"Fox News Sunday" is heading to Louisville, Ky. Jack Conway, Kentucky's attorney general and the Democratic candidate for Senate , and Rand Paul, the Republican nominee and son of Representative Ron Paul, Republican of Texas, have agreed to a live debate on "Fox News Sunday" on Oct.3 at 9 a.m. (Eastern time).
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#79823 Feb 10, 2013
Poor lifeless headcheck drawing republicans up all night on the Internet posting to their "friends" cause the other republicans here ALL day EVERY day is all you lonely idiots have......
Sucks to be you.
How's that Ashley Judd working for you tools?? You all are so scared of her, she hasn't even announced she's running yet and the attack ads are already out.
You poor cowards. You don't deserve to be in this country. You weigh us down.
#79824 Feb 10, 2013
The republicans are probably waiting to see if Obama gets in front of a camera and says if he had a son he would look just like that murderous cop killer in California.
I am kind of waiting to see that also.
#79825 Feb 10, 2013
The lack of intelligence from republicans makes us all understand why you're losing elections and will continue to do so.
Thanks in advance for Hillary's election!
#79826 Feb 10, 2013
The Bush family and the Cheney family will never ever move to Iraq and Afghanistan because they know it is not safe.
They lost TWO WARS with the best military on earth.
BUSH DESTROYED THE REAGAN REPUBLICAN PARTY AND HE WILL TAKE ALL REPUBLICANS DOWN WITH HIM IN 2008!
General Speaks Out on Iraq
Mr. President, you did not listen, General Batiste says in new television advertisements being broadcast in Republican Congressional districts as part of a $500,000 campaign financed by http://www.votevets.org You continue to pursue a failed strategy that is breaking our great Army and Marine Corps. I left the Army in protest in order to speak out. Mr. President, you have placed our nation in peril. Our only hope is that Congress will act now to protect our fighting men and women.
'Supporting the troops' means withdrawing them
By General William E. Odom
July 05, 2007 http://tinyurl.com/yp28mg
Gen. William Odom writes that opponents of the war should focus public attention on the fact that Bushs obstinate refusal to admit defeat is causing the troops enormous psychological as well as physical harm.
Every step the Democrats in Congress have taken to force the withdrawal of U.S. forces from Iraq has failed. Time and again, President Bush beats them into submission with charges of failing to "support the troops."
Why do the Democrats allow this to happen? Because they let the president define what "supporting the troops" means. His definition is brutally misleading. Consider what his policies are doing to the troops.
No U.S. forces have ever been compelled to stay in sustained combat conditions for as long as the Army units have in Iraq. In World War II, soldiers were considered combat-exhausted after about 180 days in the line. They were withdrawn for rest periods.
Moreover, for weeks at a time, large sectors of the front were quiet, giving them time for both physical and psychological rehabilitation. During some periods of the Korean War, units had to fight steadily for fairly long periods but not for a year at a time. In Vietnam, tours were one year in length, and combat was intermittent with significant break periods.
Why Iraq Was a Mistake
By Lt. General GREGORY NEWBOLD, Retired
http://tinyurl.com/p4j93 Apr. 09, 2006
From 2000 until October 2002, I was a Marine Corps lieutenant general and director of operations for the Joint Chiefs of Staff. After 9/11, I was a witness and therefore a party to the actions that led us to the invasion of Iraq--an unnecessary war.
Inside the military family, I made no secret of my view that the zealots' rationale for war made no sense. And I think I was outspoken enough to make those senior to me uncomfortable.
But I now regret that I did not more openly challenge those who were determined to invade a country whose actions were peripheral to the real threat--al-Qaeda.
I retired from the military four months before the invasion, in part because of my opposition to those who had used 9/11's tragedy to hijack our security policy. Until now, I have resisted speaking out in public. I've been silent long enough.
#79827 Feb 10, 2013
General Eaton's Letter to President Bush on Veto
May 1, 2007 http://tinyurl.com/2umrln
Dear Mr. President,
Today, in your veto message regarding the bipartisan legislation just passed on Operation Iraqi Freedom, you asserted that you so decided because you listen to your commanders on the ground.
