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Maryland Gay Marriage Could Hinge on Black Churches

There are 9653 comments on the The Skanner story from Mar 1, 2012, titled Maryland Gay Marriage Could Hinge on Black Churches. In it, The Skanner reports that:

With Maryland poised to legalize gay marriage, some conservative opponents and religious leaders are counting on members of their congregations, especially in black churches, to upend the legislation at the polls this fall.

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#9524 Dec 31, 2012
Wakanatabi wrote:
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Are you this insecure all week???
Are they teaching the little kiddies sexual positions?
No.
They're advising kids some families have 2 daddies.
Big whoop.
Chill out loser and find another hobby than getting an aneurysm on a non-issue.
In Internet slang, a troll is someone who posts inflammatory,[1] extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community, such as a forum, chat room, or blog, with the primary intent of provoking readers into an emotional response[2] or of otherwise disrupting normal on-topic discussion.

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#9525 Dec 31, 2012
WaterBoarder wrote:
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In Internet slang, a troll (pron.:/&#712;tro&#650 ;l/,/&#712;tr&#594;l/) is someone who posts inflammatory,[1] extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community, such as a forum, chat room, or blog, with the primary intent of provoking readers into an emotional response[2] or of otherwise disrupting normal on-topic discussion.
Am I getting you all whizzed up with my opinion?

You're probably more bent than a wolverine having a clydesdale stallion take a 3 gallon leak on his head during a cold morning.

Too bad.

BTW....trolls don't give opinons.

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Littleton, NH

#9526 Dec 31, 2012
WaterBoarder wrote:
The schools are not teaching tolerance...they are trying to PERSUADE these children to believe as they do. That is the opposite of tolerance.
Actually, they're not persuading children of anything. They're merely presenting facts about the world that the children see about them. My school taught about birth control, too. That was not a value judgment.

You know, you and the rest of the people who are afraid of having our stories told in public are more cowardly than the lion in Wizard of Oz. You are afraid that, presented with facts about sexuality, you will not be able to impress your attitude of superiority over others on to your children. And you should be afraid. You won't. The facts simply don't support your arguments, and your children will see right through it.

But you needn't really be afraid. You could choose to embrace all your friends, neighbors, and co-workers instead. And you could make it your goal to support them in every way you can, not to try to knock the chair out from under the ones you dislike.

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Littleton, NH

#9527 Dec 31, 2012
WaterBoarder wrote:
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You got me. I am just a closet case. I am suppressing my raging homosexual feelings. Actually, sometimes when these feelings come up I just feel like going out and beating up gays.
Aren't we all like that?
Puhleeease!!
No. You're just a pervert. Everytime you see two gay men together, your mind goes straight to what they do with each other in the bedroom. That makes you a pervert. You'll have to tell us whether it makes you gay or not. I really don't care. There are gay perverts and straight perverts. All I know is you're a pervert and you're vocal about it.

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#9528 Dec 31, 2012
WaterBoarder wrote:
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As far as home schooling...thanks but no thanks. I pay taxes too and we all must live in a society that we share. I simply ask that my beliefs not be discriminated against and my life not be interfered with. The school can stay out of this issue and leave it up to our families and communities.
And please don't invoke "Brown". There are no equivalencies here.
If your beliefs include stifling freedoms of others then home school the sad little DNA examples of yourself you lovingly call your children.

If your beliefs think that algebra is persuading your kids to build bombs or a class on sexuality is making them into homosexuals then home school the poor little bastards you and your wife popped out.

Public schools are for educating kids about the world around them genius. If you want their vision of the world to be limited foil your home windows, throw away the computer and TV and keep the little munchkins you call your offspring in the house given the public isn't too keen about having their kids be given the imited view of the world you'd want.

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#9529 Dec 31, 2012
WaterBoarder wrote:
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In Internet slang, a troll is someone who posts inflammatory,[1] extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community, such as a forum, chat room, or blog, with the primary intent of provoking readers into an emotional response[2] or of otherwise disrupting normal on-topic discussion.
Err.....my posts are 1) On topic and 2) Everyone can read them despite your goofed up hissy fits.

