Ron Paul on the Verge of Going Third ...

Ron Paul on the Verge of Going Third Party?

There are 29315 comments on the National Ledger story from Jan 12, 2008, titled Ron Paul on the Verge of Going Third Party?. In it, National Ledger reports that:

Rep. Ron Paul's 1988 Libertarian Presidential campaign started with great promise: A former four-term Republican US Congressman running on the ticket of America's third largest party. via National Ledger

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UIdiotRACEMAKEWO RLDPEACE

United States

#30219 Oct 17, 2013
LocalBoy wrote:
<quoted text>Perspective, IO
Looking out my window is not for finding problems or their causes. It is for planning the fix, refining the plan.
Spontaneous order as a solution, IO.......planning causes seems backwards....just sayin
Oh yea they fixing the plan!:)

I contemplating you had introduce a Nice red herring. Bahahhahahaa
UIdiotRACEMAKEWO RLDPEACE

United States

#30220 Oct 17, 2013
EASY MONEY wrote:
Well! All of my worries are over, for now. I was afraid that I was going to have to cut back on my Jack Daniels and girlfriends, but those clowns in Congress have saved the day. Now fire them all, for being stupid in the first place!
Watch out Sexual transmit diseases and Alcholism ... you moral fiber as human being had been in rut grunter. Get out of your rut, Sex, rock and roll... you make me puke. Bahahahahahaaa
UIdiotRACEMAKEWO RLDPEACE

United States

#30221 Oct 17, 2013
Bill R wrote:
<quoted text>
Localboy, it is actually kind of funny because the federal
government can't seem to manage a two-car funeral, let alone
micromanage an economy or a political landscape. For gosh sakes,
they had years (literally) to put together a website to allow
people to sign up for Obamacare and couldn't get the job done.
The 14 states who chose to go it alone have done it far better
than the "professionals." In my world the people responsible would
be fired. But that won't happen in this instance.
How long did it take insurance company "A" to produce a website
for enrolling with their company? How long did it take e-Harmony
or Christian Mingles to come up with theirs? Years??? My son, who
works for an international corporation, could do it in less than
two weeks and be drawn and quartered for taking so long.
The fact of the matter is that the federal government is now a
victim of its own propensity to micromanage and fill thousands of
empty pages with meaningless detail. Obamacare, an abomination
at 2,500 pages never read, now exceeds 30Xs more explanations and
rules. The POTUS has been given authority to make them as needed
and it goes along without challenge.
In my view it will collapse under its own weight because no one
will be able to make a decision. The same applies to the rules
and regs regarding surveillance.
Is worst to come? What next? Anything good you see in our America today? Who put it right the , your tea PArty goers or Repububliecans?

ABhahahahaa
EASY MONEY

Bangkok, Thailand

#30222 Oct 18, 2013
UIdiotRACEMAKEWORLDPEACE wrote:
<quoted text>Watch out Sexual transmit diseases and Alcholism ... you moral fiber as human being had been in rut grunter. Get out of your rut, Sex, rock and roll... you make me puke. Bahahahahahaaa
When you you reach 80 and you live in Thailand, you no longer give two figs about sexual transmitted disease, alcholism or morals. Trust me, all you really care about is being able to put two feet on the floor in the morning. And after that, it's where in the hell did I hide that Viagra so the wife wouldn't find it.
It will be sex, booze and rock and roll until I check out and to hell with what anyone thinks.
LocalBoy

Indianapolis, IN

#30223 Oct 18, 2013
EASY MONEY wrote:
<quoted text>
When you you reach 80 and you live in Thailand, you no longer give two figs about sexual transmitted disease, alcholism or morals. Trust me, all you really care about is being able to put two feet on the floor in the morning. And after that, it's where in the hell did I hide that Viagra so the wife wouldn't find it.
It will be sex, booze and rock and roll until I check out and to hell with what anyone thinks.
At my age it is sex, drugs and rock n roll....
I get it, Easy

Cant stand drinking and I am spoiled in my own home, but....

Cheers !
LocalBoy

Indianapolis, IN

#30224 Oct 18, 2013
UIdiotRACEMAKEWORLDPEACE wrote:
<quoted text> Is worst to come? What next? Anything good you see in our America today? Who put it right the , your tea PArty goers or Repububliecans?
ABhahahahaa
The best of America is found on Mainstreet, not TV
EASY MONEY

Bangkok, Thailand

#30225 Oct 18, 2013
LocalBoy wrote:
<quoted text>At my age it is sex, drugs and rock n roll....
I get it, Easy
Cant stand drinking and I am spoiled in my own home, but....
Cheers !
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =JpfuCWHe5hsXX
Stay spoiled, you'll live a hell of a lot longer and be happier. I was under the gun for so many years that when I got it pretty much figured out what living was all about, I was in my 50's, damn near missed the boat.
Say! who do you think will be the Rep. main man come next year? Don't see a hell of a lot out there.

