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Ron Paul on the Verge of Going Third Party?

There are 29308 comments on the National Ledger story from Jan 12, 2008, titled Ron Paul on the Verge of Going Third Party?. In it, National Ledger reports that:

Rep. Ron Paul's 1988 Libertarian Presidential campaign started with great promise: A former four-term Republican US Congressman running on the ticket of America's third largest party. via National Ledger

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UidiotRACEMAKEWO RLDPEACE

United States

#29449 Dec 10, 2012
I'd expected Billr Ad hominem for these few posts! Us has over 700 to 1000 US military located all over the world, what does that tell you , and this had incited growth of world of enemy(s) that want US out, ruining our US civil liberties, to the creation of Fascist US autocratic nations to bankrupting of US morally and financially , Billr is a another war mongering NeoCon imbecile who can't eve see straight what those mens in US corrupted Power is doing America and the world masses, illicit / US wars had put many war-torned childrens left parentless.. and here billr kowtows to evil and corrupted mens. You know no shame, you another hYPROCRITE . dID I PISS YOU OFF AGAIN !

haVE MANY HINEY MELON bILLR! bwhhahahahhaaA

BQHAHAHAHHAAHHAA
UidiotRACEMAKEWO RLDPEACE

United States

#29450 Dec 10, 2012
Bill R wrote:
<quoted text>
Amazing ... the absence of logic is astounding. A man says
something in 1948 and it somehow becomes ... what? Answer:
something a man said in 1948. Downright peculiar. Put down
the bong, would you?
(wAR CRIMINAL ) Dr. Henry Kissinger, who wrote: "Depopulation should be the highest priority of U.S. foreign policy towards the Third World."
UidiotRACEMAKEWO RLDPEACE

United States

#29451 Dec 11, 2012
http://www.youtube.com/watch...

kISSINGER - mEMORANDUM 200 - DEPOPULATION
UidiotRACEMAKEWO RLDPEACE

United States

#29452 Dec 11, 2012
Bill R wrote:
<quoted text>
There has never been a country called Palestine. Not
ever. None.
Fact: If Israel wanted what you imply they could simply
take it. Have you ever asked why they haven't?
oH , YES BUT PHILISTINE(ANCIENT NAME)= PALESTINE (mODERN nAME), YOU AHVE EVEN RESEARCH THIS!

BUT iSREAL AFRAID OF MANY OPPOSITIONS!
UidiotRACEMAKEWO RLDPEACE

United States

#29453 Dec 11, 2012
Bill R wrote:
<quoted text>
Thank you for illustrating my point regarding a UN vote
on a particular issue, not what you implied in your bogus
statement about "Cuba over U.S."
not Bogus ! Cuba had gotten many nations to supported them in effort to lift the obnoxious warring US Sanctions that is killing many people and childrens left malnourished. And the US have to pay heavy fine --- many hundred billion $ in reparation money to Cuba ! bwhhahhahhaaaaa ONE FOR THE WORLD HUMANITY! hOOORAY!
UidiotRACEMAKEWO RLDPEACE

United States

#29454 Dec 11, 2012
Bill R wrote:
<quoted text>
You have a problem with the U.S. supporting the "universal
aspirations of mankind .... based on shared principles and
the rule of law?" Gee, that sounds exactly what you have
been wanting rather than U.S. domination and imposing its
principles and laws and policies on the rest of the world.
Incidentally, once again you play with words and statements
like a fundamentalist preacher pulling up scripture verses
completely out of context in order to prove his point.
It is a game anyone can play, but you seem to think of it
as "research" or "intellect." It isn't.
Henry Kissinger Says Obama Must Create New World Order

