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Justice LRS

Shreveport, LA

#172620 Sep 23, 2013
Jacques from Ottawa wrote:
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You wrote : "Christians aren't taught to lie to advance our message. Nor are we taught to kill those who oppose us. This list can go on and on and on! Save it, Scruffy. "
Really? Would you like to do a quick review of the last 2,000 years - or would you not?
Sure Path. Spell out the last 2,000 years for us. Starting with the founder population of munchins! LMAO! If you think you're a person of influence, try ordering someone else's dog around. In other words, you impress no one.
Dale

United States

#172621 Sep 23, 2013
Therealnews com wrote:
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Another fact of history is Bush and Cheney was warned 9 months before September 11, 2001 and did absolutely nothing to deter it.
Russia, Egypt, France, England, CIA, FBI, and many other countries, plus the whole out going Clinton Administration warned the whole incoming Bush administration about al Qaeda and not Iraq.
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Another fact of history is Bill was offered Bin Laden and refused the offer.
Justice LRS

Shreveport, LA

#172622 Sep 23, 2013
Learn to Read wrote:
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So you advocate discarding our Constitution in favor of Egypt's? Do you think anyone in Egypt pretends that they have banned Islam?
Poor pathetic fool
You're the only one talking about the Constitution, you know? Hey, go ahead and converse with yourself. I'm sure you've had plenty of practice.

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#172624 Sep 23, 2013
Therealnews com wrote:
<quoted text>
None of the above!
Go to the head of the class, past dunce cap-wearing LRS.
Learn to Read

Indianapolis, IN

#172626 Sep 23, 2013
Justice LRS wrote:
<quoted text>You're the only one talking about the Constitution, you know? Hey, go ahead and converse with yourself. I'm sure you've had plenty of practice.
We already knew you didn't care about the Constitution. I just find it amusing how none of you Birfoons / Tru Patriots do - and enjoy laughing at you as I point out this obvious fact
Therealnews com

Edison, NJ

#172627 Sep 23, 2013
Dale wrote:
<quoted text>Another fact of history is Bill was offered Bin Laden and refused the offer.
NOT TRUE!

Clinton much better than Bush fighting Terrorist
http://tinyurl.com/6kucso
http://www.snopes.com/rumors/clinton.asp

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Just for the record, under Richard Clarke's leadership as Czar of Counterterrorism:
CLINTON developed the nation's first anti-terrorism policy, and appointed first national coordinator of anti-terrorist efforts.
Bill Clinton stopped cold the Al Qaeda millennium hijacking and bombing plots. Bill Clinton stopped cold a planned attack to kill the Pope. Bill Clinton stopped cold a planned attack to blow up 12 U.S. jetliners simultaneously. Bill Clinton stopped cold a planned attack to blow up UN Headquarters. Bill Clinton stopped cold a planned attack to blow up FBI Headquarters. Bill Clinton stopped cold a planned attack to blow up the Israeli Embassy in Washington. Bill Clinton stopped cold a planned attack to blow up Boston airport. Bill Clinton stopped cold a planned attack to blow up Lincoln and Holland Tunnels in NY. Bill Clinton stopped cold a planned attack to blow up the George Washington Bridge. Bill Clinton stopped cold a planned attack to blow up the US Embassy in Albania. Bill Clinton tried to kill Osama bin Laden and disrupt Al Qaeda through preemptive strikes (efforts denounced by the G.O.P.). Bill Clinton brought perpetrators of first World Trade Center bombing and CIA killings to justice. Bill Clinton did not blame the Bush I administration for first WTC bombing even though it occurred 38 days after Bush left office. Instead, worked hard, even obsessively - and successfully - to stop future terrorist attacks. Bill Clinton named the Hart-Rudman commission to report on nature of terrorist threats and major steps to be taken to combat terrorism. Bill Clinton sent legislation to Congress to tighten airport security.(Remember, this is before 911) The legislation was defeated by the Republicans because of opposition from the airlines. Bill Clinton sent legislation to Congress to allow for better tracking of terrorist funding. It was defeated by Republicans in the Senate because of opposition from banking interests. Bill Clinton sent legislation to Congress to add tagents to explosives, to allow for better tracking of explosives used by terrorists. It was defeated by the Republicans because of opposition from the NRA. Bill Clinton increased the military budget by an average of 14 per cent, reversing the trend under Bush I. Bill Clinton tripled the budget of the FBI for counterterrorism and doubled overall funding for counterterrorism. Bill Clinton detected and destroyed cells of Al Qaeda in over 20 countries. Bill Clinton created national stockpile of drugs and vaccines including 40 million doses of smallpox vaccine.
Of Clinton's efforts says Robert Oakley, Reagan Ambassador for Counterterrorism: "Overall, I give them very high marks" and "The only major criticism I have is the obsession with Osama".
Paul Bremer, current Civilian Administrator of Iraq disagrees slightly with Robert Oakley as he believed the Bill Clinton Administration had "correctly focused on bin Laden.
Barton Gellman in the Washington Post put it best, "By any measure available, Bill Clinton left office having given greater priority to terrorism than any president before him" and was the "first administration to undertake a systematic anti-terrorist effort".
Clarence Swinney,/ Political Historian
Dale

