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The U.S. Supreme Court will consider Friday whether to take up a lawsuit challenging President-elect Barack Obama 's U.S. citizenship, a continuation of a New Jersey case embraced by some opponents of Obama's ...

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“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#196964 Jul 28, 2014
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
I have a JUNIOR HIGH classmate who flew O-1 Birddogs in Vietnam is married to a travel nurse. They live north of Denver in the mountains in the summer and in Tampa Florida.
He did have a Cessna 207 seaplane which he kept down here and flew tourist and a Mooney he also used to fly tourists to Aspen during the summer. He sold his Cessna a few years ago. He also uses his Mooney to commute from CO to FL.
Oh, there were four of us from Eastgate J/H/S, Ozark, AL from 1963/64 that went to Army Flight School and three of us flew in Vietnam.
And half of the film 12 O'clock High was filmed at Ozark Air Airfield (now Cairns AAF), Alabama and the other half at Eglin AAF (now AFB), Florida
If you are in the military you never want anything named after you as that means 1) you are dead and that 2) you probably did not die an old man.
Like the ship I went to Germany on in 1956, the USNS Gen. Maurice Rose.
I think Ge. Rose was the last general to be Killed In Action in Europe during WWII.
http://www.navsource.org/archives/09/22/22126...
Do I recall correctly or was 12 O'Clock High not half filmed in B&W and the second half in colour? I seem to remember that the whole thing turned to technicolour when the squadron was taking off. Anyhow...

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

Bristol, CT

#196965 Jul 28, 2014
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
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Well, no, if he resigns first! Just like Nixon who resigned before they could impeach him.
Sorry, but the suit will be dismissed for lack of subject matter jurisdiction and failure to state a case. Furthermore, there are no factual issues to be resolved by discovery. The executive orders are a matter of record and the issue is purely a matter of law.

As I said, dream world.
wojar wrote:
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You're living in a dream world if you believe "Obama will have to be deposed and testify."

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#196966 Jul 28, 2014
Jacques from Ottawa wrote:
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Do I recall correctly or was 12 O'Clock High not half filmed in B&W and the second half in colour? I seem to remember that the whole thing turned to technicolour when the squadron was taking off. Anyhow...
It was all in B&W and released in 1949.
To me it was a great character study. A few other great charter study war films were 'Way all Boats' and 'Battle Hymn'.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Away_All_Boats
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_Hymn_%28f...
Today's war films are mostly about ACTION and not the drama. An exception would be Tom Hanks''Saving Private Ryan'.

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#196967 Jul 28, 2014
Jacques from Ottawa wrote:
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Do I recall correctly or was 12 O'Clock High not half filmed in B&W and the second half in colour? I seem to remember that the whole thing turned to technicolour when the squadron was taking off. Anyhow...
Are you think about 'The Wizzard of Ozz' in which the beginning and end (Kansas) was in B&W while the rest (Ozz) was in Colour? I think they wanted to show a big contrast between Kansas and Ozz.
Also.'Schindler's List' in which most of the film was in B&W except for the red coat of the little girl and the candle flame.
https://www.google.com/search...

Since: May 10

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#196968 Jul 28, 2014
I was about six years old when my parents took me to Dachau and I had nightmares for a long time. I took my own daughter when she was 14. I tried to explain it to her but she too had nightmares about the place.
Dachau, a very sobering place.

Since: May 10

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#196969 Jul 28, 2014
I was only five y/o during the Hungarian Revolution of 1956. I remember my dad coming home with a M1 carbine and kissing my mother good bye as they were talking about evacuating non-combatants from Germany.
During a NEO everyone is allowed ONE suitcase and no pets. There were six kids ranging from six months to eight years and our mother would have had to do it without dad if they went ahead with the NEO. A little scary when you are only about five.

Since: May 10

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#196970 Jul 28, 2014
Just in case you do knot no, the exvac of our embassy personnel and their families from Libya was a NEO.

Non-combatant evacuation operation
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
A non-combatant evacuation operation (NEO) is an operation conducted to evacuate civilians from another country, generally due to a deteriorating security situation.

