Ark. lawmaker proposes new abortion restriction

Jan 29, 2013 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: KTHV-TV Little Rock

Arkansas would ban abortions if a fetal heartbeat is detected under a bill introduced by a Republican senator Monday, a proposal that would prohibit the medical procedure as early as six weeks into a pregnancy.

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Sounds like Arkansas hasn't changed an iota in 200 years. This bill doesn't surprise me - women in Arkansas are the historical epitome of 'property,' to be controlled by their Fathers, their husbands, and eventually, their sons. Of course Arkansas has pioneered the 'fetal heartbeat' legislative trend...making sure the fewest number of women are able to schedule an appointment for an abortion, is typical of those who want to circumvent the legal right to obtain or perform one.

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These fundie men just can't stop being control freaks.
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Pro abortion people like to deny the fact that abortion is murder. It's the taking of innocent human life. That's no mass of tissue, it's a living human being.

Take a look for yourself:
http://www.abortioninstruments.com/

We must stop the holocaust.
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I reject your abortion porn.
It's not porn, and of course you reject it. That short video exposes the lies of the pro abortion agenda and proves beyond doubt that abortion is murdering innocent, helpless little babies, and you can't face the truth about what it is that you support.
Feel free to reject abortion in your own life, by never-ever-ever-ever-EVER contemplating, seeking, or obtaining one.
You don't have to worry about that. And you don't have to worry about me ever entering an elementary school and shooting to death dozens of kids, or committing rape, or committing armed robbery. But that doesn't mean I can't oppose those crimes, just as I oppose the crime of mass murder that we call abortion.
Do something about these if you want to be pro-life, because right now, all you are is pro-fetus.
I'm opposed to the unmitigated slaughtering of 1.5 million innocent little babies in America every single year. That's over 4000 every single day.

Only mentally sick people could possibly support ripping the arms and legs off of tiny little babies and crushing their skulls. It's barbaric and gruesome.
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the real guest wrote:
Pro abortion people like to deny the fact that abortion is murder. It's the taking of innocent human life. That's no mass of tissue, it's a living human being.
ANTI-CHOICE people like to deny that they are AGAINST women's reproductive rights, including the right NOT to reproduce. Some of them are so extreme that they would deny women access to reliable contraceptives if they could get away with it. I wonder how long it will be before some Anthony Comstock wannabe politician decides that contraceptives should be narrowly restricted as well.

I'm not surprised that this is happening in yet another Southern state that has extremely BACKWARD beliefs concerning girls and women. I just feel very sorry for the ones who live in Arkansas or any other state controlled by right-wing conservatives.

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the real guest wrote:
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It's not porn, and of course you reject it. That short video exposes the lies of the pro abortion agenda and proves beyond doubt that abortion is murdering innocent, helpless little babies, and you can't face the truth about what it is that you support.
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You don't have to worry about that. And you don't have to worry about me ever entering an elementary school and shooting to death dozens of kids, or committing rape, or committing armed robbery. But that doesn't mean I can't oppose those crimes, just as I oppose the crime of mass murder that we call abortion.
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I'm opposed to the unmitigated slaughtering of 1.5 million innocent little babies in America every single year. That's over 4000 every single day.
Only mentally sick people could possibly support ripping the arms and legs off of tiny little babies and crushing their skulls. It's barbaric and gruesome.
It is porn, and I'm certain that it wets your willie to think about all the pregnant women in this country being forced to gestate against their will.

I oppose the crime of abrogating the rights of women to self-defense, personal risk assessment, and bodily autonomy.

Fundies LOVE to pretend women get up one fine morning in the eighth month of a much-desired pregnancy, and say, "Gee, I'm bored - I think I'll go have an abortion today!!"

You do realize, of course, that the 'arm-and-leg-ripping abortions' you freaks salivate over, with your graphic depictions of same, are ONLY used in very extreme circumstances when a woman's LIFE is at stake, or her fetus has DIED inside her uterus, or is horribly compromised by fetal disease/deformity such as encephalitis....The vast majority of abortions occur when a woman is less than two months pregnant - because often it takes that long to know she is pregnant in first place - NOT AT THE STAGE DEPICTED IN YOUR PORNOGRAPHY.

