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Post-Planned Parenthood debacle, Komen cancels 7 races

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Demystifying liberal myth

Minneapolis, MN

#1 Jun 8, 2013
[ Getting in bed with Planned Barrenhood is like checking into the Hotel California. You can check out anytime you like, but you can never leave.]

Hard times a-Komen: Race for the Cure canceled in seven cities after Planned Parenthood controversy

BY BEN JOHNSON
Wed Jun 05, 2013

http://www.lifesitenews.com/news/hard-times-a...

DALLAS, June 5, 2013 ( LifeSiteNews.com )– The Susan G. Komen for the Cure Foundation has announced it is cutting half of its three-day races due to poor response, a situation that a Komen spokeswoman blamed in part on the controversy over the charity's decision last year to stop, and then renew funding to Planned Parenthood.

The cities where no one will run for a cure are Boston; Chicago; Cleveland; Phoenix; San Francisco; Tampa Bay; and Washington, D.C.

Last year, the Komen Foundation briefly opted to withholdmore than half-a-million dollars in annual funding from the nation's leading abortion provider on the grounds thatPlanned Parenthood does not perform mammograms. It simply refers patients to those who do, collecting a fee in the process.

Komen donations doubled in the days after cutting ties with Planned Parenthood [ http://www.lifesitenews.com/news/komen-donati... ]. But after a well-orchestrated backlash [ read, mugging ] that dominated national headlines for days, Komen CEO Nancy Brinker relented and restored funding before stepping down from her leadership role.

The betrayal led pro-life advocates to call for a boycott.

According to Komen, participation in the races has declined 37% over the past three years. However, Komen spokeswoman Andrea Rader told USA Today that the decline was a "little more dramatic" following the Planned Parenthood flap.

"There are some folks who will never be back and we know that, and we hope that they will support breast cancer charities because the work's important," she said.

Morgana 9

“And the Horse You Rode in On”

Since: Sep 08

Minneapolis

#2 Jun 8, 2013
A brutal farce in El Salvador highlights a regional failing
Jun 8th 2013 |From the print edition

Get your rosaries out of our ovaries
BY ITS fifth month, Beatriz’s pregnancy had become dangerously complicated. Scans showed that the fetus was developing without parts of its brain and skull and would not survive more than a few hours outside the womb. Beatriz (not her real name) was suffering from kidney problems and lupus, an autoimmune disease, which had become so acute that her doctors said she risked death too. With the backing of El Salvador’s health ministry, she decided to terminate the pregnancy.

Not so fast, said the Supreme Court, ruling on May 29th that the constitution’s protection of all citizens “from the moment of conception” meant that abortion could not be permitted in any circumstances. Hours later, the Inter-American Court of Human Rights ordered that the government should give Beatriz’s doctors access “without interference” to whatever measures were necessary to save her life.

A compromise was reached: rather than have an abortion, Beatriz could undergo a premature caesarean section. Since she was already past 20 weeks of pregnancy, the operation could be considered an “induced birth”, not an abortion, the health ministry said. This seemed to satisfy the courts. On June 3rd the baby was delivered, and died a few hours later. Beatriz was in intensive care as The Economist went to press.

This sorry story and its face-saving solution is typical of the ineffective abortion regime present in most of Latin America. At the urging of the Catholic church, abortion is banned under all circumstances—including rape, and where the mother faces death—in Chile, the Dominican Republic, Haiti, Honduras, Nicaragua and Suriname, as well as in El Salvador. In most other countries it is highly restricted. Only Cuba, Guyana, Puerto Rico and Uruguay offer abortion on demand (so does Mexico City, unlike the rest of Mexico).

