Presidents often struggle in first de...

Presidents often struggle in first debates

There are 440 comments on the USA Today story from Oct 2, 2012, titled Presidents often struggle in first debates. In it, USA Today reports that:

When President Obama steps onto the debate stage Wednesday night in Denver, he'll seek to avoid what might be called "incumbents opening debate syndrome." Presidents seeking re-election have often struggled in their first debates: Jimmy Carter, Ronald Reagan, George H.W. Bush, and George W. Bush.

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Papillon

Sacramento, CA

#179 Oct 3, 2012
********** REMEMBER IN NOVEMBER **********

1- When you think of 9/11, think of muslims.
2- When you think of muslims, think of 9/11.
3- When you think of Barrack HUSSEIN Obama think of 1 & 2.

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Better a God-loving and decent Mormon than a racist and corrupt islamofascist.

Mothra

Phoenix, AZ

#180 Oct 3, 2012
Responsibility wrote:
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A pundit described ROmney as jello - can jello drown too? LOLL
5. sound-bite bullshyt

I see you're adding to your repertoire:

1. Sanctimonious bullshyt
2. Elitist bullshyt
3. Racist bullshyt
4. Hatin' Palin bullshyt

But they still all have the same common denominator.

“Hillary, thirty years of lying”

Since: Nov 08

Paris

#182 Oct 3, 2012
Responsibility wrote:
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Strategic Allied Consulting
and were properly fired.......ACORN now that's another story....they are still around and still hidding under other names.

“Hillary, thirty years of lying”

Since: Nov 08

Paris

#183 Oct 3, 2012
Responsibility wrote:
<quoted text>
A pundit described ROmney as jello - can jello drown too? LOLL
National, Fla., Va. poll numbers tighten...

POLL: 53% See Election As Referendum on Obama's Agenda...

Obama campaign gives Florida voters bad info about early voting...

Woodward:'Obama Is Proposing Cutting Medicare'...

Campaign:'Vote Like Your Lady Parts Depend On It'... pimp my vote
Cat74

United States

#184 Oct 3, 2012
I won'tt watch the debate, but I will tape it so I can edit it. I am not interested in any more Presidential fairy tales.
Tony

Broken Arrow, OK

#185 Oct 3, 2012
Romney has such a enormous advantage in the debate. Romney has spent half his life running for office unsuccessfully thank god. He has had been in so many debates it is hard to count them all. Romney just does not seem to get the hint that Americans do not want him.
Tony

Broken Arrow, OK

#186 Oct 3, 2012
Cat74 wrote:
I won'tt watch the debate, but I will tape it so I can edit it. I am not interested in any more Presidential fairy tales.
That is what Republicans like you do best is to edit tapes and distort them for their political advantage. Republicans can not win on a level playing field or on true facts only by lies. deceit, and distortion of facts.
Republicans continue to register dead people for Republican voters.
Tony

Broken Arrow, OK

#187 Oct 3, 2012
Rich want to bet $10,000 well do you Rick.
Mitt Romney

“Hillary, thirty years of lying”

Since: Nov 08

Paris

#189 Oct 3, 2012
Tony wrote:
<quoted text>
That is what Republicans like you do best is to edit tapes and distort them for their political advantage. Republicans can not win on a level playing field or on true facts only by lies. deceit, and distortion of facts.
Republicans continue to register dead people for Republican voters.
Sensitive documents left behind at American mission in Libya

By Michael Birnbaum, Wednesday, October 3, 2:19

PMThe Washington Post

BENGHAZI, Libya ó More than three weeks after attacks in this city killed the U.S. ambassador to Libya and three other Americans, sensitive documents remained only loosely secured in the remains of the U.S. mission here on Wednesday, offering visitors easy access to delicate details about American operations in Libya.

Documents detailing weapons collection efforts, emergency evacuation protocols, the full internal itinerary of Ambassador J. Christopher Stevensís trip and the personnel records of Libyans who were contracted to secure the mission were among the items scattered across the floors of the looted compound when a Washington Post reporter and a translator visited Wednesday.

DOCUMENTS: A sampling of the documents discovered by a Washington Post reporter on Oct. 3, 2012, in the remains of the U.S. mission in Benghazi.
Although the gates to the compound were locked several days after the attacks, looters and curiosity-seekers were free to roam in the initial chaotic aftermath, and many documents may already have disappeared.

No government-provided security forces are guarding the compound, and Libyan investigators have visited just once, according to a member of the family who owns the compound and who allowed the journalists to enter Wednesday.

Commander in Fraud........yeah babie. THE ONLY REASON OBAMA SPIKES THE FOOTBALL IS BECAUSE HE CAN'T THROW IT ANY FURTHER.
Responsibility

Redwood City, CA

#190 Oct 3, 2012
Mothra wrote:
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Further to the etch-a-sketch analogy, a pundit described ROmney as jello.

