BARACK OBAMA BIRTH CERTIFICATE: Suit ...

BARACK OBAMA BIRTH CERTIFICATE: Suit contesting Obama's citizen...

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The U.S. Supreme Court will consider Friday whether to take up a lawsuit challenging President-elect Barack Obama 's U.S. citizenship, a continuation of a New Jersey case embraced by some opponents of Obama's ...

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Jacques Ottawa

Toronto, Canada

#90572 Jul 11, 2012
Terri Tanna wrote:
MAJOR HOLDERS OF U.S. TREASURY OBLIGATIONS
Much of that debt is held by the private sector
but about 45 percent is held by public entities,
including parts of the government. Here's who
owns the most. Foreign countries listed include
both private and public investors, according to
monthly U.S. Treasury data.
Social Security Trust Funds $2,670 billion
U.S. Federal Reserve Banks $1,659 billion
China $1,169 billion
savings bonds investors $1,102 billion
Japan $1,083 billion
U.S. pension funds $ 903 billion
mutual funds $ 798 billion
U.S. state & local gov'ts $ 445 billion
U.S. Medicare Trust Funds $ 325 billion
U.S. banksanddepositories $ 286 billion
oil exporting countries $ 255 billion
U.S. insurance companies $ 254 billion
Brazil $ 237 billion
Caribbean banks $ 225 billion
Taiwan $ 184 billion
========
Russia $ 147 billion
Hong Kong $ 139 billion
http://www.cnbc.com/id/29880401/The_Biggest
_Holders_of_US_Government_Debt ?slide=1
[updated May 31,2012]
Quite acceptable. I would have thought that Chinese, Japanese and petroleum-exporting countries held more. As long as interest rates remain low, not much of a problem. Should they rise 1, 2, or even 3 points, and they could, as Europe's rates are high, will go higher, thereby attracting buyers away from US treasury obligations with the results that to stay competitive, it will have to also increase its rates...snowballing?

“SAVING BIRTHERS FROM IGNORANCE”

Since: Jul 09

The Farm North of Hinsdale

#90574 Jul 11, 2012
“For the professional super-patriots (and assorted “birthers” and tea priests disguised as super-patriots) had only begun to fight. Innumerable patriotic blogs had sprung up, each with its editor, and editors must live, and therefore must conjure up new and EVER GREATER CONSPIRACIES. Innumerable others now discovered that they could defeat whatever they wanted to defeat by tarring it conspicuously with the loony liberal, socialist commie brush. Big-national defense bloggers, anti-evolutionist Fundamentalists, defenders of the moral order and natural rights theories, book censors, Jew-haters, African-American haters, anti-Islamists, anti-any foreigners, small businessmen, upholders of every sort of good cause, good, bad, and ugly, all wrapped themselves in OLD GLORY and the mantle of the FOUNDING FATHERS and allied their opponents with godless liberal socialist communism.... They were told that the liberal colleges and universities were honeycombed with socialist communists intent on subverting our nation’s youth. A cloud of suspicion hung in the air, and intolerance became an American virtue.”
.
From what American classic is this passage taken?
SADLY, no "birther" has figured this out yet.

“SAVING BIRTHERS FROM IGNORANCE”

Since: Jul 09

The Farm North of Hinsdale

#90576 Jul 11, 2012
Jacques Ottawa wrote:
Quite acceptable. I would have thought that Chinese, Japanese and petroleum-exporting countries held more. As long as interest rates remain low, not much of a problem. Should they rise 1, 2, or even 3 points, and they could, as Europe's rates are high, will go higher, thereby attracting buyers away from US treasury obligations with the results that to stay competitive, it will have to also increase its rates...snowballing?
EXCELLENT POINT.
The reason the Obama Treasury has to pay only 1.498% on the ten-year is because international investors would rather receive an infinitesimal rate from the U.S. than a very high rate from Greece or Italy or Spain.
Also REALLY large investors -- the Chinese, the oil producers, the Japanese, etc.-- can buy enormous quantities of our debt without owning a disproportionate amount of it.(Does Greece even have $1.169 Billion of debt outstanding?)