United States

#172628 Sep 23, 2013
Therealnews com wrote:
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Many Countries Warned USA Summer 2001
Clues Alerted White House to Potential Attacks
http://tinyurl.com/2gqkl / May 17, 2002
Indeed, Fox News has reported many examples of "missed leads" that the Bush administration was given prior to Sept. 11.
Among those examples:
The Italian government shared "general" information of possible attacks in March 2001 based on bugs in apartments in Milan.
An Iranian in custody in New York City told local police last May of a plot to attack the World Trade Center.
German intelligence alerted the Central Intelligence Agency, Britain's MI-6 intelligence service, Israel's Mossad in June 2001 that Middle Eastern terrorists were training for hijackings and targeting American and Israeli interests.
Pakistanis were taken into custody June 4 in the Cayman Islands after they were overheard discussing hijacking attacks in New York City; they were questioned and released, and the information was forwarded to U.S. intelligence.
Indian intelligence shared "general" information in July 2001.
In July and August, British intelligence shared "general" information that it had learned through surveillance of Khalid al-Fawwaz, a Saudi Arabian dissident who has publicly acknowledged being a bin Laden operative. Fawwaz, suspected of participating in the 1998 U.S. embassy bombing in Kenya, was arrested after Sept. 11.
Based on its own intelligence, the Israeli government provided "general" information to the United States in the second week of August that an Al Qaeda attack was imminent.
French intelligence echoed the "general" information in the final week of August.
Russian President Vladimir Putin has said publicly that he ordered his intelligence agencies to alert the United States last summer that suicide pilots were training for attacks on U.S. targets.
Millennium bomber Ahmad Ressam testified in closed and open court trials relating to his Dec. 1999 arrest for trying to bring bomb-making materials across the Canadian border that attack plans, including hijackings and attacks on New York City targets, were ongoing. http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,53065,00....
December 5, 2001
Clinton Let Bin Laden Slip Away and Metastasize
* Sudan offered up the terrorist and data on his network. The then-president and his advisors didn't respond (Clinton).
By MANSOOR IJAZ
President Clinton and his national security team ignored several opportunities to capture Osama bin Laden and his terrorist associates, including one as late as last year.

I know because I negotiated more than one of the opportunities.

From 1996 to 1998, I opened unofficial channels between Sudan and the Clinton administration. I met with officials in both countries, including Clinton, U.S. National Security Advisor Samuel R. "Sandy" Berger and Sudan's president and intelligence chief. President Omar Hassan Ahmed Bashir, who wanted terrorism sanctions against Sudan lifted, offered the arrest and extradition of Bin Laden and detailed intelligence data about the global networks constructed by Egypt's Islamic Jihad, Iran's Hezbollah and the Palestinian Hamas.

Among those in the networks were the two hijackers who piloted commercial airliners into the World Trade Center.

The silence of the Clinton administration in responding to these offers was deafening. Read more.....

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#172629 Sep 23, 2013
Justice LRS wrote:
<quoted text>
Sure Path. Spell out the last 2,000 years for us. Starting with the founder population of munchins! LMAO! If you think you're a person of influence, try ordering someone else's dog around. In other words, you impress no one.
Who's trying to impress anyone? Me? Nope. But you? You do try hard and yes, you do impress pretty much all and sundry. You impress with your ignorance as your above reply amply shows, you impress with your sexual filth and obsessive anal and homo references, you impress with your profanity, racism and xenephobism, you impress with your hate of anyone who disagrees with you, and come to think of it , that would be practically the whole world except for the few odd birthers, tea partyers and Nazis.

To sum it up : You impress people with how unimpressive you are. There is nothing there except boorishness and guns.

