What the 2012 election taught us

Nov 6, 2012 Full story: The Washington Post 10,324

We've been scouring the data for clues as to what we should learn from what happened tonight as President Obama relatively easily claimed a second term.

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Since: Dec 08

Brooklyn, New York

#5192 Dec 7, 2012
Stoneman wrote:
Hey!

Anybody notice that unemployment went up to 8.3% last month? Or are we so accustomed to high unemployment that it doesn't make news?

Anybody notice that gas is still around $3.50-$4.00/gallon? Or have we completely forgotten that it was around $2.00 when Lord took office?
Hey, it wasn't 2.00 when Obama took office...it was about 3.74...First lie.

The number for unemployment went up from claims from hurricane Sandy...Second misinformed lie.

You're welcome.
Responsibility

San Mateo, CA

#5193 Dec 7, 2012
gossamer wrote:
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Don't expect the left to see what a failure he is they are failures too.
Failure is when you are a member of the losing republicant party, believe that binders/47 percenter/an untrustworthy candidate and back to the past policies, marginalization of groups, etc. will win an election.

Seems the republicants failed at winning that election!

Since: Nov 09

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#5194 Dec 7, 2012
Black Rhino wrote:
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Hey, it wasn't 2.00 when Obama took office...it was about 3.74...First lie.
The number for unemployment went up from claims from hurricane Sandy...Second misinformed lie.
You're welcome.
Actually gas was in the $1.80 range.

That's a speculative reason along with lackluster holiday hiring.
ontg

Carol Stream, IL

#5195 Dec 7, 2012
Le Jimbo wrote:
FLASH: THIS JUST IN FROM THE TRUTH ARE US NETWORK..........
OBAMA HAS WON RE-ELECTION AND AS IN ALL ELECTIONS IT MUST BE STUDIED HOW..........
The Main Stream Media : Reported on Flukes, Blew out of proportions the comments of two senators about rape, and failed to engage Obama on Libya, the Economy or the lack of response to Sandy. They controled the message and the messanger. Long live the media.
The Main Stream Media did as with Hitlers Propaganda Machine..........convenienced enough people to vote for the opposite of what they thought they were voting for. The Liberals convenienced the women that republicans were going to over turn Roe and was going to put lock boxes on their crotches.
The Main Stream Media has now a third world country to try and pump up as the liberal's reality of taxes, and entitlements actually come home to roost as the bills for both come due.
I can't wait for the day that the women Obama gave "free" contraceptives to get the bill in the form of higher insurance costs for true medical emergencies. These 20 somethings will one day need the medicines whose costs will be driven up by the "free" contraceptives and they will be left standing there saying "what happened?"and I am going to laugh my head off.

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Since: Dec 08

Brooklyn, New York

#5196 Dec 7, 2012
lost-cause wrote:
<quoted text>Actually gas was in the $1.80 range.

That's a speculative reason along with lackluster holiday hiring.
I beg to differ...

It was not 1.80...If you want to get technical about it...It was about 4.10 and averaged about 2.07 just after Election Day. 2008 gas crisis ring any bells? Not Obamas watch.
stormy

Fairmont, WV

#5197 Dec 7, 2012
Obama is not the blame for anything! You
certainly have been told enough.
Lets not continue to ignore what the dems have told
us, it just gives them the space to keep telling
When they go over the Cliff, Yell for G.W's help.
Sick of the whole mess, no longer can Americans
co-exist with them. They won it"as Obama has said" ,
let them fall, I no longer care what happens to the whole lot of them...
A place in history is better forgoten. In fact
the sooner the better. Ruining other, lies, hate, is no way to have to live in a once free country. When its over, I'll be thankful and hope all of them enjoy what a deserve. Tired of being sick and tired. Reap what you sowed,
ontg

Carol Stream, IL

#5198 Dec 7, 2012
Black Rhino wrote:
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Hey, it wasn't 2.00 when Obama took office...it was about 3.74...First lie.
The number for unemployment went up from claims from hurricane Sandy...Second misinformed lie.
You're welcome.
Actually I was paying $1.61 when Obama took office and that is in Illinois with our high gas taxes.

Since: Nov 09

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#5199 Dec 7, 2012
Black Rhino wrote:
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I beg to differ...
It was not 1.80...If you want to get technical about it...It was about 4.10 and averaged about 2.07 just after Election Day. 2008 gas crisis ring any bells? Not Obamas watch.
Did you even bother to look it up?

