Post-election laments: The GOP's way ...

Post-election laments: The GOP's way forward

There are 13 comments on the The Oregonian story from Nov 8, 2012, titled Post-election laments: The GOP's way forward. In it, The Oregonian reports that:

They lose and immediately the chorus begins. Republicans must change or die. A rump party of white America, it must adapt to evolving demographics or forever be the minority.

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“Proud to be a Wiccan Priest”

Since: Jul 09

Jonesboro AR

#1 Nov 9, 2012
The author of the article proves the point that for many republicans that voted for Mitt Romney. He picked a version of the candidate and disregarded the rest.

The republican party was once about the country. Not just about the arty. No the republican party will implode as it becomes more of a party that will not change.

The democrats once were a party of conservative and in today view down right racist.

What changed?

The country had evolved from the post colonial thinking to a view that was more embracing of the future.

The republican party by contrast started out as more a socialist movement. The party was founded on the idea that the "working man" needed to be better represented. Equality not just in the streets, but in the work place as well. Sounds like the beginning f an early movement of socialist thinking to me.

The more conservative and rich members came in and it became a party of business. As the 20th century dawned the democrats became a more then centrist party. Many of the more old guard conservative racists ran over to the republican party.

Google the KKK and the republican party in the 1920's. Yeah, it was like that.

The democrats have changed with the times and with demographics. The republican party has that same chance of changing as well.

It should take the opportunity not just to see what went wrong. But how to go into the future as a more centrist party. Keeping the idea of a smaller government, but as it means in the 21rst century. Keeping the idea alive that fiscal conservationism is not a bad idea. Just one that needs to be defined in the 21rst century. Not what either meant in the 20 century.

Or the party can skew further to a hard right and continue to lose ground.
3OHA

San Jose, CA

#2 Nov 9, 2012
It's idiocy to claim the Republican Party has lost ground. They received closely the same percentage of votes as they did in 2008. It will only get better as Democrats continue to expand the debt and throw the nation to ravenous Socialist wolves. Socialists are a historical anomaly, losing ground wherever their rotten politic has controlled over the last hundred years. It does not matter, that Democrats for four decades have been able to turn so many people into drug addled, amoral freaks killing their own children and learning to actually believe other's efforts are their own. What matters is business men and women won't stand for the outright robbery Socialists historically plan and actuate. Tough times are coming and all of it can be laid at the feet of Socialist Democrats, their immorality, their amorality and their outrageous assumption they can take without the approval of those actually running the country.

“Proud to be a Wiccan Priest”

Since: Jul 09

Jonesboro AR

#3 Nov 9, 2012
It is fact and a fact that is going to become more apparent to you far right fools in the near future.

You lost ground in woman voters. In the Latino votes. In the younger voters.

The republican party has lost much ground and will lose more if the party dies not wake up and realize the answers of the 20th century are not the answers for this century.

But that is your party. If you want to continue down this failed rabbit hole. So be it. I can only hope that the republican party will on time realize that society has bigger issues than wanting to overturn a settled law. Roe V Wade. that people of the same gender will have the right to marry.

That we are going to have to look for a realistic answer to the illegal alien problem <- note my words.

It will have to be more than building fences and tearing families apart in deportation cases.

That what worked for former President Reagan(d)is no longer the answer. As the economic recovery is starting to happen in spite of all the opposition from the republican/tea party.

So a new day has begun. The question now before the republican party is where do you go now. In the light of failed elections.

Or you can continue reality and continue to fight what is already happening.

“All power to the people.”

Since: Mar 07

San Diego, CA

#4 Nov 9, 2012
3OHA wrote:
It's idiocy to claim the Republican Party has lost ground. They received closely the same percentage of votes as they did in 2008. It will only get better as Democrats continue to expand the debt and throw the nation to ravenous Socialist wolves. Socialists are a historical anomaly, losing ground wherever their rotten politic has controlled over the last hundred years. It does not matter, that Democrats for four decades have been able to turn so many people into drug addled, amoral freaks killing their own children and learning to actually believe other's efforts are their own. What matters is business men and women won't stand for the outright robbery Socialists historically plan and actuate. Tough times are coming and all of it can be laid at the feet of Socialist Democrats, their immorality, their amorality and their outrageous assumption they can take without the approval of those actually running the country.
Keep hope alive. It won't help as old white guys die but you can keep the hope alive.

