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#137372 Jan 16, 2013
Now that was not my investigation but it was my soldiers who were hurt in the accident. But here is a civilian example.
A drunk is driving down the road and a police car blue-lights him but he races away at a reckless speed and crash's into a car and seriously injures the occupants. The insurance company and legally refuse to honor their claim as the drive was engaged in felonious activity. The only chance to get restitution is sue the individual who's insurance was null and void.
Learn to Read

Chicago, IL

#137373 Jan 16, 2013
LRS wrote:
<quoted text>Please explain who is trying to overrule the Constitution.
See Rouge and his sooper troopers pretending the can pass a State law making it illegal to enforce a federal one

“ad maiora nati sumus ”

Since: Sep 09

Justice Scalia is an Oxymoron

#137374 Jan 16, 2013
Justice Dale wrote:
<quoted text>"and subject to the jurisdiction, thereof", simply means the US Constitution and no alien has ever been subject to that.
You still are unable to understand the 14th Amendment's citizenship clause.

I will explain it for you.

The rationale of having the phrase "subject to the jurisdiction thereof" in the first sentence of the 14th Amendment wherein it set forth who is a citizen of the United States is to EXCLUDE Indians who were members of tribes that existed within the boundaries of the United States. Congress acknowledged that INDIANS were not citizens despite the fact that they lived with the borders of the United States.

That is why the Civil Rights Act of 1866 had language that excluding INDIANS as citizens:

"Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled, That all persons born in the United States and not subject to any foreign power, EXCLUDING INDIANS NOT TAXED, are hereby declared to be citizens of the United States"

In Elk v. Wilkins, 112 U.S. 94 (1884), Justice Gray noted the legal status of Indians tribes and their members:

The Indian tribes, being within the territorial limits of the United States, were not, strictly speaking, foreign States; but they were ALIEN NATIONS, DISTINCT POLITICAL COMMUNITIES, with whom the United States might and habitually did deal, as they thought fit, either through treaties made by the President and Senate, or through acts of Congress in the ordinary forms of legislation. The members of those tribes OWED IMMEDIATE ALLEGIANCE TO THEIR SEVERAL TRIBES. and were not part of the people of the United States. Id at 99

The drafters of the 14th Amendment understood that Indians were not citizens of the United States and as such incorporated "subject to the jurisdiction thereof" language in the 14th Amendment to EXCLUDE them in setting forth who is a citizen of the United States.
Jacques Ottawa

Scarborough, Canada

#137375 Jan 16, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
Yep, you Libtards always talk about everyone's "Fair share of Taxes" but here in the U.S., 47% do not pay any federal income tax. Let's compare the U.S to Russia which has a 13% Flat Tax.
In Russia, if you earn a thousand dollars, you pay $R130 in taxes and if you earn a hundred thousand dollars you pay $R13,000 in taxes. All Russians pat Their Fair Share of Taxes".
Ir seems that Russia is more fair as they do not allow the 47% to suck-off the 53% like you Progressives want.
The American er hm Lady madness syndrome is contagious. Rogue has caught it.

You compare Russia to the USA, based on 13% flat tax only? In the U.S., it would appear it's those tax-free people who voted Romney, ha ha, isn't that the percentage of shiftless people he excoriated?

If things are so good in ole Mother Russia, why are they "selling" their children to Americans? Are you trying to tell one and all that thanks to the 13% flat tax, Russians have a higher standard of living than Americans? And more freedom of expression? Why do you insist always on looking like a clueless dolt?
Learn to Read

Chicago, IL

#137376 Jan 16, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
<quoted text>See the 10th Amendment, the federal government can not force states to enforce federal laws. Now can they force state and local jails and prisons to house federal prisoners. Last year Sheriff Joe Arpaio last year did just that so the feds had to take their prisoners to another county who would.
I know, I know, you have no idea what the 10th Amendment says much less know what it means.
Now, take another stab at answering my points.
And in your fantasy this gives Texas the authority to arrest a federal agent for enforcing a federal law?

Big Joe tried to enforce federal laws and was told he couldn't - but not even Joe is stupid enough to arrest a federal agent for enforcing federal laws.

Sorry Rouge - try again.

Since: May 10

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#137377 Jan 16, 2013
Learn to Read wrote:
<quoted text>
Oh good - more morons who fantasize that they have the authority to overrule the Constitution of the United States. I hear they use a picture if DufusDale wiping with it as their flag
LRS wrote:
<quoted text>
Please explain who is trying to overrule the Constitution.
It all depends on what the indention of "is" is?

