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Obama promises more than 600,000 stimulus jobs

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President Barack Obama promised Monday to deliver more than 600,000 jobs through his $787 billion stimulus plan this summer, with federal agencies pumping billions into public works projects, schools and summer youth programs.

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Since: Jul 12

Fort Huachuca, AZ

#118288 Nov 20, 2012
Pittakos wrote:
<quoted text>
Why the fear of allowing discussion on differing views in schools? I don't believe in a young earth but at the same time, I have a very difficult time accepting that we are an accidental product of the big bang. The odds are stacked so tremendously against it that it isn't even feasible let alone reproducible. If minds are to be opened to ideas in the search for truth, then all possibilities need to be presented. They don't need to be promoted but just presented as ideas.
BTW: I am all for an elective course comparing religions and their beliefs.
joe

Corte Madera, CA

#118289 Nov 20, 2012
Pittakos wrote:
<quoted text>
I don't understand your comment on the article. What are you trying to say? I thought he gave a well balanced answer without forcing his personal beliefs on everyone else.
Reality check:

Any public official/candidate/office holder who says he doesn't know the answer to that question is a LIAR! They are not equal conclusions. The age of the planet is a known FACT, period. What the Bible says is a BELIEF.

This is why the Republican party is doomed. You guys don't know the difference. And you don't have ANY tolerance for people who don't go along with your mistaken ideas about the world we ALL live in.
joe

Corte Madera, CA

#118290 Nov 20, 2012
A prosecutor in Wisconsin said Monday that Gov. Scott Walker(R) and top aides participated in a scheme to run campaign operations from government-owned offices, according to a report by The Milwaukee-Wisconsin Journal Sentinel.

Monday’s hearing resulted in former Walker deputy chief of staff Kelly M. Rindfleisch being sentenced to six months in prison and three years of probation for knowingly attending to campaign duties while working on county time during the last year of Walker’s term as executive of Milwaukee County.

Assistant District Attorney Bruce Landgraf reportedly claimed that Rindfleisch was just one member of what Walker had designated as a campaign group within his inner-circles. The group was said to include top county officials, along with Walker himself.

Landgraf added that the campaign group was so involved in county business that they were vetting public news releases and coordinating conference calls to make sure the county office was “in sync” with the campaign.

Though the investigation is still ongoing, the prosecutor did not say whether Walker is being targeted. Walker’s former top aide, chief of staff Timothy Russell, faces trial for embezzlement next month.

Since: Nov 08

Provo, UT

#118291 Nov 20, 2012
joe wrote:
<quoted text>
Reality check:
Any public official/candidate/office holder who says he doesn't know the answer to that question is a LIAR! They are not equal conclusions. The age of the planet is a known FACT, period. What the Bible says is a BELIEF.
This is why the Republican party is doomed. You guys don't know the difference. And you don't have ANY tolerance for people who don't go along with your mistaken ideas about the world we ALL live in.
Uhhhhh, who's being intolerant?

The Bible actually says many different things to different people. I happen to believe that the earth is about as old as the scientists say but I also happen to believe that the creation was a directed event just due to the overwhelming odds that we would exist merely from an accident. Yes, there are some who take the Bible literally when it says "days" to describe the creation process. I happen to disagree with that point of view so you can't just lump every person who believes in the Bible into a single group.
Now, what scientists say about the creation is also a belief because none of them were there to witness it. They've got some pretty strong evidence for certain events but it is still a belief and a belief that will probably continue to evolve as more information is discovered. They can't replicate and prove their belief no more than a creationist can prove that they are right.
I still believe that the answer that was given was a well balanced answer without trying to take sides but merely leaving it up to an open mind.

