Russia: no need for further Ukraine incursion

Mar 29, 2014 Full story: The Age 69

Russia's Grand Mufti Ravil Gainutdin greets a delegate as they attend the Kurultai, the assembly of Crimea Tatars, in Bakhchisaray.

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“Slovak,Ukrainian &Polish power ”

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#2 Mar 29, 2014
Basically the only "friends" Russia has today in the world are the Hell's Angels of nations.

Since: Nov 09

Podolsk, Russia

#3 Mar 29, 2014
superdelegate wrote:
Russia can't afford further Ukraine incursion. Few days ago at UN Russians found out they have few friends left these days. Friends they have left are worthless.
Douchebag club with Russia on top: Armenia, Belarus, Bolivia, Cuba, North Korea, Nicaragua, Sudan, Syria, Venezuela and Zimbabwe.
The countries has been intimidated by USA. There are lots of nations which support Russia, however, they are afraid of opposing to the Yanks.

“Slovak,Ukrainian &Polish power ”

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#4 Mar 29, 2014
BS

Most nations feel sympathy for Ukraine over Russia since they see Ukraine as being unfairly attacked by Russia but are AFRAID of telling this directly to Russia. Most nations think Russia is TOO BIG as it is and never deserved to have NINE TIME ZONES of territory. They think a nation like Russia with NINE TIME ZONES...is a GREEDY PIG for wanting MORE AND MORE AND MORE AND MORE AND MORE AND MORE territory.

Most nations think.....if Russia cares so much about a people's right of self-determination.......WHY didn't Russia let the Chechens on Russian land break away from Russia? Instead of Russia letting Chechens have the choice of voting to separate from Russia.......Russia just bombed and killed 1/4 million of Chechens. What a hypocritical nation RuSSia is.
ove neess

Aarhus, Denmark

#5 Mar 30, 2014
Fjern denne total uduelige præsident Putin,han har ingen viden om økonomi og krig,han har stjålet over 100 milliarder dollars,send ham til hviderusland og bliv spion,men tag hans penge fra ham.Ingen har glæde af ham og da slet ikke Ukraine
Cordwainer Trout

Elizabethtown, KY

#6 Mar 30, 2014
More yellow journalism and stupid posters.

Russia never invaded Ukraine. They didn't even increase their allowed allotment of troops in Crimea to the maximum agreed in 1997. The headline here is stupid. There can't be "further" incursion, when there was no incursion in the first place.

The violence and murder instigated by the US/EU/Soros meddling in Ukraine affairs throughout 2013 is the real problem. They ended up totally embarrassed, when it became clear for all the world to see, that US money had gone to funding and arming neo-Nazi troublemakers in Kiev and those troublemakers called for terrorist Chechen nutters to attack Russia. But, that's not so strange, when one considers Obama has been funding terrorists in Syria, who actually eat human body parts and play football with people's heads.

Since: Nov 09

Podolsk, Russia

#7 Mar 30, 2014
Cordwainer Trout wrote:
More yellow journalism and stupid posters.
Russia never invaded Ukraine. They didn't even increase their allowed allotment of troops in Crimea to the maximum agreed in 1997. The headline here is stupid. There can't be "further" incursion, when there was no incursion in the first place.
The violence and murder instigated by the US/EU/Soros meddling in Ukraine affairs throughout 2013 is the real problem. They ended up totally embarrassed, when it became clear for all the world to see, that US money had gone to funding and arming neo-Nazi troublemakers in Kiev and those troublemakers called for terrorist Chechen nutters to attack Russia. But, that's not so strange, when one considers Obama has been funding terrorists in Syria, who actually eat human body parts and play football with people's heads.
Yes, indeed, that comment says it all.
Unfortunately the most of western people are too brainwashed by western nazi media to see the truth, if they care about the truth at all.
Observer

Calgary, Canada

#8 Mar 30, 2014
70 % of Russians are brainwashed by media propoganda, so they cannot think at a critical or intellectual level. The mass of russians follow slogans and labels prepared for the unwashed simple russian peasants, by the state. There is however also another Russia. 30% in Russia are intellectual thinkers and critical thinkers and are intelelctually highly developed and they deplore what Putin is doing to Russia. Ukrainians are generally more intellectual than the average Russian , as their system is more western laissez faire and more logically and morally based than Russia's Gulag style policies. Russia runs on stereotypes, violence and disrespect for the natural law,of freedom loving peoples. Ukraine has simply developed more intellectually and ethically and morally than the Russian Dictatorship.

