Atheists on the march in America

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When South Florida atheists held their first meeting, they were just five friends, having a beer at a bar.

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“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#71153 Apr 12, 2013
John wrote:
Atheism is simply disbelief no matter how it presents itself.
Correct.

And the idea of a god is still a lie, no matter how pretty the words are, you use describe it.

Faith, without a firm basis in facts, is a lie.
John

United States

#71154 Apr 12, 2013
Atheists can still make claims, but they are to be considered nonclaims. Atheism is simply disbelief.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#71155 Apr 12, 2013
John wrote:
Atheists can still make claims, but they are to be considered nonclaims. Atheism is simply disbelief.
Correct.

And the idea of a god is still a lie, no matter how pretty the words are, that you use describe it.

Faith, without a firm basis in facts, is a lie.

The very definition of the word "faith" implicitly includes the fact that it's a lie.
Thinking

Bolton, UK

#71156 Apr 12, 2013
Nil.
John wrote:
Bureau of labor statistics 4/5/13
Since Obama took office the labor force participation rate has declined from 65.7 percent to 63.3 percent.
In March 496,000 Americans dropped out of the labor force.
there are currently 803,000 unemployed workers that have given up looking for work.
the real unemployment rate, including those that are working part-time due to economic reasons is 13.8%
Since Obama took office the nation has lost 752,000 construction jobs.
the last time the labor force participation rate was this low was in May of 1979.
All this despite raiding the treasury for trillions.
You sir are a liar. This statist ideology has never worked and we will either correct course, live as government cattle, or have a prairie fire. Passive of course LOL.
Want to be taken to school on his anti-American radically buddies. You should. All freethinkers should. Truth is power. Just post you lied and I want charge you for the instruction. Atheists of sound minds should challenge the Bob types that have co-opted disbelief. 4
Thinking

Bolton, UK

#71157 Apr 12, 2013
Nowt.
John wrote:
No they are fighting/lashing out at God. Most of them. This forum has gone on for years and it happens with or without me. You think simple disbelief has carried the forum in all its venom this long? The evidence speaks otherwise. Speaking of evidence. Do you have any in this arena you hold others accountable to?
I've already exposed your standard of evidence yet you want ME to provide YOU evidence in your forum. Let me guess you'll be the arbiter. Your forum insists on fighting God, you can't stay away from him. I've made it clear, apparently you don't read my posts that I don't debate nothing. God is merely an axe and diversion created by loons to mask their nothing agenda.
You've made the claim there is no God so prove it. That's your deal and problem whether its impossible or not. I've offered to debate the evidences/reasons I believe in a prime mover vs any accountable position of belief you want to make a case for. You have failed miserably. Not my problem.
Regurgitating tired nonpoints despite four years of me being clear makes it obvious you have no intention of doing anything other than projecting. Nothing certainly is not the answer.
Stump an antitheist! Ask them what they believe. 4
Thinking

Bolton, UK

#71158 Apr 12, 2013
Numpty.
John wrote:
You're a special kind of nut proven time and again to be an unabashed liar.
On January, 2009 when Obama took office total debt of federal government was $10, 626, 877, 048, 913. 08 according to the US TREASURY. As of January 17, 2013 the last day of business before Obamas second reign of terror the total debt of the federal government was $16, 432, 631, 489, 854. 70.
The new federal debt under Obama in his first term equaled approximately $50,521.00 for each household in the country.
Since your guy can't stand on his own don't bother looking up Bush's debt. I was against Tarp BTW. I'm intellectually honest. It's a shame you aren't.
Your other posts are crap as well. He hasn't created one job while piling up more debt than Washinton through Clinton.
This isn't going to end well. I'll skip the other nonsense about health fraud, history, etc. The country will either reject statism or we will live in tyranny. I'll let you guess the other options. History is cyclical.
Lie for your Obama and your nothing Bob.4
John

United States

#71159 Apr 12, 2013
Atheism is simply disbelief with faith in magic science.
Thinking

