Obama gets it wrong, bayonets still used in the military

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During tonight's final presidential debate, Gov. Mitt Romney and President Barack Obama sparred over the likely defense budget sequestration scheduled to happen later this year.

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downhill246

Boca Raton, FL

#1682 Nov 20, 2012
Mykro wrote:
<quoted text>Romnesia is what all you birther nuts suffer from.
The Democratic base is made up largely of parasitic freeloaders that support the Obamanation and his bag of government goodies.

Since: Jul 12

Chester, VA

#1683 Nov 20, 2012
downhill246 wrote:
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More importantly, if Obama applied for foreign aid for his education from the US how could he do so if he was still a US citizen? If he 'intended' to remain a US citizen and applied for aid as a foreign student, wouldn't that constitute fraud on his part? Hmm...
Retired U.S.Postal Worker Allen Hulton recently signed a sworn affidavit for the Maricopa County, Arizona Cold Case Posse convened by Sheriff Joe Arpaio, attesting under oath, to conversations with Mary Ayers, the mother of Bill Ayers. He made his testimony public in a three hour long taped interviewed on March 19th, 2012. Mr. Hutton, by signing an affidavit has subjected himself to laws regarding perjury, not something to be taken lightly as telling the truth is now for him a requirement of law.
His testimony states Mary and Tom Ayers, parents of the former Weather Underground terrorist William Ayers, were sponsoring Barack Obama as a foreign student, and financially supporting his education. Ayers and Obama later worked together in the Annenberg Challenge Project in Chicago as well as the Woods Fund of Chicago.
If Hulton is correct, and Obama was introduced to Hulton as a Foreign Student, this means Barack Hussein Obama would have been using a Foreign Passport from a nation that does not have dual citizenship to get and prove his foreign student status for entrance into Occidental College, Columbia, and later Harvard Universities. Because Hulton has signed an Affidavit, this cannot be disregarded as mere hearsay; it is instead evidentiary in nature.
Take the Ayers to jail and start charging them today.

BTW: If the school thought Obama had committed fraud it would certainly be within their rights to persue it, would it not?
t clms

Victoria, Canada

#1684 Nov 20, 2012
downhill246 wrote:
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Parasitic nutcase.
American corporation/s...
t clms

Victoria, Canada

#1685 Nov 20, 2012
Mykrodick wrote:
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Not too bright leftist slug
destroys Republican thinking.....
t clms

Victoria, Canada

#1686 Nov 20, 2012
downhill246 wrote:
<quoted text>
The Democratic base is made up largely of parasitic freeloaders that support the Obamanation and his bag of government goodies.
Ha Ha Republicans... you thought it was your bag of goodies to give to Wall Street, Military Corporations, and Rich Taxpayers. Too bad their billion dollar negative advertisements didn't work.
What is your next plan... Destroy the economy....???

The problem is that your freeloaders cost more money than a few social programs do..

American Socialism.. Rob the poor and give to the Rich.....

Oh, are Republicans the class warfare party..??

It is obvious you are!!
OH NO You Did not

Rancho Cucamonga, CA

#1687 Nov 20, 2012
Mykro wrote:
<quoted text>Romnesia is what all you birther nuts suffer from.
Hey, Romney lost and you liberals can stop blaming him for all Obama's faults. And maybe when Obama is out of government he can stop blaming Bush for all his faults and problems.
Eric Gustafson

Newport News, VA

#1688 Nov 20, 2012
Gull Chit!

From the link you posted! http://www.ehow.com/how_5663456_lose-citizens...

"the law ensures that nothing short of court-tried treason and self-renunciation can result in the loss of citizenship. To lose citizenship, you must self-renounce voluntarily in a formal ceremony, in writing or in a self-aware act."

Citizenship in America is a birth-right. You are forever a citizen of the United States until you formally write a request to renounce your American citizenship.

What don't you understand?

