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2008 Presidential Election

Iraq's Maliki Supports Obama Plan For Withdrawal

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#104
Jul 20, 2008
 
JohnInLa wrote:
<quoted text>Since you love Skidmark's posts I have a pasture full of cow manure I'll sell you at fair market value...nitwit.
NOBODY'S buying ANYTHING you're selling pal.
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Jul 20, 2008
 
Summer Rain wrote:
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Your lame little lies are laughed at by the 85% of the population who can walk and chew gum at the same time.
Smearing Obama
"He's a Muslim. He was sworn into office on the Koran. He doesn't say the Pledge of Allegiance. His pastor is an anti-Semite. He's a tool of Louis Farrakhan. He's anti-Israel. His advisers are anti-Israel. He's friends with terrorists. The terrorists want him to win. He's the Antichrist.
By now you've probably seen at least some of these e-mails and articles about Barack Obama bouncing around the Internet. They distort Obama's religious faith, question his support for Israel, warp the identity and positions of his campaign advisers and defame his friends and allies from Chicago. The purpose of the smear is to paint him as an Arab-loving, Israel-hating, terrorist-coddling, radical black nationalist. That picture couldn't be further from the truth...Among conservatives, Fox News has endlessly amplified such rumors. Karl Rove, a new hire by the network, recently speculated that Obama would withdraw funding for Israel. Sean Hannity has asked if Obama has a "race problem." Fox News radio host Tom Sullivan compared Obama to Hitler. "Fox News are on to him and all the arguments our 'smear' camping [sic] is making and for the most part it is running with them," right-wing blogger Ted Belman, of Israpundit, wrote in a recent e-mail.
The attacks on Obama reek of racism and Islamophobia but, as John Kerry learned in 2004, any Democrat should expect such treatment. "If Moses was the Democratic nominee, he'd still be the victim of this hate mail," says Doug Bloomfield, a former legislative director for AIPAC. The right-wing smear machine grinds on..."
http://www.thenation.com/doc/20080331/berman
Obama As A Muslim Extremist - CNN Counters FOX Lies
http://www.youtube.com/watch...
Other sources refute the Muslim claim:
http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/muslim.a...
http://isbarackobamamuslim.com/
Obama responding to dirty tricks
http://www.youtube.com/watch...
Obama's father was an atheist.
The not-so-simple story of Barack Obama's youth
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/politics/c...
You are exactly right. Scott McCullen wrote in his book "WHAT HAPPEN" the the Bush Administration operates in Propaganda and that is just what the comments are adding up to. Lies and Distortion of the Truth. Vincent Buloisi, in his Book 'THE PROSECUTION OF GEORGE BUSH FOR MURDER' describes the republican party traits as deceptive and corrupt presentations to ruin anyone ones reputation that they feel threatened by. An example of this is Val Plane, how about what they did to Mc Cain in 2000, saying his wife was an addict and Mc Cain father a black child. It is all Campaign Propaganda. I have read that the Iraqi Newspaper had Maliki statement written as stated. I believe the Iraqi Newspaper, not Cent. Com where this back down statment is coming from.
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Jul 20, 2008
 
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So the GOP thugs threatened to kneecap the man and he had to back off a little bit. The UN mandate will still expire in December. The GOP will be out of power in January. And then the Democrats can start an intelligent foreign policy.
Bush has still been forced out of his hole. The GOP has agreed to a withdrawal.
The BEST.... Bush has been forced out of his Hole.
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Jul 20, 2008
 
Shannon wrote:
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That's what they say, but nobody has actually seen him. He's a brat, kinda like you. Attacks are way down since he fled...or went to hide out in Iran.
Sadar is not missing at all. His self proclaimed Cease Fire was what diminished the death toll. Recently he has rejoined the Governement. His Party want US out of Irac.
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Jul 20, 2008
 
David wrote:
On a campaign conference call with Florida reporters, McCain surrogate, and fellow prisoner of war, Bud Day, seems to have cast McCain's foreign policy in stark, religious terms:
The Muslims have said either we kneel or they're going to kill us.... I don't intend to kneel and I don't advocate to anybody that we kneel, and John doesn't advocate to anybody that we kneel.
David This bowing thing has to to with how POWs where treated in Nam The U.S. Veterans Dispatch http://www.usvettdsp.com/deco7/mccain-suicide... . When Mc Cain was a POW one of his guards every morning would force him to bow., and knock him down. So I think it is part of his PTSD and refers to Nam and not Muslim, but the anger from PTSD get in the way. This is an interesting site. A lot of reference positive and negative to McCain . You will find it interesting
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Jul 20, 2008
 