“On Deck”

Since: Aug 08

French Polynesia

#90577 Jul 11, 2012
Jacques,
Do you have any idea who wrote this prophetic commentary, and when?

"It would be well for the proponents of the 'Ivy League' to make it clear (to themselves especially) that the proposed group would be inclusive and not 'exclusive' as this term is used with a slight up-tilting of the nose"

“SAVING BIRTHERS FROM IGNORANCE”

Since: Jul 09

The Farm North of Hinsdale

#90578 Jul 11, 2012
Just Sayin wrote:
He's evidently used it since 1977. Open up the link.
http://www.wnd.com/2012/07/obamas-social-secu...
OPEN THE LINK.
Classic "birther" non-factual reporting. The article merely says that Obama "uses" the wrong social security number. No evidence as to where or how or when he has "used" it.
BTW, why are you so reluctant to post his SSN for all to see.
ANSWER: Because you don't know the number any more than "investigator" Daniels and you lied when you said you posted it before.

“SAVING BIRTHERS FROM IGNORANCE”

Since: Jul 09

The Farm North of Hinsdale

#90579 Jul 11, 2012
Terri Tanna wrote:
"Just as the "Will of 'WE THE PEOPLE'" was spoken so loudly and clearly in the landslide victory (68%) of 2009."
Just Sayin wrote:
True but the Democrats as usual fail to address the underlying fact that 48% of the votes that swayed the electoral college were dead people.
SOURCE?

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#90580 Jul 11, 2012
What, what, what,,,,, the Democrats killed Obama's tax plan? That can't be Rev. Wright!!! Well, maybe it was some evil Republicans who dressed up a Democrats who voted it down?!?

Senate Dems Kill Obama’s Tax Plan
BY BEN SHAPIRO

In a shocking repudiation of President Obama’s “soak the rich” economic plans, Senate Democrats today blocked a vote on President Obama’s proposal to raise taxes on those earning more than $250,000 per year. Senate Republicans had proposed an immediate vote on the measure. In fact, they proposed two votes: one to extend the Bush tax cuts in their totality, the other to raise taxes as per Obama’s plan.“My recommendation is we give the president what he asked for,” said Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell.
The strategy for McConnell and Republicans is simple: they want to show Americans that even Democrats recognize that the Bush tax cuts ought to be extended for all Americans. And Democrats want to avoid that vote, so they can continue posturing and conducting class warfare.
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/...

“SAVING BIRTHERS FROM IGNORANCE”

Since: Jul 09

The Farm North of Hinsdale

#90581 Jul 11, 2012
Siouxweety wrote:
Again, piss off if you don't like what I say!
What part of that don't you understand, Obama ass crack licker?
This phrasing proves that sweatysuzie is really l'il tacky.

“SAVING BIRTHERS FROM IGNORANCE”

Since: Jul 09

The Farm North of Hinsdale

#90582 Jul 11, 2012
nebka wrote:
Here is something for you birther to ponder
Another Frivolous Birther Lawsuit
The birther nuts have come up with a new frivolous lawsuit. This time they’re arguing that health care reform is illegal because Obama is not a natural born citizen. Naturally, the Worldnutdaily is all over it
http://scienceblogs.com/dispatches/2011/01/15...
'Birther' leader Orly Taitz ordered by Supreme Court to pay $20,000 fine for 'frivolous' lawsuit
'Birther' leader Orly Taitz ordered by Supreme Court to pay $20,000 fine for 'frivolous' lawsuit
BY MICHAEL SHERIDAN
DAILY NEWS STAFF WRITER
Monday, August 16, 2010
[U.S.] Supreme Court tells "birther" leader to pay up
A leader of the generally ridiculed movement which believes President Obama was not born in the United States must pay a $20,000 fine she was slapped with in 2009, the nation's highest court ruled Monday.
=
The judge in that case called the lawsuit "frivolous," and accused Taitz of wasting the court's time.
"The Court finds that counsel's conduct was willful and not merely negligent," Judge Clay Land said in a statement in October. "It demonstrates bad faith on her part. As an attorney, she is deemed to have known better."
The judge added: "Counsel's frivolous and sanctionable conduct wasted the defendant's time and valuable judicial resources that could have been devoted to legitimate cases pending with the Court."
Taitz was also accused by Land of not following the rules of the court and of failing "to make coherent legal arguments." She seemed more interested in wasting time with "press conference sound bites and speeches," he said.
http://articles.nydailynews.com/2010-08-16/ne...
Jacques Ottawa