Reading is fundamental!
downhill246 wrote:
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You are still missing the point. Any American citizen can lose his citizenship under certain circumstances.
How to Lose Citizenship in the U.S.
Make an oath of allegiance to a foreign nation in which the oath requires you to denounce your American citizenship. The United States allows its citizens to hold dual nationalities with any nation---that is, an American does not have to give up her citizenship if she becomes a citizenship of, say, Brazil, which, incidentally, allows dual nationality. However, other countries, such as Spain, do not allow dual nationalities. If an American were to naturalize and take an oath of Spanish citizenship, he would automatically, through required renunciation on voluntary acceptance of Spanish citizenship, lose his American citizenship. In cases where you must renounce your American citizenship in order to gain another, you voluntarily accept citizenship of that country and therefore voluntarily renounce that of the United States.
http://www.ehow.com/how_5663456_lose-citizens...
Indonesia, like Spain, does not allow dual citizenship. An Indonesian passport is proof of Indonesian citizenship and to become a naturalized Indonesian citizen one must renounce any other citizenship.
Eric Gustafson

Newport News, VA

#1689 Nov 20, 2012
You don't have any concept or knowledge of Indonesia Citizenship Law.

Why would a child renounce his citizenship, he's not old enough to make that determination, and further more, Indonesia nor Spain for that matter dictates citizenship laws in America.
downhill246 wrote:
<quoted text>
You are still missing the point. Any American citizen can lose his citizenship under certain circumstances.
How to Lose Citizenship in the U.S.
Make an oath of allegiance to a foreign nation in which the oath requires you to denounce your American citizenship. The United States allows its citizens to hold dual nationalities with any nation---that is, an American does not have to give up her citizenship if she becomes a citizenship of, say, Brazil, which, incidentally, allows dual nationality. However, other countries, such as Spain, do not allow dual nationalities. If an American were to naturalize and take an oath of Spanish citizenship, he would automatically, through required renunciation on voluntary acceptance of Spanish citizenship, lose his American citizenship. In cases where you must renounce your American citizenship in order to gain another, you voluntarily accept citizenship of that country and therefore voluntarily renounce that of the United States.
http://www.ehow.com/how_5663456_lose-citizens...
Indonesia, like Spain, does not allow dual citizenship. An Indonesian passport is proof of Indonesian citizenship and to become a naturalized Indonesian citizen one must renounce any other citizenship.
Eric Gustafson

Newport News, VA

#1690 Nov 20, 2012
okb2 wrote:
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You just don't get it. It does not matter if lies were told to the Indonesian's. They are not in charge of US citizenship. Was the intent to become an Indonesian citizen or was the intent to lose US Citizenship?
Lets not forger the FACT that your whole theory is based on a song and prayer with nothing of substance to back you up.
By the Citizenship mandate in Indonesia Obama's mother marrying an Indonesia Man grants Obama citizenship on a limited status as a child of the Woman, born in America until the age of 18 at the time.

This guy hasn't a clue about anything related to Indonesia.
Eric Gustafson

Newport News, VA

#1691 Nov 20, 2012
downhill246 wrote:
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Was he forced to become an Indonesian citizen or was he forced to keep his Indonesian citizenship after he became 18 years of age or did he "intend" to keep his Indonesian citizenship which requires renouncing his US citizenship? Just how much "intent" is required to penetrate the bozone surrounding your head? Bozone is the substance surrounding ignorant people that stops bright ideas from penetrating.
He didn't have a say in that matter, his mother married an Indonesian, in Indonesia, citizenship follows the Male, Obama was granted limited Citizenship by virtue of the marriage until the age of 18 upon which the limited citizenship is automatically revoked.

There is nothing in Indonesia law accepted as Law in America, and has no affect on American Citizenship with in America is a Birth-right that can only be renounced by written statement by the Individual of mature age. In America children can't sign legal documents.

This doesn't have to be explained to any one with average intelligence. Nor is this a winning argument in de-legitimizing Obama as the President of the United States.

This is Stooge Talk,

Since: Feb 08

Hypoluxo Fl

#1692 Nov 20, 2012
downhill246 wrote:
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The Democratic base is made up largely of parasitic freeloaders that support the Obamanation and his bag of government goodies.
Birther nut.