LOL!!!

There's nothing wrong with teaching kids there is a segment of society that is gay and they do have famiilies of their own little man.

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#9530 Dec 31, 2012
WaterBoarder wrote:
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Uh oh...I must have struck a nerve. Making too much sense?
The schools don't teach "heterosexuality". There is no program aimed a such a thing. But I have linked repeatedly to curriculum aimed at teaching our youngest of children about homosexuality. See the difference?
I did PROVE that your marriage affects my family by how it changes our culture and what will be taught to my children in public schools if your friends continue with their agenda. I am not blaming all gays for this agenda. I am just pointing out that it exists and its not just about you and your rights.
And "black kids integrated into white schools"? What the hell are you talking about? I simply don't want the public schools teaching my kids a view on sexuality that I disagree with. Its not about YOU or any other gay person. Its about MY kids and MY family.
Actually, yea they do more than you know.....in fact every where we look.....Heterosexuality is being displayed as right, from the match.com and eharmony commercials, to the Viagra and Cialis advertisements, to how people perceive those who are different.......so, yes......our daily lives are inundated with how wonderful heterosexuality is.....and frankly, I don't care......but don't ya think that it's just as important to show the same thing with regards to Gays and Lesbians who are a part of society, working, paying taxes and so many other day to day activities that show them as regular everyday people? You make it sound as though being Gay or Lesbian is wrong, degrading or just perverted and if you had your way, that's probably how you'd like kids to be taught, right? See, what you're truly afraid of is the fact that Gays and Lesbians are just like you and any other straight person......and that's bad because then you have some unjustified fear that they will somehow become Gay or Lesbian, which is just a fallacy on your part. See, being Gay or Lesbian is as innate as being straight is........and the funny thing is......KIDS know that!!!

Sorry, but unless you keep your kids in a vacuum......they already know more about Gays and Lesbians than you want them to.....and they aren't being taught about the sexuality aspect of being Gay or Lesbian, but about the fact that Gays and Lesbians are a part of society and have been so since the beginning of time!!!

And again......my marriage doesn't affect you or your family......just like your marriage and family don't affect me!!!

Now, I've tried to explain things to you, but all you care about are your views and your way of life......well, then my suggestion to you is......move someplace where you are not surrounded by ANYONE that you don't specifically approve of.....then you can have ABSOLUTE control over yourself and your family.....Peace to you and yours......seems you're going to need it!!!

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Littleton, NH

#9531 Dec 31, 2012
WaterBoarder wrote:
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Uh oh...I must have struck a nerve. Making too much sense?
The schools don't teach "heterosexuality". There is no program aimed a such a thing. But I have linked repeatedly to curriculum aimed at teaching our youngest of children about homosexuality. See the difference?
I did PROVE that your marriage affects my family by how it changes our culture and what will be taught to my children in public schools if your friends continue with their agenda. I am not blaming all gays for this agenda. I am just pointing out that it exists and its not just about you and your rights.
And "black kids integrated into white schools"? What the hell are you talking about? I simply don't want the public schools teaching my kids a view on sexuality that I disagree with. Its not about YOU or any other gay person. Its about MY kids and MY family.
Yes, you're right. It's ALL about YOU! The gay kids in the class don't matter to you. The kids with gay parents don't matter to you. The kids who love their gay aunt or uncle don't matter to you. All you care about is that you get to tell your kids who's good and who's bad. And the schools better not provide an actual information that the children could use to make up their own minds.

Really, I am constantly amazed by how badly parents underestimate children's ability to comprehend and assess. When a parent says they need to protect their child's innocense, they usually mean that they--as parents--can't deal with it. But the fact is that it's very simple and the child can deal with it better than the parents.

