BARACK OBAMA BIRTH CERTIFICATE: Suit ...

BARACK OBAMA BIRTH CERTIFICATE: Suit contesting Obama's citizen...

There are 242616 comments on the Chicago Tribune story from Jan 8, 2009, titled BARACK OBAMA BIRTH CERTIFICATE: Suit contesting Obama's citizen.... In it, Chicago Tribune reports that:

The U.S. Supreme Court will consider Friday whether to take up a lawsuit challenging President-elect Barack Obama 's U.S. citizenship, a continuation of a New Jersey case embraced by some opponents of Obama's ...

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#115913 Oct 10, 2012
Terri Tanna wrote:
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It was sponsored, but for 800-years in Anglo-American jurisprudence the sponsor's intention or colloquy cannot change the actual plain language of the statute. By not knowing that you admit with great embarrassment for everyone to see that you have never studied and know ABSOLUTELY NOTHING about jurisprudence. SO PATHETIC to be as uneducated as you.
Can you give us just one example of American jurisprudence from 800 years ago? No pictographs please.

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#115914 Oct 10, 2012
Justice Dale wrote:
<quoted text>"Big Lake", you sure weren't in Wichita! No big lakes here, maybe OK or MO, that must be some good shit!
Johannes wrote:
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Ok, perhaps it was Topeka.
There are no big lakes in Kansas. I think they are called livestock ponds.

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#115915 Oct 10, 2012
Terri Tanna wrote:
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NOT TRUE. In our mixed economy there are many examples of free markets -- the CME, for example.
Oligopolies have played a much greater role than governments in making the United States less of a free market economy, but that was just as true in 1789 as it is today.
Of course, the free market is not a description of reality but the benchmark against which we measure the desirability of economic outcomes.
But Tootsie, Your hero Teddy Roosevelt broke them up a hundred years ago.

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#115916 Oct 10, 2012
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
Well, I would not enlist a lawyer or medical doctor to be a captain of a space shuttle!
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two points here. The first, yes, he is/was a MEDICAL Doctor (Flight Surgeon) but he was not the Shuttle Commander, he was flying as a .... passenger.
Are you that stupid to realize that the wings of an aviator and a flight surgeon are not the same.
Terri Tanna wrote:
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Joe Kerwin was a renowned fighter pilot who got bored practicing medicine.
Tootie, Capt Karwin has never been a rated military aviator. He was a Flight Surgeon. But to draw flight pay, as a flight surgeon, he must fly at least 12 hours every quarter.
I not only have flown numerous flight surgeons, I taught an experimental program when Jimmy "The Village Idiot" Carter was president that flight surgeons were given 25 flight hours in four weeks and were allowed to solo. It ended after the second class when a flight surgeon crashed on his solo.
Oh, I refused to solo one of the three flight surgeons during that program. He wore coke-bottle glasses and his landing approaches were hot and at the last second he would flare and almost hit the tail on the ground.
Like I said, the next class another flight surgeon crashed on his solo and a few years later I ran into my student and he thanked me for not signing off his solo.

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#115917 Oct 10, 2012
Terri Tanna wrote:
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At Burger King and other places your education (lack thereof) qualifies you to work, there is no need for the "most qualified" if it costs more money. Don't burn your fingers on the grill.
Well Tootsie, if you were the manager of a Burger King, would you hire a blind person to flip burgers? How about a deft person to be a telephone operator?
Do you know that to get a pilots licence here in the U.S. you must read, speak and understand English but apparently in France that is not a requirement for a private pilot as a dozen years ago two French private pilots rented a plane and got lost in the Los Angles area and violated all kinds of airspace before landing w/o permission at LAX. Thank God the French do not allow blind people to fly!
Oh, IAW the ICAO (United Nations) once you have a pilots licence in your country, you can fly a private plane in all other complying countries. Scary!!!
Ellen1

Dedham, MA

#115918 Oct 10, 2012
unauthorized-user_ wrote:
<quoted text>LOL Obamas book in his own words even says hes born in Kenya. How much you want to bet these idiots even have the book and they still say other wise just to get his worthless [email protected]# back in? Nothing like having our Coward and begging chief back in office for 4 more years.
Only Nobama could bring up our debt 1 trillion more in 4 years then even bush did in 8 years.
Obama's book says that he was born in Hawaii. You are referring to the words of a literary agent in a blurb. She has admitted making the mistake. Obama's father, Barack Hussein Obama I, was in fact born in Kenya---which is where the literary agent got the mistake from. She has admitted to making the mistake.

