Obama says public tired of hearing about his former pastor

[Dakota]

Stuck in Marion County wrote:

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I am not an Obama supporter - his real policies are strong reason to vote against him.
there have been several news reports that indicate he is popular in Kenya and that he has visited there - I still haven't seen one that indicates that Odinga is his cousin or that Obama supports him. I have seen lots of spam telling me how he has pledge to save Kenya yada yada yada - all of which has been debunked by Snopes and truthorfiction.
If Obama wins the election I am convinced it will be because the average American will become so sick of the blatant lies and relentless attacks and will vote for him just to spite the spammers.(the flood of these tales is bad now - you'd better hope your Norton subscription is current come October)

So, Obama speaking at Odinga's campaign rally, Odinga's statement they are cousins(on video) the backlash by the Gov of Kenya over Obama's interference, proves nothing.....intersting. I guess it is interesting logic, then maybe all the people that show up for Obama rallies, really are not supporters....

If none of the information you were provided proves anything, it makes one wonder what would, maybe it is sufficient for you that Obama said it wasn't true...afterall, he hasn't lied about his other affiliations, has he.

When you refer to blatant lies, you have yet you provide any proof none of this information is true...show me where Obama, directly, has denied his relationship to Odinga.....pictures,videos are not lies...ever hear the expression a picture is worth a thousand words?

It is obvious, questioning Obama is off limits for if you do, you are considered a racist bigot, not an American that takes their obligation to vote for the President seriously.

[River Veteran]

Stuck in Marion County wrote:

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This bozo claims Obama is his cousin but there is no evidence. Obama's uncle has openly disputed the claim.
Obama has never supported him. he has spoken to him once on the phone for about 5 minutes.
www.snopes.com
Don't cast your vote out of fear and ignorance. Obama's true possitions on issues are available on his website - and are reason enough not to vote for him.

LMAO..........WRONG AGAIN.

Spoke to him "once on the phone for about 5 minutes".

This picture was taken in 2006 when Obama went to Kenya.

http://iperceive.net/barack-obama-kenyan-jiha...

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm Is that Obama campaigning at a ralley for Odinga.....Oh my gosh...It IS OBAMA....that's actually Odinga sitting next to him.

LMAO..........Don't you hate being WRONG ALL THE FU(KING TIME?

[River Veteran]

Jim wrote:

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Oh please, send in this outstanding post to the Obama website for all to see how you and the Obamanites embrace your democrat base! Politically, the only difference between Clinton and Obama is that Obama is even further to the left of Clinton, and more disposed to treat people more like cattle to be managed and placated. We would soon be wearing our little uniforms calling each other comrade under Obama, the part you are missing is that under his regime you and those toothless masses you so embrace will all be equal in your misery.
The fact that you are trying to lump me in on the left is comical. I am part of the great right wing conspiracy, running businesses, employing the masses, raking in more than my share of money and power. By the way, if you intend to portray yourself as this intellectually superior class, you might want to invest in spell check, otherwise you look kind of foolish.

Good Post!

[River Veteran]

Stuck in Marion County wrote:

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and since he didn't your point is?

Bwaaa ha ha ha your DumbAzz is going on and on "Blatting" like asheep on this thread, with your second-hand, spoon-fed, predigested "opinions", lacking any quality of critical analysis nor backed up with FACTS.

LMAO......Dude....you need to go back to MoveOn and DailyKos forums. You're getting your azz spanked here.

[Jim]

Stuck in Marion County wrote:

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Unfortunately the videos don't always appear in the same order. When I just went back to the site this was the "next video down"
http://www.youtube.com/watch...
Hardly credible (looks like it may have been produced by avg white guy)
Enlighten me (since I know you have a bit more concern for the truth than many here)- has someone actually established the lineage (or more importantly has Obama come out in support of Odingo?) I do not doubt that this is possible - just restate that I have never seen credible evidnce of it. Both Snopes and truthorfiction (which I find to be reliable - especially when they both agree) have stated there is no evidence to support the claims.

Well, that isn't the same video that I saw. I will try to go back and look, but don't know when I will have the time. It was a Reuters piece.

[fmfcorpsman]

Unless Democrats want to guarantee the next President of the United States is a Republican, you better read all of this. As the CNN News had repeated ignored what the DNCC, GOPC, Sen. Clinton, Sen. McCain & Sen. Obama know that the Senate Select Committee on Ethic received a legal brief in April 2008, where Sen. Obama has been charged with violation of the Senate’s Code of Ethics.