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#9532 Dec 31, 2012
WaterBoarder wrote:
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So this means that if you are "homosexual" its okay but if you are "heterosexual" then its not?
But below you say "homosexual" didn't even exist yet.
This is why I keep saying you guys are throwing stuff against the wall hoping something will stick.
The Bible is clear and consistent on this issue. "Do not" means "do not". How you feel about it doesn't come into play. That is just more nonsense.
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This is one of the best ones. This is the "but the Bible doesn't condemn gay sex in a loving, committed relationship" argument.
True. It never mentions the feelings at all. It just says don't do it.
And the Bible "instances of same-sex emotional intimacy"? That is so absurd I dare not even address it! Are we talking about David and Jonathon here? Maybe...and a very BIG maybe...some sexual line was crossed in one verse. Again...maybe! But celebrated?!?
I think you need to realize that posting a quote from another person does not make a real argument. Please stop!
Gays and gay activists know that their biggest obstacle to gaining favor in the public's eye is religious doctrine. Specifically, the Bible. So somehow...someway...they are going to get that Book to say what the want!
Yet after all the "analysis" and discussion we still open up our Bibles and the words are still there! That must be so frustrating for you guys!
The word "homosexual" did not exist. Yet clearly, there were people who we today would call "homosexual" as well as those we would call "bisexual" and "heterosexual". They did not have that language nor conceptualization at the time.

They also had pagan fertility ritual sex. Not a common practice today, but was common at various times and places during the time of Jesus and long before. Some of the words that have been mistranslated make it clear they were talking about pagan ritual sex, not committed relationships based on mutual love and respect: "I Cor 6:9, no way refers to homosexuality. The original Greek word often quoted as sexual immorality, Paul used was "porneia" which means "a harlot for hire".

And you are correct that most gay equal rights supporters recognize the only remaining obstacle to legal equality remains a few mistranslated and misinterpreted bible verses. And yes, it id frustrating knowing when you open your bible and see those mistranslations and misinterpretations you still use them to justify causing needless harm and to ignore the Golden Rule.

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#9533 Dec 31, 2012
(correction) And yes, it is frustrating knowing when you open your bible and see those mistranslations and misinterpretations you still use them to justify causing needless harm and to ignore the Golden Rule.

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#9534 Dec 31, 2012
Polygamy and brother/sister incest marriage are illegal in many states; same sex marriage is legal in EVERY state, even though very few states license same sex unions.

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#9535 Dec 31, 2012
nhjeff wrote:
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Actually, they're not persuading children of anything. They're merely presenting facts about the world that the children see about them.
Well we are just going to have to agree to disagree there Jeff.

But can you explain why they need to "present the facts" each year about gay relationships to children as young as kindergarten with a targeted curriculum?

Why do they need to present these facts? Simply to "educate" about the world? Why so young? Social studies doesn't start for years.

Come on Jeff. You are a smart guy and I know you see the goal here. It is to help these little ones accept homosexuals in our society.

Denying something so obvious just makes you appear disingenuous.

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#9536 Dec 31, 2012
Brian_G wrote:
Polygamy and brother/sister incest marriage are illegal in many states; same sex marriage is legal in EVERY state, even though very few states license same sex unions.
No point again I see.

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#9537 Dec 31, 2012
nhjeff wrote:
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No. You're just a pervert. Everytime you see two gay men together, your mind goes straight to what they do with each other in the bedroom. That makes you a pervert. You'll have to tell us whether it makes you gay or not. I really don't care. There are gay perverts and straight perverts. All I know is you're a pervert and you're vocal about it.
Actually Jeff when I see two men together I tend to look away. That is what you folks call the "Eww factor" and it is something your friends actively seek to change.

Perhaps if I got some of this new grade school training that has come out lately I would have been "cured" of this affliction.

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#9538 Dec 31, 2012
WaterBoarder wrote:
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Well we are just going to have to agree to disagree there Jeff.
But can you explain why they need to "present the facts" each year about gay relationships to children as young as kindergarten with a targeted curriculum?
Why do they need to present these facts? Simply to "educate" about the world? Why so young? Social studies doesn't start for years.
Come on Jeff. You are a smart guy and I know you see the goal here. It is to help these little ones accept homosexuals in our society.
Denying something so obvious just makes you appear disingenuous.
I like your soft approach towards this subject.

