BARACK OBAMA BIRTH CERTIFICATE: Suit ...

BARACK OBAMA BIRTH CERTIFICATE: Suit contesting Obama's citizen...

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The U.S. Supreme Court will consider Friday whether to take up a lawsuit challenging President-elect Barack Obama 's U.S. citizenship, a continuation of a New Jersey case embraced by some opponents of Obama's ...

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#90555 Jul 11, 2012
Jacques Ottawa wrote:
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Rogue wrote : QUOTE "All to often Republicans are treated rudely at the NAACP Conventions " UNQUOTE
Care to show some evidence of that? I'll not hold my breath.
easy!
LRS

Shreveport, LA

#90557 Jul 11, 2012
Ellen wrote:
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Worse than that, far far worse.
They fantasize that the men who had written: "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal" really believed that the US-born children of foreigners were not as good as the US-born children of US citizens and that they believed that BUT never told us about it.
Well, you know, those of us who have had loyal foreign-born parents or grandparents (millions of whom fought in two world wars) resent the idea that the US-born children of foreigners are likely to be less loyal than the US-born children of US-citizens.
And, since there is absolutely no evidence that the writers of the US Constitution did either, then why should we believe that they believed it unless they told us that the did---which of course they didn't.???
Who are you to criticize the United States Constitution? It's our Constitution and will remain so. Don't like it....leave.
Jacques Ottawa

Toronto, Canada

#90558 Jul 11, 2012
LRS wrote:
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Hey Buttune. Do you have on your big girl panties today or do I need to go get my kiddie gloves again? LMAO
Ahhh, more gay phantasms by reliable LRS. I'm not gay, but that is beside the point as unlike you, were I gay, I would not deny it, I'd proudly wear it on my sleeve. But you, noooo, a gay birther? No such thing, ha ha.

You really have no comeback except frustrated gay stuff, vulgarity and anything below the belt (that would of course include your brain, ha ha).

You do not measure up, you don't have the education , the knowledge. I've been kind, sparing, never a harsh word on my part, advised you to quit while you're merely behind. But no, you seem to be such a stickler for punishment. Why?
LRS

Shreveport, LA

#90559 Jul 11, 2012
dem wrote:
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figures a stupid old fkn jagoff like you would be infesting the birther threads.
Lol!
All you do is bitch and complain. A common belly-acher. Don't like that I'm here. Tough. Learn to love it. You may return to the dunce room now.
Jacques Ottawa

Toronto, Canada

#90560 Jul 11, 2012
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
According to Monica, if your cigar starts to smoke, you are doing it way to fast. She recommends Kentucky Jelly.
Oh, and Kentucky Jelly will also prevent the tobacco stains on your lower lips too.
Still obsessed with Clinton's penis, Rogue? And envious too, as you keep coming back, for no particular reason except phantasms with nude Lewsinski AND Clinton. HAS to be that, else why keep mentioning something that happened more than 14 years ago about a man who has not been President for 12 years.
Jacques Ottawa

Toronto, Canada

#90562 Jul 11, 2012
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
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Well, Obama is probably doing what Woodrow Wilson did by send thugs around to beat up any editor of any news paper that wrote anything bad about him.
It is easy, all he has to say "I don't like that article" and someone will do his dirty work. It was like when he said Trayvon Martin was the son he would have like to have had and the entire media turned out to attack Geo. Zimmerman.
Tell us, did the New Black Panthers publish their "Wanted Dead or Alive" poster before or after Obama spoke.
Oh, the Waffle House I go to seems to have no problems.
1. Please show us something that proves Wilson sent thugs to beat up opposing editors. Then tell us which editor or reporter has lately been beaten up on Obama's orders. Again, not holding my breath;

2. He said that about Martin, yes,and nothing wrong with that. BTW, the ENTIRE media? ALL of the media? No exception? Even Fox News? Even WND.com ? You have to turn to Pravda, Czeck media, Hugo Chavez, the Iranian Interior Minister to get your unbiased news now?è