The “born in Kenya” story is the height of the loony side of the birther movement. It is based on forgeries like that of Lucas D. Smith, and falsifications–such as the claim that Obama’s Kenyan grandmother said that he was born in Kenya—when she actually said right on the same tape that he was born IN HAWAII, and she said in another interview that the first that her family in Kenya had heard of Obama’s birth was in a letter FROM HAWAII.

Lucas D. Smith, a convicted felon, claimed that he went to Kenya and got Obama’s birth certificate at a hospital in Mombasa. But Lucas D. Smith has constantly refused to show proof that he, Smith, had ever gone to Kenya. All that he would have to do would be to show a Kenya stamp on a page of a passport, but Lucas D. Smith has refused to do that, constantly, and he has also constantly refused to say why he will not show that proof.(Moreover, his “birth certificate” uses US date formats [month/day/year] and not the day/month/year format used in Kenya.)

Laying aside for a moment the overwhelming proof that Obama was born in Hawaii, the evidence that Obama was NOT born in Kenya is also very strong. There were a grand total of 21 people who came to the USA from Kenya in 1961. Of these only seven were US citizens. And the birther myth has always been that Obama’s parents went there and returned by plane, but only one person came to the USA from Kenya in 1961 by plane and that person was, wait for it, NOT a US citizen. And Obama’s father did not go to Kenya in 1961 either (making it unlikely that his mother did, since travel late in pregnancy was rare, and even more rare without the husband going along). WND has proved with a FOI Act request that Obama senior stayed in Hawaii throughout 1961.

And the Kenyan government investigated the “born in Kenya” story, and found that it was not true.

“Jon Chessoni, a first secretary at the Kenyan Embassy in Washington, can’t understand why his office gets so many baseless questions about whether Barack Obama was born in Kenya.

“It’s madness,” said Chessoni on Monday.“His father, in 1961, would not even have been in Kenya. When this matter first came up, the Kenyan government did its research and confirmed that these are all baseless claims.””

http://washingtonindependent.com/53654/forged

Obama has a Hawaii birth certificate that says that he was born in Hawaii, in Kapiolani Hospital, and the officials of both parties in Hawaii have confirmed that fact. It is also confirmed by the birth announcement in the Hawaii newspapers in 1961, which were sent to the papers only by the DOH of Hawaii.

Obama’s birth announcement appeared in a section of the newspapers called Health Bureau Statistics. As the name indicates, and as the papers and the DOH also say, ONLY the DOH of Hawaii could send birth notices to the Health Bureau Statistics section of the paper. And the DOH only sent out those notices for children that it had issued birth certificates for, and in 1961 the DOH was not allowed to register the births of children who were not born in Hawaii.

Oh, and there is this:

http://www.obamaconspiracy.org/2011/04/kapiol

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#115919 Oct 10, 2012
During WWII our first jet fighter plane was the Bell P-59. They use to keep a fake propeller on it until just before takeoff. When there were reports of a plane flying around without a propeller a pilot took off wearing a gorilla mask and a derby-style hat. He would then fly next to a normal plane and the reports of a propeller-less plane flying around stopped. After all, what pilot would want to admit seeing a propeller-less plane being flown by a gorilla wearing a derby?
That is where they got the character for the Magilla Gorilla cartoon from!
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Ellen1

Dedham, MA

#115920 Oct 10, 2012
Dale wrote:
<quoted text>Visiting aliens are not subject to the jurisdiction of the Constitution, they are not members of the body politic.
Nice try with the BS.
It is about 50 years since the Beatles had their first concert tour of the USA. They made a lot of money, and they had to pay federal, state and local taxes on the money that they made. If they had not been "subject to the jurisdiction," they would not have to pay those taxes. But they, like US citizens, are subject to the USA and have to pay all the taxes and obey all the laws. Only foreign diplomats and their families are not subject to the jurisdiction and do not have to pay taxes or obey the laws.

