Atheists on the march in America

Atheists on the march in America

There are 70652 comments on the TurkishPress.com story from Aug 26, 2009, titled Atheists on the march in America. In it, TurkishPress.com reports that:

When South Florida atheists held their first meeting, they were just five friends, having a beer at a bar.

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Since: Mar 11

United States

#63849 Aug 19, 2012
Do you believe in reality yes or no?

Without a yes or no I shall of course continue to claim victory on stumping you.

Stump a Theist ask them a simple question!
John wrote:
Nothing is not a stumper Skeptic. Move on. Your hypocrsiy and bigotry have been exposed.

Stump an antitheist! Ask them what they believe.
John

Saint Louis, MO

#63850 Aug 19, 2012
Another day of ineptitude from the antitheists.*Note to lurkers* They have gone almost three years without giving one accountable position they are willing to debate. Three years without an example of evidence that meets their criteria for evidence. These are angry agenda driven folks that don't give a damn about the evidence.
If you want to subject yourself to this farce by all means see for yourself. Antitheists you could also just cut and paste one of the 61,320 posts to show otherwise.
Stump an antitheist! Ask them what they believe. True science that is repeatable and observable.
John

Saint Louis, MO

#63851 Aug 19, 2012
You make the presupposition that there is no evidence without admitting you do not have the scientifically measurable evidence to support your position of nothing. You have placed limits on what may be limitless. You have placed limits where they need not be. Thus far I have seen no evidence provided by an atheist that would support what is disingenuously called natural mechanisms only. If you think there isn't evidence of design you would be wrong. Admittedly, this can not be proven using your constricting criteria, but nothing in this arena has been proven using this standard. You know this by now. That is why it is so frustrating to the forum when it's pointed out. Judging by the ever-growing anecdotal evidence of this forum overwhelmingly congregated by atheists, atheism is something else entirely. There is a large contingent of antitheists, a portion devoted to secular humanism, and some interplay with other assorted isms. The common denominator is that every single one of these positions is lacking in evidence. The notion that man is the be all end all is flawed in my opinion. Of course you wish to shirk any burden of proof. That's transparent and shows a weak position. Atheism has been co-opted by the new atheist. Much more vocal and commited to breaking down the populace writ large that actually do have a position. I've given more than enough opportunity for atheists to engage in debate that is not circular. The brilliance and weakness of atheism is no accountability. That's why it's not challenging to debate this topic with you loons. Apologies to the few that aren't driven by more than uncertainty. When Reagan debated Gorbachev on our nuclear arsenals each man had a position. If there was a political debate the political atheist would attack the other position and not have to be responsible for one himself. If one football team was atheist and the other was not they would have the ball on offense the whole game. Fumble, and the ball would be returned. This is what you ask for here, but is unacceptable in every other topic. I'm conservative btw. A rational freethinker. I'm sure you are a centrist LOL. What's the mushy middle thought on government size, abortion, tax rates?
If there isn't a position don't bother responding. How is the fence DREW, Curious, Mikey,,,,? You got the post wedged good and deep yet? Stump an antitheist! Ask it what it believes. Still going strong 61,320 plus posts in.
Still nothing about atheism in the atheist forum. No position, no post #. Lies, spin, ad hominem, and boredom.
Waiting for an example of what passes the cut for evidence from atheists. Cowards!

“Amor patriae.”

Since: Feb 08

Eastern Oregon

#63852 Aug 19, 2012
Givemeliberty wrote:
Do you believe in reality yes or no?
Without a yes or no I shall of course continue to claim victory on stumping you.
Stump a Theist ask them a simple question!
<quoted text>
"Believe" in reality?? Reality demonstrates that something out of nothing is manifestly impossible. Once science can show how this supposedly occurred, all possibilities are on the table.

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#63853 Aug 19, 2012
mdbuilder wrote:
<quoted text>
"Believe" in reality?? Reality demonstrates that something out of nothing is manifestly impossible. Once science can show how this supposedly occurred, all possibilities are on the table.
You need to catch up. Scientifically there is never a point in which there is "nothing."

“Amor patriae.”

Since: Feb 08

Eastern Oregon

#63854 Aug 19, 2012
KittenKoder wrote:
<quoted text>
You need to catch up. Scientifically there is never a point in which there is "nothing."
Really? What then does the "Big Bang Theory" address?

"According to the standard theory, our universe sprang into existence as "singularity" around 13.7 billion years ago. What is a "singularity" and where does it come from? Well, to be honest, we don't know for sure. Singularities are zones which defy our current understanding of physics."

“ecrasez l'infame”

Since: May 08

Atlanta, Georgia

#63855 Aug 19, 2012
mdbuilder wrote:
<quoted text>
"Believe" in reality?? Reality demonstrates that something out of nothing is manifestly impossible. Once science can show how this supposedly occurred, all possibilities are on the table.
You think reality demonstrates that some invisible supernatural sky magician **poofed** it all into existence. Where's YOUR proof?

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#63856 Aug 19, 2012
mdbuilder wrote:
<quoted text>
Really? What then does the "Big Bang Theory" address?
"According to the standard theory, our universe sprang into existence as "singularity" around 13.7 billion years ago. What is a "singularity" and where does it come from? Well, to be honest, we don't know for sure. Singularities are zones which defy our current understanding of physics."
You do not know much about where the expanding universe theory originated, it came about because they discovered the universe is expanding. Stars form from primeval gases condensing. Planets form from material left over from dead stars. All this points to specific elements in the expanding universe. Based on the calculations of the expansion there was a point in which everything was a small mass of something. That small mass of something is what they call the singularity. So all evidence points to there being a singularity at the beginning of the universe.