Former Congresswoman Cynthia McKinney tipped us off to this statement by Henry Kissinger, asking “Why is he still calling the shots on U.S. foreign policy?”:
HENRY KISSINGER ,“The President-elect is coming into office at a moment when there are upheavals in many parts of the world simultaneously.... He can give a new impetus to American foreign policy, partly because the reception of him is so extraordinary around the world. I think his task will be to develop an overall strategy for America in this period when really a New World Order can be created. It’s a great opportunity…”
Listen and learn!
http://www.youtube.com/watch...
UidiotRACEMAKEWO RLDPEACE

United States

#29455 Dec 11, 2012
Americans Renouncing Citizenship at Record Levels to Protect Wealth

NEW YORK --– America's rich are renouncing their citizenship at record levels -- just to get richer.
Startling new data from Uncle Sam show that defections by Americans are expected to double this year, largely to avoid any stiff tax bills resulting from the proposed 55 percent hike on the rich, as well as the likely Dec. 31 expiration of the Bush-era tax cuts.

As many as 8,000 US citizens are projected by immigration officials to renounce in 2012, or about 154 a week, versus 3,805 in 2011, or about 73 per week.

"High-net-worth individuals are making decisions that having a US passport just isn't worth the cost anymore," according to Jim Duggan, a lawyer at Duggan Bertsch, which specializes in protecting assets of the wealthy. "They're able to do what they do from any place in the world, and they're choosing to do it from places with much lower tax rates."

http://latino.foxnews.com/latino/news/2012/06 ...
Crazy n Nutty Politics

North Miami Beach, FL

#29456 Dec 11, 2012
Gary wrote:
<quoted text>
Somalia is a collapsed state?
Give the Rand Paul morons half the chance and that's
just what America will be. A third world dystopia.
You can add Haiti to the mix.

BTW as if the 2/1 party system isn't doing us in already.

Don't worry, if Gary Johnson pulled in 1.8 million votes I'm sure we can reasonably elect a real republican who respects the Constitution instead of a RINO who will flip flop every chance he gets.
Bill R

Gig Harbor, WA

#29459 Dec 11, 2012
UidiotRACEMAKEWORLDPEACE wrote:
I'd expected Billr Ad hominem for these few posts! Us has over 700 to 1000 US military located all over the world, what does that tell you , and this had incited growth of world of enemy(s) that want US out, ruining our US civil liberties, to the creation of Fascist US autocratic nations to bankrupting of US morally and financially , Billr is a another war mongering NeoCon imbecile who can't eve see straight what those mens in US corrupted Power is doing America and the world masses, illicit / US wars had put many war-torned childrens left parentless.. and here billr kowtows to evil and corrupted mens. You know no shame, you another hYPROCRITE . dID I PISS YOU OFF AGAIN !
haVE MANY HINEY MELON bILLR! bwhhahahahhaaA
BQHAHAHAHHAAHHAA
No, Io, you don't "piss me off." You amuse me. You are
totally predictable because your research is biased from
the start. If Senator X said everyone should pee on their
breakfast you would claim that is U.S. policy.

Geez, come up with some new material.
Steve

San Francisco, CA

#29460 Dec 11, 2012
UidiotRaceMAKEWORLDPEACE wrote:
Rights for All
Amnesty International for Human Rights
There are only two countries in the world that have not ratified the Convention on the Rights of the Child. One is the collapsed state of Somalia which has no recognized government—the other is the USA. Despite the strength and achievements of the US women's movement, the USA is also one of only a handful of countries that have not ratified the Convention on the Elimination of All Forms of Discrimination against Women.
Would the elimination of discrimination against women apply to religious organizations or private clubs? If so, I can see why we wouldn't ratify it.
The Rights of the Child certainly sounds good on paper. I've never read it, but I've heard people complain that it could make spanking a criminal offense among other controversial things.
Steve

San Francisco, CA

#29461 Dec 11, 2012
The United States must always be careful when it ratifies international treaties. We want to be a responsible nation, but we don't want to lose our sovereignty either.

“UNLESS !!!!!!!”