Since: Nov 09

Podolsk, Russia

#9 Mar 30, 2014
Observer wrote:
70 % of Russians are brainwashed by media propoganda, so they cannot think at a critical or intellectual level. The mass of russians follow slogans and labels prepared for the unwashed simple russian peasants, by the state. There is however also another Russia. 30% in Russia are intellectual thinkers and critical thinkers and are intelelctually highly developed and they deplore what Putin is doing to Russia. Ukrainians are generally more intellectual than the average Russian , as their system is more western laissez faire and more logically and morally based than Russia's Gulag style policies. Russia runs on stereotypes, violence and disrespect for the natural law,of freedom loving peoples. Ukraine has simply developed more intellectually and ethically and morally than the Russian Dictatorship.
Ukraine has simply developed more intellectually and ethically and morally than the Russian Dictatorship. Yea, this is why Ukranians have the ruined capital and economical crisis and Russians have Sochie olimpics. That says it all about your intellectual abilities. lol.
Observer

Calgary, Canada

#10 Mar 30, 2014
The above Alexey 25 displays a the typical lack of critical thinking skills which is the problem of 70% of brainwashed by propoganda russians. Alexey totally misses the main issue. According to a recent Razumkov poll taken in March,2014 30% of russians in Russia are intelligent and thinking russians and they support Ukraine and condemn Putin's dictator methods of conquest from the last century. So about about 45 Million thinking Russians in Russia today are thinking intelligent modern russians that condemn Russia's robbery of Crimea. and are supportive of Ukraine and want to part of the free world.
Eduardo

Torreón, Mexico

#11 Mar 30, 2014
Mr Slovak wrote:
BS
Most nations feel sympathy for Ukraine over Russia since they see Ukraine as being unfairly attacked by Russia but are AFRAID of telling this directly to Russia. Most nations think Russia is TOO BIG as it is and never deserved to have NINE TIME ZONES of territory. They think a nation like Russia with NINE TIME ZONES...is a GREEDY PIG for wanting MORE AND MORE AND MORE AND MORE AND MORE AND MORE territory.
Most nations think.....if Russia cares so much about a people's right of self-determination.......WHY didn't Russia let the Chechens on Russian land break away from Russia? Instead of Russia letting Chechens have the choice of voting to separate from Russia.......Russia just bombed and killed 1/4 millilon of Chechens. What a hypocritical nation RuSSia is.
Most countries do care more about international law over self-determination because they understand that it can happen to them or because it has happened to them but they won't say " why Russia won't let the Chechens secede?" Because they won't know what is a Chechen and if you explain it to them they'll think you are kidding, "didn't the West kept babbling that the muslims were a threat to everyone?" Why are they suddenly so concern about them ? "Is it because they are hostile to Russia?"
Clear Dharma

Aberdeen, UK

#12 Mar 30, 2014
Observer wrote:
The above Alexey 25 displays a the typical lack of critical thinking skills which is the problem of 70% of brainwashed by propoganda russians. Alexey totally misses the main issue. According to a recent Razumkov poll taken in March,2014 30% of russians in Russia are intelligent and thinking russians and they support Ukraine and condemn Putin's dictator methods of conquest from the last century. So about about 45 Million thinking Russians in Russia today are thinking intelligent modern russians that condemn Russia's robbery of Crimea. and are supportive of Ukraine and want to part of the free world.
I'm afraid generations of brainwashing at school and in the media does not provide a country with a discriminating population.

Eating, sleeping and shitting is about as sophisticated as it gets. It's a good job the Putin Elites have foreign companies to pump their oil and provide for the trillions in private accounts.
Eduardo

Torreón, Mexico

#13 Mar 30, 2014
is also true that countries opposing Crimea's secession aren't a single homogenous group, there is USA and it's allies which will support whatever country they want to support regardless of whether they have the international law on their side or not. Then there are emerging nations which see international law as their protection against major powers and which have been making awkward statements like how falklands is to Argentina what Crimea is to Ukraine and how Tibet or even Taiwan could be to China what Crimea is to Ukraine. Is obvious that there aren't two sides but three. And the third one might not recognize Crimea as part of Russia but the won't be taking part on any efforts to isolate Russia either.

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#14 Mar 30, 2014
Eduardo wrote:
is also true that countries opposing Crimea's secession aren't a single homogenous group, there is USA and it's allies which will support whatever country they want to support regardless of whether they have the international law on their side or not. Then there are emerging nations which see international law as their protection against major powers and which have been making awkward statements like how falklands is to Argentina what Crimea is to Ukraine and how Tibet or even Taiwan could be to China what Crimea is to Ukraine. Is obvious that there aren't two sides but three. And the third one might not recognize Crimea as part of Russia but the won't be taking part on any efforts to isolate Russia either.
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Ukraine should think itself lucky that, Russia agreed to pay rent for Crimea twenty years ago, instead of insisting Crimea went back to Russian Federation.

After all, Crimea was Soviet territory for hundreds of years and added as an appendage to Ukraine for convenience in the 1950s, because at the time, Ukraine was also Russian territory.

