Atheists on the march in America

Atheists on the march in America

There are 70645 comments on the TurkishPress.com story from Aug 26, 2009, titled Atheists on the march in America. In it, TurkishPress.com reports that:

When South Florida atheists held their first meeting, they were just five friends, having a beer at a bar.

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Since: Nov 12

Pittsburgh, PA

#69367 Mar 6, 2013
John wrote:
I see your forum still has no evidence that meets the standards they hood others accountable to.
The one who makes the claim holds the burden of proof.
You can't prove a negative.
I am not making a claim, I am rejecting your claim due to lack of evidence.
John wrote:
You claim there is no evidence if a prime mover so prove it.
Rejecting a claim is not making a claim..... We WOULD probably reject your evidence since it is probably the same fallacious points we've heard a thousand times... By you haven't presented any since I've come to this forum (only been on this one a few weeks so i apologize if i have missed any comments you've posted in the past i am not aware of)
John wrote:
You see folks NOTHING is evidence in this arena to these loons they are simply bigots with an axe to grind. Their sole intent is singular and specific. Marginalize the God they don't believe in.
You continuously ignore my response to your bigotry claims. You are grouping atheists to insult them all. That is bigotry. If i insult you personally, that is not bigotry. It's isn't nice... But not bigotry. I can even insult Christianity and religion entirely and not be a bigot. Insulting an idea is not bigotry. If i acted like you and said Christians are all gullible and stupid, THAT would make me a bigot.

Some of the smartest people I know are Christians. Christianity is harmful and I have no respect for it with a few exceptions. Community is helpful and being alone is no fun.
John wrote:
Now my claim and challenge is there are more reasons and evidences for a prime mover than any other accountable position of belief.
Great. What are those reasons?
John wrote:
I don't debate nothin and only the most gullible fall for your irrationalities. You got something or not. Heck, you can't even make something up.
It is not a battle of claims. It is about defending your own claim. Like a judge. The verdict isn't guilty or innocent... It is guilty or not guilty. Think about it.
John wrote:
Evidence is just a word to you loons. I've already exposed you so just make a case or do you feel the urge to incessantly repeat your noncase. It's utterly laughable you have nothing since 2009.
How does an antitheist decide which is the most or least likely of the following: always was, prime mover, something from nothing. Show your work please :)
Antitheists don't do questions or evidence.
Different atheists may have different answers here.... But atheism itself is simply rejecting the prime mover. If you want to battle over one of those other options you need to go debate a scientist.

Let me try to explain (I know you will hate my choice of metaphor but please understand that I am trying to put you in our shoes so yes it will sound ridiculous)

If there is a closed door and someone says " is there something behind this door? Is there nothing behind this door? Or is there an Invisible Pink Unicorn behind this door?"

The atheist answer would be... " I don't know, but its not the invisible unicorn"

“Darwin died for your sins”

Since: Aug 08

Nunya

#69368 Mar 6, 2013
EmpAtheist wrote:
<quoted text>
The one who makes the claim holds the burden of proof.
You can't prove a negative.
I am not making a claim, I am rejecting your claim due to lack of evidence.
<quoted text>
Rejecting a claim is not making a claim..... We WOULD probably reject your evidence since it is probably the same fallacious points we've heard a thousand times... By you haven't presented any since I've come to this forum (only been on this one a few weeks so i apologize if i have missed any comments you've posted in the past i am not aware of)
<quoted text>
You continuously ignore my response to your bigotry claims. You are grouping atheists to insult them all. That is bigotry. If i insult you personally, that is not bigotry. It's isn't nice... But not bigotry. I can even insult Christianity and religion entirely and not be a bigot. Insulting an idea is not bigotry. If i acted like you and said Christians are all gullible and stupid, THAT would make me a bigot.
Some of the smartest people I know are Christians. Christianity is harmful and I have no respect for it with a few exceptions. Community is helpful and being alone is no fun.
<quoted text>
Great. What are those reasons?
<quoted text>
It is not a battle of claims. It is about defending your own claim. Like a judge. The verdict isn't guilty or innocent... It is guilty or not guilty. Think about it.
<quoted text>
Different atheists may have different answers here.... But atheism itself is simply rejecting the prime mover. If you want to battle over one of those other options you need to go debate a scientist.
Let me try to explain (I know you will hate my choice of metaphor but please understand that I am trying to put you in our shoes so yes it will sound ridiculous)
If there is a closed door and someone says " is there something behind this door? Is there nothing behind this door? Or is there an Invisible Pink Unicorn behind this door?"
The atheist answer would be... " I don't know, but its not the invisible unicorn"
Trust me EA, you haven't missed anything from this bufoon. He's posted the same thing here for years now. Best to just ignore the sh!tstirring troll.
Lincoln

United States

#69369 Mar 7, 2013
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
<quoted text>
The early presidents were not what you'd call Genuine Christians™-- many did not believe your Jewsus was a god, for example.
Some even doubted your Jewsus ..........
Jewsus

What is with this Jewsus ?