LocalBoy

Indianapolis, IN

#30226 Oct 18, 2013
EASY MONEY wrote:
<quoted text>
Stay spoiled, you'll live a hell of a lot longer and be happier. I was under the gun for so many years that when I got it pretty much figured out what living was all about, I was in my 50's, damn near missed the boat.
Say! who do you think will be the Rep. main man come next year? Don't see a hell of a lot out there.
Jeb Bush either winning nomination or being placed on ticket as VP.
I see a fractured party, could be ripe for a Governor to emerge late similar to Clinton and Carter. Unfortunately my Governor could be a dark horse - Mike Pence

Ryan / Christie / Jindahl / Rubio are all distractions. Rand Paul and his group will not be accepted by the establishment, how they deal with him will be important.

At the end of the day The Who gets it right, again
Meet the new boss, same as the old boss

What gives with all these changes in the Strategic Nuclear Command structure ? Looks like a purge
LocalBoy

Indianapolis, IN

#30227 Oct 18, 2013
UIdiotRACEMAKEWORLDPEACE wrote:
<quoted text>Oh yea they fixing the plan!:)
I contemplating you had introduce a Nice red herring. Bahahhahahaa
IO, Glass-Steagall is not good law. It is a function of money and credit from thin air. The partial overturn is not good but the root cause is beyond both.

Codification of Industry - Go back to Roosevelts stacked court. With the new court the big change was ruling codification of industry to be unconstitutional......except one. The proper regulatory scheme is to de-codify banking and medicine. Dig into the old court decisions post stacked court.......

Schecter v US is a good starting point....keep digging
EASY MONEY

Bangkok, Thailand

#30228 Oct 18, 2013
LocalBoy wrote:
<quoted text>Jeb Bush either winning nomination or being placed on ticket as VP.
I see a fractured party, could be ripe for a Governor to emerge late similar to Clinton and Carter. Unfortunately my Governor could be a dark horse - Mike Pence
Ryan / Christie / Jindahl / Rubio are all distractions. Rand Paul and his group will not be accepted by the establishment, how they deal with him will be important.
At the end of the day The Who gets it right, again
Meet the new boss, same as the old boss
What gives with all these changes in the Strategic Nuclear Command structure ? Looks like a purge
I agree it does look like a purge, but it's through out the whole military complex. Seem like if there is some doubt about what or where their loyalities are to the liberal socialist front, top brass are being replaced. That also applies to those that are field grade and above. Dempsey is a political kiss ass and wouldn't make a pimple on a good corporals ass, damn sure no war time general. Gererals today are worthless political wantabes, only looking out for their next star.
Bill R

Halsey, OR

#30229 Oct 23, 2013
UIdiotRACEMAKEWORLDPEACE wrote:
<quoted text> Is worst to come? What next? Anything good you see in our America today? Who put it right the , your tea PArty goers or Repububliecans?
ABhahahahaa
Would you dare to even suggest that the worst is behind us,IO?
That would be the height of foolishness. We are on a spiral
downward politically, economically, and socially. To believe
otherwise is delusional at best.

I have no allegiance whatsoever to the so-called Tea Party move-
ment and believe that most people in the middle ... independents
... will grow tired of the shrill, almost hysterical tone of
their message. Sadly, some good points will be lost because of
the shrillness and tone of their message. People as a whole
would like to see a return of civility in public discourse and
have grown weary of the "dialogue."

Dissent.

That is what is needed. Millions of Americans, for example, are
going to opt out of the ACA (a misnomer if there ever was one),
which will leave the entire system to collapse. Young adults
will chose to gamble they will not need it. They also resist
authority and will simply opt out altogether.

Dissent. It will bring the system to its knees.
Bill R

Halsey, OR

#30230 Oct 23, 2013
UIdiotRACEMAKEWORLDPEACE wrote:
<quoted text>Watch out Sexual transmit diseases and Alcholism ... you moral fiber as human being had been in rut grunter. Get out of your rut, Sex, rock and roll... you make me puke. Bahahahahahaaa
It isn't Easy Money causing you to puke, Bubba, its the stench
of the subways and alleys of NYC that make you sick. Been there,
seen it, smelled it.

Bwaahahahhah ....... etc.
EASY MONEY

Bangkok, Thailand

#30231 Oct 23, 2013
Can you all believe that McCain is thinking about running again? I swear that he must have walked under a coconut tree and the whole bunch fell off and landed on his head. What in the hell is wrong with that old fool? He needs to go to the farm and feed the chickens and get the hell out of the Republican party. He for sure gets more stupid each and every time he opens his mouth. Getting to be just as bad as the half-breed.
Bill R

Halsey, OR

#30232 Oct 23, 2013
EASY MONEY wrote:
Can you all believe that McCain is thinking about running again? I swear that he must have walked under a coconut tree and the whole bunch fell off and landed on his head. What in the hell is wrong with that old fool? He needs to go to the farm and feed the chickens and get the hell out of the Republican party. He for sure gets more stupid each and every time he opens his mouth. Getting to be just as bad as the half-breed.
McCain knows his odds of being returned to the Senate are about
96% in his favor. It takes almost a turn of nature to unseat a
sitting member of the House or Senate, so you can expect a
dribbling-at-the-mouth McCain back again even though he seems to
me to be showing evidence of senility. There is a kind of semi-
vacant look in his eyes. He is now living for his imagined
"legacy," not for the people.
Bill R

Halsey, OR

#30233 Oct 23, 2013
Speaking strictly as an analyst and no more, I
give Chris Christie the edge for the Republican
nomination when the time comes, as no other Re-
publican (in name) has demonstrated an ability to
secure the necessary support in any blue state,
particularly out of the South. Right or wrong,
appeal from the Northeast and Left Coast matters.
His competitors are at this point lightweights
without the support of the MSM and financial
centers.