Lets MAKE SAURE TO READ THIS AGAIN:
At the urging of the Catholic church, abortion is banned under all circumstances—including rape, and where the mother faces death—in Chile, the Dominican Republic, Haiti, Honduras, Nicaragua and Suriname, as well as in El Salvador

WHERE THE MOTHER FACES DEATH......straight from the misogynistic woman hating CATHOLIC CHURCH AND THE BOYS WHO RULE IT!!!!

http://www.economist.com/news/americas/215790... |ame

“ABORTION KILLS A HUMAN BEING”

Since: Jul 10

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#3 Jun 11, 2013
Demystifying liberal myth wrote:
[ Getting in bed with Planned Barrenhood is like checking into the Hotel California. You can check out anytime you like, but you can never leave.]
Hard times a-Komen: Race for the Cure canceled in seven cities after Planned Parenthood controversy
BY BEN JOHNSON
Wed Jun 05, 2013
http://www.lifesitenews.com/news/hard-times-a...
DALLAS, June 5, 2013 ( LifeSiteNews.com )– The Susan G. Komen for the Cure Foundation has announced it is cutting half of its three-day races due to poor response, a situation that a Komen spokeswoman blamed in part on the controversy over the charity's decision last year to stop, and then renew funding to Planned Parenthood.
The cities where no one will run for a cure are Boston; Chicago; Cleveland; Phoenix; San Francisco; Tampa Bay; and Washington, D.C.
Last year, the Komen Foundation briefly opted to withholdmore than half-a-million dollars in annual funding from the nation's leading abortion provider on the grounds thatPlanned Parenthood does not perform mammograms. It simply refers patients to those who do, collecting a fee in the process.
Komen donations doubled in the days after cutting ties with Planned Parenthood [

http://www.lifesitenews.com/news/komen-donati... ]. But after a well-orchestrated backlash [ read, mugging ] that dominated national headlines for days, Komen CEO Nancy Brinker relented and restored funding before stepping down from her leadership role.
The betrayal led pro-life advocates to call for a boycott.
According to Komen, participation in the races has declined 37% over the past three years. However, Komen spokeswoman Andrea Rader told USA Today that the decline was a "little more dramatic" following the Planned Parenthood flap.
"There are some folks who will never be back and we know that, and we hope that they will support breast cancer charities because the work's important," she said.
Luckily I live in a suburb of Cleveland, and there will be no race here! Support of breast cancer is extremely important, but not through Komen. We can donate through many other organizations who DO NOT fund planned abortionhood. I hope the Koman corrupt charity goes down the drain at some point.
Demystifying liberal myth

Minneapolis, MN

#4 Jun 12, 2013
kaylayossi wrote:
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Luckily I live in a suburb of Cleveland, and there will be no race here! Support of breast cancer is extremely important, but not through Komen. We can donate through many other organizations who DO NOT fund planned abortionhood. I hope the Koman corrupt charity goes down the drain at some point.
Presiding over a tanking charity, Komen CEO Karen Brinker is still making money hand over fist, however.

[KREM-TV Spokane Washington] "...But 10 months later, Brinker still holds her position and tax documents reveal that she received a 64 percent raise and now makes $684,000 a year, according to the charity’s latest available tax filing. Komen says the raise came in November 2010, prior to last year’s controversy.

Ken Berger, president and CEO of Charity Navigator, which evaluates and rates charities, called Brinker’s salary “extremely high.”

“This pay package is way outside the norm," he said. "It's about a quarter of a million dollars more than what we see for charities of this size.... This is more than the head of the Red Cross is making for an organization that is one-tenth the size of the Red Cross.”

The American Red Cross had revenue of about $3.4 billion, while Komen’s was about $340 million last year. Red Cross CEO Gail McGovern makes $500,000, according to the most recent financial documents available for the charity....

Morgana 9

“And the Horse You Rode in On”

