72]

Forum Cruiser wrote:

Abortion a "good thing" kind of like a hobby or vocation??!! Who could seriously ask such a question?

There's this literary concept called 'sarcasm' now. You might have heard of it, but somehow I think you missed your High School English Lit class due to your fascination with a bong. Next.

[jlmiller]

Emelsu wrote:

<quoted text>Because she decided to KILL her baby because she had sex and got pregnant because of what she did. Even though the baby isnt born yet doesnt mean they deserve to be MURDERED. Also why do you think when some one kills a pregnant women that the person gets introuble for 2 murders.

Um Emeslu...drama much? Abortion does NOT kill babies. Killing babies is illegal. Abortion is legal...see the difference?

[Emelsu]

jlmiller wrote:

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Um Emeslu...drama much? Abortion does NOT kill babies. Killing babies is illegal. Abortion is legal...see the difference?

why do you think a lot of people want it to be illegal? duh. and yeah if there is a living baby that gets its life taken away that is killing it. and don't even try that dumb crap like "well it's not a baby it's a fetus"

[shovelhead72]

Emelsu wrote:

<quoted text>why do you think a lot of people want it to be illegal? duh. and yeah if there is a living baby that gets its life taken away that is killing it. and don't even try that dumb crap like "well it's not a baby it's a fetus"

A lot of people want it illegal because they hate the fact that women have rights in the first place. A lot of people want to be able to grab power by fiat; many see this as an avenue to power and control over a woman's body, and will hitch their wagon to any star which promises same. A lot of people (mostly men, sad to say) are trying DESPERATELY to regain some sort of control over women, as they have never been able to control themselves. This list could run long, and I don't care to spend the next hour on this post. And don't try that dumb crap like "Well, I'll never be pregnant, but I have some sort of say in the personal reproductive decisions of everyone in the country who could."

[LawDawgg666]

<<Abortion IS murder no matter what you think >>

Care to cite any state or federal statute that says legal abortion is "murder?"

[LawDawgg666]

<<Also why do you think when some one kills a pregnant women that the person gets in trouble for 2 murders. >>

Because only the woman has the right to abort her own fetus.

Killing the gravid woman = homicide

Killing the fetus = fetal homicide

and only in states with fetal homicide laws...

and then, only if the fetus is viable in certain states.

Some states have no fetal homicide laws at all...

[CarolineWeber666]

<<Abortion a "good thing" kind of like a hobby or vocation??!! Who could seriously ask such a question? >>

I know, I know, I've heard all the arguments: Abortion stops a beating heart. It's a child, not a choice. Every life is precious. Well, I don't care what the pro-lifers say... I am totally psyched for this abortion!

Like I said, my decision to terminate my pregnancy isn't for lack of hearing the opposing view. I'm exposed to pro-life messages all the time—on billboards, in magazines and on television. And I certainly didn't miss that angry crowd of picketers shouting at me as I was happily skipping to the women's health clinic to make the appointment for my big day. Those pro-life activists made it pretty clear that, unlike me, they actually think abortion is bad and to be avoided. Are they nuts? Abortion is the best!

As I pushed my way through the crowd, one of the picketers yelled, "How could you do this? How could you kill a child?"

What?

It's more like, "How could I wait this long?" It wasn't until now that I was lucky enough to be pregnant with a child I had no means to support. I tell you, for a long time, I thought it would never happen to me!

So, to all of you pro-lifers who are trying to rain on my parade, keep it to yourself, because I don't have the time for that kind of negativity. I've got an abortion to plan, and I just know it's going to be the best non-anesthetized invasive uterine surgery ever!

The funny thing is, I actually have the pro-life movement to thank for this opportunity. If my HMO wouldn't have bowed to their pressure not to cover oral contraceptives, I never would've gotten pregnant in the first place. Then what would I be doing a week from Thursday? I'll tell you what I wouldn't be doing: going to an awesome abortion clinic where I'll be the center of attention from the minute I put my feet up in those stirrups. I wouldn't be looking forward to induced dilation of my cervical opening and suctioning of my uterus, either. And I sure as heck wouldn't get the chance to have a doctor insert a metal instrument into my womb to dislodge tissue from my uterine wall!

I seriously cannot wait for all the hemorrhaging and the uterine contractions. This abortion is going to be so amazing. I'm definitely taking lots of pictures so I can remember every last detail of the whole experience for years to come and share my great memories with all of my friends, family and co-workers. What an easy decision this was!

I realize there are people who will criticize me, calling me selfish and immature because I took "the easy way out." I realize there are those who will condemn me to hell for what I'm about to do. Well, I don't care what they say: It's worth it for all the fun and laughs I'm going to have at the clinic. So listen up, world: I'm pro-abortion... and I love it! See you at my post-abortion party, everybody

[shovelhead72]

Dear god,
Please grant me the opportunity to absolve myself of any future responsibility for my actions, as you and you alone are henceforth the orchestrator of my universe. As such I revere any prohibition, prescribed by you, as the only source of relevant information, because my parents taught me to behave in this manner, and I have no opinions of my own. Thank you for allowing me to take "the easy way out."