Libtards are good at defining what is what. How about this classic definition;
http://www.youtube.com/watch...
But Bush lied!?!?!
LRS

Shreveport, LA

#137378 Jan 16, 2013
Learn to Read wrote:
<quoted text>
And - if so - the solution is to challenge the constitutionality in court - not arrest a law enforcement officer for following the law
That's just it, it's not the law.
Jacques Ottawa

Scarborough, Canada

#137379 Jan 16, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
Learn to Read wrote:
<quoted text>
Oh good - more morons who fantasize that they have the authority to overrule the Constitution of the United States. I hear they use a picture if DufusDale wiping with it as their flag
<quoted text>
Well, can you show us any place in our Second Amendment were it gives any government the right to deny any citizen any arm??? It does not even give any government the right to even define what an arm is.
To refresh your memories, an "arm" is a personal weapon. It is not a tank, submarine, fighter plane, a crew served machine gun, etc. But an "arm" includes fully automatic assault rifles.
Second amnendment clearly mentions "belonging to a militia".Please indicate which militia you and most gun owners belong to.

Since: May 10

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#137380 Jan 16, 2013
Now here is another example of the Loony-Left trying to explain away Global Cooling.
Big Chill vs. Global Warming: What's Going On?
By Jeanna Bryner | LiveScience.com – Mon, Jan 14, 2013

The recent, rare snow in Jerusalem and parts of Lebanon, along with freezing temperatures for Southern California have not nixed the reality of climate change. The planet is warming, and chilled weather doesn't negate that fact, say climate experts.
In fact, such "rare" storms are expected in a warming world.
"As the globe warms, regions of the Earth that have cold winters will still have cold winters, and we will still see the random rolls of the weather dice, like we are seeing this winter," climate scientist Michael Mann of Pennsylvania State University told LiveScience. "But climate change is loading the weather dice, so that 'sixes' are becoming more common, and 'ones' are becoming less common."
No single weather event can be pegged to climate change, which is a long-term trend that over time affects weather, and it affects the weather in different regions in different ways. Rather, as the planet warms, the chances of an extreme-weather event, including very large snowfalls, increase. That is, the dice are loaded for extreme events.[The Reality of Climate Change: 10 Myths Busted]
"Climate is the statistics of weather over the long term," Ken Caldeira, a senior scientist at the Carnegie Institute for Science at Stanford University, told LiveScience last year. "No specific weather event can by itself confirm or disprove the body of scientific knowledge associated with climate change."
http://news.yahoo.com/big-chill-vs-global-war...
Ignore the man behind the curtain.
Jacques Ottawa

Scarborough, Canada

#137381 Jan 16, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
I have been watching Fox News as they had a woman struck between two walls in Portland, OR and she had nee stuck there for hours. And everyone was wondering how she got in that predicament.
Well, as soon as she was extricated I had my answer. She is an Idiotard. You may ask how I know she is an Idiotard and that is simple, she was a STUD in her lower-lip and only Idiotards has studs in weird places. She needs to be locked up in a mental hospital so she can not hurt herself again!
She's a democrat for sure. What more proof do we need? Oh, btw, ever spot Hell's Angels mortorcycle riders? Must be all democrats, what with all those piercings and tattoos. Way to spot those vile democrats/socialists/communist s, Rogue.

Since: May 10

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#137382 Jan 16, 2013
Learn to Read wrote:
<quoted text>
Sure. Right after you show me the authority of a Texas moron to arrest a Federal Agent for doing their job.
Do you know how many times the USSC has overturned rulings from the 9th Circuit Court?

Since: May 10

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#137383 Jan 16, 2013
Jacques Ottawa wrote:
<quoted text>
Saws, scredrivers, hammers, are tools, Rogue. Guns are NOT tools, as they have one purpose and one purpose only, not target practice, not shooting skeet, no, but killing. There is no other purpose.
Would you please indicate when Vietnam declared war on the US and thereafter went to war against said US? And do quote your sources, this one (napalm) being from Apocalypse Now. Those "bad" people you helped kill, did they ever attack the US?
Ah, you can use a saw, screwdriver and a hammer as a weapon .... just as you can use a firearm as a tool. How does it feel to be an idiot?
Oh, South Vietnam never declared war on us. But North Vietnam committed acts of war against us when the went into South Vietnam and killed our soldiers. How does it feel to be an idiot?

Since: May 10

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#137384 Jan 16, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
Yep, the first thing is .... you disarm the people.
Drudge Links Obama and Hitler on Gun Control. Left Cries,“Foul!”
Written by Gary North on January 16, 2013
Hitler imposed gun control on Jews. This is a matter of record. The thought of a bunch of Jews owning guns really upset him. The man was intolerant of Jews with guns.
Drudge ran a photo of Hitler and Stalin right above this headline: White House Threatens ‘Executive Orders’ on Gun Control.
Read more: http://teapartyeconomist.com/2013/01/16/drudg ...
Jacques Ottawa wrote:
<quoted text>
You dare compare Hitloer with Obama?
You dare compare the United States of America with the 1930s Weimar Republic?
You quote from the teapartyeconomist.com ?
You say Hitler took the guns away from the Jews. That may or may not be true, but it doesn't matter. Obama knows very well that the nazi NRA and the ultra-righist John Birch Society will not allow any president to take toys away from gun fetishists. He wants a control of guns , a registry, is all, like you have for useful things like cars, motorcycles, trucks, restaurants, stores etc.
You may not like Obama, and certainly in a free society such as yours, that is quite okay and you should be able to take him to task at will. But to compare him to Hitler, to say he's some kind of dicatator is going a bit far, no?
Well, yes I do compare him to Hitler. Hitler was a left-wing dictator and so is Obama!
Jacques Ottawa