You are using the pain of having to resort to aborting in the third trimester, for 'effect', in an attempt to guilt women into gestating a child she doesn't want, can't afford, or which was forced upon her by rape. This is FAR more egregious, than ridding oneself of a clump of undifferentiated cells.

Abortion is legal, and will remain so. It is a necessary medical procedure, and will never be outlawed in the United States.

Deal with it.
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ANTI-CHOICE people like to deny that they are AGAINST women's reproductive rights, including the right NOT to reproduce.
That's a bullshit claim. If a woman doesn't want to reproduce, she can start by not engaging in the only activity that will result in pregnancy. No one is forcibly impregnating her.

We're talking about mass murder here on a scale that makes the WW2 holocaust pale in comparison.
Some of them are so extreme that they would deny women access to reliable contraceptives if they could get away with it.
That's more bullshit. There is not a woman in the country who is hindered in any way from walking into any Walmart or drug store and buying a pack of condoms.
I wonder how long it will be before some Anthony Comstock wannabe politician decides that contraceptives should be narrowly restricted as well.
That will never happen.
I'm not surprised that this is happening in yet another Southern state that has extremely BACKWARD beliefs concerning girls and women.
Backward beliefs are those of sickos like you who think ripping the arms and legs off of little babies and crushing their tiny skulls is okay.
I just feel very sorry for the ones who live in Arkansas or any other state controlled by right-wing conservatives.
I feel sorry for the 1.5 million little babies who are put to death every single year in the most gruesome manner imaginable just because some women don't want to be responsible for the choices they made.
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1. That's a b******t claim. If a woman doesn't want to reproduce, she can start by not engaging in the only activity that will result in pregnancy. No one is forcibly impregnating her.
2. We're talking about mass murder here on a scale that makes the WW2 holocaust pale in comparison.
3. That's more b******t. There is not a woman in the country who is hindered in any way from walking into any Walmart or drug store and buying a pack of condoms.
4. Backward beliefs are those of sickos like you who think ripping the arms and legs off of little babies and crushing their tiny skulls is okay.
1. Oh PLEASE, what nonsense. NO woman has to be punished with lifetime celibacy just because she doesn't want to be punished with a pregnancy she never wanted in the first place.

2. BELIEF, not fact, which I and many don't share.

3. You can say "b******t" all you want. The fact is there HAVE been anti-choice employees in drug stores who REFUSED to fill prescriptions for contraceptives. Women who encountered these backward-thinking employees WERE hindered from getting the birth control they wanted. Also, condoms can BREAK, so they aren't 100% guaranteed against unwanted pregnancy either.

4. Backward beliefs come from anti-choice extremists like you who are STUCK IN THE PAST where women and women's reproductive rights are concerned.

I'm just glad I DON'T live in Arkansas or any other state where right-wing politicians are trying to force women to stay pregnant and give birth. I feel sorry for the women who ARE stuck there.

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NO woman has to be punished with lifetime celibacy just because she doesn't want to be punished with a pregnancy she never wanted in the first place.
So her selfish desires are more important than an innocent baby's life? She shouldn't be held accountable for the consequences of her own actions?

And you think standing against barbaric slaughter is backward? I think you're mentally sick.
You can say "b******t" all you want. The fact is there HAVE been anti-choice employees in drug stores who REFUSED to fill prescriptions for contraceptives.
Now you're just lying your ass off. Trouble for you is that no one is buying that bullshit.
Also, condoms can BREAK, so they aren't 100% guaranteed against unwanted pregnancy either.
The only form of birth control that is 100% guaranteed is abstinence. If people choose to engage in sexual intercourse, then they are assuming the possible results of their choice, which includes pregnancy. Supporting them slaughtering their unborn child just to selfishly avoid those consequences is sick, not to mention morally bankrupt.
Backward beliefs come from anti-choice extremists like you who are STUCK IN THE PAST where women and women's reproductive rights are concerned.
I'm neither backwards nor living in the past. I'm just not a mental case like you who thinks ripping the limbs off of helpless little babies is a good thing.
I'm just glad I DON'T live in Arkansas
I'm glad you don't live in Arkansas too. And since this thread concerns Arkansas law and doesn't have a thing to do with you, mind your own damn business.