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#172630 Sep 23, 2013
Therealnews com wrote:

<quoted text>
Another fact of history is Bush and Cheney was warned 9 months before September 11, 2001 and did absolutely nothing to deter it.
Russia, Egypt, France, England, CIA, FBI, and many other countries, plus the whole out going Clinton Administration warned the whole incoming Bush administration about al Qaeda and not Iraq.
Dale wrote:
<quoted text>Another fact of history is Bill was offered Bin Laden and refused the offer.
Would you care to show any kind of reliable evidence of that?
Dale

United States

#172632 Sep 23, 2013
Jacques from Ottawa wrote:
Therealnews com wrote:
<quoted text>
Another fact of history is Bush and Cheney was warned 9 months before September 11, 2001 and did absolutely nothing to deter it.
Russia, Egypt, France, England, CIA, FBI, and many other countries, plus the whole out going Clinton Administration warned the whole incoming Bush administration about al Qaeda and not Iraq.
<quoted text>
Would you care to show any kind of reliable evidence of that?
LMAO!!! I guess you would be meaning ABC, CBS, NBC, MSNBC and CNN, all others don't count do they!! Hahahahaha!!!!
Dale

United States

#172633 Sep 23, 2013
Wayne LaPierre of the National Rifle Association told NBC's "Meet the Press" that the nation needs to do more to lock up mentally ill people who are dangerous.
WASHINGTON — Greater efforts are needed to identify and lock up mentally ill people who are dangerous, a top National Rifle Association official responding to the recent Washington Navy Yard shootings said Sunday.
The nation's mental health system is "in complete breakdown," resulting in not enough of the mentally ill being committed to psychiatric hospitals, National Rifle Association Executive Vice President Wayne LaPierre told NBC's "Meet the Press."
"If we leave these homicidal maniacs on the street ... they're going to kill," he said. "They need to be committed is what they need to be. If they are committed, they're not at the Naval Yard."
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If we lockup all the mentally deranged people on the streets, there won't be a democrat party!

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#172635 Sep 23, 2013
Therealnews com wrote:
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Thanks for the info.
I only admire one Floridian for having some good qualities.
Bob Graham, certainly not the Bush family.
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Former Senator Bob Graham Urges Obama to Reopen Investigation into Saudi Role in 9/11 Attacks
September 15, 2011 / http://tinyurl.com/68qa4od
Former Florida governor and senator Bob Graham is calling on President Obama to reopen the investigation into the Sept. 11 attacks after new information has emerged about the possible role of prominent Saudis in the 9/11 plot. According to recent news reports, a wealthy young Saudi couple fled their home in a gated community in Sarasota, Florida, just a week or so before Sept. 11, 2001, leaving behind three cars and nearly all of their possessions. The FBI was tipped off about the couple but never passed the information on to the 9/11 Commission investigating the attacks, even though phone records showed the couple had ties to Mohamed Atta and at least 10 other al-Qaeda suspects. Graham joins us to discuss the news he’s called "the most important thing about 9/11 to surface in the last seven or eight years." As the former chair of the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence, a post he held on September 11, 2001, Graham chaired the Congressional Joint Inquiry into the attacks.
http://www.democracynow.org/2011/9/15/former_...
Well, did Pres. Obama reopen that investigation? NOPE!!! And Bob Graham is a wrote Democrat. What ever their leader says, he does. And do you know who holds his seat? Marco Rubio!!!
Therealnews com

Edison, NJ

#172636 Sep 23, 2013
Dale wrote:
<quoted text>December 5, 2001
Clinton Let Bin Laden Slip Away and Metastasize
* Sudan offered up the terrorist and data on his network. The then-president and his advisors didn't respond (Clinton).
By MANSOOR IJAZ
President Clinton and his national security team ignored several opportunities to capture Osama bin Laden and his terrorist associates, including one as late as last year.
I know because I negotiated more than one of the opportunities.
From 1996 to 1998, I opened unofficial channels between Sudan and the Clinton administration. I met with officials in both countries, including Clinton, U.S. National Security Advisor Samuel R. "Sandy" Berger and Sudan's president and intelligence chief. President Omar Hassan Ahmed Bashir, who wanted terrorism sanctions against Sudan lifted, offered the arrest and extradition of Bin Laden and detailed intelligence data about the global networks constructed by Egypt's Islamic Jihad, Iran's Hezbollah and the Palestinian Hamas.
Among those in the networks were the two hijackers who piloted commercial airliners into the World Trade Center.
The silence of the Clinton administration in responding to these offers was deafening. Read more.....
Bill Clinton wanted to wiretap al Qaeda terrorist and the Republicans were against it. For 8 years of Clinton the Republicans were only concerned with Monica and nothing else.