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<quoted text> And we won't kneel, the sooner we contain muslims the better, inclusive of their biggest advocate - little muslim at at large: barry hussein obama. Obama's Kenyan birth father was muslim, in Islam, religion passes from the father to the child. Barack Hussein Obama, Sr.(1936–1982) was a Muslim who named his boy Barack Hussein Obama, Jr. Only Muslim children are named "Hussein". Get out the vote or get out your prayer rugs...
Every thing you wrote is a LIE. Obamas Dad was an atheist. Religion does not pass from Father to son. So what in the world is wrong with Muslin children.? You have some pretty serious issues with race and religion. You need evalution and help.
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Jul 20, 2008
 
rule of law wrote:
<quoted text>David This bowing thing has to to with how POWs where treated in Nam The U.S. Veterans Dispatch http://www.usvettdsp.com/deco7/mccain-suicide... . When Mc Cain was a POW one of his guards every morning would force him to bow., and knock him down. So I think it is part of his PTSD and refers to Nam and not Muslim, but the anger from PTSD get in the way. This is an interesting site. A lot of reference positive and negative to McCain . You will find it interesting
Nothing changes with the looney lefty mil. hating sheeple. If they cannot get a Viet Nam Vet one way they do it another. No more " Baby Killers " now it's " Does he have PTSD ?"

Same ole shyte just in a new wrapper.
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#111
Jul 20, 2008
 

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To be a fly on the wall in the White House.

"Gettin' with the Obama Plan"

1. NEGOTIATE with North Korea

2. MISSILE strike Pakistan

3. NEGOTIATE with Iran

4. NEGOTIATE exit timetable from Iraq

5. Make Afghanistan THE military priority

Amazing what the sound of FOOTSTEPS can do.
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Jul 20, 2008
 
Truth Defined wrote:
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He's running for President of the United States. Everything that both candidates do is a "photo op." McCain is proof of that with his so-called "town hall meetings." And why does this have to be about race AT ALL? Maybe the "white" troops didn't want to play. That actually is a possibility.
Anyway, what I'm asking you to tell me is how does Maliki's comments support the Republican stance? They have vowed to stay the course. Obama has vowed troop removal in 16 months. Maliki agreed with Obama.
It's possible that Obama is more in tune with what America wants AND the world abroad. Help me see how McCain's candidacy is helped by this.
It helps McCain because his position will be the "surge" worked, while Obama has been modifying his position on removing troops in 16 months
If you think that Maliki agreeing with Obama is a plus for Obama, you have a higher opinion of Maliki than everyone else.
Maliki using left over equipment and trained troops will run roughshod over all opposition and will become another Hussein, but this time with a religious agenda and a religious ally in Iran. This makes for greater problems than we had with Hussein.
As far as Vietnam is concerned, the war resumed a year or so after we left, mostly because of South Vietnam.

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#114
Jul 20, 2008
 
bush promised to get out when they wanted us out.. will he keep THIS promise? Or will cheney not give him permission to get out?

Cheney has live kitties for bed time snack.
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Jul 20, 2008
 
rule of law wrote:
<quoted text>You are exactly right. Scott McCullen wrote in his book "WHAT HAPPEN" the the Bush Administration operates in Propaganda and that is just what the comments are adding up to. Lies and Distortion of the Truth. Vincent Buloisi, in his Book 'THE PROSECUTION OF GEORGE BUSH FOR MURDER'
Don't those also come in a family pack double-roll quilted.

Liberals: subverting mankind's progress since day 1
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x-nutmegger wrote:
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Nothing changes with the looney lefty mil. hating sheeple. If they cannot get a Viet Nam Vet one way they do it another. No more " Baby Killers " now it's " Does he have PTSD ?"
Same ole shyte just in a new wrapper.
Hey nutmegger, I wasn't trying to get a vet, I was explaining why his POW Friend may have said what he did. And the Sentence about Mc Cain is true. Did you check out the site?
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#117
Jul 20, 2008
 
Iraq is a Soverign Nation now and they have the right to ask us to leave anytime they like after the UN mandate is complete in December of this year.
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Jul 20, 2008
 
sfiscrap wrote:
<quoted text> Don't those also come in a family pack double-roll quilted.
Liberals: subverting mankind's progress since day 1
No My Friend these are what learned people call books. If you go to you Republican advisor he will explain.
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Jul 20, 2008
 
rule of law wrote:
<quoted text> Every thing you wrote is a LIE. Obamas Dad was an atheist. Religion does not pass from Father to son. So what in the world is wrong with Muslin children.? You have some pretty serious issues with race and religion. You need evalution and help.
little barry is a muslim, elect him and trade in your persian for a prayer rug.

In Islam, religion passes from the father to the child. Barack Hussein Obama, Sr.(1936-1982) was a Muslim who named his boy Barack Hussein Obama, Jr. Only Muslim children are named "Hussein".