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#196971 Jul 28, 2014
wojar wrote:
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Sorry, but the suit will be dismissed for lack of subject matter jurisdiction and failure to state a case. Furthermore, there are no factual issues to be resolved by discovery. The executive orders are a matter of record and the issue is purely a matter of law.
As I said, dream world.
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Are you positive? You do know Congress has the right to issue arrest warrants, don't you. It is in our Constitution. But they have never done it before but there is nothing to say they will not dew it in the future.
Oh, you do recognize the few Red Herrings don't you? I know you missed the "1 + 9 = 12" the other day. As if I can't dew simple math.
LRS

Shreveport, LA

#196972 Jul 28, 2014
Jacques from Ottawa wrote:
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"Coat and tie affair"? Must be very special.
So, did you go with your girl friend or boyfriend? It that the truth or a real true genuine freudian slip?
Rogue : "There was 150-200 people there although half were wives, girlfriends and in my case, a boyfriend."
Comprehension son, COMPREHENSION!
LRS

Shreveport, LA

#196973 Jul 28, 2014
Jacques from Ottawa wrote:
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Thank you for the non-reply on your non-reply re Maher and that poor bastard Republican who got run over by the big Maher truck. I'll take that as acknowledgement that Maher is smart, witty, urbane and knowledgeable.
As to what you'd do about Russia-Ukraine, you'd do nothing. Then I presume you are criticizing his sanctions. And here I thought, according to you, Rogue and assorted birthers, Obama was weak, a wuss.
Why, you just feel any way you like about the flop Maher, sweetthang! Obama is weak, otherwise, we would not be in this position. Sometime try looking past that big wart on the end of your neb! Here's a little hint for ya, we have no FOREIGN POLICY because we have no president. fruit
LRS

Shreveport, LA

#196974 Jul 28, 2014
Jacques from Ottawa wrote:
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Looks like his employers and a lot of fans also like him. I'll bet the majority of his listeners are University graduates and your hero Limbaugh's fans hardly made it past elementary school. A poll would be interesting as to both tv hosts' audience breakdown. Go ahead, look for it, bet you I'm right,.
Now, when you say graduates, are you including all the cheaters from the Ivy League? Because that could be his entire audience. Ya know? The breakdown is simple, sane on Rush's side and mad loons on Maher's side. Go ahead, look it up, if you NEED to! And, please post a link to ALL your BS posts, otay? fruit

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

Bristol, CT

#196975 Jul 28, 2014
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
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Are you positive? You do know Congress has the right to issue arrest warrants, don't you. It is in our Constitution. But they have never done it before but there is nothing to say they will not dew it in the future.
Oh, you do recognize the few Red Herrings don't you? I know you missed the "1 + 9 = 12" the other day. As if I can't dew simple math.
Separation of powers is also in our constitution, Numskull.

When the case is dismissed on Rule 12(b)(1) or 12(b)(6) there is no opportunity for discovery; the right to issue arrest warrants is irrelevant.

BTW, Rouge has proved repeatedly that he does not understand simple math. if half of his stupid mistakes are intentional, the other half are not. it's not something that I "missed". Sorry Rougetard.
wojar wrote:
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Sorry, but the suit will be dismissed for lack of subject matter jurisdiction and failure to state a case. Furthermore, there are no factual issues to be resolved by discovery. The executive orders are a matter of record and the issue is purely a matter of law.
As I said, dream world.
LRS

Shreveport, LA

#196976 Jul 28, 2014
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
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Are you think about 'The Wizzard of Ozz' in which the beginning and end (Kansas) was in B&W while the rest (Ozz) was in Colour? I think they wanted to show a big contrast between Kansas and Ozz.
Also.'Schindler's List' in which most of the film was in B&W except for the red coat of the little girl and the candle flame.
https://www.google.com/search...
Thinking? Hell, he lives in Oz!

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#196977 Jul 28, 2014
wojar wrote:
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Separation of powers is also in our constitution, Numskull.
When the case is dismissed on Rule 12(b)(1) or 12(b)(6) there is no opportunity for discovery; the right to issue arrest warrants is irrelevant.
BTW, Rouge has proved repeatedly that he does not understand simple math. if half of his stupid mistakes are intentional, the other half are not. it's not something that I "missed". Sorry Rougetard.
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Well there Neanderthal, Congress has oversight and it is the job to make sure the Executive Branch is doing their job.With the help of the Judicial Branch they can force hi to abide by the law.
If I recall the Supreme Court ruled in favor of the Civilize Tribes who were trying to stop Pres. Jackson of forcing them to move out of the their territories to places like Oklahoma. Even though the SCOTUS ruled in favor of the Civilized Tribes, Pres. Jackson to the Supremes that THEY had to enforce the laws but he was going to do what he wanted to do.
Yep, Jackson defied the Supremes and should have been impeached but all to often Congress does not do their job.