ENCLOSED IS PROOF:

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Clinton PDD 63
http://tinyurl.com/cvuom

For Immediate Release May 22, 1998 FACT SHEET PROTECTING AMERICA'S
CRITICAL INFRASTRUCTURES: PDD 63
http://www.fas.org/irp/offdocs/pdd-63.htm

Clinton PDD 62
http://tinyurl.com/bze57

COMBATING TERRORISM: PRESIDENTIAL DECISION DIRECTIVE 62
http://www.au.af.mil/au/awc/awcgate/ciao/62fa...

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#172637 Sep 23, 2013
Dale wrote:
<quoted text>LMAO!!! I guess you would be meaning ABC, CBS, NBC, MSNBC and CNN, all others don't count do they!! Hahahahaha!!!!
What a child, how juvenile. You make it look like I'm questioning realnews post on 9/11 warnings by deleting the following :

Dale wrote:

<quoted text>Another fact of history is Bill was offered Bin Laden and refused the offer.

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Not to mention dishonest. And stupid to boot, as if no one would notice. Birther tea party tactics.

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#172638 Sep 23, 2013
Dale wrote:
Wayne LaPierre of the National Rifle Association told NBC's "Meet the Press" that the nation needs to do more to lock up mentally ill people who are dangerous.
WASHINGTON — Greater efforts are needed to identify and lock up mentally ill people who are dangerous, a top National Rifle Association official responding to the recent Washington Navy Yard shootings said Sunday.
The nation's mental health system is "in complete breakdown," resulting in not enough of the mentally ill being committed to psychiatric hospitals, National Rifle Association Executive Vice President Wayne LaPierre told NBC's "Meet the Press."
"If we leave these homicidal maniacs on the street ... they're going to kill," he said. "They need to be committed is what they need to be. If they are committed, they're not at the Naval Yard."
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If we lockup all the mentally deranged people on the streets, there won't be a democrat party!
Wayne Lapierre should be locked up for starters. People like him are the single biggest threat to the nation.
Therealnews com

Edison, NJ

#172639 Sep 23, 2013
Dale wrote:
<quoted text>December 5, 2001
Clinton Let Bin Laden Slip Away and Metastasize
* Sudan offered up the terrorist and data on his network. The then-president and his advisors didn't respond (Clinton).
By MANSOOR IJAZ
President Clinton and his national security team ignored several opportunities to capture Osama bin Laden and his terrorist associates, including one as late as last year.
I know because I negotiated more than one of the opportunities.
From 1996 to 1998, I opened unofficial channels between Sudan and the Clinton administration. I met with officials in both countries, including Clinton, U.S. National Security Advisor Samuel R. "Sandy" Berger and Sudan's president and intelligence chief. President Omar Hassan Ahmed Bashir, who wanted terrorism sanctions against Sudan lifted, offered the arrest and extradition of Bin Laden and detailed intelligence data about the global networks constructed by Egypt's Islamic Jihad, Iran's Hezbollah and the Palestinian Hamas.
Among those in the networks were the two hijackers who piloted commercial airliners into the World Trade Center.
The silence of the Clinton administration in responding to these offers was deafening. Read more.....
TERRORISM PREVENTION ACT--CONFERENCE REPORT
http://tinyurl.com/2lj3t8 / April 17, 1996
Congressional Record: April 17, 1996 (Senate)- Pages S3454-S3478 DOCID:cr17ap96-153
Terrorism prevention Act--Conference Report
Orrin Hatch: Mr. President, again, in the real world, in the case of the Unabomber or a terrorist where there is a real threat or an immediate concern, you do not need this provision to get an emergency wiretap. All the Senator's motion does is expand the number of crimes that would trigger the wiretap statute. This amendment was offered during the Senate debate. It was defeated. It was not a part of the Senate bill. It was not a part of the House bill. It is not a part of our conference report, and rightly so. I oppose this provision that could expand emergency wiretap authority to permit the Government to begin a wiretap prior to obtaining court approval in a greater range of cases than the law presently allows. I personally find this proposal troubling. I am concerned that this provision, if enacted, would unnecessarily broaden emergency wiretap authority. Under current law, such authority exists when life is in danger, when the national security is threatened, or when an organized crime conspiracy is involved. In the real world, we do not need this amendment to get emergency wiretap authority, and that is a fact.
Let me also say that this authority is constrained by a requirement that surveillance be approved by the Court within 48 hours, but that authority already exists in those areas I have addressed.
http://frwebgate.access.gpo.gov/cgi-bin/getdo...