Obama's Indonesian family: His stepfather, Lolo Soetoro, was also a Muslim. In fact, as Obama's half-sister, Maya Soetoro-Ng explained to Jodi Kantor of the New York Times: "My whole family was Muslim, and most of the people I knew were Muslim." An Indonesian publication, the Banjarmasin Post reports a former classmate, Rony Amir, recalling that "All the relatives of Barry's father were very devout Muslims."

and let's not forget his own admission about his studies of the koran- In his autobiography, Dreams of My Father, Obama relates how he got into trouble for making faces during Koranic studies, thereby revealing he was a Muslim, for Indonesian students in his day attended religious classes according to their faith. Indeed, Obama still retains knowledge from that class: Nicholas D. Kristof of the New York Times, reports that Obama "recalled the opening lines of the Arabic call to prayer, reciting them to Kristof with a first-rate accent."
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It helps McCain because his position will be the "surge" worked, while Obama has been modifying his position on removing troops in 16 months
If you think that Maliki agreeing with Obama is a plus for Obama, you have a higher opinion of Maliki than everyone else.
Maliki using left over equipment and trained troops will run roughshod over all opposition and will become another Hussein, but this time with a religious agenda and a religious ally in Iran. This makes for greater problems than we had with Hussein.
As far as Vietnam is concerned, the war resumed a year or so after we left, mostly because of South Vietnam.
Maliki's no Hussein.
He'll be out shortly after we are.
And the new Hussein,(probably Sadr)will step-up then.
It's likely this will happen WHENEVER it is that we actually leave.
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little barry is a muslim, elect him and trade in your persian for a prayer rug.
In Islam, religion passes from the father to the child. Barack Hussein Obama, Sr.(1936-1982) was a Muslim who named his boy Barack Hussein Obama, Jr. Only Muslim children are named "Hussein".
Obama's Indonesian family: His stepfather, Lolo Soetoro, was also a Muslim. In fact, as Obama's half-sister, Maya Soetoro-Ng explained to Jodi Kantor of the New York Times: "My whole family was Muslim, and most of the people I knew were Muslim." An Indonesian publication, the Banjarmasin Post reports a former classmate, Rony Amir, recalling that "All the relatives of Barry's father were very devout Muslims."
and let's not forget his own admission about his studies of the koran- In his autobiography, Dreams of My Father, Obama relates how he got into trouble for making faces during Koranic studies, thereby revealing he was a Muslim, for Indonesian students in his day attended religious classes according to their faith. Indeed, Obama still retains knowledge from that class: Nicholas D. Kristof of the New York Times, reports that Obama "recalled the opening lines of the Arabic call to prayer, reciting them to Kristof with a first-rate accent."
Is this an example of how the Germans treated the Jews?? Obama is an American, born in Kansas. He has Muslim in his blood, his Father was a muslin. If I where a muslim would you hate me too. If I where a Jew and you where a German would you gas me? What difference does it make if some has muslin blood? Say you started to hemorrhage and they took you to the hospital and gave you blood to save your life. It turned that blood was Muslim, would you then hate yourself? See I don't get this hate think that goes on.
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#122
Jul 20, 2008
 
The Koran is just as Honorable a Religion as , Catholicism, Judaism, Baptist, Evangelical, Mormons is a stretch, but they believe in something. Any mans belief system is their right.What if someone told you that your religion was not acceptable. How would you feel?. What would you do.? Being logically reasonable to allow people to be who they are, and allow them to believe what they believe seems fair to me. I do not believe in the Koran, but that does not make it Bad. It is just another Religion.
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Jul 20, 2008
 
rule of law wrote:
<quoted text>No My Friend these are what learned people call books. If you go to you Republican advisor he will explain.
No Plato's "the republic" is a book; these are merely bound paper with mindless shit on them aka lunatic crap, much like barry obama herself -Hence the toilet tissue reference. I'd suggest you read the book Plato would have stratified democrats and liberals somewhere between cattle and prostitutes...
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Give me a Break wrote:
<quoted text>Is this an example of how the Germans treated the Jews?? Obama is an American, born in Kansas. He has Muslim in his blood, his Father was a muslin. If I where a muslim would you hate me too. If I where a Jew and you where a German would you gas me? What difference does it make if some has muslin blood? Say you started to hemorrhage and they took you to the hospital and gave you blood to save your life. It turned that blood was Muslim, would you then hate yourself? See I don't get this hate think that goes on.
He was born in Hawaii ,His mom is from kansas and His dad is from Kenya, He has no slave blood and no slave ancestory at least in America.

His mom was 18 when she gave birth to him , and Hawaii had only been a state for a year or so when He was born .

You now have all the information you need to research the laws in 1960 to find out if He would be considered a natural born citizen or a natualized citizen at the time of His birth .

by doing your own study of the laws you will not have to take anyones word for anything , you can reach your own conclusions .

Good luck with the research .
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