Now, that being said, I am in agreement with
Localboy that Tom Pence (his darkhorse) offers
a nice choice ... a great choice ... because he
is conservative and from a state with political
weight.
EASY MONEY

Bangkok, Thailand

#30234 Oct 23, 2013
Bill R wrote:
Speaking strictly as an analyst and no more, I
give Chris Christie the edge for the Republican
nomination when the time comes, as no other Re-
publican (in name) has demonstrated an ability to
secure the necessary support in any blue state,
particularly out of the South. Right or wrong,
appeal from the Northeast and Left Coast matters.
His competitors are at this point lightweights
without the support of the MSM and financial
centers.
Now, that being said, I am in agreement with
Localboy that Tom Pence (his darkhorse) offers
a nice choice ... a great choice ... because he
is conservative and from a state with political
weight.
Not sold on Christie, he reminds me too much of a Thai politican, they all bend with the wind, and his meeting with the half-breed doesn't sit well with me.
I haven't seen one word here about Pence, nothing! But whoever, they better start to get a grip on who they plan on running.
Bill R

Halsey, OR

#30235 Oct 24, 2013
EASY MONEY wrote:
<quoted text>
Not sold on Christie, he reminds me too much of a Thai politican, they all bend with the wind, and his meeting with the half-breed doesn't sit well with me.
I haven't seen one word here about Pence, nothing! But whoever, they better start to get a grip on who they plan on running.
I'm not selling him, but I have high regard for his readiness
to speak or act and let the chips fall wear they may. That is
refreshing given the tendency of most politicians of either party
to either follow the party line or deny their genuine beliefs
with hogwash. I have not lived in the Garden State for many
years, but I have a certain admiration for Christie's willingness
to take the flak for decisions unpopular with the hard Right.

What most people overlook is the fact that he has been able to
confront and defeat a Democrat machine filled with corruption
(both political and crime syndicate-based) without apology. The
unions and crime syndicates largely control New Jersey and he
has been able to secure concessions from the unions. There is
a Truman-like "the buck stops here" attitude I admire. He has
shown himself capable of governance.

I understand lots of conservatives note his walking side-by-side
moments with Obama during the campaign, but it seems inconsistent
for conservatives to snub their noses at him when they were
anything but supportive of Romney themselves.

That being said, I cannot endorse or support Christie until I
know a whole lot more about his positions on an abundance of
issues ... international and domestic. I am distrustful of his
tendency to stage photo events. I will need to know much, much
more, so for the present I'll punt and let things evolve.
Bill R

Halsey, OR

#30237 Oct 28, 2013
Amazing ..,.

Didn't know anything about what happened in
Benghazi ....

Didn't know about Fast and Furious ....

Didn't know about IRS abuses of power ....

Didn't know that Obamacare was a disaster before
its web pages opened ....

Didn't know that millions would lose their
medical coverage or that millions would face
dramatic increases ....

Didn't know that millions of phone calls and other
forms of communications were being intercepted by
the Fed ....

Didn't know we were literally spying on our
purported allies ....

But ...

he remains in power without so much as threat of
impeachment.

Wow.

I do know this: if as a relatively low level
corporate executive I exhibited such dereliction
of oath and duty I would have been summarily
fired.

But tomorrow Obama will speak and act as if nothing
happened for which holds responsibility.
Bill R

Halsey, OR

#30238 Oct 28, 2013
My good friends, years ago I posted that in reality
the career folks in Washington D.C. are the ones
running the show and that exactly who occupies the White House or Congress is immaterial to their
goals and purposes. They are the immovable govern-
ment, in place without the consent of the governed
and care nothing about who is in power, whether it
be Obama or Hillary or whoever else might win an
election. "They" are career folk in place, not at
all subject to your approval or mine. IRS, NSA,
Pentagon, FBI, State Department and more ... they
are the people at the wheel. Obama (or anyone else, for that matter) is a fool to believe otherwise.

I'll pass on the temptation to pointing out that
a key executive at CGI, owner of the no-bid contract for constructing the Obamacare website
AND the distribution of billions to Sandy Hook
residents was a classmate of Michelle Obama.

No MSM mention of this ..........
UIDIOTRACEMAKEWO RLDPEACE

United States

#30239 Nov 7, 2013
anyone home?\

ABhahahhhhaaaaa

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