Who still takes global warming seriou...

Who still takes global warming seriously?

There are 30922 comments on the Farmington Daily Times story from Jan 28, 2010, titled Who still takes global warming seriously?. In it, Farmington Daily Times reports that:

Despite the recent discovery of the e-mails that resulted in "Climate Gate" and the fact this has been one of the coldest and harshest winters in many years, Gov.

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“Live and let live”

Since: Apr 08

New Orleans

#31894 Apr 5, 2013
SpaceBlues wrote:
The "data" guy does not have science, it appears here .. He could be a programmer, who's not able to write papers ... but misunderstands the scientists easily.
And which science does he want to discuss? LOL.
You don't know anything about me.

“Live and let live”

Since: Apr 08

New Orleans

#31895 Apr 5, 2013
tha Professor wrote:
<quoted text>
I'm just not seeing much "doomsaying" among scientists, that's all.
http://m.phys.org/news/2012-04-first-ever-sim...

No I wasn't saying scientists were doomsaying. I think people can adapt in ways to live sustainably with the help of current and eventual technologies.
SpaceBlues

Houston, TX

#31896 Apr 5, 2013
Josh in New Orleans wrote:
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You don't know anything about me.
True.

I read what you posted.
SpaceBlues

Houston, TX

#31897 Apr 5, 2013
Josh in New Orleans wrote:
<quoted text>
http://m.phys.org/news/2012-04-first-ever-sim...
No I wasn't saying scientists were doomsaying. I think people can adapt in ways to live sustainably with the help of current and eventual technologies.
You oversell what you post.

Your link isn't relevant.
SpaceBlues

Houston, TX

#31898 Apr 5, 2013
Something relevant? The global mean level of the oceans is one of the most important indicators of climate change. It incorporates the reactions from several different components of the climate system.

http://www.aviso.oceanobs.com/en/news/ocean-i...

“Live and let live”

Since: Apr 08

New Orleans

#31899 Apr 5, 2013
By catastrophic, I mean ocean acidification, and that could threaten to collapse marine ecosystems globally. The oceans absorb about a quarter of the carbon dioxide emitted by humans each year, and the reaction with sea water produces carbonic acid. After so long as the oceans acidify, plankton will no longer be able to build their shells faster than its gone. Threatening a mass extinction of plankton would quite possibly collapse marine ecosystems worldwide.

“Live and let live”

Since: Apr 08

New Orleans

#31900 Apr 5, 2013
SpaceBlues wrote:
<quoted text>
You oversell what you post.
Your link isn't relevant.
The link was an accident.

“Live and let live”

Since: Apr 08

New Orleans

#31901 Apr 5, 2013
SpaceBlues wrote:
Something relevant? The global mean level of the oceans is one of the most important indicators of climate change. It incorporates the reactions from several different components of the climate system.
http://www.aviso.oceanobs.com/en/news/ocean-i...
Thanks for the link. Observational data helps ensure the accuracy of a model and improves it over time. Having calculated the slope and progressed the equation, sophisticated models such as this help reduce the margins of error, but it also highlights my previous point. Had the model not accounted for regional differences, then it would skew the slope showing sea-level rise. There is much to account for.

“CO2 is Gaseous Love”

Since: Dec 08

Home, sweet home.

#31902 Apr 5, 2013
Experimental tests verify a model accurately reflects reality. When an airplane manufacturer models a new wing design, they use computer models, then scale wind tunnel models and finally flight tests. That's solid science.

No climate model has been verified by atmospheric tests; that's how you can know man made global warming alarmism is pseudoscience and climate change mitigation is a hoax.

“Live and let live”

Since: Apr 08

New Orleans

#31903 Apr 5, 2013
Brian_G wrote:
Experimental tests verify a model accurately reflects reality. When an airplane manufacturer models a new wing design, they use computer models, then scale wind tunnel models and finally flight tests. That's solid science.
No climate model has been verified by atmospheric tests; that's how you can know man made global warming alarmism is pseudoscience and climate change mitigation is a hoax.
Okay, you say something I agree with, and then something I completely disagree with. The predictions models supply are useful data, within constraint.

“CO2 is Gaseous Love”

Since: Dec 08

Home, sweet home.

#31904 Apr 5, 2013
Prediction is descriptive science, mitigation isn't, it requires experiments to verify theory. You can't verify a prediction in advance of the event but you can verify a policy, procedure or device with experiments.

If you can find a compelling experiment for climate change mitigation, please post. I haven't found any, that's why I believe climate change mitigation is a hoax.

