Romney, GOP downplay positive jobs re...

Romney, GOP downplay positive jobs report

There are 135 comments on the www.cbsnews.com story from Oct 5, 2012, titled Romney, GOP downplay positive jobs report. In it, www.cbsnews.com reports that:

For most of his presidency, the unemployment rate hung like a millstone around President Obama's neck.

But today's jobs figures, showing that unemployment last month fell below 8 percent for the first time in 43 months, marked a symbolic breakthrough. Nevertheless, the Republican Party today stressed that a 7.8 percent unemployment rate is hardly something to brag about.

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#117 Oct 5, 2012
Va te faire le enculer wrote:
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I told you this economy is affected by several variables that include the President too but the major effects come from the consumer, private sector, and the Fed Reserve! But because our financial system (and many commodities) is connected with other economies, international economies also affect our economy. At the local level, state and city governments have further impact on the local economy!
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So the post is in a way partly correct!!!!
So then Obama is responsible for BOTH the 43 months of unemployment being at or above 8 AND the rate being 7.8 now?
Va te faire le enculer

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#118 Oct 5, 2012
Susanm wrote:
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So then Obama is responsible for BOTH the 43 months of unemployment being at or above 8 AND the rate being 7.8 now?
If you blame him, then you must blame the private sector, the recent past and practices of past governments, international economies like Europe, and consumers for keeping us stuck.
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If Romney wins, and by December the unemployment drops to 7.4, then you know that the private sector was holding with a political purpose and not because of supply-demand!
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If Obama wins and the unemployment continues to be around 7.5 or higher for several months then OBama is not catering in to the wishes of the private sector or Obama/Bernanke are not stimulating the consumer to consume!
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If you completely eliminate corporate taxes and capital gain taxes, then the private sector will hire regardless what the consumers do in the short term.

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#119 Oct 5, 2012
Va te faire le enculer wrote:
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If you blame him, then you must blame the private sector, the recent past and practices of past governments, international economies like Europe, and consumers for keeping us stuck.
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If Romney wins, and by December the unemployment drops to 7.4, then you know that the private sector was holding with a political purpose and not because of supply-demand!
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If Obama wins and the unemployment continues to be around 7.5 or higher for several months then OBama is not catering in to the wishes of the private sector or Obama/Bernanke are not stimulating the consumer to consume!
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If you completely eliminate corporate taxes and capital gain taxes, then the private sector will hire regardless what the consumers do in the short term.
So then you agree that this is a false statement:

"WeTheSheeple wrote:
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ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzz
The President has very little control over the economy; only the sheeple believe otherwise."

It either can be blamed on the president or it cannot. If the president is going to claim that he is responsible for the number of jobs going up, then he must take responsibility for the 43 previous months of over 8 unemployment.

“ROCK ON ROCKERS!!”

Since: Mar 11

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#121 Oct 5, 2012
Am sure THAT they saw the new Unemployment claims for the week..to make this statement..another WHAT 3,000 added to the list..Obama CAN go on and on ABOUT the 140,000 jobs created..BUT, it doesn't balance out..WHEN folks are still being laid off..NOW does it??
Go Blue

Miami, FL

#122 Oct 6, 2012
Susanm wrote:
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So then Obama is responsible for BOTH the 43 months of unemployment being at or above 8 AND the rate being 7.8 now?
Please explain, what purpose is served by debating, who is responsible for what aspect of a poor economy that started its global downturn in 2007?

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#123 Oct 6, 2012
Susanm wrote:
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Then why does Obama claim credit when something goes well, and blame Bush when it doesn't?
Psssst, it's called politics.

DUH!

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#124 Oct 6, 2012
Susanm wrote:
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So then Obama is responsible for BOTH the 43 months of unemployment being at or above 8 AND the rate being 7.8 now?
The President will get both the credit AND the blame. That's how it works in politics, regardless of the truth.

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#125 Oct 6, 2012
Susanm wrote:
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Then why does Obama claim credit when something goes well, and blame Bush when it doesn't?
Politics.

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#126 Oct 6, 2012
Tony wrote:
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Gas prices are up in California because two refineries are down and not refining gasoline. California has special blends of gasoline for California.
No, that's the EXCUSE the oil barons are using to raise prices.

They make BILLIONS in profits. They could easily have kept prices below $5 (or even $4) if they wanted. They could have said they will take a few less billions in profits for the next couple of months until the refinery problems are solved.