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#172640 Sep 23, 2013
Dale wrote:
Wayne LaPierre of the National Rifle Association told NBC's "Meet the Press" that the nation needs to do more to lock up mentally ill people who are dangerous.
WASHINGTON — Greater efforts are needed to identify and lock up mentally ill people who are dangerous, a top National Rifle Association official responding to the recent Washington Navy Yard shootings said Sunday.
The nation's mental health system is "in complete breakdown," resulting in not enough of the mentally ill being committed to psychiatric hospitals, National Rifle Association Executive Vice President Wayne LaPierre told NBC's "Meet the Press."
"If we leave these homicidal maniacs on the street ... they're going to kill," he said. "They need to be committed is what they need to be. If they are committed, they're not at the Naval Yard."
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If we lockup all the mentally deranged people on the streets, there won't be a democrat party!
It was LBJ and Jimmy Carter who let all the loonies out of the mental hospitals but the Libtards blame Reagan as he closed the EMPTY mental hospitals! It does not matter, in the minds of Libtards, anything that goes bad, was caused by evil Republicans!
Therealnews com

Edison, NJ

#172642 Sep 23, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
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Well, did Pres. Obama reopen that investigation? NOPE!!! And Bob Graham is a wrote Democrat. What ever their leader says, he does. And do you know who holds his seat? Marco Rubio!!!
Rubio is a corporate hack Wall Street lover Tea Bag.

Obama swept the crimes of Bush under the rug just like Clinton did with Iran/Contra.

Ford pardoned Nixon.

Nobody went after LBJ for lying about the Gulf of Tonkin.

To be fair that was the reason LBJ did not run.

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The Iran-Contra Affair 20 Years On
Documents Spotlight Role of Reagan, Top Aides
Pentagon Nominee Robert Gates Among Many
Prominent Figures Involved in the Scandal
http://tinyurl.com/y9rduo / November 24, 2006
http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB210...
Therealnews com

Edison, NJ

#172643 Sep 23, 2013
Dale wrote:
<quoted text>December 5, 2001
Clinton Let Bin Laden Slip Away and Metastasize
* Sudan offered up the terrorist and data on his network. The then-president and his advisors didn't respond (Clinton).
By MANSOOR IJAZ
President Clinton and his national security team ignored several opportunities to capture Osama bin Laden and his terrorist associates, including one as late as last year.
I know because I negotiated more than one of the opportunities.
From 1996 to 1998, I opened unofficial channels between Sudan and the Clinton administration. I met with officials in both countries, including Clinton, U.S. National Security Advisor Samuel R. "Sandy" Berger and Sudan's president and intelligence chief. President Omar Hassan Ahmed Bashir, who wanted terrorism sanctions against Sudan lifted, offered the arrest and extradition of Bin Laden and detailed intelligence data about the global networks constructed by Egypt's Islamic Jihad, Iran's Hezbollah and the Palestinian Hamas.
Among those in the networks were the two hijackers who piloted commercial airliners into the World Trade Center.
The silence of the Clinton administration in responding to these offers was deafening. Read more.....
COMPREHENSIVE ANTITERRORISM ACT OF 1995
http://tinyurl.com/ys56o4 / April 18, 1996

Congressional Record: April 18, 1996 (House)- Pages H3605-H3618 Government Printing Office's Online Records: DOCID:cr18ap96-43
Conference Report on s. 735, Antiterrorism and Effective Death Penalty Act of 1996
Dan Burton (R-Ind): If the Government of the United States can through, quote-unquote, good faith tap our phones and intrude into our lives, they violate our constitutional liberties, and that is something that we should not tolerate, and that is in section 305 and section 307. The FBI can gain access to individual phone billing records without a subpoena or a court order. Once again I believe that infringes upon our constitutional rights and liberties, and while we are trying to deal with terrorism, and we should, we should not violate our constitutional rights and liberties, and I believe this bill in its present form does. And that is why I think the Barr amendment is absolutely essential if we are going to pass something that will really deal with terrorism crime, but protect the liberties that we fought so hard for in the Revolutionary War.
http://frwebgate.access.gpo.gov/cgi-bin/getdo...

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#172644 Sep 23, 2013
Hummmm, is it really getting that bad in Shitcago? YES!!!

Governor Quinn open to using National Guard to fight Chicago gun violence
September 23, 2013 The Associated Press

Illinois Gov. Pat Quinn says he's open to sending National Guard troops or state police to assist Chicago police with curbing violence if city officials want the help.

He says state police have helped in places like East St. Louis, but only when local authorities coordinate things.

Quinn says he hasn't been approached by Chicago Mayor Rahm Emanuel yet.

The governor's comments follow a mass shooting at a park on Chicago's southwest side Thursday night. Thirteen people were wounded, including a 3-year-old boy.
http://www.wbez.org/news/governor-quinn-open-...

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