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Ron Paul on the Verge of Going Third Party?

There are 29307 comments on the National Ledger story from Jan 12, 2008, titled Ron Paul on the Verge of Going Third Party?. In it, National Ledger reports that:

Rep. Ron Paul's 1988 Libertarian Presidential campaign started with great promise: A former four-term Republican US Congressman running on the ticket of America's third largest party. via National Ledger

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EASY MONEY

Taphan Hin, Thailand

#29628 Feb 28, 2013
Crazy n Nutty Politics wrote:
Oh..btw..don't call my ass to help you when the bees start stinging your ass for poking them in the first place.
I don't poke, I destroy! The only way to rid oneself of vermin is to eliminate them all, by any means that you can use.
Not in a good state of mind, my old drinking pal of 45 years bought the farm. At least his problems are at last over.
Crazy n Nutty Politics

North Miami Beach, FL

#29629 Mar 1, 2013
EASY MONEY wrote:
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I don't poke, I destroy! The only way to rid oneself of vermin is to eliminate them all, by any means that you can use.
Not in a good state of mind, my old drinking pal of 45 years bought the farm. At least his problems are at last over.
Lol, You know that's why I like you..We might disagree on international politics but hey, Im still living here.
EASY MONEY

Bangkok, Thailand

#29630 Mar 1, 2013
Hey here's an example of the right hand not knowing what the left hand is doing. That fat dyke bitch that runs Homeland Security doesn't know who authorized the release of the illegals. Can you believe that, she doesn't know, and she's the boss. 2000 illegals set free and she doesn't know why. Just how ate up is that shit?
Just par for the liberal socialist Washington agenda, being led by a half-breed incompetent.
Steve

San Francisco, CA

#29631 Mar 1, 2013
Crazy n Nutty Politics wrote:
OMG..I just figured out how to avoid sequester AND BALANCE THE BUDGET!!!...End funding for all 3 letter agencies..end foreign aid..end the war..end tax loopholes for all corporations that ship jobs overseas, tax the hell out of imports from China..and there you got it!
Ok,..reality..do nothing..don't cut the aid, don't cut the military..start more unfunded needless wars, keep printing money and screw the American People...oh btw..keep trampling on the Constitution. Not..
You kind of surprised me with your suggestion to raise taxes and tariffs. I thought you'd be against that. Raising tariffs on Chinese goods might tick them off, and we can't really tick them off because they own us, literally.
I don't think Rubio has a chance, but I don't think Paul has a chance either. Rand Paul's a little bit different than his father on some issues, too, and much less likable. I like Huntsman, and I like Jindal, who's a very smart guy. Jindal has said some good things about the GOP needing to stop being the party of stupid.
Steve

San Francisco, CA

#29632 Mar 1, 2013
Crazy n Nutty Politics wrote:
News...The msm states scalia said voting rights act is a perpetuation of racial entitlement..umm so is affirmative action..duh
and then questions why senators would vote for it..hint..because it's political suicide not to.
Can you imagine Al Sharpton and all of the race baiters having to live life by merit and not preferential status..
What has this country become?
What's your opinion about the section of the Voting Rights Act which mandates voting in different languages? I was surprised that there was no controvery about that when it came up for renewal a few year ago. A lot of conservatives are big on "English only."
EASY MONEY

Bangkok, Thailand

#29633 Mar 2, 2013
Steve wrote:
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What's your opinion about the section of the Voting Rights Act which mandates voting in different languages? I was surprised that there was no controvery about that when it came up for renewal a few year ago. A lot of conservatives are big on "English only."
For me there should only one language on anything that the federal, state, or city governments require citizens to perform on any document, including voting, that's American English.
Crazy n Nutty Politics

North Miami Beach, FL

#29634 Mar 2, 2013
Steve wrote:
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You kind of surprised me with your suggestion to raise taxes and tariffs. I thought you'd be against that. Raising tariffs on Chinese goods might tick them off, and we can't really tick them off because they own us, literally.
I don't think Rubio has a chance, but I don't think Paul has a chance either. Rand Paul's a little bit different than his father on some issues, too, and much less likable. I like Huntsman, and I like Jindal, who's a very smart guy. Jindal has said some good things about the GOP needing to stop being the party of stupid.
First off Steve, we don't have free and fair trade. We never did. These commie bastards De-valuate their currency, debase the market and cause havoc round the world with their blatant piracy of our intellectual property.. Donald Trump was right on these issues, but we are too kiss ass to piss them off.

As far as Rand..he's better than Rubio who just finished kissing his water bottle sold out but doing his tour of Israel on our tax payers money. I'm sure he got the AIPAC endorsement..:) <sarcasm intended>

In another light..what do you think about Christie getting booted from CPAC??..I mean don't these people know what Conservatism is anymore?..This guy is good, knows how to work, he's bipartisan and he get's the job done! Plus, I like his ballsy attitude..Get the job done kind of guy..WTF is wrong with this country?
Crazy n Nutty Politics

North Miami Beach, FL

#29635 Mar 2, 2013
As a Conservative Libertarian I don't see anything in the Constitution which states we should have tax payer voting ballots in any specific language. I'm not a lawyer though..but I suspect that states might have a right to mandate it in any of the 500 languages there are in the world.