Since: Sep 08

Minneapolis

#5 Jun 12, 2013
Demystifying liberal myth wrote:
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Presiding over a tanking charity, Komen CEO Karen Brinker is still making money hand over fist, however.
Speaking of hand over fist:
The Economist Estimates the Catholic Church Spent $171,600,000,000 in 2010
August 17, 2012 By Hemant Mehta 91 Comments
The Economist has attempted to paint a picture of what the Catholic Church’s finances look like, especially in light of the sexual abuse scandals. I’ll admit it. I may have salivated a bit at this paragraph:
By studying court documents in bankruptcy cases, examining public records, requesting documents from local, state and federal governments, as well as talking to priests and bishops confidentially, The Economist has sought to quantify the damage.
They estimate that the church spends about $171,600,000,000 a year. Not a typo.
The Economist estimates that annual spending by the church and entities owned by the church was around $170 billion in 2010 (the church does not release such figures). We think 57% of this goes on health-care networks, followed by 28% on colleges, with parish and diocesan day-to-day operations accounting for just 6% and national charitable activities just 2.7%(see chart). In total, Catholic institutions employ over 1m people, reckons Fred Gluck, a former McKinsey managing partner and co-founder of the National Leadership Roundtable on Church Management, a lay organisation seeking to improve the way the church is run. For purposes of secular comparison, in 2010 General Electric’s revenue was $150 billion and Walmart employed roughly 2m people.
Wow. You knew the Church had money… but that much?!

http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/...
Katie

Maple Valley, WA

#6 Jun 12, 2013
Morgana 9 wrote:
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Speaking of hand over fist:
The Economist Estimates the Catholic Church Spent $171,600,000,000 in 2010
August 17, 2012 By Hemant Mehta 91 Comments
The Economist has attempted to paint a picture of what the Catholic Church’s finances look like, especially in light of the sexual abuse scandals. I’ll admit it. I may have salivated a bit at this paragraph:
By studying court documents in bankruptcy cases, examining public records, requesting documents from local, state and federal governments, as well as talking to priests and bishops confidentially, The Economist has sought to quantify the damage.
They estimate that the church spends about $171,600,000,000 a year. Not a typo.
The Economist estimates that annual spending by the church and entities owned by the church was around $170 billion in 2010 (the church does not release such figures). We think 57% of this goes on health-care networks, followed by 28% on colleges, with parish and diocesan day-to-day operations accounting for just 6% and national charitable activities just 2.7%(see chart). In total, Catholic institutions employ over 1m people, reckons Fred Gluck, a former McKinsey managing partner and co-founder of the National Leadership Roundtable on Church Management, a lay organisation seeking to improve the way the church is run. For purposes of secular comparison, in 2010 General Electric’s revenue was $150 billion and Walmart employed roughly 2m people.
Wow. You knew the Church had money… but that much?!
http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/...
God forbid some woman/girl finds herself with an unwanted/unhealthy pregnancy. While those paternalistic greedy bastards are busy dismantling all the programs to help her raise a child, they're also insisting she have that baby because it's for her own good.

These people don't understand when they read about "the powerful but small group" of those trying to criminalize abortion have the church backing them. The same church with all that money needing somewhere to park itself.

They don't understand the life site article quoted is not telling the entire story. Komen's CEO claimed they were stopping funds from going to PP because of the Republican-backed investigation into PP's funds for abortion. Republicans claim PP isn't keeping their funding for abortion separate from federal funding of other health issues.

And these people don't understand that abortion is just the surface issue to get the church involved with politics, to destroy most programs put in place during the New Deal and an attempt to return this country back to the Gilded Age; before we had a middle class.

These people see an embryo or fetus and are willing to throw away everybody's civil rights including their own. Throw away all the hard work others before us did in order to create protections from the government for all of us. These people don't understand what tools they're being for those claiming to be doing God's work when all they're doing is playing on others' greed and their own.

And they're willing to flush all of our civil rights down the toilet for that root of all evil... money.

Morgana 9

“And the Horse You Rode in On”

Since: Sep 08

Minneapolis

#7 Jun 13, 2013
Katie wrote:
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God forbid some woman/girl finds herself with an unwanted/unhealthy pregnancy. While those paternalistic greedy bastards are busy dismantling all the programs to help her raise a child, they're also insisting she have that baby because it's for her own good.
These people don't understand when they read about "the powerful but small group" of those trying to criminalize abortion have the church backing them. The same church with all that money needing somewhere to park itself.
They don't understand the life site article quoted is not telling the entire story. Komen's CEO claimed they were stopping funds from going to PP because of the Republican-backed investigation into PP's funds for abortion. Republicans claim PP isn't keeping their funding for abortion separate from federal funding of other health issues.
And these people don't understand that abortion is just the surface issue to get the church involved with politics, to destroy most programs put in place during the New Deal and an attempt to return this country back to the Gilded Age; before we had a middle class.
These people see an embryo or fetus and are willing to throw away everybody's civil rights including their own. Throw away all the hard work others before us did in order to create protections from the government for all of us. These people don't understand what tools they're being for those claiming to be doing God's work when all they're doing is playing on others' greed and their own.
And they're willing to flush all of our civil rights down the toilet for that root of all evil... money.
To keep their misogynistic religion alive they need a way to put women back in their biblical place, behind and secondary to men. Controlling womens reproduction is the key. The CC is anti abortion and anti contraceptives which speaks volumes. Encouraging fetus worship is just another way of promoting patriarchy and misogyny. They take great pleasure in guilt tripping and scolding women, they miss the sacrificial days when they could legally burn them at the stake.