Given your numerous past posts in which you hammered gays by giving them your intent hatred of them this post looks a little like Hitler escorting a train load of Jewish kids into the gas chamber by gently escorting them off the platform.

LOL!!!

If kindergardners can be given facts of life they can understand at an early age is bad then let's just not potty train them until they're 13 years old you moron.

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#9539 Dec 31, 2012
WaterBoarder wrote:
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Actually Jeff when I see two men together I tend to look away. That is what you folks call the "Eww factor" and it is something your friends actively seek to change.
Perhaps if I got some of this new grade school training that has come out lately I would have been "cured" of this affliction.
You need to be cured of mor than that in my opinion.

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#9540 Dec 31, 2012
nhjeff wrote:
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Yes, you're right. It's ALL about YOU! The gay kids in the class don't matter to you. The kids with gay parents don't matter to you. The kids who love their gay aunt or uncle don't matter to you. All you care about is that you get to tell your kids who's good and who's bad. And the schools better not provide an actual information that the children could use to make up their own minds.
Really, I am constantly amazed by how badly parents underestimate children's ability to comprehend and assess. When a parent says they need to protect their child's innocense, they usually mean that they--as parents--can't deal with it. But the fact is that it's very simple and the child can deal with it better than the parents.
No Jeff they do matter. They matter greatly. That is why I am all for gay teachers not being discriminated against. I am all for a zero tolerance anti-bullying policy. That is why I have taught my children the real Christian response to gay classmates (John 8:1-11) which is to protect and stick up for them.

What I am against is the schools teaching my kids their views on sexuality and sexual morality. That is not education. Yes, the schools should demand everyone respect one another. And the schools have every right to manage my each child's behavior while at school.

But that is not what the curriculum does or is aimed at. It seeks to teach our youngest of children a particular view of sexuality and it does it with or without parental consent.

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#9541 Dec 31, 2012
WaterBoarder wrote:
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No Jeff they do matter. They matter greatly. That is why I am all for gay teachers not being discriminated against. I am all for a zero tolerance anti-bullying policy. That is why I have taught my children the real Christian response to gay classmates (John 8:1-11) which is to protect and stick up for them.
What I am against is the schools teaching my kids their views on sexuality and sexual morality. That is not education. Yes, the schools should demand everyone respect one another. And the schools have every right to manage my each child's behavior while at school.
But that is not what the curriculum does or is aimed at. It seeks to teach our youngest of children a particular view of sexuality and it does it with or without parental consent.
Don't lie. It paints you the fool especially when everyone can read those documents.

All that program did was do advise kiddies there are other forms of sexuality out there.

Big wahoo.

If WaterBoarder Junior grows older and starts getting chubbies in his 11th grade chemistry class the fact he knew about gays at a much younger age through school isn't going to point his dick in any other direction than he wants so your fears are baseless.

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#9542 Dec 31, 2012
nhjeff wrote:
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Yes, you're right. It's ALL about YOU! The gay kids in the class don't matter to you. The kids with gay parents don't matter to you. The kids who love their gay aunt or uncle don't matter to you. All you care about is that you get to tell your kids who's good and who's bad. And the schools better not provide an actual information that the children could use to make up their own minds.
Really, I am constantly amazed by how badly parents underestimate children's ability to comprehend and assess. When a parent says they need to protect their child's innocense, they usually mean that they--as parents--can't deal with it. But the fact is that it's very simple and the child can deal with it better than the parents.
Awesome post........I wish I had come across in the same manner:-)

Happy New Year to you and yours.....may it be bright and prosperous:-)

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#9543 Dec 31, 2012
WaterBoarder wrote:
What I am against is the schools teaching my kids their views on sexuality and sexual morality. That is not education.
I don't believe ANY school is teaching about sexuality or sexual morality as you claim.........and looking at your link doesn't show that either!!!

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