Since: Nov 08

Provo, UT

#118292 Nov 20, 2012
okb2 wrote:
<quoted text>
If you want church views made to look silly in science class go for it. And understand, there are about as many different church views as there are religions. What are the churches that believe in creationism and "new" earth going to say when the HS science teacher shows students how silly those idea's are?
Are we going to teach the Catholic view and the Hopi Indian beliefs as well?
I think you misunderstand what I am saying. There is a difference between teaching something and presenting something. I have proposed the latter. When I teach that two plus two equals four, that is a fact. When I say that there are differing views on how the world was created and here are some of them, I am presenting information that is left for the individual to think about and pursue should they so desire but it is not presented as fact. Do we need to fear information or thought? I don't think so.
joe

Corte Madera, CA

#118293 Nov 20, 2012
Pittakos wrote:
<quoted text>
Uhhhhh, who's being intolerant?
The Bible actually says many different things to different people. I happen to believe that the earth is about as old as the scientists say but I also happen to believe that the creation was a directed event just due to the overwhelming odds that we would exist merely from an accident. Yes, there are some who take the Bible literally when it says "days" to describe the creation process. I happen to disagree with that point of view so you can't just lump every person who believes in the Bible into a single group.
Now, what scientists say about the creation is also a belief because none of them were there to witness it. They've got some pretty strong evidence for certain events but it is still a belief and a belief that will probably continue to evolve as more information is discovered. They can't replicate and prove their belief no more than a creationist can prove that they are right.
I still believe that the answer that was given was a well balanced answer without trying to take sides but merely leaving it up to an open mind.
The question was: How old do you think the Earth is?

Pretty simple question. Why the convoluted answer? Rubio was the one who went off the rails by trying to dodge a direct question. You answered it and then also went into creation-ism type unrelated stuff that is in the province of religion. No one cares which of the hundreds of religious explanations about creation you want to believe in but science says:

The age of the Earth is 4.54 ± 0.05 billion years (4.54 × 109 years ± 1%).[1][2][3] This age is based on evidence from radiometric age dating of meteorite material and is consistent with the ages of the oldest-known terrestrial and lunar samples. Following the scientific revolution and the development of radiometric age dating, measurements of lead in uranium-rich minerals showed that some were in excess of a billion years old.

There is no alternative based on anybody's religious belief. The correct answer is science the other is/are religion, mysticism, fantasy, personal guessing, fairy tale, etc. They are not equivalent things, do you understand? Gravity is not the same as heaven.

And as long as fundamentalist thinking continues to require our children to be told that the way the world works is merely how one decides what to believe they will continue to become more and more irrelevant and ridiculous.
joe

Corte Madera, CA

#118294 Nov 20, 2012
And, I might add, that's why the Republican party was so soundly defeated. Most Americans do not believe any longer in the Republican fantasy of "job creators". Jobs are created when there is, a prior i, a desire or need by consumers for products and services. That's why your fantasy "job creator's" aren't hiring. And it's also why government can help the economy by creating public jobs for people. It puts money in pockets, get it? It facilitates spending.

Since: Jul 12

Columbia, MD

#118295 Nov 20, 2012
Pittakos wrote:
<quoted text>
Uhhhhh, who's being intolerant?
The Bible actually says many different things to different people. I happen to believe that the earth is about as old as the scientists say but I also happen to believe that the creation was a directed event just due to the overwhelming odds that we would exist merely from an accident. Yes, there are some who take the Bible literally when it says "days" to describe the creation process. I happen to disagree with that point of view so you can't just lump every person who believes in the Bible into a single group.
Now, what scientists say about the creation is also a belief because none of them were there to witness it. They've got some pretty strong evidence for certain events but it is still a belief and a belief that will probably continue to evolve as more information is discovered. They can't replicate and prove their belief no more than a creationist can prove that they are right.
I still believe that the answer that was given was a well balanced answer without trying to take sides but merely leaving it up to an open mind.
The difference is one is a point of view or belief and the other is based on science. It has nothing to do with tolerance. It has to do with the proper place to "teach" things.

Scientists say very little to nothing about creation and what they do say before they have evidence to prove it is widely recognized within the scientific community (meaning they know they don't have proof).

What they do know they can prove scientifically. I don't have to be present when someone has been shot to figure out what happened.

I told you before, put them (science and religion) in the same classroom and religion will lose. And when it loses people will stop believing.