3. The Black Panther wanted poster was not the smartest thing they've ever done, that is for sure. And it was wrong. But did they not withdraw it almost instantly? And tell me, and Rogue, I've asked you this a number of times, tell me of the crimes and felonies committed by the NEW Black Panthers. Go ahead. Again, not holding my breath;

4. Good for you Waffle house-wise, but bet you'll be looking more closely in the future. Perhaps,you should become more sophisticated and a true epicurian by going up a notch or two and frequenting Arby's or Denny's.
LRS

Shreveport, LA

#90563 Jul 11, 2012
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
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Well, Obama is probably doing what Woodrow Wilson did by send thugs around to beat up any editor of any news paper that wrote anything bad about him.
It is easy, all he has to say "I don't like that article" and someone will do his dirty work. It was like when he said Trayvon Martin was the son he would have like to have had and the entire media turned out to attack Geo. Zimmerman.
Tell us, did the New Black Panthers publish their "Wanted Dead or Alive" poster before or after Obama spoke.
Oh, the Waffle House I go to seems to have no problems.
Obo thinks he's going to bring Barry and the Boys back. I hear he wants to reopen The Enterprise. I wonder if it ever really shut down.
LRS

Shreveport, LA

#90564 Jul 11, 2012
dem wrote:
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of course you are here you inbred geriatric kkkhunt.
This is where all you pieces of shit hang out.
Oh little Dim, don't take it so personally. Really! You just moan and groan way too much.
Jacques Ottawa

Toronto, Canada

#90565 Jul 11, 2012
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
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easy!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =KJHzjIDAIVwXX
1. I'm still waiting for the other proofs. Where are they?

2. I watched the video. ONE heckler, ONE. You call that being treated rudely? And he got a hearty round of applause when heckler was hustled out and at the end of his speech.

You do make it up as you go along. Now tell me about a) the dems who rig votes more than the Repubs, b) why you threw that GE jet engine thing in the Czech republic at me, c) proof that Wilson had editors beaten up and d) proof that Obama's doing the same. That's your homework for now, boy, get to it.
Jacques Ottawa

Toronto, Canada

#90566 Jul 11, 2012
LRS wrote:
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Oh little Dim, don't take it so personally. Really! You just moan and groan way too much.
Wow, more Rush-like gay phantasms. Look, LRS, you even come to within 10 yards of dem, he's not gonna moan, he'll just vomit big time.
LRS

Shreveport, LA

#90567 Jul 11, 2012
Jacques Ottawa wrote:
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Wow, more Rush-like gay phantasms. Look, LRS, you even come to within 10 yards of dem, he's not gonna moan, he'll just vomit big time.
Another sick Dim?
Jacques Ottawa

Toronto, Canada

#90568 Jul 11, 2012
LRS wrote:
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Another sick Dim?
Should you not be thinking of signing off? You only have vulgar profanities going for you. You're sexually frustrated. Topix is no place to troll for boys, LRS. You'll have no luck, as you're not good enough for "Sheeples" (sic) and the gay birthers won't fess up with their gayness.

Go back to extreme TV fighting, not to mention WWE, and exciting games of bingo. Then on weekends, you and the birther pool gene can get together and shoot tin cans. Oh, I know it's a dangerous sport for you guys, but hey, with Obamacare now in, should not be a big expense to get those slugs out of your derrières.

How it must be shocking to have to look at yourself in the mirror, which I suppose is rare, only when you really have to. Then when you see THAT staring at you is when you know it really sucks to be you, a birther. Bonne chance, pauvre toi.
Ellen

Arlington, MA

#90569 Jul 11, 2012
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
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Ah, but no one has shown proof positive that he was born anywhere. Good try there Tootsie. But no cigar.
Ah, so you are switching now from the "two-US-parents-required " myth to the "not-born-here" myth. Well, that is not true either. Why not, you ask???