Toronto, Canada

#90583 Jul 11, 2012
Terri Tanna wrote:
“For the professional super-patriots (and assorted “birthers” and tea priests disguised as super-patriots) had only begun to fight. Innumerable patriotic blogs had sprung up, each with its editor, and editors must live, and therefore must conjure up new and EVER GREATER CONSPIRACIES. Innumerable others now discovered that they could defeat whatever they wanted to defeat by tarring it conspicuously with the loony liberal, socialist commie brush. Big-national defense bloggers, anti-evolutionist Fundamentalists, defenders of the moral order and natural rights theories, book censors, Jew-haters, African-American haters, anti-Islamists, anti-any foreigners, small businessmen, upholders of every sort of good cause, good, bad, and ugly, all wrapped themselves in OLD GLORY and the mantle of the FOUNDING FATHERS and allied their opponents with godless liberal socialist communism.... They were told that the liberal colleges and universities were honeycombed with socialist communists intent on subverting our nation’s youth. A cloud of suspicion hung in the air, and intolerance became an American virtue.”
.
From what American classic is this passage taken?
SADLY, no "birther" has figured this out yet.
SADLY, no birther has figured ANYthing out.

“SAVING BIRTHERS FROM IGNORANCE”

Since: Jul 09

The Farm North of Hinsdale

#90584 Jul 11, 2012
akpilot wrote:
It doesn't say anything about "Natural Born Citizen" It sure does say a lot about "Subjects" though- there is a big difference, and there is a significant reason why the founders did not call us "Subjects". You should study it.
BTW, would not his father have fallen under British rule? Which at the time claimed Obama as a "SUBJECT"- or do you not like interjecting british law into our Constitution anymore?
What does your parsing of that case have to do with anything.
The United States Supreme Court has made its conclusive decision SPECIFICALLY with respect to OBAMA'S eligibility.
Kerchner v. Obama, 669 F. Supp. 2d 477 (D.N.J. 2009) aff'd, 612 F.3d 204 (3d Cir. 2010), cert. denied, 131 S. Ct. 663 (2010), upholding the President’s eligibility as a natural-born American citizen.
That case is dispositive of ALL THINGS "BIRTHER."
Just Sayin

Toledo, OH

#90586 Jul 11, 2012
Terri Tanna wrote:
MAJOR HOLDERS OF U.S. TREASURY OBLIGATIONS
Much of that debt is held by the private sector
but about 45 percent is held by public entities,
including parts of the government. Here's who
owns the most. Foreign countries listed include
both private and public investors, according to
monthly U.S. Treasury data.
Social Security Trust Funds $2,670 billion
U.S. Federal Reserve Banks $1,659 billion
China $1,169 billion
savings bonds investors $1,102 billion
Japan $1,083 billion
U.S. pension funds $ 903 billion
mutual funds $ 798 billion
U.S. state & local gov'ts $ 445 billion
U.S. Medicare Trust Funds $ 325 billion
U.S. banksanddepositories $ 286 billion
oil exporting countries $ 255 billion
U.S. insurance companies $ 254 billion
Brazil $ 237 billion
Caribbean banks $ 225 billion
Taiwan $ 184 billion
========
Russia $ 147 billion
Hong Kong $ 139 billion
http://www.cnbc.com/id/29880401/The_Biggest
_Holders_of_US_Government_Debt ?slide=1
[updated May 31,2012]
Great info.