Morgana 9

“And the Horse You Rode in On”

Since: Sep 08

Minneapolis

#5 Nov 10, 2012
3OHA wrote:
It's idiocy to claim the Republican Party has lost ground. They received closely the same percentage of votes as they did in 2008. It will only get better as Democrats continue to expand the debt and throw the nation to ravenous Socialist wolves. Socialists are a historical anomaly, losing ground wherever their rotten politic has controlled over the last hundred years. It does not matter, that Democrats for four decades have been able to turn so many people into drug addled, amoral freaks killing their own children and learning to actually believe other's efforts are their own. What matters is business men and women won't stand for the outright robbery Socialists historically plan and actuate. Tough times are coming and all of it can be laid at the feet of Socialist Democrats, their immorality, their amorality and their outrageous assumption they can take without the approval of those actually running the country.
Thank you for accepting you loss now and all future losses graciously.

I grow wry of listening to the sobbing and sulking of the backwards entities that refer to themselves as right wing moral conservatives who love to hate. You so rise above that.

Invest heavily in the tissue industry the crying should rise above sea level at any moment.

“Proud to be a Wiccan Priest”

Since: Jul 09

Jonesboro AR

#6 Nov 10, 2012
Morgana 9 wrote:
<quoted text>
Thank you for accepting you loss now and all future losses graciously.
I grow wry of listening to the sobbing and sulking of the backwards entities that refer to themselves as right wing moral conservatives who love to hate. You so rise above that.
Invest heavily in the tissue industry the crying should rise above sea level at any moment.
Judging from the rants from the far right. It is going to be a long hard road to understanding the world around them has changed.

Fortunately, there still might be enough republicans to understand that to remain relevant means to grow with the people. Not keep on trying to use the 19th and 20th centuries answers as though nothing has changed in the world.

Morgana 9

“And the Horse You Rode in On”

Since: Sep 08

Minneapolis

#7 Nov 11, 2012
Kathwynn wrote:
<quoted text>Judging from the rants from the far right. It is going to be a long hard road to understanding the world around them has changed.
Fortunately, there still might be enough republicans to understand that to remain relevant means to grow with the people. Not keep on trying to use the 19th and 20th centuries answers as though nothing has changed in the world.
Somehow they think we have been transported back to the Victorian days!

I went shopping for a bussel and parasol to join in the fun but luckily could not locate either.

I swear some of these people make Anthony Comstock look sane and that is a hard to accomplish!
Ocean56

AOL

#8 Nov 11, 2012
Kathwynn wrote:
The author of the article proves the point that for many republicans that voted for Mitt Romney. He picked a version of the candidate and disregarded the rest.
The republican party was once about the country. Not just about the arty. No the republican party will implode as it becomes more of a party that will not change.
The democrats once were a party of conservative and in today view down right racist.
What changed?
The country had evolved from the post colonial thinking to a view that was more embracing of the future.
The republican party by contrast started out as more a socialist movement. The party was founded on the idea that the "working man" needed to be better represented. Equality not just in the streets, but in the work place as well. Sounds like the beginning f an early movement of socialist thinking to me.
The more conservative and rich members came in and it became a party of business. As the 20th century dawned the democrats became a more then centrist party. Many of the more old guard conservative racists ran over to the republican party.
Google the KKK and the republican party in the 1920's. Yeah, it was like that.
The democrats have changed with the times and with demographics. The republican party has that same chance of changing as well.
It should take the opportunity not just to see what went wrong. But how to go into the future as a more centrist party. Keeping the idea of a smaller government, but as it means in the 21rst century. Keeping the idea alive that fiscal conservationism is not a bad idea. Just one that needs to be defined in the 21rst century. Not what either meant in the 20 century.
Or the party can skew further to a hard right and continue to lose ground.
Agreed, especially with the last statement. President Obama's re-election proved that the majority of the American people DON'T WANT regressive, right-wing extremists in the White House.

If the Republicans refuse to change, if they don't start ignoring extremists like Rush Limbaugh and others like him, they'll keep LOSING elections. I was both delighted and relieved to see them lose this one.