Respectfully, as your former commander on the ground, your administration did not listen to our best advice. In fact, a number of my fellow Generals were forced out of their jobs, because they did not tell you what you wanted to hear -- most notably General Eric Shinseki, whose foresight regarding troop levels was advice you rejected, at our troops' peril. http://securingamerica.com/ccn/node/11973
America's Angriest General John Batiste
http://tinyurl.com/2jjohc May 10, 2007
Retired two-star Army Gen. John Batiste is lashing out at the Bush war in Iraq in ads targeting key Republicans up for re-election in 2008. His offensive may change the rules regarding civilian-military relations.
"Mr. President, you did not listen," he says. "You continue to pursue a failed strategy that is breaking our Army and Marine Corps."
The ad is scheduled to air from May 10 to 18, targeting Republican Sens. Susan Collins (Maine), John Sununu (New Hampshire), John Warner (Virginia) and Norm Coleman (Minnesota), and 10 GOP House members, including Mary Bono, Phil English, Randy Kuhl, Jim Walsh and Heather Wilson.
“Hong Kong Phooey”
Since: Nov 12
So Far Out of this World
#79828 Feb 10, 2013
Probally the most intelligent comment made on this thread!!..LMAO!!
#79829 Feb 10, 2013
You really need to grow up and stop believing Lying Rightwing Propagandist like Limbaugh, Hannity, Rove, Drudge, and Sarah Palin.
Truth be told Obama is to the right of Republicans Eisenhower and Nixon.
P.S. Even Slick Willie was not a liberal.
Bill Clinton: The Great Deregulator
September 10, 2012 / http://tinyurl.com/culdhuu
Bill Clinton bears as much responsibility as any politician for the worst economic crisis since the Great Depression, and the wild applause for his disingenuous speech at the Democratic National Convention last week is a sure sign of the poverty of what passes for progressive politics.
Do those convention delegates, and the fawning media that were wowed by the former presidents rhetorical seductions, not recall that just before he left office Clinton signed off on the game-changing legislation that ended the sensible rules imposed on Wall Street during the Great Depression? It was Clinton who cooperated with the Republicans in reversing the legacy of FDRs New Deal, opening the floodgates of unfettered avarice that almost drowned the worlds economy during the reign of George W. Bush.
How convenient to ignore the Financial Services Modernization Act, which Clinton signed into law to summarily end the Glass-Steagall barrier against the commingling of investment and commercial banking. Do the Democrats not remember that Citigroup, the first too-big-to-fail bank made legal by the law Clinton signed, became the $15 million employer of Robert Rubin, the Clinton treasury secretary who led the fight for the law that legalized the creation of Citigroup? Or that Citigroupled by Sanford Weill, to whom Clinton gave one of the souvenir pens he used to approve that onerous legislationwent on to be a major player in the subprime mortgage swindles and had to be bailed out with more than $50 billion of taxpayer funds?
Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act of 1999
Bill Clinton and the Republicans did away with oversight.
President Bill Clinton signed this into law with 54 Republicans voting yes and 44 Democrats voting no./ http://tinyurl.com/5lwv6z
On the Conference Report (S.900 Conference Report )
Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act of 1999-Part 2
Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act of 1999-Part 1
#79831 Feb 10, 2013
Truth be told Ashley Judd will vote in the interest of Kentuckians.
(Mitch "Wall Street" and "K Street" McConnell) continues to vote in the interest of the wealthiest top 0.1% percentile WHO OWN HIM!
Mitch McConnell and Harry Reid are BOTH prostitutes.
#79840 Feb 10, 2013
No ones mentioned her running but you all.... I was just making you tools go into panic mode.
Karl Rove is already doing attack ads..... But we already know how credible that idiots is.
Is he going to claim ol Mitch the winner against Ashley Judd even if she doesn't run??
Guess you all understand that's why we call you all unstable nitwits.
Has this ever happened before?? A party in such a panic that they start attack ads before someone even announces they are going to run for office??