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#115922 Oct 10, 2012
Where is Joe Biden? No one has seen him for a weeks! Maybe he does not want to be seen with his mouth open!! Maybe they do not want to give him an opportunity to make another of his famous gaffs.
It is not like Ryan does not have enough of Biden's resent gaffs to comment on during the debate.

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#115923 Oct 10, 2012
I have a question, I have a question! How does anyone make a comeback unless they had been there ....before?
I thought al-Qaida had never been in Iraq so just how can they make a comeback? And just how long have U.S. troops been out of Iraq?

Al-Qaida making comeback in Iraq, officials say
By LARA JAKES and QASSIM ABDUL-ZAHRA | Associated Press – 14 hrs ago

http://news.yahoo.com/al-qaida-making-comebac...
Just Sayin

Toledo, OH

#115925 Oct 10, 2012
OBAMA'S RING:'THERE IS NO GOD BUT ALLAH'

NEW YORK – As a student at Harvard Law School, then-bachelor Barack Obama’s practice of wearing a gold band on his wedding-ring finger puzzled his colleagues.
Now, newly published photographs of Obama from the 1980s show that the ring Obama wore on his wedding-ring finger as an unmarried student is the same ring Michelle Robinson put on his finger at the couple’s wedding ceremony in 1992.

Moreover, according to Arabic-language and Islamic experts, the ring Obama has been wearing for more than 30 years is adorned with the first part of the Islamic declaration of faith, the Shahada:“There is no God except Allah.”
Inscription on Obama's ring

The Shahada is the first of the Five Pillars of Islam, expressing the two fundamental beliefs that make a person a Muslim: There is no god but Allah, and Muhammad is Allah’s prophet.

http://www.wnd.com/2012/10/obamas-ring-there-...
Jacques Ottawa

Toronto, Canada

#115926 Oct 10, 2012
American Lady wrote:
**********B~R~E~A~K~I~N~G***** N~E~W~S**********
Far Leftards are starting a new movement!
It's called OSS..........yep you got it!
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Slang: ocupie st sez me ...
Proof you can't and don't read. Phoney reformed democrat posted that 5 posts above you. Birthers are condemned to repeat their idiocies.
Jacques Ottawa

Toronto, Canada

#115927 Oct 10, 2012
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
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Oh goody, welcome back nebka! I thought they did not allow computers in rubber rooms?
Er, Rogue, the rubber room is not very original. I first attributed it to fellow birther LRS along with nurse Ratched, remember, her and her helper?
Jacques Ottawa

Toronto, Canada

#115928 Oct 10, 2012
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
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Well Tootsie, if you were the manager of a Burger King, would you hire a blind person to flip burgers? How about a deft person to be a telephone operator?
Do you know that to get a pilots licence here in the U.S. you must read, speak and understand English but apparently in France that is not a requirement for a private pilot as a dozen years ago two French private pilots rented a plane and got lost in the Los Angles area and violated all kinds of airspace before landing w/o permission at LAX. Thank God the French do not allow blind people to fly!
Oh, IAW the ICAO (United Nations) once you have a pilots licence in your country, you can fly a private plane in all other complying countries. Scary!!!
You mean those two French pilots were the first to get lost in the United States, the first to violate air space? Never been done before? What about those two AA pilots, with over 150 passengers, who flew about 500 miles past their intended LAX destination 2 or 3 years ago whilst playing computer games? At least, the French only had 2 humans aboard. Want more examples?
Learn to Read

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#115929 Oct 10, 2012
Just Sayin wrote:
OBAMA'S RING:'THERE IS NO GOD BUT ALLAH'

NEW YORK – As a student at Harvard Law School, then-bachelor Barack Obama’s practice of wearing a gold band on his wedding-ring finger puzzled his colleagues.
Now, newly published photographs of Obama from the 1980s show that the ring Obama wore on his wedding-ring finger as an unmarried student is the same ring Michelle Robinson put on his finger at the coupleÂ’s wedding ceremony in 1992.