Since: Oct 08

Alpharetta, GA

#5200 Dec 7, 2012
tony1003 wrote:
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Usual incorrect statistic - can't even be bothered to correct it as whilst Republicans continue to chuck it around, it proves the 2012 election taught them absolutely nothing. I take it you are aware that all the members of the US armed forces fall into the 47% category?
armed forces work, and many of them make enough money to pay taxes silly....are you aware of the pay scale in the military these days? it aint half bad. But when the dems cut the military, and they will, then the soldiers that are released will certainly then fall into the 47%, as there are no jobs for them to take, once they are dropped from the military.

Since: Nov 09

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#5201 Dec 7, 2012
inbred Genius wrote:
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armed forces work, and many of them make enough money to pay taxes silly....are you aware of the pay scale in the military these days? it aint half bad. But when the dems cut the military, and they will, then the soldiers that are released will certainly then fall into the 47%, as there are no jobs for them to take, once they are dropped from the military.
Not to mention the indirect job lose from cutting the military.

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Since: Dec 08

Brooklyn, New York

#5202 Dec 7, 2012
ontg wrote:
<quoted text>Actually I was paying $1.61 when Obama took office and that is in Illinois with our high gas taxes.
I was paying a little higher here.

The average was about 2.07.

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Since: Dec 08

Brooklyn, New York

#5203 Dec 7, 2012
lost-cause wrote:
<quoted text>Did you even bother to look it up?
Are you fkn kidding me?

That's a consumer reports quote.

Since: Nov 09

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#5204 Dec 7, 2012
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>which tax loopholes are those?
Not going to pretend to know the tax codes well enough to know which should stay and which should go line by line. But I do have a couple of ideas.

Charitable funds should be taxed. Allow the tax credit to the donor but tax the money that is given. It would still give incentive to give.

Another that wouldn't be poplar with many is I believe religous organisations should no longer have tax exempt status.

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#5205 Dec 7, 2012
Black Rhino:

"Hey, it wasn't 2.00 when Obama took office...it was about *3.74*...First lie."

"It was not 1.80...If you want to get technical about it...It was about *4.10* and averaged about 2.07"

"I was paying a little higher here." (A little higher than ontg's $*1.61*)

"Are you fkn kidding me?"

"That's a consumer reports quote."

Since: Nov 12

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#5206 Dec 7, 2012
Some Random Dude wrote:
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Kind of like how the conservative plan of the last decade failed, yet conservatives want to bring it back?
That's where you and many others get confused - there is a VAST difference between republicans and conservatives.

Republican Boehner has been punishing the true conservatives.

They are NOT one in the same.

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#5207 Dec 7, 2012
lost-cause wrote:
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Not to mention the indirect job lose from cutting the military.
Just look at the top 25 defense contractors and how many people they employ.

These are the top 3 regarding employment

#3 Northrup Grumman - 117,000 employees

#2 Lockheed Martin - 132,000

#1 Boeing - 160,500

http://www.businessinsider.com/top-25-us-defe...

Since: Nov 12

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#5208 Dec 7, 2012
Black Rhino wrote:
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Are you fkn kidding me?
That's a consumer reports quote.
So is this.

In the week that ended on January 19, 2009, the weekly retail gasoline price in the U.S. was $1.90/gallon.

http://www.consumerenergyreport.com/
booligan

Mishawaka, IN

#5209 Dec 7, 2012
Black Rhino wrote:
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I beg to differ...
It was not 1.80...If you want to get technical about it...It was about 4.10 and averaged about 2.07 just after Election Day. 2008 gas crisis ring any bells? Not Obamas watch.
According to CNN, the price of gas was around $1.87 in November. Has it fallen below that since obama has been in office? I wonder why?

I found this which is interesting. It shows the price of gas steadily increasing as soon as Obama is inaugurated.

http://cnsnews.com/news/article/gas-when-bush...

Since: Nov 09

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#5210 Dec 7, 2012
La Santa Muerte wrote:
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Just look at the top 25 defense contractors and how many people they employ.
These are the top 3 regarding employment
#3 Northrup Grumman - 117,000 employees
#2 Lockheed Martin - 132,000
#1 Boeing - 160,500
http://www.businessinsider.com/top-25-us-defe...
Yes. And it trickles all the way down to Mom and Pop shops that surround military bases.

Since: Nov 12

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#5211 Dec 7, 2012
lost-cause wrote:
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Yes. And it trickles all the way down to Mom and Pop shops that surround military bases.
The left's version of trickle down socialism.

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