Women that follow these demons in robes and pointy hats have little self esteem and zero self respect.
Katie

Maple Valley, WA

#8 Jun 13, 2013
Morgana 9 wrote:
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To keep their misogynistic religion alive they need a way to put women back in their biblical place, behind and secondary to men. Controlling womens reproduction is the key. The CC is anti abortion and anti contraceptives which speaks volumes. Encouraging fetus worship is just another way of promoting patriarchy and misogyny. They take great pleasure in guilt tripping and scolding women, they miss the sacrificial days when they could legally burn them at the stake.
Women that follow these demons in robes and pointy hats have little self esteem and zero self respect.
They won't even realize what tools they've been until they or someone they love is in need of a medical procedure. Then they'll turn around and ask, "What happened?"

“ABORTION KILLS A HUMAN BEING”

Since: Jul 10

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#9 Jun 13, 2013
Katie wrote:
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They won't even realize what tools they've been until they or someone they love is in need of a medical procedure. Then they'll turn around and ask, "What happened?"
I am always amused at how proaborts call the intentional killing of the unborn "A medical procedure".
It's only acceptable in certain circumstances, not for convenience. When it is done purely because the woman would be inconvenienced by a child, it's killing, immoral, and just plain wrong.

“ABORTION KILLS A HUMAN BEING”

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#10 Jun 13, 2013
Oh, and btw, you switching this into a religious discussion is to deflect from the original thread. No one was mentioning religion.

Morgana 9

“And the Horse You Rode in On”

Since: Sep 08

Minneapolis

#11 Jun 13, 2013
kaylayossi wrote:
Oh, and btw, you switching this into a religious discussion is to deflect from the original thread. No one was mentioning religion.
Misogynistic religion fuels this argument. I intend to discuss the misogynistic religious involvement in this issue till I am blue in the face and there is not a damn thing you can do about it. DEAL with it.

“ABORTION KILLS A HUMAN BEING”

Since: Jul 10

Location hidden

#12 Jun 13, 2013
Morgana 9 wrote:
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Misogynistic religion fuels this argument. I intend to discuss the misogynistic religious involvement in this issue till I am blue in the face and there is not a damn thing you can do about it. DEAL with it.
You talk so much you're already blue. Take a hike, or a hiatus. There's a whole world outside, you should take baby steps, and maybe open a window in that trailer. Religion was not a factor in the canceled races. Moment is getting what they deserve for funding planned abortionhood. Stomp your feet and keep turning blue, you are and always will be wrong! Toodles...

“ABORTION KILLS A HUMAN BEING”

Since: Jul 10

Location hidden

#13 Jun 13, 2013
Komen
Katie

Maple Valley, WA

#14 Jun 13, 2013
kaylayossi wrote:
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I am always amused at how proaborts call the intentional killing of the unborn "A medical procedure".
It's only acceptable in certain circumstances, not for convenience. When it is done purely because the woman would be inconvenienced by a child, it's killing, immoral, and just plain wrong.
Abortion is medically defined as pregnancy ending prior to term. That's it.

All your BS is just that. BS.

One day you or a loved one will turn around and ask, "What happened?" Unless it never dawns on you the Religious Right is behind this crusade and its goal is to return America back to the Gilded Age, before there ever was such a thing as the middle class.

You're not smug enough to believe you'd actually be included in the ruling class, are you? You do realize whatever civil rights are lost, these are lost to you, too. Right?

