Atheists on the march in America

Atheists on the march in America

There are 70645 comments on the TurkishPress.com story from Aug 26, 2009, titled Atheists on the march in America. In it, TurkishPress.com reports that:

When South Florida atheists held their first meeting, they were just five friends, having a beer at a bar.

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“I see quantum effects”

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#64151 Sep 4, 2012
ARGUING with IDIOTS wrote:
<quoted text>Slow your roll John!

I have yet to find anyone on here that is willing to take an accountable position or even define what it means! Just people that want to tear down people instead of presenting an argument to defend a position.

I have even offered to apply whatever standards my opposition sets, as long as it applies to their argument as well.

Yet to find anyone that wants to play on a fair field...
We try to be truthful.

That's something that you and John are unable to do.

I like Sam Harris' concept of having a room where it is impossible to lie.

We'd be able to shut all you godbots up, at least for a little while.

“I see quantum effects”

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#64152 Sep 4, 2012
John wrote:
I couldn't agree more and have made the same offer. They realize their nothing is illogical and indefensible. There will be responses but not one will have relevance. What type of person fights so hard for nothing. This is just bigoted nonsense.

Stump an antitheist! Ask them what they believe.
What's my nothing?

“I see quantum effects”

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#64153 Sep 4, 2012
Drew Smith wrote:
<quoted text>You mean, like John, who won't be held accountable for his claimed position?
What is his accountable position?

If he's actually stated it, that's an improvement.

“I see quantum effects”

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#64154 Sep 4, 2012
John wrote:
1. If Rose had a conscience there would be evidence of one.
2.there is no evidence Rose has a conscience.
3.Rose has no conscience.

I'm waiting for a simple answer I asked three years ago. This is an atheism forum. Either present an accountable position or don't. Nothing doesn't need a forum unless this is about your hate for a God you don't believe in.

I will await your nothing. Should you decide to be intellectually honest I will debate what I consider reasonable and logical evidences for a prime mover vs ?????

Until then, you are a transparent bigot.

Something from nothing is ludicrous. It makes as much sense as your forthcoming Obama vote.
Nicely evaded.

Coward.

And my first sentence was a lie.

That was a totally lame evasion.

Coward.

“I see quantum effects”

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#64155 Sep 4, 2012
John wrote:
Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery Liberty. I realize all you have IA nothing and you feel bizarrely compelled to defend it but trust me you look like fools to rational people.

Either answer the question I asked three years ago or submit an accountable position and we will compare evidences. Thus far I have stayed my argument is for that of a prime mover. Yours? It's only your forum. It's only been three years with no evidence from an atheist that they expect from the somethings.

Nothing bless.
WTF is an accountable position, John?

“I see quantum effects”

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#64156 Sep 4, 2012
John wrote:
You make the presupposition that there is no evidence without admitting you do not have the scientifically measurable evidence to support your position of nothing. You have placed limits on what may be limitless. You have placed limits where they need not be. Thus far I have seen no evidence provided by an atheist that would support what is disingenuously called natural mechanisms only. If you think there isn't evidence of design you would be wrong. Admittedly, this can not be proven using your constricting criteria, but nothing in this arena has been proven using this standard. You know this by now. That is why it is so frustrating to the forum when it's pointed out. Judging by the ever-growing anecdotal evidence of this forum overwhelmingly congregated by atheists, atheism is something else entirely. There is a large contingent of antitheists, a portion devoted to secular humanism, and some interplay with other assorted isms. The common denominator is that every single one of these positions is lacking in evidence. The notion that man is the be all end all is flawed in my opinion. Of course you wish to shirk any burden of proof. That's transparent and shows a weak position. Atheism has been co-opted by the new atheist. Much more vocal and commited to breaking down the populace writ large that actually do have a position. I've given more than enough opportunity for atheists to engage in debate that is not circular. The brilliance and weakness of atheism is no accountability. That's why it's not challenging to debate this topic with you loons. Apologies to the few that aren't driven by more than uncertainty. When Reagan debated Gorbachev on our nuclear arsenals each man had a position. If there was a political debate the political atheist would attack the other position and not have to be responsible for one himself. If one football team was atheist and the other was not they would have the ball on offense the whole game. Fumble, and the ball would be returned. This is what you ask for here, but is unacceptable in every other topic. I'm conservative btw. A rational freethinker. I'm sure you are a centrist LOL. What's the mushy middle thought on government size, abortion, tax rates?
If there isn't a position don't bother responding. How is the fence DREW, Curious, Mikey,,,,? You got the post wedged good and deep yet? Stump an antitheist! Ask it what it believes. Still going strong 61,530 plus posts in.
Still nothing about atheism in the atheist forum. No position, no post #. Lies, spin, ad hominem, and boredom.
Waiting for an example of what passes the cut for evidence from atheists. Cowards!
Did you change some of this?