Since: Jul 12

Columbia, MD

#118296 Nov 20, 2012
Pittakos wrote:
<quoted text>
I think you misunderstand what I am saying. There is a difference between teaching something and presenting something. I have proposed the latter. When I teach that two plus two equals four, that is a fact. When I say that there are differing views on how the world was created and here are some of them, I am presenting information that is left for the individual to think about and pursue should they so desire but it is not presented as fact. Do we need to fear information or thought? I don't think so.
Provided churches are required to do the same thing and parents are required to do the same thing.....

But it does sound like something that would presented as a comparative religion class and in that context.
joe

Corte Madera, CA

#118297 Nov 20, 2012
Believe it or not, the federal deficit has fallen faster over the past three years than it has in any such stretch since demobilization from World War II.

In fact, outside of that post-WWII era, the only time the deficit has fallen faster was when the economy relapsed in 1937, turning the Great Depression into a decade-long affair.

If U.S. history offers any guide, we are already testing the speed limits of a fiscal consolidation that doesn't risk backfiring. That's why the best way to address the fiscal cliff likely is to postpone it.

Since: Jul 12

Fort Huachuca, AZ

#118299 Nov 21, 2012
joe wrote:
Believe it or not, the federal deficit has fallen faster over the past three years than it has in any such stretch since demobilization from World War II.
In fact, outside of that post-WWII era, the only time the deficit has fallen faster was when the economy relapsed in 1937, turning the Great Depression into a decade-long affair.
If U.S. history offers any guide, we are already testing the speed limits of a fiscal consolidation that doesn't risk backfiring. That's why the best way to address the fiscal cliff likely is to postpone it.
You must be talking reduction as a percentage of GDP. For me I would like to see spending cuts and tax increases. The danger that rising interest rates pose combined with a budget that is already way out of balance is a risk that we do not need to take and would be foolish to take at this time.
Fox News Makes You Stupid

New York, NY

#118300 Nov 21, 2012
The Tea Party sold out to Wall Street
GOP freshmen, big-bucks donors hobnob at resort
March 16, 2012 / http://tinyurl.com/85yw3o9
Sandy Adams (Fla.), Quico Canseco (Texas), Rick Crawford (Ark.), Bob Dold (Ill.), Sean Duffy (Wis.), Stephen Fincher (Tenn.), Mike Fitzpatrick (Penn.), Daniel Webster (Fla.), Mike Grimm (N.Y.), Nan Hayworth (N.Y.), Jim Renacci (Ohio) and Cory Gardner (Col).
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-505267_162-573986...

Bush Republicans Love Socialism For The Wealthiest !

Dumbya Bush Loves Cheap Labor:

The 12 million illegal immigrants benefit the top 1 percentile of the wealthiest

Former Harvard Business School Prof Blasts Bush
7/16/2004 http://tinyurl.com/z555z

Business scholar says president was 'shallow,''flippant' in 1970s class

Tsurumi—now a professor of international business at Baruch College in the City University of New York—said he remembers the future president as scoring in the bottom 10 percent of students in the class.

The White House did not reply to requests for comment on Bush’s time at HBS.

Tsurumi said he particularly recalls Bush’s right-wing extremism at the time, which he said was reflected in off-hand comments equating the New Deal of the 1930s with socialism and the corporation-regulating Securities and Exchange Commission with “an enemy of capitalism.”

“I vividly remember that he made a comment saying that people are poor because they’re lazy,” Tsurumi said.

Tsurumi also said Bush displayed a sense of arrogance about his prominent family, including his father, former U.S. President George H.W. Bush.

“[George W. Bush] didn’t stand out as the most promising student, but...he made it sure we understood how well he was connected,” Tsurumi said.“He wasn’t bashful about how he was being pushed upward by Dad’s connections.”