It's amazing how scared you people are taught to be
Koolaid drinking sheep. Heh
#79842 Feb 10, 2013
PROOF BEYOND ALL DOUBT THAT BUSH LIED ABOUT WMD'S INSIDE IRAQ:
THIS WILL ALL COME OUT WHEN 4 STAR MARINE GENERAL ANTHONY ZINNI SITS IN THE WITNESS CHAIR @ GEORGE W. BUSH'S IMPEACHMENT TRIAL:
READ IT AND WEEP!!!
Gen. Anthony Zinni, USMC,(Ret.) Remarks at CDI Board of Directors Dinner, May 12, 2004 http://tinyurl.com/8ldmo
I think the first mistake that was made was misjudging the success of containment. I heard the president say, not too long ago, I believe it was with the interview with Tim Russert that ... I'm not sure ... but at some point I heard him say that "containment did not work." That's not true.
So to say containment didn't work, I think is not only wrong from the experiences we had then, but the proof is in the pudding, in what kind of military our troops faced when we went in there.
The third mistake, I think was one we repeated from Vietnam, we had to create a false rationale for going in to get public support. The books were cooked, in my mind. The intelligence was not there. I testified before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee one month before the war, and Senator Lugar asked me: "General Zinni, do you feel the threat from Saddam Hussein is imminent?" I said: "No, not at all. It was not an imminent threat. Not even close. Not grave, gathering, imminent, serious, severe, mildly upsetting, none of those."
#79843 Feb 10, 2013
The Night of the Generals
April 2007 / http://tinyurl.com/yllqfpr
The six retired generals who stepped forward last spring to publicly attack Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld's handling of the Iraq war had to overcome a culture of reticence based on civilian control of the military. But while each man acted separately, all shared one experience: a growing outrage over the administration's incompetence, leading some of the nation's finest soldiers to risk their reputations and cross a time-honored line.
Lieutenant General Greg Newbold, former director of operations on the Joint Chiefs of Staff; retired from the Marines with three stars in 2002.
Major General Paul Eaton, West Point graduate; oversaw the creation of the new Iraqi Army until 2004. Retired with two stars in 2006
Major General John Batiste, former commander of the First Infantry Division; retired with two stars in November 2005.
Major General John Riggs, Vietnam veteran; headed army's Objective Force Task Force. Retired in April 2004 after losing one of his three stars
Major General Charles Swannack Jr., West Point graduate; commanded the 82nd Airborne in Iraq until 2004, making 153 jumps himself. Retired with two stars in 2004.
Lieutenant General Paul Van Riper, Vietnam veteran; retired as a Marine three-star in 1997. Served as a consultant to Rumsfeld's Pentagon
#79844 Feb 10, 2013
Fiscal conservatives and F.D. Roosevelt were against government insuring private bank savings.
It only materialized because it was promoted by moderate Republicans like Arthur Vandenburg and Populist Democrats like Henry Steagall.( Glass-Steagall.)
Today there are zero moderate Republicans and Obama and most Democrats are corporatist and not liberals.
#79845 Feb 10, 2013
Generals Speak Out Against Rumsfeld
DoD Determines US Foreign Policy, PERIOD!!! Congress is SUPERFLUOUS!!! The only thing to FEAR, is NOT ENOUGH FEAR.
"We went to war with a flawed plan that didn't account for the hard work to build the peace after we took down the regime. We also served under a secretary of defense who didn't understand leadership, who was abusive, who was arrogant, who didn't build a strong team."
-- Retired Army Maj. Gen. John Batiste.
"My sincere view is that the commitment of our forces to this fight was done with a casualness and swagger that are the special province of those who have never had to execute these missions -- or bury the results."
-- Retired Marine Lt. Gen. Gregory Newbold.
"They only need the military advice when it satisfies their agenda. I think that's a mistake, and that's why I think he should resign."
-- Retired Army Maj. Gen. John Riggs.
"We grow up in a culture where accountability, learning to accept responsibility, admitting mistakes and learning from them was critical to us. When we don't see that happening it worries us. Poor military judgment has been used throughout this mission."
-- Retired Marine Gen. Anthony Zinni, former chief of U.S. Central Command.
"I really believe that we need a new secretary of defense because Secretary Rumsfeld carries way too much baggage with him.... I think we need senior military leaders who understand the principles of war and apply them ruthlessly, and when the time comes, they need to call it like it is."