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So her selfish desires are more important than an innocent baby's life?
"And God breathed the breath of life into Adam, and gave him a soul." Babies are born. My actual life is more important than the potential for a life contained in my pregnant uterus. If it threatens my life, I will practice self defense. If I choose not to risk my health to gestate it, that is my right, and I decide what risks I'm willing to take in that regard. You don't get to be the 'decider', and it chaps your ass.

Tough.
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<quoted text>She shouldn't be held accountable for the consequences of her own actions?
Obtaining an abortion saved my life, and I don't regret it for one zillionth of an iota of a second.

And that chaps your ass too.


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So her selfish desires are more important than an innocent baby's life? She shouldn't be held accountable for the consequences of her own actions?
Ah, so you want to see a woman PUNISHED for having sex by being forced to stay pregnant and give birth against her will. Got it. My answer is NO, she SHOULDN'T be punished for having sex with forced gestation and birth as a punishment.

Motherhood is OPTIONAL, not required, even if a pregnancy happens. It is EACH woman's decision whether or not to continue a pregnancy, and if it isn't YOUR pregnancy, it isn't your decision. It really IS that simple.
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The only form of birth control that is 100% guaranteed is abstinence. If people choose to engage in sexual intercourse, then they are assuming the possible results of their choice, which includes pregnancy. Supporting them slaughtering their unborn child just to selfishly avoid those consequences is sick, not to mention morally bankrupt.
Actually, I think it's a good idea for TEENS, especially teen girls, to be sexFREE (meaning free FROM sex), so they avoid the unwanted consequences of both pregnancy and sexually transmitted diseases.

The following "public service message" if you will might help girls see the difference between the two lifestyles, being a free teenager and being a teen mom, BEFORE they make the mistake of having sex and possibly ending up pregnant.

If anyone can think of more benefits of lifestyle #1 or negatives of lifestyle #2, please go ahead and add them.

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LIFESTYLE #1 - LIFE AS A FREE TEENAGER:

- Keeping up grades, studying, doing homework
- Participating in after-school activities
- Going to school dances and parties
- Relaxing during summer vacation
- Having fun at the junior or senior prom
- Graduating high school and attending after-graduation parties
- Moving on to college or vocational school with no restrictions

LIFSTYLE #2 - LIFE AS A TEEN MOM:

- Missing school, falling behind in classes
- Getting up two or three times at night to feed a baby
- Endless diaper changes, including stinky ones
- Losing friends who don't want to be around crying babies
- Staying home with a crying baby while friends are out having fun
- Missing high school graduation, or even having to drop out of school
- Losing out on the dream job/career originally planned

As a teenager who is happily NOT pregnant, which lifestyle do YOU want? Wouldn't you rather have the first lifestyle instead of the second?

You can keep Lifestyle #1 very easily, just by saying NO to any guy who pressures you to have sex. If your boyfriend says he'll break up with you if you won't have sex with him, don't cave in. Break up with HIM instead.

Keeping your freedom to BE a teenager; it's the best reason for you to say NO.
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My actual life is more important than the potential for a life contained in my pregnant uterus.
An unborn baby growing inside his mother's womb is not potential life, it's an actual living human being. You pro abortion people lie to yourselves and everyone else to justify murdering innocent little babies.

Here, take a look at what it is that you support:
http://www.abortioninstruments.com/

That's not potential life, that's a real living human being having its limbs ripped from its body. It's horrific, gruesome. Anyone who supports doing that to another human being is mentally sick.
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Ah, so you want to see a woman PUNISHED for having sex by being forced to stay pregnant and give birth against her will.
Nope, I just think murder is wrong. If the mother of a 2 month old decides it's too much trouble, should we allow her take a hammer and smash the baby's skull, then toss the body into the dumpster? Using your logic, that should be okay too. Sicko.
Motherhood is OPTIONAL
Yep, and women can completely avoid the possiblity if they want to. If they choose to engage in the only activity that can result in pregnancy, they are responsible for the result. Committing murder to avoid those consequences is unacceptable.
if it isn't YOUR pregnancy, it isn't your decision.
Nope, it's not. But just as it isn't my decision when others commit murder, or rape, or armed robbery, that doesn't negate my right to speak out against it.