He should be fine in the debate because hasn't he been tewwtored, trained, edewwwcated, etc. since June?
Responsibility

Redwood City, CA

#191 Oct 3, 2012
Tony wrote:
<quoted text> That is what Republicans like you do best is to edit tapes and distort them for their political advantage. Republicans can not win on a level playing field or on true facts only by lies. deceit, and distortion of facts. Republicans continue to register dead people for Republican voters.
GOP hire - Strategic Allied Consultants
Responsibility

Redwood City, CA

#192 Oct 3, 2012
Le Jimbo wrote:
<quoted text>pimp my vote
The GOP consulting firm - Strategic Allied Consultants

“Hillary, thirty years of lying”

Since: Nov 08

Paris

#193 Oct 3, 2012
Responsibility wrote:
<quoted text>
Further to the etch-a-sketch analogy, a pundit described ROmney as jello.
He should be fine in the debate because hasn't he been tewwtored, trained, edewwwcated, etc. since June?
Obama has given the same speeches and campaigned since elected......When he leaves the White House in January, he will have finally done something to help the contry.

Obama to the Presidency is what the Volt is to GM......expensive and a failure.

“Hillary, thirty years of lying”

Since: Nov 08

Paris

#194 Oct 3, 2012
Responsibility wrote:
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GOP hire - Strategic Allied Consultants
Obama Hire......11 endictments. ACORN
Razors Edge

Palos Hills, IL

#195 Oct 3, 2012
Military Awards

West's awards and decorations include the Bronze Star; Meritorious Service Medal (two Oak Leaf Clusters); Army Commendation Medal (three Oak Leaf Clusters, one Valor Device); Army Achievement Medal (one Oak Leaf Cluster); Valorous Unit Award; Air Assault Badge; and the Master Parachutist Badge.[3]

[edit] Iraq interrogation incident

While serving in Taji, Iraq, West received information from an intelligence specialist about a reported plot to ambush him and his men.[11] The alleged plot reportedly involved Yahya Jhodri Hamoodi, a civilian Iraqi police officer.[11] West, who was not responsible for conducting interrogations in Iraq and had never conducted nor witnessed one, had his men detain Hamoodi.[11] In the process of detaining Mr. Hamoodi, soldiers testified that Hamoodi appeared to reach for his weapon and needed to be subdued.[11] Hamoodi was beaten by four soldiers from the 2/20th Field Artillery Battalion on the head and body.[12] West then fired his pistol near Hamoodi's head,[11] after which Hamoodi provided West with names and information, which Hamoodi later described as "meaningless information induced by fear and pain."[11] At least one of these suspects was arrested as a result, but no plans for attacks or weapons were found.[11] West said "At the time I had to base my decision on the intelligence I received. It's possible that I was wrong about Mr. Hamoodi."[11]

West was charged with violating articles 128 (assault) and 134 (general article) of the Uniform Code of Military Justice. During a hearing held as part of an Article 32 investigation in November 2003, West stated, "I know the method I used was not right, but I wanted to take care of my soldiers."[12] The charges were ultimately referred to an Article 15 proceeding rather than court-martial, at which West was fined $5,000.[11] Lieutenant Colonel West accepted the judgment and retired with full benefits in the summer of 2004. Asked if he would act differently under similar circumstances again, West testified, "If it's about the lives of my soldiers at stake, I'd go through hell with a gasoline can."[12] At his hearing, West pointed out that there were no further ambushes against American forces in Taji until he was relieved of his leadership post on October 4.[13]After West's retirement he received more than 2,000 letters and e-mails offering him moral support.[11] A letter supporting West was signed by 95 members of Congress and sent to the Secretary of the Army.[11] Moreover, conservative David Horowitz's online publication FrontPage Magazine, named West its 2003 Man of the Year, for "valuing his own troops' lives over the mental well being and self-esteem of an Iraqi terrorist."[6

Tired of the evil uniformed Liberal Trash bad mouthing Col.Allen West.So lets get it out in
the open,Any one who has served would appreciate
the importance of Interrogation,enhanced or just
any method to extract intel,that could save our
troops from death.In Combat conditions,the world
is devoid of a lot of restraints,main purpose is
staying alive,having your buddies backs,food,and
sleep.Discharging a 1911 next to a suspected and
connected Islamic Terrorist,under these type of
conditions,beats the sh8t out of cranking some
volts and setting his genitals on fire!! Lets
be real people,what kind of a CO,Would he have
been to neglect this issue and risk his troops
getting killed maime?? I trust even the liberals\
will accept the reasons behind the incident.he
should never have been charged with anything,and
bear in mind seeing his troops,maimed killed etc
does not put him in the most compassionate frame
of mind,Just to remind you all,War is Hell!!!

