What the 2012 election taught us

Nov 6, 2012 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: The Washington Post

We've been scouring the data for clues as to what we should learn from what happened tonight as President Obama relatively easily claimed a second term.

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Thats the plan high unemployment more dependent on the government which means more government control.
Don't try to ecplain this to a Liberal. They are failures. They were failures under the old plan so they think they will not be failures under a new plan that this country was not founded on.
yeap, and the Detroit area is a good example to use.

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<quoted text>we do that right now with Farmers by paying some not to do or produce nothing, why do you think politicians like Michele Bachmann own Farms.
It is NOT conservativism to depen on the government!!!

Like it was wrong for Bush and Mcain to bail out lazy union tugs!!!
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How really stupid the people of this country r. Less than4 yrs there will be a revolution.

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"Hey, it wasn't 2.00 when Obama took office...it was about *3.74*...First lie."

"It was not 1.80...If you want to get technical about it...It was about *4.10* and averaged about 2.07"

"I was paying a little higher here." (A little higher than ontg's $*1.61*)

"Are you fkn kidding me?"

"That's a consumer reports quote."
What's your point?

It wasn't 1.80? Wasn't even close to that when Obama was elected.
Gas crisis of 2008 raised gas prices...You wanna blame Obama for the 2008 gas crisis as well...

Besides, OPEC controls gas prices...The president has little control of what OPEC sets their prices to.

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<quoted text>So is this.

In the week that ended on January 19, 2009, the weekly retail gasoline price in the U.S. was $1.90/gallon.

http://www.consumerenergyreport.com/
So it was lower after Obama was in office...

Which talks to my point. Thanks.

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booligan wrote:
<quoted text>According to CNN, the price of gas was around $1.87 in November. Has it fallen below that since obama has been in office? I wonder why?

I found this which is interesting. It shows the price of gas steadily increasing as soon as Obama is inaugurated.

http://cnsnews.com/news/article/gas-when-bush...
You ever heard of OPEC?

I didn't blame Bush for high gas prices because he would be to fkn stupid to manipulate that complex system...and he didn't, nor did Obama.

You statement is moot.
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Mitchell wrote:
How really stupid the people of this country r. Less than4 yrs there will be a revolution.
This from a person whose isp is Florida, where they elected a guy governnor that bikled the government out of of hundreds of millions of dollars.

And you are calling others stupid?

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What's your point?
It wasn't 1.80? Wasn't even close to that when Obama was elected.
Gas crisis of 2008 raised gas prices...You wanna blame Obama for the 2008 gas crisis as well...
Besides, OPEC controls gas prices...The president has little control of what OPEC sets their prices to.
My point is that you're all over the place and wrong.

You called Stoneman a liar when they said it was around $2 when Obama took office. Stating that it was $3.74. You were wrong. When he took office it was *around* that $2 figure and my $1.80 range was a hell of a lot closer than your $3.74.

I'm not blaming anyone, just pointing out that you were wrong.

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So it was lower after Obama was in office...
Which talks to my point. Thanks.
LOL... He took office on the 20th.
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Just look at the top 25 defense contractors and how many people they employ.
These are the top 3 regarding employment
#3 Northrup Grumman - 117,000 employees
#2 Lockheed Martin - 132,000
#1 Boeing - 160,500
http://www.businessinsider.com/top-25-us-defe...
Wow, that is a lot of corporate welfare; and there are plenty more behind them.
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Good Lord, Can't you people agree on anything?
Someone is lying and someone is right, go look it up. All I know, people have been paying near or
at $4.00 and its more than I can afford. What
or when you paid, if it was important to you,
"YOU would surly know the price"!

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It is NOT conservativism to depen on the government!!!
Like it was wrong for Bush and Mcain to bail out lazy union tugs!!!
I totally agree even with the Lazy Union thugs, its not the Conservatism(Compassinate Conservatism) I want either where everyone wants & its ok to depend on the Government is some form. 1920's Conservatism is nothing like today's Conservatism especially when G.W. Bush labeled it Compassinate Conservatism.

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We know what a failure Obama is.
Yes, you showed us in the last election where you...

wait...

HMMMM....

That's right... he was reelected...

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My point is that you're all over the place and wrong.
You called Stoneman a liar when they said it was around $2 when Obama took office. Stating that it was $3.74. You were wrong. When he took office it was *around* that $2 figure and my $1.80 range was a hell of a lot closer than your $3.74.
I'm not blaming anyone, just pointing out that you were wrong.
Wow...

ok...Follow me on this one...

In the begining of the year 2008, gas was up near 4.00 during Bush's administration...When Obama was elected president in 2008 in NOVEMBER,it was still near the 3.74 mark...Let me know if I'm going to fast...

Now here is where I turned the corner...It wasn't until after Obama was elected that the gas prices were around 2.07 in JANUARY...Got me?

The other poster said that it was 1.87 BEFORE OBAMA WAS ELECTED. I SAID THAT WAS A LIE...

Now let me know if I lost you anywhere.

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LOL... He took office on the 20th.
Yes in JANUARY, WHERE THE PRICE WAS LOWER...

Please let me know where you're getting lost.
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armed forces work, and many of them make enough money to pay taxes silly....are you aware of the pay scale in the military these days? it aint half bad. But when the dems cut the military, and they will, then the soldiers that are released will certainly then fall into the 47%, as there are no jobs for them to take, once they are dropped from the military.
Aren't those armed forces jobs government jobs? Isn't it the GOP that wants to get away from a bloated government? By the way... armed forces jobs don't pay all THAT much. Most members of the armed forces ARE in the "47%".

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Wow...
ok...Follow me on this one...
In the begining of the year 2008, gas was up near 4.00 during Bush's administration...When Obama was elected president in 2008 in NOVEMBER,it was still near the 3.74 mark...Let me know if I'm going to fast...
Now here is where I turned the corner...It wasn't until after Obama was elected that the gas prices were around 2.07 in JANUARY...Got me?
The other poster said that it was 1.87 BEFORE OBAMA WAS ELECTED. I SAID THAT WAS A LIE...
Now let me know if I lost you anywhere.
Who's lost!?

"Anybody notice that gas is still around $3.50-$4.00/gallon? Or have we completely forgotten that it was around $2.00 when Lord *took* office?"

"WHEN OBAMA (Lord) TOOK OFFICE" Not when he WAS ELECTED.

http://www.topix.com/forum/us/politics/TRBM27...

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Wow, that is a lot of corporate welfare; and there are plenty more behind them.
Wonder how many taxes are collected from those corporations and all of their employees?
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<quoted text>I totally agree even with the Lazy Union thugs, its not the Conservatism(Compassionate Conservatism) I want either where everyone wants & its okay to depend on the Government is some form. 1920's Conservatism is nothing like today's Conservatism especially when G.W. Bush labeled it Compassionate Conservatism.
Yeah, 1920s conservatism was GREAT for the country, wasn't it? Let me see... how did that all play out again? Oh, that's right... There were robber barons and then there was a great depression. That sounds like a game plan to me.

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<quoted text>why can you never provide proof for your whackjob conspiracy theories? is it because you get them from whackjob conspiracy theorists?
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