Bolton, UK

#71160 Apr 12, 2013
Never.
John wrote:
Absolutely. Right back at ya. Originally I simply asked the forum what they believed and noted that antitheism is in my experience all too often the default. Being a believer is/was irrelevant. I was accurate and antitheists showed their true colors, lashing out against a God they don't believe in and a God I was not attempting to shove down their throats.
Ruling out possibilities is not freethinking. We don't know what we don't know. Attacking/marginalizing belief isn't intellectually honest when nothing meets the repeatable and observable standard. Four years of no evidence in the atheism forum is enough for me to conclude this. I've asked the question hundreds of times and many claim to have provided it, but that's a lie. No sugarcoating it.
The conversation devolved quickly as (the way I see it) their was a group attack effort to bring this God they seem to hate into the equation. This did not dissuade me as I chose to stay on point. I was clear my intentions were not to make any claims, I was an am.simply pointing out intellectual dishonesty.
I continued trying to get the "rules" for evidence after all attempts to get answers to legitiamate questions failed. I sought these rules in response to the neverending attacks to further expose the forum. I offered to debate the evidences/reasons I believe in a prime mover vs any accountable position of belief that meets the criteria I was given. This challenge was not accepted. There will be claims otherwise but I guarrantee you won't find what I've asked. Now imagine doing this dance for four years simply because I refuse to debate nothing. I didn't set out to mock simple disbelief, that fine but this isn't that and I think you know it.
Name a subject I get to ask all the questions on and your job is to defend it, over and over and over and over again. How about science? Get my point? It's even more ridiculous considering I've exposed the standard. Remember my question regarding evidence quantification? Never answered relevantly.
Nonbelievers like yourself leave pretty quickly and they should. You may find it glib but what is the point of a forum about nothing? This is an agenda that stifles true freethought.
A simple I don't know...end forum would have sufficed. Now its a game to me to see how many years this forum will be intellectualy dishonest in their fight for nothing.
I appreciate your consideration but I've done this multiple times with decent folk like yourself. I won't debate in front of the kids without the reasonable prerequisites I've asked for. A simple no to my question should have been the response years ago LOL. Back to cut and paste. Yawn.
Reading comprehension is not your strong suit. 4
Thinking

Bolton, UK

#71161 Apr 12, 2013
Atheism is a lack of belief in magic.
John wrote:
Atheism is simply disbelief with faith in magic science.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#71162 Apr 12, 2013
Exactly, Thinking.

:)

“Formerly "Richard"”

Since: Mar 12

In the beginning e=mc^2

#71163 Apr 12, 2013
John wrote:
Atheism is simply disbelief with faith in magic science.
Magic science??? Where do you study that?
John

United States

#71164 Apr 12, 2013
Atheism is the disbelief in evidence. Got it.

Since: Mar 11

Minnesota's North Coast

#71165 Apr 12, 2013
John wrote:
Atheism is the disbelief in evidence. Got it.
no, atheism is acknowledging the fact that religious cults are based on proven myths.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#71166 Apr 12, 2013
John wrote:
Atheism is the disbelief in evidence. Got it.
Of course! Since by "evidence" you really mean "because Johnnie-boy said so", or as we like to put it so accurately, "goddidit"...

... you are quite silly, little god-boy.
John

United States

#71167 Apr 12, 2013
Now there are different definitions. For five years it was simply disbelief. Nothing more. Never anything more LOL.

Since: Mar 11

Minnesota's North Coast

#71168 Apr 12, 2013
John wrote:
Now there are different definitions. For five years it was simply disbelief. Nothing more. Never anything more LOL.
that was your definition, but you don't know what you are talking about as far as atheism goes. your cult mentality prevents you from rational thought.

“Yeah, but...”

Since: Sep 11

MILKY WAY

#71169 Apr 12, 2013
"When people stop believing in God, they don't believe in nothing -- they believe in anything."
-- GK Chesterton
John

United States

#71170 Apr 12, 2013
Atheism is the rational, logical, evidence free nothing.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#71171 Apr 12, 2013
SirPrize wrote:
"When people stop believing in God, they don't believe in nothing -- they believe in anything."
-- GK Chesterton
Oh look! Another godbot sock-puppet newly fabricated...

... I wonder which godbot grey-boxer this one will turn out to be?

LOL!

This one's idiotic quote demonstrates he's as clueless what it means to be atheist as all the rest of the mindless god-robots...

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#71172 Apr 12, 2013
John wrote:
Atheism is the rational, logical, evidence free nothing.
Of course! Since by "evidence" you really mean "because Johnnie-boy said so", or as we like to put it so accurately, "goddidit"...

... you are quite silly, little god-boy.

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