Your can't do research and now you seem unable to spell

Jesus
Thinking

Winsford, UK

#69370 Mar 7, 2013
jesus.
Lincoln wrote:
<quoted text>
Jewsus
What is with this Jewsus ?
Your can't do research and now you seem unable to spell
Jesus

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#69371 Mar 7, 2013
Langoliers wrote:
<quoted text>
Ya right, putting up the original post is back peddling because you don't know how to read. NN (Numb Nuts).
Your hate is making you even uglier than we had previously thought.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#69372 Mar 7, 2013
Langoliers wrote:
<quoted text>
Look like it's stuck in a feed back loop.
Naaah... I just wrote a little script to deal with the god-robot "Lincolin"

It's all he deserves-- more effort, really.

Seeing as he has detectable intelligences.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#69373 Mar 7, 2013
EmpAtheist wrote:
<quoted text>
The one who makes the claim holds the burden of proof.
You can't prove a negative.
I am not making a claim, I am rejecting your claim due to lack of evidence.
<quoted text>
Rejecting a claim is not making a claim..... We WOULD probably reject your evidence since it is probably the same fallacious points we've heard a thousand times... By you haven't presented any since I've come to this forum (only been on this one a few weeks so i apologize if i have missed any comments you've posted in the past i am not aware of)
<quoted text>
You continuously ignore my response to your bigotry claims. You are grouping atheists to insult them all. That is bigotry. If i insult you personally, that is not bigotry. It's isn't nice... But not bigotry. I can even insult Christianity and religion entirely and not be a bigot. Insulting an idea is not bigotry. If i acted like you and said Christians are all gullible and stupid, THAT would make me a bigot.
Some of the smartest people I know are Christians. Christianity is harmful and I have no respect for it with a few exceptions. Community is helpful and being alone is no fun.
<quoted text>
Great. What are those reasons?
<quoted text>
It is not a battle of claims. It is about defending your own claim. Like a judge. The verdict isn't guilty or innocent... It is guilty or not guilty. Think about it.
<quoted text>
Different atheists may have different answers here.... But atheism itself is simply rejecting the prime mover. If you want to battle over one of those other options you need to go debate a scientist.
Let me try to explain (I know you will hate my choice of metaphor but please understand that I am trying to put you in our shoes so yes it will sound ridiculous)
If there is a closed door and someone says " is there something behind this door? Is there nothing behind this door? Or is there an Invisible Pink Unicorn behind this door?"
The atheist answer would be... " I don't know, but its not the invisible unicorn"
Well done!

Your counter-arguments were all spot-on.

It's a damn shame that the god-robot Jonnie, has no detectable intelligence left.

Nice rebuttal, though.

:)

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#69374 Mar 7, 2013
Lincoln wrote:
<quoted text>
Jewsus
What is with this Jewsus ?
Your can't do research and now you seem unable to spell
Jesus
Jewsus-- the fictional MAN you claim to have a deep, personal relationship with on a nightly basis.

What?

You don't like being reminded that your "hero" was a JEW?

Why not?
Lincoln

United States

#69375 Mar 7, 2013
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
<quoted text>
Jewsus-- the fictional MAN you claim to have a deep, personal relationship with on a nightly basis.
What?
You don't like being reminded that your "hero" was a JEW?
Why not?
I don't claim anything.
You do sound

a bit like Hitler.

Hitler wrote the same Quantum-Bot
John

United States

#69376 Mar 7, 2013
My goodness the lengths you loons will go to avoid an accountable position and defend your hypocrisy is impressive.
Perhaps some history would help you empty. I don't debate nothing. I simply asked some questions starting in 2009 and this forum of antitheists got pissy.
It's obvious this forum is mainly about marginalizing belief. That's the purpose. In response I've offered to debate the evidences and reasons I believe in a prime mover vs any other accountable position of belief. Your game of attack, retreat, attack, retreat, is appararent and I've exposed you.
Your nothing post was longer than most. Next time save yourself some time and skip it. Four years and tens of thousands of postal about a so called nonclaim, nonagenda is really pretty nuts.