“Proud to be a Wiccan Priest”

Since: Jul 09

Jonesboro AR

#9 Nov 11, 2012
Morgana 9 wrote:
<quoted text>
Somehow they think we have been transported back to the Victorian days!
I went shopping for a bussel and parasol to join in the fun but luckily could not locate either.
I swear some of these people make Anthony Comstock look sane and that is a hard to accomplish!
But many on the far right keep trying to live up to that lunatics ideals. If it were not so stupidly insane. It would be laughable.

“Proud to be a Wiccan Priest”

Since: Jul 09

Jonesboro AR

#10 Nov 11, 2012
Ocean56 wrote:
<quoted text>
Agreed, especially with the last statement. President Obama's re-election proved that the majority of the American people DON'T WANT regressive, right-wing extremists in the White House.
If the Republicans refuse to change, if they don't start ignoring extremists like Rush Limbaugh and others like him, they'll keep LOSING elections. I was both delighted and relieved to see them lose this one.
As was I. Even though I thought Fred Silvers had it right. Still his model is not one hundred percent accurate. So there was room to doubt and question whether he had his numbers lined up properly.

Thankfully in this election not only was he right. He was dead on.

The one thing the numbers do not show was the sentiment that You, I and other Americans have been feeling. The divisive has to come to an end. That the far rights message just does not play any better than the far left.

I think President Obama and the elections won by the democrats around the country should be a wake up call.

Now on to 2014 where if the republican party still does not get it by that election cycle. Will lose yet more ground and voters.
Ocean56

AOL

#11 Nov 12, 2012
Kathwynn wrote:
As was I. Even though I thought Fred Silvers had it right. Still his model is not one hundred percent accurate. So there was room to doubt and question whether he had his numbers lined up properly.
Thankfully in this election not only was he right. He was dead on.
The one thing the numbers do not show was the sentiment that You, I and other Americans have been feeling. The divisive has to come to an end. That the far rights message just does not play any better than the far left.
I think President Obama and the elections won by the democrats around the country should be a wake up call.
Now on to 2014 where if the republican party still does not get it by that election cycle. Will lose yet more ground and voters.
Agreed. I seriously doubt that the republicans will start ignoring the right-wing extremists by 2014. So, I hope we'll start voting the right-wing republican governors like Rick Scott in FL and Scott Walker in WI OUT of office as well.

I hope John Husted, the Secretary of State in OH, is voted OUT of office too. The states don't need right-wing extremists actively SUPPRESSING votes. Personally, I think that deliberate attempts to SUPPRESS voting, as both Rick Scott and John Husted did in Florida and Ohio, is also a form of VOTER FRAUD, and should be declared to be ILLEGAL.

“Proud to be a Wiccan Priest”

Since: Jul 09

Jonesboro AR

#12 Nov 12, 2012
The voter suppression might still be declared illegal. There is a case going in front of a federal court in the near future if I am remembering correctly.

Up in Congress the establishment republicans want to work with the democrats and the White House.

However, the tea party is once more back to saying NO. In the coming weeks we will see who wins the fight in the republican party. The far right/tea party or the establishment conservative republicans.

It will of course depend on a strong leadership that has not been seen in a long time out of the House Speaker.
Ocean56

AOL

#13 Nov 13, 2012
Kathwynn wrote:
The voter suppression might still be declared illegal. There is a case going in front of a federal court in the near future if I am remembering correctly.
Up in Congress the establishment republicans want to work with the democrats and the White House.
However, the tea party is once more back to saying NO. In the coming weeks we will see who wins the fight in the republican party. The far right/tea party or the establishment conservative republicans.
It will of course depend on a strong leadership that has not been seen in a long time out of the House Speaker.
Agreed. As long as the idiotic tea-party crowd continues to control the republicans, they will keep losing national and state elections. Not that I'm complaining, I LOVE seeing them lose.:-)

I really hope the kind of VOTER SUPPRESSION tactics we saw in Florida and Ohio are made ILLEGAL very soon, as voter suppression IS a form of VOTER FRAUD, which is illegal now. I think that Democratic legislators need to do is to broaden the definition of VOTER FRAUD to include the deliberate attempts by politicans to make voting harder in certain districts.

If that kind of legislative action had been passed into law before 2012, politicians like Rick Scott and John Husted probably wouldn't have dared to try what they actually did in their states, knowing that the penalty would have been huge fines and a possible arrest.

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