I never really read past the first couple of lines, but this seems like you might have edited it from a couple of years ago.

“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

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#64157 Sep 4, 2012
ARGUING with IDIOTS wrote:
<quoted text>John wins again with the better argument!
Pigeon.

“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

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#64158 Sep 4, 2012
ARGUING with IDIOTS wrote:
<quoted text>Certainly you fail to answer my simple common sense questions proves your ineptitude for all to see!
I missed it.

Caught yours and johnboy's though.
John

Cleveland, TX

#64159 Sep 4, 2012
You make the presupposition that there is no evidence without admitting you do not have the scientifically measurable evidence to support your position of nothing. You have placed limits on what may be limitless. You have placed limits where they need not be. Thus far I have seen no evidence provided by an atheist that would support what is disingenuously called natural mechanisms only. If you think there isn't evidence of design you would be wrong. Admittedly, this can not be proven using your constricting criteria, but nothing in this arena has been proven using this standard. You know this by now. That is why it is so frustrating to the forum when it's pointed out. Judging by the ever-growing anecdotal evidence of this forum overwhelmingly congregated by atheists, atheism is something else entirely. There is a large contingent of antitheists, a portion devoted to secular humanism, and some interplay with other assorted isms. The common denominator is that every single one of these positions is lacking in evidence. The notion that man is the be all end all is flawed in my opinion. Of course you wish to shirk any burden of proof. That's transparent and shows a weak position. Atheism has been co-opted by the new atheist. Much more vocal and commited to breaking down the populace writ large that actually do have a position. I've given more than enough opportunity for atheists to engage in debate that is not circular. The brilliance and weakness of atheism is no accountability. That's why it's not challenging to debate this topic with you loons. Apologies to the few that aren't driven by more than uncertainty. When Reagan debated Gorbachev on our nuclear arsenals each man had a position. If there was a political debate the political atheist would attack the other position and not have to be responsible for one himself. If one football team was atheist and the other was not they would have the ball on offense the whole game. Fumble, and the ball would be returned. This is what you ask for here, but is unacceptable in every other topic. I'm conservative btw. A rational freethinker. I'm sure you are a centrist LOL. What's the mushy middle thought on government size, abortion, tax rates?
If there isn't a position don't bother responding. How is the fence DREW, Curious, Mikey,,,,? You got the post wedged good and deep yet? Stump an antitheist! Ask it what it believes. Still going strong 61,600 plus posts in.
Still nothing about atheism in the atheist forum. No position, no post #. Lies, spin, ad hominem, and boredom.
Waiting for an example of what passes the cut for evidence from atheists. Cowards!

“I see quantum effects”

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#64160 Sep 4, 2012
ARGUING with IDIOTS wrote:
<quoted text>Not even close!

You claimed you could define reality, but have not done so! You failed!

I did not this Hovind or his argument! Straw Man, you failed again!

Not my fault you lack the ability to articulate an argument! You failed again!

You wish you could be me, snack shack!
If you are inside a building, find a wall with about 15 or 20 feet of clear space in front of it.

Now run towards the wall as fast as you can.

Don't stop and you will experience reality.