Since: Nov 07

Location hidden

#29462 Dec 11, 2012
Yawn.....
Bill R

Lebanon, OR

#29463 Dec 12, 2012
Steve wrote:
<quoted text>
Would the elimination of discrimination against women apply to religious organizations or private clubs? If so, I can see why we wouldn't ratify it.
The Rights of the Child certainly sounds good on paper. I've never read it, but I've heard people complain that it could make spanking a criminal offense among other controversial things.
Steve, I fail to see the validity of any rule or law passed
by the United Nations as having the authority of trumping
the duly passed laws of the United States. We already have
problems when the federal government uses force in numerous
ways to impose its will upon the states. Having U.N. rules or
laws or resolutions imposed upon the American people without
their consent cannot be justified.

Beyond that, many of these high sounding U.N. regulations,
just like many bills presented to Congress, are given media
credibility merely by their titles. Ron Paul himself would
point out how often this is true and how in many instances
what they pretend to be is almost the opposite of its title,
but a clear violation of states and individual rights.

In the case of the rights of a child, for example, does this
include a prohibition of certain "medical" practices applied
to female children? If these Muslim countries voted for this
resolution, do they agree to cease the practice? I don't think
so, but it makes for good PR to support it. IO's touting it
here is good evidence of that.
Bill R

Lebanon, OR

#29464 Dec 12, 2012
LORAX wrote:
Yawn.....
Geez, Lorax, time for bed .......:-)
Bill R

Lebanon, OR

#29465 Dec 12, 2012
Steve wrote:
The United States must always be careful when it ratifies international treaties. We want to be a responsible nation, but we don't want to lose our sovereignty either.
I'd like to ask this question and get a response from
everyone:

Should any or all international treaties be subject to periodic
review or subject to a sunset rule?

Could or should this apply to NATO, SEATO, WW II conditions
of surrender, NAFTA?

What happens or should happen when a historic enemy of
democracy is received into a treaty organization and gains
access to security information?
Bill R

Lebanon, OR

#29466 Dec 12, 2012
Crazy n Nutty Politics wrote:
<quoted text>
You can add Haiti to the mix.
BTW as if the 2/1 party system isn't doing us in already.
Don't worry, if Gary Johnson pulled in 1.8 million votes I'm sure we can reasonably elect a real republican who respects the Constitution instead of a RINO who will flip flop every chance he gets.
CNP, literally hundreds of U.S. charitable organizations
(religious and secular) are literally keeping thousands upon
thousands of Haitians alive.

If the U.S. leaves all these people involved in countless
projects will be at risk because some other country will step
in and fill the void. Whoever that country is, will they
continue the work of the U.S. and its various organizations,
or will they use the opportunity for military purposes?
Sorry, IO, but the U.S. has no need of Haiti for military
purposes. Look at the freakin' map.

CNP, it should be be abundantly clear that "the people" do
not elect Republicans or Democrats .... they elect on the
basis of media presentation, control of information (ex.
Benghazi) at strategic times, and a sickening "what's in
it for me" attitude. I've yet to see anything coming from
the libertarian side that they can, on their own, make a
dime's worth of difference. 1,800,000 is nothing. It doesn't
measure and, quite honestly, probably half of those votes
were from the disaffected (understandably), but without any
deep knowledge of how a Gary Johnson administration would
affect them personally.
Steve

San Francisco, CA

#29467 Dec 12, 2012
Crazy n Nutty Politics wrote:
<quoted text>
You can add Haiti to the mix.
BTW as if the 2/1 party system isn't doing us in already.
Don't worry, if Gary Johnson pulled in 1.8 million votes I'm sure we can reasonably elect a real republican who respects the Constitution instead of a RINO who will flip flop every chance he gets.
May I ask who your ideal viable Republican candidate for president would be, and what would you hope he/she accomplishes as president?
UidiotRACEMAkeWO RLDPEACE