The answer is simply that a birth certificate from a US state is legal proof of birth in that state. That is all that is necessary. But it is especially true when the officials of two different political parties in that state confirm the facts on it, and when they are further confirmed by the birth notices in the Health Bureau Statistics section of two newspapers (which as the name implies was only sent to the papers by the DOH of Hawaii, and at the time only for births in Hawaii), and by the Index Data,

The proof that Obama has shown--short form birth certificate, long form birth certificate, both the images of them and the actual physical copies with the seal on the back shown to the press, repeated confirmations by officials in writing, birth notices, Index Data, a witness who recalls writing home about a birth to a woman named Stanley to her father, also named Stanley----is considerably better than the mere photocopy of a short-form birth certificate shown by Mitt Romney, which does not show the seal, or reveal the name of the hospital or the doctor.

But at least it is a move in the right direction to have given up on the "two-US-parents-required " myth.
Ellen

Arlington, MA

#90570 Jul 11, 2012
LRS wrote:
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Who are you to criticize the United States Constitution? It's our Constitution and will remain so. Don't like it....leave.
I love it. And I love the fact that it does not say that the US-born children of foreigners are not as good as the US-born children of US citizens. It does not say that, not in words or in implication. IF it had said it, it would be the law, and I would have had to have accepted it (though I would not like it). But fortunately, it did not say it, nor did any of the writings of the framers of the US Constitution or the other American leaders at the time.

IF they had said it, that would be the law, but they didn't. And the meaning of Natural Born Citizen came from the common law and referred to the place of birth. That being the case, the US-born children of foreigners are just as eligible to be president as the US-born children of US citizens. And that means that Rubio is eligible, and Jindal is eligible, and Obama also is eligible.(Schwarzenegger is not eligible. He was naturalized. But the millions of Americans born in the USA to foreign parents are all eligible.)

“SAVING BIRTHERS FROM IGNORANCE”

Since: Jul 09

The Farm North of Hinsdale

#90571 Jul 11, 2012

MAJOR HOLDERS OF U.S. TREASURY OBLIGATIONS
Much of that debt is held by the private sector
but about 45 percent is held by public entities,
including parts of the government. Here's who
owns the most. Foreign countries listed include
both private and public investors, according to
monthly U.S. Treasury data.

Social Security Trust Funds $2,670 billion
U.S. Federal Reserve Banks $1,659 billion
China $1,169 billion
savings bonds investors $1,102 billion
Japan $1,083 billion
U.S. pension funds $ 903 billion
mutual funds $ 798 billion
U.S. state & local gov'ts $ 445 billion
U.S. Medicare Trust Funds $ 325 billion
U.S. banksanddepositories $ 286 billion
oil exporting countries $ 255 billion
U.S. insurance companies $ 254 billion
Brazil $ 237 billion
Caribbean banks $ 225 billion
Taiwan $ 184 billion
========
Russia $ 147 billion
Hong Kong $ 139 billion

http://www.cnbc.com/id/29880401/The_Biggest
_Holders_of_US_Government_Debt ?slide=1
[updated May 31,2012]
Jacques Ottawa