The Religious Right doesn't give a damn about the lost embryos or fetuses. Hell, some of the married ones have sent their girlfriends off to clinics to take care of the unwanted/unhealthy embryo or fetus they created.

The Catholic Priests have sent NUNS off to clinics to have their unwanted/unhealthy pregnancies terminated before term.

Do some research on your own, Kayla. Learn what's really going on before you just hand over your civil rights while stealing others' out from under them.

Morgana 9

“And the Horse You Rode in On”

Since: Sep 08

Minneapolis

#15 Jun 13, 2013
kaylayossi wrote:
<quoted text>
You talk so much you're already blue. Take a hike, or a hiatus. There's a whole world outside, you should take baby steps, and maybe open a window in that trailer. Religion was not a factor in the canceled races. Moment is getting what they deserve for funding planned abortionhood. Stomp your feet and keep turning blue, you are and always will be wrong! Toodles...
And you babble like the religious idiot you are. You take a hike, take another long walk for life off a short bridge and drown it already! Religion is ALWAYS a factor in this debate, don't like me bringing that up do ya? Tough shit Daisy. Stomp your hoof and swing your worn out utters, you are nothing more than a busybody and that is all you will ever be.....poor lonely you.

Morgana 9

“And the Horse You Rode in On”

Since: Sep 08

Minneapolis

#16 Jun 13, 2013
kaylayossi wrote:
Oh, and btw, you switching this into a religious discussion is to deflect from the original thread. No one was mentioning religion.
Oh and btw:

Religious Pro-Life Organizations

AudioGirl Ministries

Priests For Life

Deacons For Life

National Pro-Life Religious Council

ChristianAnswers.net

Presbyterians For Life

Lutherans For Life

Catholic Pro-Life Committee Of Noth Texas

Project Defending Life

United States Congress Of Catholic Bishops

Sisters Of Life

Baptists For Life

40 Days For Life

Knights Of Columbus

Helpers Of God’s Precious Infants

Human Life International

Human Life International - Spanish

Missionaries To The Preborn

Operation Save America

Pro-Life Action Ministries

CatholicCitizens.org

Orthodox Christians For Life

Children Of The Rosary

EWTN Pro-Life Resources

Heavan’s Friends

LEARN

National Committee For A Human Life Amendment

LifeTeen.com - For Catholic Teenagers

Stand True

Vital Signs Ministries

Anglicans For Life

Catholics United For Life

Seminarian Life Link

Laity For Life

Let me know if you would like me to list more...will be happy to drive you even nuttier than you are!
Katie

Maple Valley, WA

#17 Jun 14, 2013
kaylayossi wrote:
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You talk so much you're already blue. Take a hike, or a hiatus. There's a whole world outside, you should take baby steps, and maybe open a window in that trailer. Religion was not a factor in the canceled races. Moment is getting what they deserve for funding planned abortionhood. Stomp your feet and keep turning blue, you are and always will be wrong! Toodles...
Look at you! Throwing Komen under the bus because they realized how foolish it was trying to defund Planned Parenthood.

Don't think for a minute the Republicans behind the investigation of Planned Parenthood weren't backed by some Religious Right organization, girly.

“ABORTION KILLS A HUMAN BEING”

Since: Jul 10

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#18 Jun 14, 2013
Komen belongs under the bus. As for everything else you two said above, it's laughable. Abortion is killing a human. I can't even fathom anyone thinking its an ok thing to do, other than in emergency situations. Carry on, I don't take anything proaborts say seriously.
Katie

Maple Valley, WA

#19 Jun 14, 2013
kaylayossi wrote:
Komen belongs under the bus. As for everything else you two said above, it's laughable. Abortion is killing a human. I can't even fathom anyone thinking its an ok thing to do, other than in emergency situations. Carry on, I don't take anything proaborts say seriously.
Like I said earlier, you won't even realize what a tool you've been until you or someone you love is in need of a medical procedure. Then you'll turn around and ask, "What happened?" Especially following an emergency situation -- like Morgana posted about, happened in Ireland. You remember that sad story?

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