Next question which you have not thought out or studied well, please, these easy ones are kind of fun.

“Amor patriae.”

Since: Feb 08

Eastern Oregon

#63857 Aug 19, 2012
Hedonist wrote:
<quoted text>
You think reality demonstrates that some invisible supernatural sky magician **poofed** it all into existence. Where's YOUR proof?
There lies the dichotomy. In the final analysis, both trains of thought are based on belief.

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#63858 Aug 19, 2012
mdbuilder wrote:
<quoted text>
There lies the dichotomy. In the final analysis, both trains of thought are based on belief.
No, atheism is not a belief it is a lack of belief. Unless you are referring to science in which case it's a demonstrable belief, meaning it works for everyone. You god is not demonstrable and works differently for everyone, therefore it is an irrational belief.

“Amor patriae.”

Since: Feb 08

Eastern Oregon

#63859 Aug 19, 2012
KittenKoder wrote:
<quoted text>
You do not know much about where the expanding universe theory originated, it came about because they discovered the universe is expanding. Stars form from primeval gases condensing. Planets form from material left over from dead stars. All this points to specific elements in the expanding universe. Based on the calculations of the expansion there was a point in which everything was a small mass of something. That small mass of something is what they call the singularity. So all evidence points to there being a singularity at the beginning of the universe.
Next question which you have not thought out or studied well, please, these easy ones are kind of fun.
You know, smugness is a sign of conceit, and believe me, you have no reason to be conceited.
To this point in time, it's ALL theoretical.

“ecrasez l'infame”

Since: May 08

Atlanta, Georgia

#63860 Aug 19, 2012
mdbuilder wrote:
<quoted text>
There lies the dichotomy. In the final analysis, both trains of thought are based on belief.
Not true.

One (the scientifically based one) has some evidence to based a hypothesis on, methods for testing these various hypotheses, and the ability to be falsified.

The other is nothing more than made up nonsense based on wishful thinking and an egocentric desire for immortality.

“Amor patriae.”

Since: Feb 08

Eastern Oregon

#63861 Aug 19, 2012
Hedonist wrote:
<quoted text>
Not true.
One (the scientifically based one) has some evidence to based a hypothesis on, methods for testing these various hypotheses, and the ability to be falsified.
The other is nothing more than made up nonsense based on wishful thinking and an egocentric desire for immortality.
As you perpetually aggressive and caustic atheists love to spout, show me the proof. You believe the proof is out there, circumstantially, but not tangibly. Your faith is no different than a Christian's.

“ecrasez l'infame”

Since: May 08

Atlanta, Georgia

#63862 Aug 19, 2012
mdbuilder wrote:
<quoted text>
As you perpetually aggressive and caustic atheists love to spout, show me the proof. You believe the proof is out there, circumstantially, but not tangibly. Your faith is no different than a Christian's.
You are confusing atheism (which is skepticism as to claims of supernatural deities) with science (which is the pursuit of natural explanations for the observed working of nature). Pathetic.

However, to address your lack of knowledge of science, even if all science had was one slim little piece of evidence pointing to a singularity event, it would be mountains more evidence than any magical **poof**.

And, in fact, science has red shift, and CMBR, and countless other pieces of evidence.

“Amor patriae.”

Since: Feb 08

Eastern Oregon

#63863 Aug 19, 2012
Hedonist wrote:
<quoted text>...and countless other pieces of evidence.
LOL. Circumstantial. All you add to the argument is tedium.

“ecrasez l'infame”

Since: May 08

Atlanta, Georgia

#63864 Aug 19, 2012
mdbuilder wrote:
<quoted text>
LOL. Circumstantial. All you add to the argument is tedium.
Yes, facts can be tdious.

Thus far, you've broght nothing to the discussion but poorly conceived mythology.

“Amor patriae.”

Since: Feb 08

Eastern Oregon

#63865 Aug 19, 2012
Hedonist wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes, facts can be tdious.
Thus far, you've broght nothing to the discussion but poorly conceived mythology.
Nor will I. If I had all the answers, you'd be worshiping me.
John

United States

#63866 Aug 19, 2012
Unbelievable. For three years this forum about nothing has refused to provide one iota of evidence they hold others accountable to. Not a single intellectual coward could muster an accountable position vs a prime mover. The most logical, rational, evidence backed position continues to be that a prime mover is responsible for the universe.

It's not enough to be bigots, they like to go a step further and bastardize science. That Christian scientific method sure is useful LOL.

The lengths an antitheist will go to fight a God they don't believe in is astounding. Nothing is a tough sell only the most gullible fall prey to.

Nothing Bless

Since: Mar 11

United States

#63867 Aug 20, 2012
This God is impossible.

Thank you for admitting that.
mdbuilder wrote:
<quoted text>"Believe" in reality?? Reality demonstrates that something out of nothing is manifestly impossible. Once science can show how this supposedly occurred, all possibilities are on the table.

Since: Mar 11

United States

#63868 Aug 20, 2012
I see John is still unable to answer my yes or no question making me the victor and stumping him.

Stump a Theist as them if they believe in reality.

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