Tsurumi said that the younger Bush boasted that his father’s political string-pulling had gotten him to the top of the waiting list for the Texas National Guard instead of serving in Vietnam. When other students were frantically scrambling for summer jobs, Tsurumi said, Bush explained that he was planning instead for a visit to his father in Beijing, where the senior Bush was serving at the time as the special U.S. envoy to China.
http://www.thecrimson.com/printerfriendly.asp...
frogmann

Masontown, PA

#118301 Nov 21, 2012
youtube.com/watch... ………obama created hostess going out of business?
joe

Corte Madera, CA

#118302 Nov 21, 2012
okb2 wrote:
<quoted text>
You must be talking reduction as a percentage of GDP. For me I would like to see spending cuts and tax increases. The danger that rising interest rates pose combined with a budget that is already way out of balance is a risk that we do not need to take and would be foolish to take at this time.
I haven't seen any indication of rising interest rates. Actually, they just went down again.
soapmann

Masontown, PA

#118303 Nov 22, 2012
youtube.com/watch... ……
Obama did produce any such jobs even Hostess can say so?

Since: Jul 12

Washington, DC

#118304 Nov 22, 2012
joe wrote:
<quoted text>
I haven't seen any indication of rising interest rates. Actually, they just went down again.
You won't see any indication of them until they are here.

Inflation will cause a rise in interest rates which will cause further inflation....... It is a vicious cycle that feeds on itself.
This Makes Sense

United States

#118305 Nov 22, 2012
This could really make a difference!!!
>
> Just a thought for all of you that like to plan ahead…
>
> As the holidays approach, the giant Asian factories are kicking into high
> gear to provide Americans with monstrous piles of cheaply produced goods --
> merchandise that has been produced at the expense of American labour. This
> year will be different. This year Americans will give the gift of genuine
> concern for other Americans. There is no longer an excuse that, at gift
> giving time, nothing can be found that is produced by American hands. Yes
> there is!
>
> It's time to think outside the box, people. Who says a gift needs to fit
> in a shirt box, wrapped in Chinese produced wrapping paper?
> Everyone -- yes EVERYONE gets their hair cut. How about gift certificates
> from your local American hair salon or barber?
>
> Gym membership? It's appropriate for all ages who are thinking about some
> health improvement.
>
> Who wouldn't appreciate getting their car detailed? Small American owned
> detail shops and car washes would love to sell you a gift certificate or
> a book of gift certificates.
>
> Are you one of those extravagant givers who think nothing of plonking down
> your dollars on a Chinese made flat-screen? Perhaps that grateful gift
> receiver would like his driveway sealed, or lawn mowed for the summer, or
> driveway plowed all winter, or games at the local golf course.
>
> There are a bazillion owner-run restaurants -- all offering gift
> certificates. And, if your intended isn't the fancy eatery sort, what about
> a half dozen breakfasts at the local breakfast joint. Remember, folks this
> isn't about big National chains -- this is about supporting your home town
> American with their financial lives on the line to keep their doors open.
>
> How many people couldn't use an oil change for their car, truck or
> motorcycle, done at a shop run by the American working guy?
>
> Thinking about a heartfelt gift for mom? Mom would LOVE the services of a
> local cleaning lady for a day.
>
> My computer could use a tune-up, and I KNOW I can find some young guy who is
> struggling to get his repair business up and running.
>
> OK, you were looking for something more personal. Local crafts people spin
> their own wool and knit them into scarves. They make jewelery, and pottery
> and beautiful wooden boxes.
>
> Plan your holiday outings at local, owner operated restaurants and leave
> your server a nice tip. And, how about going out to see a play or ballet at
> your hometown theatre.
>
> Musicians need love too, so find a venue showcasing local bands.
>
> Honestly, people, do you REALLY need to buy another ten thousand Chinese
> lights for the house? When you buy a five dollar string of lights, about
> fifty cents stays in the community. If you have those kinds of bucks to
> burn, leave the mailman, trash guy or babysitter a nice BIG tip.
>
> You see, Christmas is no longer about draining American pockets so
> that China can build another glittering city. Christmas is now about
> caring about us, encouraging American small businesses to keep plugging away
> to follow their dreams. And, when we care about other Americans we care
> about our communities, and the benefits come back to us in ways we
> couldn't imagine.
>
> THIS is the new North American Christmas tradition.
>
> Forward this to everyone on your mailing list -- post it to discussion
> groups -- throw up a post on Craigslist in the Rants and Raves section in
> your city -- send it to the editor of your local paper and radio stations,
> and TV news departments. This is a revolution of caring about each other,
> and isn't that what Christmas is about?
>
> BUY AMERICAN - BE AMERICAN -
> The job you save might be your own
> and don't forget homemade anything...!!!
>>
>
> --
> It's never too late to become what you could have been.
>
This Makes Sense