“Live and let live”

Since: Apr 08

New Orleans

#31905 Apr 6, 2013
Brian_G wrote:
Prediction is descriptive science, mitigation isn't, it requires experiments to verify theory. You can't verify a prediction in advance of the event but you can verify a policy, procedure or device with experiments.
If you can find a compelling experiment for climate change mitigation, please post. I haven't found any, that's why I believe climate change mitigation is a hoax.
So you're basically saying that because we can't find mitigation efforts that work, then why even try? Based in what you just said, unless it's proven 100% before attempting mitigation, then such activities are a no-go. Right? Wrong, recognize there is a problem, take real-word measurements that define it, and then attempt mitigation, rinse and repeat.
litesong

Lynnwood, WA

#31906 Apr 6, 2013
brian_g stumble butt dumpster diver wrote:
tha Professor has lost track of this thread.....
With errors of 1 million TIMES, 1000 TIMES, 3000 TIMES & 73 million TIMES, "brian_g stumble butt dumpster diver" never had a track on anything scientific.
litesong

Lynnwood, WA

#31907 Apr 6, 2013
josh in need of education wrote:
I did not say that science "is as low down guilty".
josh in need of education wrote:
A climate alarmist is as guilty of unscientific thought as is a complete denier.
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litesong wrote:
If an AGW scientist says something that slimy toxic AGW deniers don't like, that scientist becomes an AGW alarmist to slimy toxic AGW deniers.
gcaveman1

Bay Springs, MS

#31908 Apr 7, 2013
Josh in New Orleans wrote:
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So you're basically saying that because we can't find mitigation efforts that work, then why even try? Based in what you just said, unless it's proven 100% before attempting mitigation, then such activities are a no-go. Right? Wrong, recognize there is a problem, take real-word measurements that define it, and then attempt mitigation, rinse and repeat.
He is saying that since mitigation is a hoax, AGW/climate change is a hoax.

He rejects all the science in his quest for an experiment. He has been shown experiments, data, observations...all kinds of evidence. But a denier can't be convinced, especially a paid one.

You want him to lose his job?

“CO2 is Gaseous Love”

Since: Dec 08

Home, sweet home.

#31909 Apr 7, 2013
Josh in New Orleans wrote:
So you're basically saying that because we can't find mitigation efforts that work, then why even try?
I'd recommend holding off until they've done the experimental work; that's my plan. You may do whatever you wish, nobody is stopping you from sequestering carbon from the atmosphere and I'll thank you not taxing my energy and fuel use.

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Josh in New Orleans wrote:
Based in what you just said, unless it's proven 100% before attempting mitigation, then such activities are a no-go. Right?
Again, you may do whatever you please. Don't you have enough research institutions and universities to do the experimental work? Don't blame me for your failures. I don't believe man made CO2 is significant to climate but if you want to prove me wrong, go ahead and show the peer reviewed experimental data.

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Josh in New Orleans wrote:
Wrong, recognize there is a problem, take real-word measurements that define it, and then attempt mitigation, rinse and repeat.
Say no to superstition and irrationality. Don't buy a pig in a poke. If there are no experimental results to point at and say, this is what we must do and that is how it will work, wait.

We've always adapted to climate change, why switch resources to climate change mitigation now?
SpaceBlues

Houston, TX

#31910 Apr 7, 2013
Denier hoax is to treat climate science as foreign.

“Live and let live”

Since: Apr 08

New Orleans

#31911 Apr 7, 2013
SpaceBlues wrote:
Denier hoax is to treat climate science as foreign.
Thanks for the info. I think you might have misinterpreted me earlier.
SpaceBlues

Houston, TX

#31912 Apr 7, 2013
Josh in New Orleans wrote:
<quoted text>
Thanks for the info. I think you might have misinterpreted me earlier.
You are welcome.

No, I did not misinterpret your posts earlier. As we agreed, I don't know you.

“Stop the Brain Rot”

Since: Jan 12

Take a Looonng Vacation

#31913 Apr 8, 2013
Brian_G wrote:
<quoted text>tha Professor has lost track of this thread, it's based on a letter to the editor of the Daily Times that chasisties [sic] government for the bad policy of climate change mitigation. I'll quote the letter here:
...EDITED....Go back to page one if you think this thread has nothing to do with climate change mitigation. I thought we were passed [sic] that, but tha Professor needs a review.
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<quoted text>^^^If you can't keep up, you can always call your opponents names like "troll". It's not a rational response, but I understand if that's all they [sic] have.
In fact the letter, merely a starting point for the thread, spent MOST of its time ranting about whether warming is real, whether it's human-caused, and what the "climategate" e-mails meant in terms of a consensus about warming. It's a political post and as the title suggests, it implies that warming ITSELF cannot be taken seriously.

I'm not sure how you managaged to get the subject of the letter (and therefore the thread) SO wrong, but you did. I suspect that you merely distorted the issue to justify your unending blather about "global warming mitigation," virtually your ONLY subject of posting no matter WHICH thread you post on.

I've dismissed you as a troll because you ARE one. You have one subject, you rail about it ad nauseam and ad infinitum, and you constantly try to threadjack discussions which don't involve "mitigation." That's trollish behavior whether you like it or not, and trying to prject the blame onto me only further illustrates your own disingenuity and dishonesty.

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