Here is one of the economists I pay attention to.
He is selling a book but some of his information is worth listening to.

The video is sort of long so you may want to save the url and listen to it when you are bored stiff.

http://w3.newsmax.com/a/aftershockb/video47.c...
Just Sayin

Toledo, OH

#90587 Jul 11, 2012
Terri Tanna wrote:
<quoted text>
OPEN THE LINK.
Classic "birther" non-factual reporting. The article merely says that Obama "uses" the wrong social security number. No evidence as to where or how or when he has "used" it.
BTW, why are you so reluctant to post his SSN for all to see.
ANSWER: Because you don't know the number any more than "investigator" Daniels and you lied when you said you posted it before.
The dress is nice but you are typical Obamanut.

I have put two different links on here and you evidently haven't looked at either one.

How do I know this?

Because the first one had his SSN on it and the last one states when he used it and for what purpose.

You can dress em up but you can't take em out.
LRS

Shreveport, LA

#90588 Jul 11, 2012
Jacques Ottawa wrote:
<quoted text>
Should you not be thinking of signing off? You only have vulgar profanities going for you. You're sexually frustrated. Topix is no place to troll for boys, LRS. You'll have no luck, as you're not good enough for "Sheeples" (sic) and the gay birthers won't fess up with their gayness.
Go back to extreme TV fighting, not to mention WWE, and exciting games of bingo. Then on weekends, you and the birther pool gene can get together and shoot tin cans. Oh, I know it's a dangerous sport for you guys, but hey, with Obamacare now in, should not be a big expense to get those slugs out of your derrières.
How it must be shocking to have to look at yourself in the mirror, which I suppose is rare, only when you really have to. Then when you see THAT staring at you is when you know it really sucks to be you, a birther. Bonne chance, pauvre toi.
Hey Buttune, nice of you to spend your time writing to me. Unfortunately, you said nothing, as usual. Typical Dim responses. I do believe Buttune, you're losing your cool. To make a wad that big it's obvious you took my advice and put on your big girl panties. Good decision. I've heard tatless terror is very good at untangling wads such as yours. Perhaps she could lend you a finger? Actually, it's great being me! Retired, plenty of money, seen most of world, 100% debt free and I do what I want when I want. Yea, it really sucks. LMAO Say Buttune, why don't you come down and let us take you on a scenic airboat ride way back in the swamps?

Just take them rascals out in the swamp
Put 'em on their knees and tie 'em to a stump
Let the rattlers and the bugs and the alligators do the rest
Just Sayin

Toledo, OH

#90589 Jul 11, 2012
Terri Tanna wrote:
Terri Tanna wrote:
"Just as the "Will of 'WE THE PEOPLE'" was spoken so loudly and clearly in the landslide victory (68%) of 2009."
<quoted text>
SOURCE?
http://wewillnotbesilenced2008.com/

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#90590 Jul 11, 2012
Jacques Ottawa wrote:
<quoted text>
SADLY, no birther has figured ANYthing out.
And you have?
goldengirl

Draper, UT

#90591 Jul 11, 2012
spud wrote:
Obama doesn't have a birth certificate. In Kenya, they just chisel your name in the cave you were born in.
LOL!!! Love it!!

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#90592 Jul 11, 2012
Just Sayin wrote:
What do you expect from the Chicaholand Gangstar?
goldengirl

Draper, UT

#90593 Jul 11, 2012
obottom is a phoney from the get-go!!

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#90594 Jul 11, 2012
Oh, just to let you know, we Republicans also have our Neanderthals. That had a Republican county meeting here in Florida in which the TEA Party tried to take over and the chairwoman had them arrested.
It is still in civil court!

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