And entertain the shit out of me.
John

Cleveland, TX

#64161 Sep 4, 2012
The latest nothing has been thoughtful, rational, logical, and evidence packed! Wow, you loons don't like being exposed.

Stump an antitheist! Ask them what they believe.

Since: Apr 11

Panorama City, CA

#64162 Sep 4, 2012
John wrote:
1. If Rose had a conscience there would be evidence of one.
Not necessarily. Not being all powerful, like god, I could have a conscience yet be unable to communicate.

You fail.
Next.

Since: Apr 11

Panorama City, CA

#64163 Sep 4, 2012
John wrote:
Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery
Imitation is the sincerest form of mockery.

Since: Apr 11

Panorama City, CA

#64164 Sep 4, 2012
John wrote:
1. If Rose had a conscience there would be evidence of one.
2.there is no evidence Rose has a conscience.
3.Rose has no conscience.
I'm waiting for a simple answer I asked three years ago. This is an atheism forum. Either present an accountable position or don't.
Here is my accountable position. Debate it, or sip on a big steaming cup of STFU. Deal?
1. If god exists, there is evidence of his existence.
2. There is no evidence of god's existence.
3. God does not exist.
John

Cleveland, TX

#64165 Sep 4, 2012
Rose_NoHo wrote:
<quoted text>
Not necessarily. Not being all powerful, like god, I could have a conscience yet be unable to communicate.
You fail.
Next.
No Rose you are just too dense to understand. You do enjoy your tangents and disbelief though. I would spell things out for you and the loser would have to leave the forum. You have already lied though. That's almost a given with a liberal atheist.

Liberty lied also. He claims my questions have had dozens of relevant answers. You loons got the talking done, now how about some evidence.

Rose is confused between belief and disbelief. She is not a nut or a bigot. These folks are truly just wanting their nothing to be acknowledged. They have no agenda and its perfectly rational to have a forum about nothing. They could debate the evidences of a prime mover vs ???? as soon as they figure ? it out.

Atheism exposed 101. Same episode every day.

“I see quantum effects”

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#64166 Sep 4, 2012
Rose_NoHo wrote:
<quoted text>I hope you are being sarcastic!
He's not.

“I see quantum effects”

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#64167 Sep 4, 2012
John wrote:
Arguing with Idiots- the most fitting name for any freethinker that posts in this forum about nothing.

I skimmed your posts as I've been doing for three years loons. Did you provide an accountable position that meets the criteria you hold others to yet? I doubt it. I'll just wait then. No rush. By all means continue with your nothing.

Stump an antitheist! Ask them what they believe.
He's one of yours, John.

Since: Apr 11

Panorama City, CA

#64168 Sep 4, 2012
John wrote:
<quoted text>
No Rose you are just too dense to understand. You do enjoy your tangents and disbelief though. I would spell things out for you and the loser would have to leave the forum.
You'd have to leave?
Anyway, I pointed out that you are wrong.
John wrote:
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You have already lied though. That's almost a given with a liberal atheist.
Odd. You can't quote a lie I've told.
John wrote:
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Liberty lied also. He claims my questions have had dozens of relevant answers. You loons got the talking done, now how about some evidence.
Rose is confused between belief and disbelief. She is not a nut or a bigot. These folks are truly just wanting their nothing to be acknowledged. They have no agenda and its perfectly rational to have a forum about nothing. They could debate the evidences of a prime mover vs ???? as soon as they figure ? it out.
Atheism exposed 101. Same episode every day.
Still waiting for you to debate.
Do you think it would be possible for god to exist, yet there be no evidence of his existence?
John

Cleveland, TX

#64169 Sep 4, 2012
Next time I'll add the little @ sign bit I amwell aware of another rationalist. You forget I just skim your ridiculous forum for content at this point, see it isn't there, and note it. All done from a cell phone.

Your nothing is noted.

Since: Mar 11

Lewis Center, OH

#64171 Sep 4, 2012
As usual John is unable to actually answer even the simplest question let alone debate.

Stump John ask him if he believes in reality!

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