United States

#118306 Nov 22, 2012
This could really make a difference!!!
>
> Just a thought for all of you that like to plan ahead…
>
> As the holidays approach, the giant Asian factories are kicking into high
> gear to provide Americans with monstrous piles of cheaply produced goods --
> merchandise that has been produced at the expense of American labour. This
> year will be different. This year Americans will give the gift of genuine
> concern for other Americans. There is no longer an excuse that, at gift
> giving time, nothing can be found that is produced by American hands. Yes
> there is!
>
> It's time to think outside the box, people. Who says a gift needs to fit
> in a shirt box, wrapped in Chinese produced wrapping paper?
> Everyone -- yes EVERYONE gets their hair cut. How about gift certificates
> from your local American hair salon or barber?
>
> Gym membership? It's appropriate for all ages who are thinking about some
> health improvement.
>
> Who wouldn't appreciate getting their car detailed? Small American owned
> detail shops and car washes would love to sell you a gift certificate or
> a book of gift certificates.
>
> Are you one of those extravagant givers who think nothing of plonking down
> your dollars on a Chinese made flat-screen? Perhaps that grateful gift
> receiver would like his driveway sealed, or lawn mowed for the summer, or
> driveway plowed all winter, or games at the local golf course.
>
> There are a bazillion owner-run restaurants -- all offering gift
> certificates. And, if your intended isn't the fancy eatery sort, what about
> a half dozen breakfasts at the local breakfast joint. Remember, folks this
> isn't about big National chains -- this is about supporting your home town
> American with their financial lives on the line to keep their doors open.
>
> How many people couldn't use an oil change for their car, truck or
> motorcycle, done at a shop run by the American working guy?
>
> Thinking about a heartfelt gift for mom? Mom would LOVE the services of a
> local cleaning lady for a day.
>
> My computer could use a tune-up, and I KNOW I can find some young guy who is
> struggling to get his repair business up and running.
>
> OK, you were looking for something more personal. Local crafts people spin
> their own wool and knit them into scarves. They make jewelery, and pottery
> and beautiful wooden boxes.
>
> Plan your holiday outings at local, owner operated restaurants and leave
> your server a nice tip. And, how about going out to see a play or ballet at
> your hometown theatre.
>
> Musicians need love too, so find a venue showcasing local bands.
>
> Honestly, people, do you REALLY need to buy another ten thousand Chinese
> lights for the house? When you buy a five dollar string of lights, about
> fifty cents stays in the community. If you have those kinds of bucks to
> burn, leave the mailman, trash guy or babysitter a nice BIG tip.
>
> You see, Christmas is no longer about draining American pockets so
> that China can build another glittering city. Christmas is now about
> caring about us, encouraging American small businesses to keep plugging away
> to follow their dreams. And, when we care about other Americans we care
> about our communities, and the benefits come back to us in ways we
> couldn't imagine.
>
> THIS is the new North American Christmas tradition.
>
> Forward this to everyone on your mailing list -- post it to discussion
> groups -- throw up a post on Craigslist in the Rants and Raves section in
> your city -- send it to the editor of your local paper and radio stations,
> and TV news departments. This is a revolution of caring about each other,
> and isn't that what Christmas is about?
>
> BUY AMERICAN - BE AMERICAN -
> The job you save might be your own
> and don't forget homemade anything...!!!
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --
> It's never too late to become what you could have been.
>
joe

Corte Madera, CA

#118307 Nov 26, 2012
I see the right-wingers have taken a powder.
Ihategaysandfemi nist

Birmingham, AL

#118308 Nov 26, 2012
L.A. County courthouses to close
Budget cuts are forcing the shuttering of courthouses in Beverly Hills, West Los Angeles, Malibu and other locations. The closures are expected to occur over the next eight months.

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