Dear Topix,
I truly enjoy speaking on abortion forums, because, for the first time in my life, I am supported by people who agree with me on any topic whatsofingever. Never mind that they are complete idiots, ignorant of the tenets of the Constitution; suddenly, others are paying attention to what I have to say, and by golly, I LIKE it.

Dear God,
I have yet to think through my position on abortion, because I have never wanted to abort. This stance entitles me to butt into other people's business, restrict the rights of women, and claim the 'moral' high ground with fundamentalists having the most hypocritical viewpoints in the political scene. You promised me this according to my interpretation of the Bible. Hey, I can be popular without even trying on the internet. WHAT A GAS! Thanks, God.

See you at my post-evolution party, everybody.

[jlmiller]

Emelsu wrote:

<quoted text>why do you think a lot of people want it to be illegal? duh. and yeah if there is a living baby that gets its life taken away that is killing it. and don't even try that dumb crap like "well it's not a baby it's a fetus"

"Dumb crap"...how old are you? Guess what Emelsu...go take some basic biology...it is not a baby...it is a embryo/zygote/fetus...but alas, not a baby. And as I said before oh slow one...killing babies is illegal, if you see someone killing a baby you should call the proper authorities. A lot of people want abortion banned because they feel a sick need to control and would prefer if women were not able to make their own medical decisions. You are a true moron if you believe these anti choicers want abortion illegal because of some deep felt need to "save" something. In the end...it is all about control.

[jlmiller]

shovelhead72 wrote:

Dear god,
Please grant me the opportunity to absolve myself of any future responsibility for my actions, as you and you alone are henceforth the orchestrator of my universe. As such I revere any prohibition, prescribed by you, as the only source of relevant information, because my parents taught me to behave in this manner, and I have no opinions of my own. Thank you for allowing me to take "the easy way out."
Dear Topix,
I truly enjoy speaking on abortion forums, because, for the first time in my life, I am supported by people who agree with me on any topic whatsofingever. Never mind that they are complete idiots, ignorant of the tenets of the Constitution; suddenly, others are paying attention to what I have to say, and by golly, I LIKE it.
Dear God,
I have yet to think through my position on abortion, because I have never wanted to abort. This stance entitles me to butt into other people's business, restrict the rights of women, and claim the 'moral' high ground with fundamentalists having the most hypocritical viewpoints in the political scene. You promised me this according to my interpretation of the Bible. Hey, I can be popular without even trying on the internet. WHAT A GAS! Thanks, God.
See you at my post-evolution party, everybody.

LOL...Perfect!

[shovelhead72]

jlmiller wrote:

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LOL...Perfect!

Thanks. It was fun, too. goodnight,and sweet dreams to all.

[Emelsu]

shovelhead72 wrote:

<quoted text>A lot of people want it illegal because they hate the fact that women have rights in the first place. A lot of people want to be able to grab power by fiat; many see this as an avenue to power and control over a woman's body, and will hitch their wagon to any star which promises same. A lot of people (mostly men, sad to say) are trying DESPERATELY to regain some sort of control over women, as they have never been able to control themselves. This list could run long, and I don't care to spend the next hour on this post. And don't try that dumb crap like "Well, I'll never be pregnant, but I have some sort of say in the personal reproductive decisions of everyone in the country who could."

haha wow, I know tons of women that are against abortions so your little idea of men trying to make them illegal because they don't want women to have any rights is just very strange...seriously do you hear yourself speak? who in the world wants abortions to be illegal just so women wont have as many rights? it has nothing to do with that at all, it's the fact that they are taking away a human life.

[Emelsu]

jlmiller wrote:

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"Dumb crap"...how old are you? Guess what Emelsu...go take some basic biology...it is not a baby...it is a embryo/zygote/fetus...but alas, not a baby. And as I said before oh slow one...killing babies is illegal, if you see someone killing a baby you should call the proper authorities. A lot of people want abortion banned because they feel a sick need to control and would prefer if women were not able to make their own medical decisions. You are a true moron if you believe these anti choicers want abortion illegal because of some deep felt need to "save" something. In the end...it is all about control.

"oh slow one" and you ask me how old I am...so what a toddler isn't a human now, neither is a teenager, neither is an adult? really just because they go through stages in their life they arent humans anymore? wow I guess I never learned that so nothing is human as long as it can be called something different at different stages of its life...so it is a "sick need" also to tell someone to follow the law because how is that any of your business or if they do something to hurt you it is a "sick need" to tell them to stop because it was there personal choice to hurt you? it's a "personal choice" that person has chosen to do anything at anytime in their life so how dare you have a "sick need" to want anyone to do anything, like oh I don't know think abortion is ok, isn't that a personal choice weather or not you are for it?

[shovelhead72]

Emelsu wrote:

<quoted text>haha wow, I know tons of women that are against abortions so your little idea of men trying to make them illegal because they don't want women to have any rights is just very strange...seriously do you hear yourself speak? who in the world wants abortions to be illegal just so women wont have as many rights? it has nothing to do with that at all, it's the fact that they are taking away a human life.