I give it to Easy on this one.

(However, Unless you want to pay out of your pocket for the additional languages you want on the ballot)
Steve

San Francisco, CA

#29636 Mar 2, 2013
Crazy n Nutty Politics wrote:
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First off Steve, we don't have free and fair trade. We never did. These commie bastards De-valuate their currency, debase the market and cause havoc round the world with their blatant piracy of our intellectual property.. Donald Trump was right on these issues, but we are too kiss ass to piss them off.
As far as Rand..he's better than Rubio who just finished kissing his water bottle sold out but doing his tour of Israel on our tax payers money. I'm sure he got the AIPAC endorsement..:) <sarcasm intended>
In another light..what do you think about Christie getting booted from CPAC??..I mean don't these people know what Conservatism is anymore?..This guy is good, knows how to work, he's bipartisan and he get's the job done! Plus, I like his ballsy attitude..Get the job done kind of guy..WTF is wrong with this country?
Thanks for reminding me about Christie. He has a shot at winning the nomination, too. I still think Hillary's going to be elected though, sadly.
drinK the Hive

Anonymous Proxy

#29637 Mar 2, 2013
I Look 2 The Future - Reluctantly - 4 It Will Decide My Fate...

gokkod

Rochester, PA

#29638 Mar 2, 2013
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Whats the price? good luck
Crazy n Nutty Politics

North Miami Beach, FL

#29639 Mar 3, 2013
Noooo...not Billary!! Steve...oh God..I'm going to move to Thailand with Easy,...

Look at this news flash..Romney has been invited to CPAC. As if he was a Conservative!

Yet, Chris Christie..a Conservative in my opinion (with a strong record) was denied..wtf is going on with the Conservative party...Jesus Christ People..wtf is wrong with our legislators...this is like Dr. Paul being denied a seat at the helm with him being his ultra conservative self...what the hell is going on???
Crazy n Nutty Politics

North Miami Beach, FL

#29641 Mar 5, 2013
I've finally realized why conservatives are no longer conservative. It's what I've always figured. They are old left wing Statist. They just want the power of the state to suit their own behalf.(especially when it comes to personal freedom) Good lord it took me a while to figure that they only want to promote their own personal view of the Great U.S. Constitution and so called liberty and freedom. Yet they restrict it on their on whim. omg..WHAT A REVELATION!

Since: Aug 11

Location hidden

#29642 Mar 5, 2013
Crazy n Nutty Politics wrote:
I've finally realized why conservatives are no longer conservative. It's what I've always figured. They are old left wing Statist. They just want the power of the state to suit their own behalf.(especially when it comes to personal freedom) Good lord it took me a while to figure that they only want to promote their own personal view of the Great U.S. Constitution and so called liberty and freedom. Yet they restrict it on their on whim. omg..WHAT A REVELATION!
Thats Right these Modern Conservatives are not Conservative at all but are the Old Left Wing Statist but are really considered Neo Cons which are left of the Classical Conservatives.

Many older neocons had been liberals in their youth and admired President Franklin D. Roosevelt, while younger neocons are more economically conservative than Roosevelt but like to downplay the social issues. In 2010 the highest priority of the neoconservatives was to increase military action by the United States in the Middle East and Afghanistan, and to expand it to an American confrontation against Iran; in 2011 their goals include supporting a military attack on Libya, continuing the Afghanistan War indefinitely, and even suggesting military action against Syria. There is a revolving door between some neocons and highly paid positions in the defense industry, which may explain the constant neoconservative demands for more wars.

http://www.conservapedia.com/Neoconservatism
EASY MONEY

Bangkok, Thailand

#29643 Mar 5, 2013
Anonymous of Indy wrote:
<quoted text>Thats Right these Modern Conservatives are not Conservative at all but are the Old Left Wing Statist but are really considered Neo Cons which are left of the Classical Conservatives.
Many older neocons had been liberals in their youth and admired President Franklin D. Roosevelt, while younger neocons are more economically conservative than Roosevelt but like to downplay the social issues. In 2010 the highest priority of the neoconservatives was to increase military action by the United States in the Middle East and Afghanistan, and to expand it to an American confrontation against Iran; in 2011 their goals include supporting a military attack on Libya, continuing the Afghanistan War indefinitely, and even suggesting military action against Syria. There is a revolving door between some neocons and highly paid positions in the defense industry, which may explain the constant neoconservative demands for more wars.
http://www.conservapedia.com/Neoconservatism
Good grief, what dribble, try not to take those last four hits before you try to engage your brain. Put the bong down you've lost it. And drop that Neocon bullshit.
EASY MONEY