Instead they used it as a good excuse to RAISE their profit margin.
America is Not the Same

Overland Park, KS

#127 Oct 6, 2012
A LIBERAL Magazine in N.Y has Romeny talking to an empty chair on it's cover PRICELESS

May be some liberals are waking up
America is Not the Same

Overland Park, KS

#128 Oct 6, 2012
Colorado Chick wrote:
Am sure THAT they saw the new Unemployment claims for the week..to make this statement..another WHAT 3,000 added to the list..Obama CAN go on and on ABOUT the 140,000 jobs created..BUT, it doesn't balance out..WHEN folks are still being laid off..NOW does it??
Last month the rate was 8.1
In only 1 month it went down to 7.8 with only 114,000 job creation which fall way short to bring the rate numbers down.
The math don't add up. This is a false number as was all the %.
Actually the rate is at 14%.
CHICAGO STYLE POLITICS IS IN FULL SWING WITH OBAMA AND HIS THUGS.

What was not counted was the people who ran out of unemployment benefits and those who JUST gave up looking for work.

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#129 Oct 6, 2012
America is Not the Same wrote:
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Last month the rate was 8.1
In only 1 month it went down to 7.8 with only 114,000 job creation which fall way short to bring the rate numbers down.
The math don't add up. This is a false number as was all the %.
Actually the rate is at 14%.
CHICAGO STYLE POLITICS IS IN FULL SWING WITH OBAMA AND HIS THUGS.
What was not counted was the people who ran out of unemployment benefits and those who JUST gave up looking for work.
And yet the official number reported by the govt & every new agency is 7.8%.

Sucks to be a crybaby conservative........

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#130 Oct 6, 2012
WeTheSheeple wrote:
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The President will get both the credit AND the blame. That's how it works in politics, regardless of the truth.
It's nice to see someone finally admit that Obama is to blame for the 43 months of unemployment being above 8.

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#131 Oct 6, 2012
Susanm wrote:
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It's nice to see someone finally admit that Obama is to blame for the 43 months of unemployment being above 8.
Wrong again.

I never said the President is to blame; I said the President will GET the blame, just as he will GET the credit for bringing unemployment under 8%.

Can you understand the difference?

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#132 Oct 6, 2012
WeTheSheeple wrote:
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Wrong again.
I never said the President is to blame; I said the President will GET the blame, just as he will GET the credit for bringing unemployment under 8%.
Can you understand the difference?
How far into a presidents term do they begin to be responsible for what happens during their term?

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#133 Oct 6, 2012
Susanm wrote:
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How far into a presidents term do they begin to be responsible for what happens during their term?
Presidents are responsible for what they do no matter how long they've been in office.

The point is NO president controls employment in the US, but they WILL get the credit or blame for the unemployment rate.

Presidents get credit/blame for all sorts of things they actually have no control over- i.e. unumployment, the stock market, the housing market, teen pregnancies, global warming, ice ages, comets, drunk driving, hurricanes, tornados, blizzards, boy scout sexual abuse, panda cub deaths, monkey butt, etc, etc, etc....

Basically ANYTHING that happens to ANYONE during a president's term will be laid at his/her doorstep.

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#134 Oct 6, 2012
WeTheSheeple wrote:
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Presidents are responsible for what they do no matter how long they've been in office.
The point is NO president controls employment in the US, but they WILL get the credit or blame for the unemployment rate.
Presidents get credit/blame for all sorts of things they actually have no control over- i.e. unumployment, the stock market, the housing market, teen pregnancies, global warming, ice ages, comets, drunk driving, hurricanes, tornados, blizzards, boy scout sexual abuse, panda cub deaths, monkey butt, etc, etc, etc....
Basically ANYTHING that happens to ANYONE during a president's term will be laid at his/her doorstep.
Then why does Obama keep blaming Bush instead of taking responsibility for wht has happened during his term in office?

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#135 Oct 6, 2012
Susanm wrote:
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Then why does Obama keep blaming Bush instead of taking responsibility for wht has happened during his term in office?
Obama takes responsibility for all the good things that happened under his watch, but blames others for all the bad.

Just like all politicians do.

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#136 Oct 6, 2012
WeTheSheeple wrote:
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Obama takes responsibility for all the good things that happened under his watch, but blames others for all the bad.
Just like all politicians do.
It's too bad that he doesn't have much good to take responsibility for.

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#137 Oct 6, 2012
Susanm wrote:
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It's too bad that he doesn't have much good to take responsibility for.
DOW doubled.
Iraq war ended.
Economy improving.
Healthcare reform.
DADT ended.
Housing market recovering.
Bin Laden & many other terrorists dead.
Etc.

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