Since: Feb 08

Hypoluxo Fl

#1693 Nov 20, 2012
OH NO You Did not wrote:
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Hey, Romney lost and you liberals can stop blaming him for all Obama's faults. And maybe when Obama is out of government he can stop blaming Bush for all his faults and problems.
I'm not blaming Mitt for Obama's faults you frightwingnut. I'm blaming him for his own faults. And so are a lot of his Republican cronies. Pyush said 'we have to stop being the party of stupid'. Are you ready to stop being stupid?

Since: Feb 11

Location hidden

#1694 Nov 20, 2012
downhill246 wrote:
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You are still missing the point. Any American citizen can lose his citizenship under certain circumstances.
Even Palin laughs at birthers.

Since: Feb 11

Location hidden

#1695 Nov 20, 2012
Eric Gustafson wrote:
To lose citizenship, you must self-renounce voluntarily in a formal ceremony, in writing or in a self-aware act.">
Dong licker is trying to draw you into a hypothetical situation so he can continue to fling his monkey poo at the POTUS.

I am curious as to the circumstances where Mitt Romney ran away to France when avoiding the draft in the US. Did he swear allegiance to France?

Certainly, there is as much support behind Romney's apparent defection and renouncing of his American citizenship as there is Obama's- and of course, by coming back to the US after the danger of being drafted was over, his flip flopping on the citizenship question was a precursor of political behavior to come.
OH NO You Did not

Rancho Cucamonga, CA

#1696 Nov 20, 2012
Mykro wrote:
<quoted text>I'm not blaming Mitt for Obama's faults you frightwingnut. I'm blaming him for his own faults. And so are a lot of his Republican cronies. Pyush said 'we have to stop being the party of stupid'. Are you ready to stop being stupid?
Hey, Romney lost and you liberals can stop blaming him for all Obama's faults. And maybe when Obama is out of government he can stop blaming Bush for all his faults and problems. lol Nah, I doubt that Obama will ever take responsibility for his actions as seen by his past performances. BTW, name calling and hate all you liberals have. SO sad!

Since: Jul 12

Chester, VA

#1697 Nov 21, 2012
OH NO You Did not wrote:
<quoted text>
Hey, Romney lost and you liberals can stop blaming him for all Obama's faults. And maybe when Obama is out of government he can stop blaming Bush for all his faults and problems. lol Nah, I doubt that Obama will ever take responsibility for his actions as seen by his past performances. BTW, name calling and hate all you liberals have. SO sad!
What is sad is apparently this is the best you have.

Since: Feb 08

Hypoluxo Fl

#1698 Nov 21, 2012
OH NO You Did not wrote:
<quoted text>
Hey, Romney lost and you liberals can stop blaming him for all Obama's faults. And maybe when Obama is out of government he can stop blaming Bush for all his faults and problems. lol Nah, I doubt that Obama will ever take responsibility for his actions as seen by his past performances. BTW, name calling and hate all you liberals have. SO sad!
Name calling? One of your own called you the 'party of stupid', stupid.
downhill246

Boca Raton, FL

#1700 Nov 24, 2012
okb2 wrote:
<quoted text>
Take the Ayers to jail and start charging them today.
BTW: If the school thought Obama had committed fraud it would certainly be within their rights to persue it, would it not?


Why ? It is government money and the more the merrier.
downhill246

Boca Raton, FL

#1701 Nov 24, 2012
t clms wrote:
<quoted text>
destroys Republican thinking.....
....that leftist slug actually had a brain.
downhill246

Boca Raton, FL

#1702 Nov 24, 2012
t clms wrote:
<quoted text>
Ha Ha Republicans... you thought it was your bag of goodies to give to Wall Street, Military Corporations, and Rich Taxpayers. Too bad their billion dollar negative advertisements didn't work.
What is your next plan... Destroy the economy....???
The problem is that your freeloaders cost more money than a few social programs do..
American Socialism.. Rob the poor and give to the Rich.....
Oh, are Republicans the class warfare party..??
It is obvious you are!!
Destroy the economy ?? Lol

We have Barack Obama and he doesn't need any help in destroying the economy.

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