Toronto, Canada

#90572 Jul 11, 2012
Terri Tanna wrote:
MAJOR HOLDERS OF U.S. TREASURY OBLIGATIONS
Much of that debt is held by the private sector
but about 45 percent is held by public entities,
including parts of the government. Here's who
owns the most. Foreign countries listed include
both private and public investors, according to
monthly U.S. Treasury data.
Social Security Trust Funds $2,670 billion
U.S. Federal Reserve Banks $1,659 billion
China $1,169 billion
savings bonds investors $1,102 billion
Japan $1,083 billion
U.S. pension funds $ 903 billion
mutual funds $ 798 billion
U.S. state & local gov'ts $ 445 billion
U.S. Medicare Trust Funds $ 325 billion
U.S. banksanddepositories $ 286 billion
oil exporting countries $ 255 billion
U.S. insurance companies $ 254 billion
Brazil $ 237 billion
Caribbean banks $ 225 billion
Taiwan $ 184 billion
========
Russia $ 147 billion
Hong Kong $ 139 billion
http://www.cnbc.com/id/29880401/The_Biggest
_Holders_of_US_Government_Debt ?slide=1
[updated May 31,2012]
Quite acceptable. I would have thought that Chinese, Japanese and petroleum-exporting countries held more. As long as interest rates remain low, not much of a problem. Should they rise 1, 2, or even 3 points, and they could, as Europe's rates are high, will go higher, thereby attracting buyers away from US treasury obligations with the results that to stay competitive, it will have to also increase its rates...snowballing?

“SAVING BIRTHERS FROM IGNORANCE”

Since: Jul 09

The Farm North of Hinsdale

#90574 Jul 11, 2012
“For the professional super-patriots (and assorted “birthers” and tea priests disguised as super-patriots) had only begun to fight. Innumerable patriotic blogs had sprung up, each with its editor, and editors must live, and therefore must conjure up new and EVER GREATER CONSPIRACIES. Innumerable others now discovered that they could defeat whatever they wanted to defeat by tarring it conspicuously with the loony liberal, socialist commie brush. Big-national defense bloggers, anti-evolutionist Fundamentalists, defenders of the moral order and natural rights theories, book censors, Jew-haters, African-American haters, anti-Islamists, anti-any foreigners, small businessmen, upholders of every sort of good cause, good, bad, and ugly, all wrapped themselves in OLD GLORY and the mantle of the FOUNDING FATHERS and allied their opponents with godless liberal socialist communism.... They were told that the liberal colleges and universities were honeycombed with socialist communists intent on subverting our nation’s youth. A cloud of suspicion hung in the air, and intolerance became an American virtue.”
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From what American classic is this passage taken?
SADLY, no "birther" has figured this out yet.

“SAVING BIRTHERS FROM IGNORANCE”

Since: Jul 09

The Farm North of Hinsdale

#90576 Jul 11, 2012
Jacques Ottawa wrote:
Quite acceptable. I would have thought that Chinese, Japanese and petroleum-exporting countries held more. As long as interest rates remain low, not much of a problem. Should they rise 1, 2, or even 3 points, and they could, as Europe's rates are high, will go higher, thereby attracting buyers away from US treasury obligations with the results that to stay competitive, it will have to also increase its rates...snowballing?
EXCELLENT POINT.
The reason the Obama Treasury has to pay only 1.498% on the ten-year is because international investors would rather receive an infinitesimal rate from the U.S. than a very high rate from Greece or Italy or Spain.
Also REALLY large investors -- the Chinese, the oil producers, the Japanese, etc.-- can buy enormous quantities of our debt without owning a disproportionate amount of it.(Does Greece even have $1.169 Billion of debt outstanding?)

“On Deck”

Since: Aug 08

French Polynesia

#90577 Jul 11, 2012
Jacques,
Do you have any idea who wrote this prophetic commentary, and when?

"It would be well for the proponents of the 'Ivy League' to make it clear (to themselves especially) that the proposed group would be inclusive and not 'exclusive' as this term is used with a slight up-tilting of the nose"

“SAVING BIRTHERS FROM IGNORANCE”

Since: Jul 09

The Farm North of Hinsdale

#90578 Jul 11, 2012
Just Sayin wrote:
He's evidently used it since 1977. Open up the link.
http://www.wnd.com/2012/07/obamas-social-secu...
OPEN THE LINK.
Classic "birther" non-factual reporting. The article merely says that Obama "uses" the wrong social security number. No evidence as to where or how or when he has "used" it.
BTW, why are you so reluctant to post his SSN for all to see.
ANSWER: Because you don't know the number any more than "investigator" Daniels and you lied when you said you posted it before.

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