United States

#29468 Dec 12, 2012
Bill R wrote:
<quoted text>
No, Io, you don't "piss me off." You amuse me. You are
totally predictable because your research is biased from
the start. If Senator X said everyone should pee on their
breakfast you would claim that is U.S. policy.
Geez, come up with some new material.
cOME , USE YOU LITTLE LEFT LOBE, NOT JUST ONE SENATOR but others, those good one in power are not sold out to greed and money are coming out of the woodwork in telling Americans there is something wrong with our US govt .
Paul Craig Roberts [Assistant Secretary of the Treasury under Ronald Reagan (Served one term only , left because of US corruption) and former editor of the Wall Street Journal]

Americans no longer have a government that is for the people and by the people. They have a government for and by special interests and an insane ideology.
UidiotRACEMAkeWO RLDPEACE

United States

#29469 Dec 12, 2012
Bill R wrote:
<quoted text>
CNP, literally hundreds of U.S. charitable organizations
(religious and secular) are literally keeping thousands upon
thousands of Haitians alive.
If the U.S. leaves all these people involved in countless
projects will be at risk because some other country will step
in and fill the void. Whoever that country is, will they
continue the work of the U.S. and its various organizations,
or will they use the opportunity for military purposes?
Sorry, IO, but the U.S. has no need of Haiti for military
purposes. Look at the freakin' map.
CNP, it should be be abundantly clear that "the people" do
not elect Republicans or Democrats .... they elect on the
basis of media presentation, control of information (ex.
Benghazi) at strategic times, and a sickening "what's in
it for me" attitude. I've yet to see anything coming from
the libertarian side that they can, on their own, make a
dime's worth of difference. 1,800,000 is nothing. It doesn't
measure and, quite honestly, probably half of those votes
were from the disaffected (understandably), but without any
deep knowledge of how a Gary Johnson administration would
affect them personally.
U sure don't clue on why US is in Haiti because it a Strategic base into Latin America, and a lot US enterprises located on capital city of haiti --- US imperialism in Haiti for over century. Boy you really are educated fool with two master Degree ND WITH BRAIN OF wARMONGERING Neocon

Guess what over 80 nation meeting just this year of top diplomates and finance ministry and US is not invited and f wanting to join BUT had been kicked out and escorted away by military helicopter, you know why ? lets put you mASTER DEGREE OF HYPOCRITOCRACY TO WORK.

bHHAHAHHAHAAA

sOONER OR LATER YOU BE PISSED. bwhhaahaaaaaaaaaa
UidiotRACEMAkeWO RLDPEACE

United States

#29470 Dec 12, 2012
Bill R wrote:
<quoted text>
CNP, literally hundreds of U.S. charitable organizations
(religious and secular) are literally keeping thousands upon
thousands of Haitians alive.
If the U.S. leaves all these people involved in countless
projects will be at risk because some other country will step
in and fill the void. Whoever that country is, will they
continue the work of the U.S. and its various organizations,
or will they use the opportunity for military purposes?
Sorry, IO, but the U.S. has no need of Haiti for military
purposes. Look at the freakin' map.
CNP, it should be be abundantly clear that "the people" do
not elect Republicans or Democrats .... they elect on the
basis of media presentation, control of information (ex.
Benghazi) at strategic times, and a sickening "what's in
it for me" attitude. I've yet to see anything coming from
the libertarian side that they can, on their own, make a
dime's worth of difference. 1,800,000 is nothing. It doesn't
measure and, quite honestly, probably half of those votes
were from the disaffected (understandably), but without any
deep knowledge of how a Gary Johnson administration would
affect them personally.
tHEN WHY 98 PERCENT OF haTIAN PEOPLE STILL LIVE ON OR BELOW POVERTY LEVEL? AND US CENTURY OF mILITARY INVASIONS HAD NOT EVEN TAKEN 98% OF HATIAN PEOPLE OUT OF POVERTY AND INFRASTRUCTURE IS IN STONE AGE.

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