These are Historical facts, anyone who disagrees is either a filthy Nazi, a dumbass, or both.

Good evening.
George

Red Deer, Canada

#15 Mar 30, 2014
Mr Slovak wrote:
BS
Most nations feel sympathy for Ukraine over Russia since they see Ukraine as being unfairly attacked by Russia but are AFRAID of telling this directly to Russia. Most nations think Russia is TOO BIG as it is and never deserved to have NINE TIME ZONES of territory. They think a nation like Russia with NINE TIME ZONES...is a GREEDY PIG for wanting MORE AND MORE AND MORE AND MORE AND MORE AND MORE territory.
Most nations think.....if Russia cares so much about a people's right of self-determination.......WHY didn't Russia let the Chechens on Russian land break away from Russia? Instead of Russia letting Chechens have the choice of voting to separate from Russia.......Russia just bombed and killed 1/4 million of Chechens. What a hypocritical nation RuSSia is.
Exactly. Even today Lavrov is meeting with Kerry in Paris to come to a diplomatic solution to the Ukraine ordeal but in the same breath is saying that Ukraine should merge with Russia and be given rights to self government bla bla bla . Putin, instead of keeping his mouth shut is sending propaganda into East Ukraine to get them upset and nervous, but from last interviews they have calmed themselves and want to be Ukranians that speak Russian.
George

Red Deer, Canada

#16 Mar 30, 2014
Cordwainer Trout wrote:
More yellow journalism and stupid posters.
Russia never invaded Ukraine. They didn't even increase their allowed allotment of troops in Crimea to the maximum agreed in 1997. The headline here is stupid. There can't be "further" incursion, when there was no incursion in the first place.
The violence and murder instigated by the US/EU/Soros meddling in Ukraine affairs throughout 2013 is the real problem. They ended up totally embarrassed, when it became clear for all the world to see, that US money had gone to funding and arming neo-Nazi troublemakers in Kiev and those troublemakers called for terrorist Chechen nutters to attack Russia. But, that's not so strange, when one considers Obama has been funding terrorists in Syria, who actually eat human body parts and play football with people's heads.
You and Alexy both go stand in the corner, you are both idiots that have no clue what happened in Crimea or what the agreement was all about, go do some homework, or go clean out the horse barns.
George

Red Deer, Canada

#17 Mar 30, 2014
Observer wrote:
The above Alexey 25 displays a the typical lack of critical thinking skills which is the problem of 70% of brainwashed by propoganda russians. Alexey totally misses the main issue. According to a recent Razumkov poll taken in March,2014 30% of russians in Russia are intelligent and thinking russians and they support Ukraine and condemn Putin's dictator methods of conquest from the last century. So about about 45 Million thinking Russians in Russia today are thinking intelligent modern russians that condemn Russia's robbery of Crimea. and are supportive of Ukraine and want to part of the free world.
There have been intellects in Russia that have spoken up and found themselves arrested for trumped up charges like instigating a riot etc. One was a university professor and others were with the Russian Media RT, the university professor is unable to be found. That is what Putin calls freedom.
George

Red Deer, Canada

#18 Mar 30, 2014
Dimitri100 wrote:
<quoted text>.
Ukraine should think itself lucky that, Russia agreed to pay rent for Crimea twenty years ago, instead of insisting Crimea went back to Russian Federation.
After all, Crimea was Soviet territory for hundreds of years and added as an appendage to Ukraine for convenience in the 1950s, because at the time, Ukraine was also Russian territory.
These are Historical facts, anyone who disagrees is either a filthy Nazi, a dumbass, or both.
Good evening.
So if Mongolia wants the Russian territory back they just need to ask for it because that is how Russia thinks?
Observer

United States

#19 Mar 30, 2014
George from La La Land wrote:
<quoted text>
Exactly. Even today Lavrov is meeting with Kerry in Paris to come to a diplomatic solution to the Ukraine ordeal but in the same breath is saying that Ukraine should merge with Russia and be given rights to self government bla bla bla .
Please explain how 'merging with Russia' and 'autonomy within Ukraine as a federation', find their way as analogies in your post, let alone your head?

Putin never said the former. I defy you to post a link to the contrary.

You're quite the amateur propagandist, aren't you?
Observer

United States

#20 Mar 30, 2014
George wrote:
<quoted text>
You and Alexy both go stand in the corner, you are both idiots that have no clue what happened in Crimea
And you KNOW what happened in Crimea? LMAO

Let me guess: "The Russians invaded and held everyone at gunpoint to vote 'Russia' in a referendum."

LOL
George

Red Deer, Canada

#21 Mar 30, 2014
Observer wrote:
<quoted text>
And you KNOW what happened in Crimea? LMAO
Let me guess: "The Russians invaded and held everyone at gunpoint to vote 'Russia' in a referendum."
LOL
And once again the IQ of 88 surfaces

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