In this case, your position is indefensible. 40 years ago you may have been able to plead ignorance and claim that unborn baby was just a mass of tissue, but with advancements in science and medicine, today there is no doubt that it is a living human being.

You are supporting the most detestable, gruesome and horrific murder on an astronomical scale. No one of sound mind could possible be in favor of that.
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Actually, I think it's a good idea for TEENS, especially teen girls, to be sexFREE (meaning free FROM sex), so they avoid the unwanted consequences of both pregnancy and sexually transmitted diseases.
And that exact same advice is a good idea for a woman of any age who does not want to become pregnant or contract an STD.

The question is what to do when she engages in risky behavior that results in something she doesn't want. Should she be allowed to commit murder to avoid the consequences of her own actions?

If you say yes, then what's the difference between her doing that and me murdering you and taking all of your property so I don't have to live with the consequences of my choice to drop out of high school and hold a steady job?

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An unborn baby growing inside his mother's womb is not potential life, it's an actual living human being. You pro abortion people lie to yourselves and everyone else to justify murdering innocent little babies.
Here, take a look at what it is that you support:
http://www.abortioninstruments.com/
That's not potential life, that's a real living human being having its limbs ripped from its body. It's horrific, gruesome. Anyone who supports doing that to another human being is mentally sick.
Anyone who supports
1. requiring a woman to gestate at the cost of her own life,
2. mandating a woman wait until natural delivery occurs, before she is allowed to expel a dead fetus, or
3. insisting that a woman deliver a child which will either die shortly afterward or "live" in a vegetative state for what remains of his/her "life"
is a helluva lot sicker.

Since those 'limb ripping' abortions are only used in the above circumstances, that would be

YOU.

Freak.
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And that exact same advice is a good idea for a woman of any age who does not want to become pregnant or contract an STD.
The question is what to do when she engages in risky behavior that results in something she doesn't want. Should she be allowed to commit murder to avoid the consequences of her own actions?
If you say yes, then what's the difference between her doing that and me murdering you and taking all of your property so I don't have to live with the consequences of my choice to drop out of high school and hold a steady job?
Actually, I think it's completely IDIOTIC to demand that an adult woman, especially if she is married, punish herself with lifetime celibacy just because she may NEVER want children. Then again, I consider anti-choice extremists who say such nonsense to be idiots anyway, so your demands aren't that surprising.

The fact remains that motherhood IS optional, even if a pregnancy happens. NO woman has to stay pregnant and give birth against her will, and that's a very GOOD thing. You can say "abortion is murder" all you want. I don't agree with that ANTI-CHOICE assertion.

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That's a bullshit claim. If a woman doesn't want to reproduce, she can start by not engaging in the only activity that will result in pregnancy. No one is forcibly impregnating her.
Riiiiiight. Guess you never heard of rape and incest huh?
We're talking about mass murder here on a scale that makes the WW2 holocaust pale in comparison.
Oh good lord, get a new tune ya freak. How DARE you deman the ACTUAL PEOPLE that died in the holocaust!

FACT: Abortion is not now, and has NEVER IN US HISTORY been "murder". Nor will it EVER be "murder".

Grow the hell up.

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<quoted text> Riiiiiight. Guess you never heard of rape and incest huh?
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Oh good lord, get a new tune ya freak. How DARE you deman the ACTUAL PEOPLE that died in the holocaust!
FACT: Abortion is not now, and has NEVER IN US HISTORY been "murder". Nor will it EVER be "murder".
Grow the hell up.
"Riiiiiight. Guess you never heard of rape and incest huh?"

I already brought that up but he managed to ignore it.

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"Riiiiiight. Guess you never heard of rape and incest huh?"
I already brought that up but he managed to ignore it.
What a bunch of freaks these idiots are.

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