Bangkok, Thailand

#29644 Mar 5, 2013
Crazy n Nutty Politics wrote:
I've finally realized why conservatives are no longer conservative. It's what I've always figured. They are old left wing Statist. They just want the power of the state to suit their own behalf.(especially when it comes to personal freedom) Good lord it took me a while to figure that they only want to promote their own personal view of the Great U.S. Constitution and so called liberty and freedom. Yet they restrict it on their on whim. omg..WHAT A REVELATION!
Hey, just watched Bill O'Reilly lose it in an interview with that P***Y Alan Combs. I just went to a cremation Mon. and the guy in the box going into the oven looked better than Combs, not only is he dead from the neck up but the rest doesn't look to good either. And he's as full of shit as a Christmas goose.
Just what do you think the USA will do if N. Korea revokes the cease fire agreement? And how can any person with a brain condone giving Egypt 250 mil, plus F-16 Jets. Damn Americans are getting dumber by the day. Impeach the bastard before the Chinese move into Washington and your all eating noodles.

Since: Aug 11

Location hidden

#29645 Mar 5, 2013
EASY MONEY wrote:
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Good grief, what dribble, try not to take those last four hits before you try to engage your brain. Put the bong down you've lost it. And drop that Neocon bullshit.
its not bullshit or dribble I believe you lost it besides all the Modern Conservatives are Neo Cons(FDR Liberals) and engage that brain then you will understand Classical conservatism vs Modern Conservatism prior to the 20th Century and understand Classical liberalism vs Modern Liberalism by understanding the difference between Classical Liberalism & Conservatism as a sociology vs Modern Conservatism & Liberalism as an Ideaology.

Classical Liberalism vs. Modern Liberalism and Modern Conservatism

Modern liberalism is not completely collectivist; nor is it completely individualistic. It has elements of both doctrines. The same is true of conservatism. Neither view provides a coherent approach to politics, built up from first principles. Instead, they both reflect a process that is akin to picking items from a dinner menu. What is chosen is a matter of taste rather than a matter of thought. Just as people with similar tastes in food tend to frequent the same restaurants, people with the same tastes in politics tend to vote for the same candidates.

http://www.ncpa.org/pub/classical-liberalism-...

Since: Aug 11

Location hidden

#29646 Mar 5, 2013
EASY MONEY wrote:
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Hey, just watched Bill O'Reilly lose it in an interview with that P***Y Alan Combs. I just went to a cremation Mon. and the guy in the box going into the oven looked better than Combs, not only is he dead from the neck up but the rest doesn't look to good either. And he's as full of shit as a Christmas goose.
Just what do you think the USA will do if N. Korea revokes the cease fire agreement? And how can any person with a brain condone giving Egypt 250 mil, plus F-16 Jets. Damn Americans are getting dumber by the day. Impeach the bastard before the Chinese move into Washington and your all eating noodles.
you mean Inside Edition with Bill O'Reilly just on Fox now.
EASY MONEY

Bangkok, Thailand

#29647 Mar 6, 2013
Anonymous of Indy wrote:
<quoted text>its not bullshit or dribble I believe you lost it besides all the Modern Conservatives are Neo Cons(FDR Liberals) and engage that brain then you will understand Classical conservatism vs Modern Conservatism prior to the 20th Century and understand Classical liberalism vs Modern Liberalism by understanding the difference between Classical Liberalism & Conservatism as a sociology vs Modern Conservatism & Liberalism as an Ideaology.
Classical Liberalism vs. Modern Liberalism and Modern Conservatism
Modern liberalism is not completely collectivist; nor is it completely individualistic. It has elements of both doctrines. The same is true of conservatism. Neither view provides a coherent approach to politics, built up from first principles. Instead, they both reflect a process that is akin to picking items from a dinner menu. What is chosen is a matter of taste rather than a matter of thought. Just as people with similar tastes in food tend to frequent the same restaurants, people with the same tastes in politics tend to vote for the same candidates.
http://www.ncpa.org/pub/classical-liberalism-...
Nobody, but nobody needs to study the differences between liberalism and modern conservatism. Unless you happen to have more time on your hands than the average person or your a tired school teacher at any level, and your trying to sell a book. So what you saying is, people vote for what they like, damn man, that's deep.
FDR died when I was in third or fourth grade, when I retired from the military I voted Republican, I still vote Republican and that is my choice. I am not a liberal, a socialist, or a Marxist all I want is for the money grubbing government to stay out of my pocket. So it makes no difference what you how or why you need to label anyone. Just don't give one cent of what I earned to anyone that doesn't work, or hasn't worked, don't pay for child care, don't give foreign aid to any country, no affirmitive action, no quotas, no civil rights because your a minority, if as an American you can't make it, check out, your worthless.
Instead of worrying about labels you might spend a little time trying to impeach that half-breed in Washington.
EASY MONEY

Bangkok, Thailand

#29648 Mar 6, 2013
Anonymous of Indy wrote:
<quoted text>you mean Inside Edition with Bill O'Reilly just on Fox now.
I think it was the Factor!

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