First off, I may or may not have been talking to you; I don't know you, but if you do not fit the description I gave above, then the shoe doesn't fit. Good for you, but that doesn't mean my assertion was incorrect. And I never said there weren't women against abortion. MOST women are against abortion, on a personal level. They do not abort. Good for them. But never presume to tell me that "it has nothing to do with that at all, it's the fact that they are taking away a human life." Maybe to you personally, that is the case. You are not alone. But again, if you disagree with abortion, it is your inalienable right not to have one. It is not and never will be your right to convert your religious tenets into the laws of the POTUS.

[jlmiller]

Emelsu wrote:

<quoted text>"oh slow one" and you ask me how old I am...so what a toddler isn't a human now, neither is a teenager, neither is an adult? really just because they go through stages in their life they arent humans anymore? wow I guess I never learned that so nothing is human as long as it can be called something different at different stages of its life...so it is a "sick need" also to tell someone to follow the law because how is that any of your business or if they do something to hurt you it is a "sick need" to tell them to stop because it was there personal choice to hurt you? it's a "personal choice" that person has chosen to do anything at anytime in their life so how dare you have a "sick need" to want anyone to do anything, like oh I don't know think abortion is ok, isn't that a personal choice weather or not you are for it?

How about you not post to me unless you can comprehend what I have posted. Either you really are slow or you are just being obtuse...either way, I prefer not to deal with it.

Where did I every say a fetus was not human? I want one quote from be...by you...showing I have said a fetus is not human. Obviously if it has two human DNA donors, the outcome is going to be human. I said, there is no right to birth. Big difference.

Abortion is not illegal. Don't spout following the law to me concerning this topic. Those who wish abortion banned wish so because of a sick need to control other people. See, if it is in my body it is my choice whether or not to allow it to stay. My body...my choice. Not only should you take some basic biology you should read some basic law books. I...just as any BORN person, am protected by the Constitution and the laws of the land, which means nobody can harm me, put their hands on me, spit on me, kill me or any such other thing, without repercussions. These protections are granted to BORN persons, not those in utero.

[MUIM]

abortionHATER wrote:

hey highschool rose, guess what, maybe you shouldn't of jumped on top of a penis in the 12th grade, ever thought of that? girls now a days are so slutty, and they say abortion is their "choice." well, having sex was a choice too. I think the only way abortion is even half way ok, is if it's a rape victim having it. You know that great people come out of crappy homes, yeah you would've suffered, but it would've been the price to pay for having unprotected sex, especially in 12th grade. What ever happened to abstinence? Sex AFTER marriage? What is wrong with the world?

So abortion is kind of ok when its a rape victim??? I dont get it wouldnt it still be a fetus that would be killed? Why is that fetus less important? It wasn't the rapest.

Having abortions legal only in the case of rape would never work. What is going to stop a girl who wants an abortion from claiming rape? Who is actually going to believe REAL rape victims when they say they are raped? Maybe they're just saying it because they want an abortion.

How do you know the sex was unprotected? Were you there? No birth control is 100% effective

Sex is a healthy natural act and you have no business poking your nose into other peoples bedrooms.

Abortion is legal because it should be, everyone should be given the choice of what happens to their own body.

[shovelhead72]

MUIM wrote:

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So abortion is kind of ok when its a rape victim??? I dont get it wouldnt it still be a fetus that would be killed? Why is that fetus less important? It wasn't the rapest.
Having abortions legal only in the case of rape would never work. What is going to stop a girl who wants an abortion from claiming rape? Who is actually going to believe REAL rape victims when they say they are raped? Maybe they're just saying it because they want an abortion.
How do you know the sex was unprotected? Were you there? No birth control is 100% effective
Sex is a healthy natural act and you have no business poking your nose into other peoples bedrooms.
Abortion is legal because it should be, everyone should be given the choice of what happens to their own body.

Thank-you for an eloquent post.

[Forum Cruiser]

shovelhead72 wrote:

<quoted text> There's this literary concept called 'sarcasm' now. You might have heard of it, but somehow I think you missed your High School English Lit class due to your fascination with a bong. Next.

Uh huh...did you notice I was being sarcastic with my response??!!

[shovelhead72]

Forum Cruiser wrote:

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Uh huh...did you notice I was being sarcastic with my response??!!

Um, no. "Who would ever say abortion was a good thing?" was your post to which I was replying, and I don't think you were being sarcastic; just ignorant. I know of no one who thinks it's a "good thing," but it is a necessary evil, if you will, as opposed to abandoning, abusing or neglecting your born child. My opinion.

[AmandaS07]

I believe that if you are a victim of rape and as a result got pregnant than you should not be force to carry that child as a constant reminder of your rape experience for nine months and abortion should be legal in this case. However, if you can physically, mentally and can afford to take care of the child then you need to take responsibility for your actions and take care of the child. Yes, Adoption is available for those who want children but on the other hand you can't always know that that child will go to a good home and live a good life. I believe that abortion should have stipulations not just used as a way out because you don't want to take care of the infant.