Welcome to Stumpville!
John

United States

#69377 Mar 7, 2013
John wrote:
I see your forum still has no evidence that meets the standards they hood others accountable to. You claim there is no evidence if a prime mover so prove it. You see folks NOTHING is evidence in this arena to these loons they are simply bigots with an axe to grind. Their sole intent is singular and specific. Marginalize the God they don't believe in.
Now my claim and challenge is there are more reasons and evidences for a prime mover than any other accountable position of belief. I don't debate nothin and only the most gullible fall for your irrationalities. You got something or not. Heck, you can't even make something up.
Evidence is just a word to you loons. I've already exposed you so just make a case or do you feel the urge to incessantly repeat your noncase. It's utterly laughable you have nothing since 2009.
How does an antitheist decide which is the most or least likely of the following: always was, prime mover, something from nothing. Show your work please :)
Antitheists don't do questions or evidence.
Atheists don't do questions.
John

United States

#69378 Mar 7, 2013
You make the presupposition that there is no evidence without admitting you do not have the scientifically measurable evidence to support your position of nothing. You have placed limits on what may be limitless. You have placed limits where they need not be. Thus far I have seen no evidence provided by an atheist that would support what is disingenuously called natural mechanisms only. If you think there isn't evidence of design you would be wrong. Admittedly, this can not be proven using your constricting criteria, but nothing in this arena has been proven using this standard. You know this by now. That is why it is so frustrating to the forum when it's pointed out. Judging by the ever-growing anecdotal evidence of this forum overwhelmingly congregated by atheists, atheism is something else entirely. There is a large contingent of antitheists, a portion devoted to secular humanism, and some interplay with other assorted isms. The common denominator is that every single one of these positions is lacking in evidence. The notion that man is the be all end all is flawed in my opinion. Of course you wish to shirk any burden of proof. That's transparent and shows a weak position. Atheism has been co-opted by the new atheist. Much more vocal and commited to breaking down the populace writ large that actually do have a position. I've given more than enough opportunity for atheists to engage in debate that is not circular. The brilliance and weakness of atheism is no accountability. That's why it's not challenging to debate this topic with you loons. Apologies to the few that aren't driven by more than uncertainty. When Reagan debated Gorbachev on our nuclear arsenals each man had a position. If there was a political debate the political atheist would attack the other position and not have to be responsible for one himself. If one football team was atheist and the other was not they would have the ball on offense the whole game. Fumble, and the ball would be returned. This is what you ask for here, but is unacceptable in every other topic. I'm conservative btw. A rational freethinker. I'm sure you are a centrist LOL. What's the mushy middle ithought on government size, abortion, tax rates?
If there isn't a position don't bother responding. How is the fence DREW, Curious, Mikey,,,,? You got the post wedged good and deep yet? Stump an antitheist! Ask it what it believes. Still going strong 66,590 plus posts in.
Still nothing about atheism in the atheist forum. No position, no post #. Lies, spin, ad hominem, and boredom.
Waiting for an example of what passes the cut for evidence from atheists. Cowards!

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#69379 Mar 7, 2013
John wrote:
<quoted text>
Atheists don't do questions.
Sure we do, you just always run away! your faith is weak and based on proven lies. this is why you run.
Thinking

Winsford, UK

#69380 Mar 7, 2013
Sources?
Lincoln wrote:
<quoted text>
I don't claim anything.
You do sound
a bit like Hitler.
Hitler wrote the same Quantum-Bot
John

United States

#69381 Mar 7, 2013
Nothing...and you skipped the questions.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#69382 Mar 7, 2013
Lincoln wrote:
<quoted text>
I don't claim anything.
Lie.

I well remember your very first post to me.

It claimed all sorts of Genuine Christian™ crapola.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#69383 Mar 7, 2013
John wrote:
My goodness the lengths you loons will go to avoid an accountable position and defend your hypocrisy is impressive.
Perhaps some history would help you empty. I don't debate nothing. I simply asked some questions starting in 2009 and this forum of antitheists got pissy.
It's obvious this forum is mainly about marginalizing belief. That's the purpose. In response I've offered to debate the evidences and reasons I believe in a prime mover vs any other accountable position of belief. Your game of attack, retreat, attack, retreat, is appararent and I've exposed you.
Your nothing post was longer than most. Next time save yourself some time and skip it. Four years and tens of thousands of postal about a so called nonclaim, nonagenda is really pretty nuts.
Welcome to Stumpville!
The above?

Is not an argument for your ... ahem .. "prime mover".

Neither is it evidence in support of that silliness.

I get to keep my money-- you are still a coward.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#69384 Mar 7, 2013
John wrote:
<quoted text>
Atheists don't do questions.
The above?

Is not an argument for your ... ahem .. "prime mover".

Neither is it evidence in support of that silliness.

I get to keep my money-- you are still a coward.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#69385 Mar 7, 2013
John wrote:
<spam deleted>
The above?

Is not an argument for your ... ahem .. "prime mover".

Neither is it evidence in support of that silliness.

I get to keep my money-- you are still a coward.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#69386 Mar 7, 2013
John wrote:
Nothing...and you skipped the questions.
What "questions"?

You STILL don't even have a simple ARGUMENT for your ... ahem... "prime mover".

Not one single statement from YOU in support of that silliness.

Why?

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