(See main purpose should read killing the enemy)
some how it vanished from post??

wikipedia.com

“Hillary, thirty years of lying”

Since: Nov 08

Paris

#197 Oct 3, 2012
Razors Edge wrote:
Military Awards
West's awards and decorations include the Bronze Star; Meritorious Service Medal (two Oak Leaf Clusters); Army Commendation Medal (three Oak Leaf Clusters, one Valor Device); Army Achievement Medal (one Oak Leaf Cluster); Valorous Unit Award; Air Assault Badge; and the Master Parachutist Badge.[3]
[edit] Iraq interrogation incident
While serving in Taji, Iraq, West received information from an intelligence specialist about a reported plot to ambush him and his men.[11] The alleged plot reportedly involved Yahya Jhodri Hamoodi, a civilian Iraqi police officer.[11] West, who was not responsible for conducting interrogations in Iraq and had never conducted nor witnessed one, had his men detain Hamoodi.[11] In the process of detaining Mr. Hamoodi, soldiers testified that Hamoodi appeared to reach for his weapon and needed to be subdued.[11] Hamoodi was beaten by four soldiers from the 2/20th Field Artillery Battalion on the head and body.[12] West then fired his pistol near Hamoodi's head,[11] after which Hamoodi provided West with names and information, which Hamoodi later described as "meaningless information induced by fear and pain."[11] At least one of these suspects was arrested as a result, but no plans for attacks or weapons were found.[11] West said "At the time I had to base my decision on the intelligence I received. It's possible that I was wrong about Mr. Hamoodi."[11]
West was charged with violating articles 128 (assault) and 134 (general article) of the Uniform Code of Military Justice. During a hearing held as part of an Article 32 investigation in November 2003, West stated, "I know the method I used was not right, but I wanted to take care of my soldiers."[12] The charges were ultimately referred to an Article 15 proceeding rather than court-martial, at which West was fined $5,000.[11] Lieutenant Colonel West accepted the judgment and retired with full benefits in the summer of 2004. Asked if he would act differently under similar circumstances again, West testified, "If it's about the lives of my soldiers at stake, I'd go through hell with a gasoline can."[12] At his hearing, West pointed out that there were no further ambushes against American forces in Taji until he was relieved of his leadership post on October 4.[13]After West's retirement he received more than 2,000 letters and e-mails offering him moral support.[11] A letter supporting West was signed by 95 members of Congress and sent to the Secretary of the Army.[11] Moreover, conservative David Horowitz's online publication FrontPage Magazine, named West its 2003 Man of the Year, for "valuing his own troops' lives over the mental well being and self-esteem of an Iraqi terrorist."[6
Tired of the evil uniformed Liberal Trash bad mouthing Col.Allen West.So lets get it out in
the open,Any one who has served would appreciate
the importance of Interrogation,enhanced or just
any method to extract intel,that could save our
troops from death.In Combat conditions,the world
is devoid of a lot of restraints,main purpose is
staying alive,having your buddies backs,food,and
sleep.Discharging a 1911 next to a suspected and
connected Islamic Terrorist,under these type of
conditions,beats the sh8t out of cranking some
volts and setting his genitals on fire!! Lets
be real people,what kind of a CO,Would he have
been to neglect this issue and risk his troops
getting killed maime?? I trust even the liberals\
will accept the reasons behind the incident.he
should never have been charged with anything,and
bear in mind seeing his troops,maimed killed etc
does not put him in the most compassionate frame
of mind,Just to remind you all,War is Hell!!!
(See main purpose should read killing the enemy)
some how it vanished from post??
wikipedia.com
Patton said it best: We're not here to die for our country, we'er here to make the other dumb bastard die for his country. It worked until liberal congressmen got involved with Jane Fonda.
Razors Edge

Palos Hills, IL

#198 Oct 3, 2012
Le Jimbo wrote:
<quoted text>Patton said it best: We're not here to die for our country, we'er here to make the other dumb bastard die for his country. It worked until liberal congressmen got involved with Jane Fonda.
thats when all that bull sh*t started is right...fkg hollywood \
sissies!!
Mothra

Phoenix, AZ

#199 Oct 3, 2012
Responsibility wrote:
<quoted text>
Further to the etch-a-sketch analogy, a pundit described ROmney as jello.
He should be fine in the debate because hasn't he been tewwtored, trained, edewwwcated, etc. since June?
<sigh>

More of the same:

1. Sanctimonious bullshyt
2. Elitist bullshyt
3. Racist bullshyt
4. Hatin' Palin bullshyt
5. Sound bite bullshyt

Dear, you're predictable, and pathetic.

“or Fox News”

Since: Jan 08

Vicksburg, MI

#200 Oct 3, 2012
Le Jimbo wrote:
<quoted text>Patton said it best: We're not here to die for our country, we'er here to make the other dumb bastard die for his country. It worked until liberal congressmen got involved with Jane Fonda.
And Romney hauled ass to France on a "missionary calling"
Responsibility

Redwood City, CA

#203 Oct 3, 2012
Le Jimbo wrote:
<quoted text>Patton said it best: We're not here to die for our country, we'er here to make the other dumb bastard die for his country.
Are you talking about ROmney tootling off to France to spew his religion to those poor french folks? LOLL

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