Scarborough, Canada

#137385 Jan 16, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
By the way, 90 plus percent of all laws about "arms" are either unconstitutional of extra-constitutional and are therefore unlawful laws.
<quoted text>
Unfortunately that is all to often true. There are all kinds of bad laws passed by Libtards.
But what is funny is that you Libtards are all for gay marriages while at the same time against polygamous marriages. I am for the standard one man one woman LEGAL marriage partly because I can handle only one woman at a time. But if you want to marry your pig, it is okay with me so long as the pig agrees.
-Gay marriages discriminate against no one any more than heterosexual marriages discriminate against gay marriages.
-Polygamy is plainly anti-woman, misogynous.

Too bad you can't see the difference, Rogue. Too bad you base every law, regulation and usage on your very own personal and biased beliefs. What is it about gays that offends you, but, particularly, scares the living daylight out of you?
LRS

Shreveport, LA

#137386 Jan 16, 2013
Learn to Read wrote:
<quoted text>
See Rouge and his sooper troopers pretending the can pass a State law making it illegal to enforce a federal one
If the State views the law as Unconstitutional they're not going to enforce it. Nor should they. It infringes on the rights given to American citizens by the Constitution. Other States will join in and guess what, the "O" will have created another mess! There is no doubt in my mind that the "O" would love to ban guns altogether.
Jacques Ottawa

Scarborough, Canada

#137387 Jan 16, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
I think the best thing I did over the Christ Mass Holy Days was to take my 13 y/o grandson to the shooting range. Unfortunately the price of ammo has doubled over the past month thanks to Obama's scare tactics but I am sure supply will catch up with demand in a few months.
I am thinking of buying him a 22LR pistol for his 14th b-day. And just like the other guns, the guns will be under the supervision of his mother.
Obama personally doubled the cost of ammo?

1.Please prove it;
2.Please indicate if the price doubled on account of higher taxes or simply on account the ammo manufacturers and retailers are gouging the public who are rushing god knows why to gun stores every time somebody gets killed

Since: May 10

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#137388 Jan 16, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
<quoted text>Well, can you show us any place in our Second Amendment were it gives any government the right to deny any citizen any arm??? It does not even give any government the right to even define what an arm is.
To refresh your memories, an "arm" is a personal weapon. It is not a tank, submarine, fighter plane, a crew served machine gun, etc. But an "arm" includes fully automatic assault rifles.
Learn to Read wrote:
<quoted text>
Sure. Right after you show me the authority of a Texas moron to arrest a Federal Agent for doing their job.
Well, I am still waiting on your words of wit. Whaz da mattar, brain out to lunch?
LRS

Shreveport, LA

#137389 Jan 16, 2013
Learn to Read wrote:
<quoted text>
See Rouge and his sooper troopers pretending the can pass a State law making it illegal to enforce a federal one
I asked you, who was trying to overrule the Constitution? There are only two sides here. One side is upholding the Constitution and the other is trying to change it. So, who's trying to change it?
Jacques Ottawa

Scarborough, Canada

#137390 Jan 16, 2013
LRS wrote:
<quoted text>
Have you been watching the "O" for the past four years? Absolute control makes the man's mouth water! Now, he is on very thin ice. Do not attempt to mess with the Constitution. The "Nazi" NRA? Really? Your last question; No, it's not going to far. I hope La. will join Texas and Wyoming in saying "Back Off". I think he's about to overstep his authority.
I wrote : "But to compare him to Hitler, to say he's some kind of dicatator is going a bit far, no? "

You replied : "No, it's not going to far"

Hitler murdered over 7 million Jews and POWs plus Poles, French, Brits, Germans, Gypsies, etc. He started a war that accounted for over 50 million dead, yes, 50 million, all attributed to him. He enslaved 10s of countries where people, ask the Dutch, literally starved.

Obama is to be compared to that?

And why a dictator? Executive power? Is he the only one to have used it?

“ad maiora nati sumus ”

Since: Sep 09

Justice Scalia is an Oxymoron

#137391 Jan 16, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
<quoted text>
See the 10th Amendment, the federal government can not force states to enforce federal laws.
Wrong. If the federal law requires a state to regulate its administrative procedure to conform with a federal law then it is not a violation of the 10th Amendment. Reno v. Condon, 528 U.S. 141 (2000)(DMV records); City of Abilene v. USEPA, 325 F. 3d 657 -(5th Cir. 2003)(EPA regulation governing pollutants into storm sewers);Freilich v. Upper Chesapeake Health, Inc., 313 F. 3d 205 -(4th Cir. 2002)(Health Care Quality Improvement Act (HCQIA))

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