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#196978 Jul 28, 2014
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
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Yep, it is tuff to find out you were fooled not only once but twice.
Jacques from Ottawa wrote:
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"Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me. "
Why do you birthers leave the ridicule door wide wide open all the time? You make it so easy, it's almost boring.
Well. did you see the poll that came out last week about who they would have voted for if the vote was today and many people have changed their minds and see Mitt Romney as a better man than Obummer Boy.

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#196979 Jul 28, 2014
LRS wrote:
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Now, when you say graduates, are you including all the cheaters from the Ivy League? Because that could be his entire audience. Ya know? The breakdown is simple, sane on Rush's side and mad loons on Maher's side. Go ahead, look it up, if you NEED to! And, please post a link to ALL your BS posts, otay? fruit
Naw, I won't do the research. I just think it, is all.

Now, what do you prefer? Ivy league graduate cheaters (your claim has to be proven, I figure there are some, but they are few and far between) or failed elementary school dropouts?

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#196980 Jul 28, 2014
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
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Yep, it is tuff to find out you were fooled not only once but twice.
<quoted text>
Well. did you see the poll that came out last week about who they would have voted for if the vote was today and many people have changed their minds and see Mitt Romney as a better man than Obummer Boy.
Still ridiculed.Door still wide open. Why? Fool you thrice? Oh no.

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

Bristol, CT

#196981 Jul 28, 2014
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
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Well there Neanderthal, Congress has oversight and it is the job to make sure the Executive Branch is doing their job.With the help of the Judicial Branch they can force hi to abide by the law.
If I recall the Supreme Court ruled in favor of the Civilize Tribes who were trying to stop Pres. Jackson of forcing them to move out of the their territories to places like Oklahoma. Even though the SCOTUS ruled in favor of the Civilized Tribes, Pres. Jackson to the Supremes that THEY had to enforce the laws but he was going to do what he wanted to do.
Yep, Jackson defied the Supremes and should have been impeached but all to often Congress does not do their job.
My comment regarding separation of powers was in relation to the Rougetard fantasy of ARREST by the Sargent-at-Arms.

BTW, if the Congress had the kind of "oversight" implied by Rougetard (as a superior), they wouldn't need to file suit. BTW, oversight over some functions of the executive branch is entirely different than oversight of the President himself.

Does Rougetard understand that Congressional oversight of executive agencies, such as the Patent Office concerns agencies that operate with powers delegated from Congress per statute? Executive Orders do not concern powers delegated from congress.
wojar wrote:
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Separation of powers is also in our constitution, Numskull.
When the case is dismissed on Rule 12(b)(1) or 12(b)(6) there is no opportunity for discovery; the right to issue arrest warrants is irrelevant.
BTW, Rouge has proved repeatedly that he does not understand simple math. if half of his stupid mistakes are intentional, the other half are not. it's not something that I "missed". Sorry Rougetard.
LRS

Shreveport, LA

#196982 Jul 28, 2014
Jacques from Ottawa wrote:
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Naw, I won't do the research. I just think it, is all.
Now, what do you prefer? Ivy league graduate cheaters (your claim has to be proven, I figure there are some, but they are few and far between) or failed elementary school dropouts?
If you think it, then there is an extremely good chance it is wrong. Really. Look it up.
Dale

United States

#196983 Jul 28, 2014
wojar wrote:
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My comment regarding separation of powers was in relation to the Rougetard fantasy of ARREST by the Sargent-at-Arms.
BTW, if the Congress had the kind of "oversight" implied by Rougetard (as a superior), they wouldn't need to file suit. BTW, oversight over some functions of the executive branch is entirely different than oversight of the President himself.
Does Rougetard understand that Congressional oversight of executive agencies, such as the Patent Office concerns agencies that operate with powers delegated from Congress per statute? Executive Orders do not concern powers delegated from congress.
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It seems like everyone has forgotten that the US Constitution has jurisdiction over all three branches of government.

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