-- Retired Army Maj. Gen. Charles Swannack.
"He has shown himself incompetent strategically, operationally and tactically, and is far more than anyone responsible for what has happened to our important mission in Iraq.... Mr. Rumsfeld must step down."
-- Retired Army Maj. Gen. Paul Eaton.
Perfect security is Not attainable at any price!!!
STAR WARS & other MISSILE DEFENSE for a Trillion Dollars may stop 8 atomic war heads, but 2 will still hit their mark.
What can be achieved besides mutually assured destruction, is BANKRUPTING the US TREASURY.
-- Retired Army General Wesley K. Clark, former Supreme Allied Commander Europe. MISSION ACCOMPLISHED!!!
#79846 Feb 10, 2013
ever get the feeling that libotards are nervous because all they can come back with is that repubs keep losing elections? WAAAA, at last count there were 30 states with repub governors, top 5 states with economic disaster are all blue, and repubs control the house,
libotard math never adds up, BAAAAAAAAAA
#79850 Feb 10, 2013
hey libotards, wasn't it oblamer that came up with the idea of the sequester? wow, wonder how he pinned that on the repubs! oh wait, he is a professional liar and sheep herder and all his sheeple have high IQs, BAAAAAAAAAAA
Congressional Democrats and Republicans appeared far apart Sunday on a deal to avert $85 billion in federal spending reductions next month, with a top House Republican saying the cuts appear inevitable.
The automatic cuts, known as sequester, kick in March 1 because the parties have failed to agree on a less-drastic plan to cut the federal budget and deficit.
House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi told Fox News Sunday that Democrats remain steadfast about tax increases being part of the deal but remain open to spending cuts.
Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/02/10/pe...
#79851 Feb 10, 2013
do you not understand that you don't have to idolize oblamer, all you have to do to stand with him is to espouse his anti-Americanism and not oppose it, birds of a feather concept, so, whether or not you like oblamer is irrelevant, if you stand for what he promotes you are counted with them, BAaaaaaaaaaaaaa
#79852 Feb 10, 2013
Everything I post is factual and nobody can disprove me.
Afghanistan close to anarchy, warns General David Richards
Nato commander's view in stark contrast to ministers'
Forces short of equipment and 'running out of time'
http://tinyurl.com/eg43g July 22, 2006
The most senior British military commander in Afghanistan yesterday described the situation in the country as "close to anarchy" with feuding foreign agencies and unethical private security companies compounding problems caused by local corruption.
The stark warning came from Lieutenant General David Richards, head of Nato's international security force in Afghanistan, who warned that western forces there were short of equipment and were "running out of time" if they were going to meet the expectations of the Afghan people.
The assumption within Nato countries had been that the environment in Afghanistan after the defeat of the Taliban in 2002 would be benign, Gen Richards said. "That is clearly not the case," he said yesterday. He referred to disputes between tribes crossing the border with Pakistan, and divisions between religious and secular factions cynically manipulated by "anarcho-warlords". http://www.guardian.co.uk/afghanistan/story/0...
BUSH LOST TWO WARS IN IRAQ AND AFGHANISTAN WITH THE BEST MILITARY ON EARTH:
Bush Took His Eyes Off Al Qaeda / Bush Invaded The Wrong Country
Army War College / Bounding Global War Dec/ 2003
BUSH LOST TWO WARS IN IRAQ AND AFGHANISTAN WITH THE BEST MILITARY ON EARTH:
BUSH WASTED 4 YEARS FIGHTING IRAQIS NOT FIGHTING AL QAEDA :
Army War College / American Strategy After 9/11/01
#79853 Feb 10, 2013
I don't care if he claims to be a Christian, by the very bible that he mocks he is not, a Christian will not mock Jesus or his followers like oblamer has on several occasions while he refers to the Quran holy
#79855 Feb 10, 2013
I think the Iranian approach to dealing with this is totally acceptable, public stoning to death, maybe a few more sodomoite liberals will think twice about molesting children,
#79856 Feb 10, 2013
your first line is a lie, so none of the rest of your post has any credibility, funny though, Afgh and Iraq were pretty stable in 2008 but not now, B AAAAAAAAAA
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