Moreover, according to Arabic-language and Islamic experts, the ring Obama has been wearing for more than 30 years is adorned with the first part of the Islamic declaration of faith, the Shahada:“There is no God except Allah.”
Inscription on Obama's ring

The Shahada is the first of the Five Pillars of Islam, expressing the two fundamental beliefs that make a person a Muslim: There is no god but Allah, and Muhammad is AllahÂ’s prophet.

http://www.wnd.com/2012/10/obamas-ring-there-...
You WILL believe everything, won't you
Learn to Read

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#115930 Oct 10, 2012
Just Sayin wrote:
OBAMA'S RING:'THERE IS NO GOD BUT ALLAH'

NEW YORK – As a student at Harvard Law School, then-bachelor Barack Obama’s practice of wearing a gold band on his wedding-ring finger puzzled his colleagues...../
What!? How is this possible? JustPastinCrap assured us over and over and over that not one single person even remembered Obama attending Harvard. Now suddenly WingNutDaily says "yeah, you remember him. The single black dude with the wedding band". And suddenly it's "oh yeah! That was so freaky. He wore it all the time but we all knew he wasn't married"

That's the latest fable? ROTFLMO

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#115932 Oct 10, 2012
unauthorized-user_ wrote:
<quoted text>LOL Obamas book in his own words even says hes born in Kenya. How much you want to bet these idiots even have the book and they still say other wise just to get his worthless [email protected]# back in? Nothing like having our Coward and begging chief back in office for 4 more years.
Only Nobama could bring up our debt 1 trillion more in 4 years then even bush did in 8 years.
Watch out, they will call you a redneck or racist, or both now.
LRS

Shreveport, LA

#115933 Oct 10, 2012
Grand Birther wrote:
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Birfer, by "garage" you of course mean "imagination," and by "bike" you of course mean "trike."
What's with birfers and their imaginary bikes?
Girther Barks, if a garage and a motorcycle are imaginary to you, what does that say about your situation? Hmmm? I suppose a double car garage would just blow that wittle brain of yours to pieces. HaHaHaHa Flapper
LRS

Shreveport, LA

#115934 Oct 10, 2012

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#115936 Oct 10, 2012
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
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Well Tootsie, if you were the manager of a Burger King, would you hire a blind person to flip burgers? How about a deft person to be a telephone operator?
Do you know that to get a pilots licence here in the U.S. you must read, speak and understand English but apparently in France that is not a requirement for a private pilot as a dozen years ago two French private pilots rented a plane and got lost in the Los Angles area and violated all kinds of airspace before landing w/o permission at LAX. Thank God the French do not allow blind people to fly!
Oh, IAW the ICAO (United Nations) once you have a pilots licence in your country, you can fly a private plane in all other complying countries. Scary!!!
Jacques Ottawa wrote:
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You mean those two French pilots were the first to get lost in the United States, the first to violate air space? Never been done before? What about those two AA pilots, with over 150 passengers, who flew about 500 miles past their intended LAX destination 2 or 3 years ago whilst playing computer games? At least, the French only had 2 humans aboard. Want more examples?
My post was about qualifications!!!! You can hire a qualified person or the most qualified person. The FAA can give waivers but to the best of my knowledge they have never given on for being deft. But the did give one to a young woman who was born w/o arms.

But Ms Cox is ONLY authorized to fly the Aerocoupe and I doubt if you know why? The Aerocoupe has NO rudder pedals!!!
https://www.google.com/search...
And you are probably saying no big deal, she has feet, but if she uses her feet for the yoke, throttle, etc. she could not use them in a plane that has rudder peddles, can she. It is not like she has four feet!!!
So, she has a medical waiver that restricts her to one type of plane, the Aerocoupe.
Now, how about a short order cook who is blind?

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