As it not a frivolous charge, the Senate Select Committee of Ethics is conduction their investigation. Because of red tape, and time, if the Democrats want the next President of the United States to be a Democrat, time must be given for their investigation to conclude. Which means those pledged delegate for Sen. Obama need to hear from those Democrats in their district, and States, otherwise what will happen will be Sen. Obama will be selected as the Democratic candidate, then as the evidence against Sen. Obama,(see below), is so overwhelming, there will be no choice, but for Senate to censure Sen. Obama for unmoral conduct for befriending a domestic terrorist. Hey you better read on, because as you read, you will see that while you may have already voted for Sen. Obama in your primary election, you may see that the only way the next President of the United States, will be a Democratic. Is if Sen. Clinton is given the time to fight on to the Democrat Convention. There is always the slim chance Sen. Obama will not be censored, but there no way to know, unless the Senate Select Committee of Ethic have the time to complete their investigation before the Democratic candidate is chossen. So call your pledge delegates and tell then that time is needed, that those delegates should announce that they will wait until the Democratic Convention to choose who they vote for. Time, is needed. Other wise you will guarantee a Republican as the next President of the United States. As do you really think a lot of those who previously voted for Sen. Obama, will vote for him in the General election when he has been censored for his friendship to a domestic terrorist?

The FBI classifies that the act of setting a bomb is a terrorist act. Do you know what both Lee Harvey Oswald and William Ayers have in common, both are domestic terrorist and neither was convicted of their crime. Oswald was killed after he assassinated JFK, and Ayers admitted that he got off on a technically, even though he set many bombs and should of set more bombs. As Oswald only committed one act of terrorism, and Ayers have committed more acts of terrorist, William Ayers is technically a worst domestic terrorist than Lee Harvey Oswald was.

There is a moral cause in the Senate Code of Ethics, that Sen. J. William Fulbright stated in the U.S. Senate in the early 1950s, that when a Senator’s gives the “implied behavior of The Moral Deterioration of American Democracy”, that that is a violate the Senate Code of Ethics.

And to think that Sen. Obama compared his friendship to William Ayers,(domestic terrorist), to his friendship with Sen. Coburn.(A highly respected Republic Senator).

To all Democrats, unless you call your delegates and tell them that time is needed, and let the Democratic Convention decide then who the Democratic Candidate is, you will be guarantee the next President of the United States to be a Republican.

[Stuipd Citizens]

fmfcorpsman wrote:

Unless Democrats want to guarantee the next President of the United States is a Republican, you better read all of this. As the CNN News had repeated ignored what the DNCC, GOPC, Sen. Clinton, Sen. McCain & Sen. Obama know that the Senate Select Committee on Ethic received a legal brief in April 2008, where Sen. Obama has been charged with violation of the Senate’s Code of Ethics.
As it not a frivolous charge, the Senate Select Committee of Ethics is conduction their investigation. Because of red tape, and time, if the Democrats want the next President of the United States to be a Democrat, time must be given for their investigation to conclude. Which means those pledged delegate for Sen. Obama need to hear from those Democrats in their district, and States, otherwise what will happen will be Sen. Obama will be selected as the Democratic candidate, then as the evidence against Sen. Obama,(see below), is so overwhelming, there will be no choice, but for Senate to censure Sen. Obama for unmoral conduct for befriending a domestic terrorist. Hey you better read on, because as you read, you will see that while you may have already voted for Sen. Obama in your primary election, you may see that the only way the next President of the United States, will be a Democratic. Is if Sen. Clinton is given the time to fight on to the Democrat Convention. There is always the slim chance Sen. Obama will not be censored, but there no way to know, unless the Senate Select Committee of Ethic have the time to complete their investigation before the Democratic candidate is chossen. So call your pledge delegates and tell then that time is needed, that those delegates should announce that they will wait until the Democratic Convention to choose who they vote for. Time, is needed. Other wise you will guarantee a Republican as the next President of the United States. As do you really think a lot of those who previously voted for Sen. Obama, will vote for him in the General election when he has been censored for his friendship to a domestic terrorist?
The FBI classifies that the act of setting a bomb is a terrorist act. Do you know what both Lee Harvey Oswald and William Ayers have in common, both are domestic terrorist and neither was convicted of their crime. Oswald was killed after he assassinated JFK, and Ayers admitted that he got off on a technically, even though he set many bombs and should of set more bombs. As Oswald only committed one act of terrorism, and Ayers have committed more acts of terrorist, William Ayers is technically a worst domestic terrorist than Lee Harvey Oswald was.
There is a moral cause in the Senate Code of Ethics, that Sen. J. William Fulbright stated in the U.S. Senate in the early 1950s, that when a Senator’s gives the “implied behavior of The Moral Deterioration of American Democracy”, that that is a violate the Senate Code of Ethics.
And to think that Sen. Obama compared his friendship to William Ayers,(domestic terrorist), to his friendship with Sen. Coburn.(A highly respected Republic Senator).
To all Democrats, unless you call your delegates and tell them that time is needed, and let the Democratic Convention decide then who the Democratic Candidate is, you will be guarantee the next President of the United States to be a Republican.

Look crazy a*zz McBush's mother is on the blog LOLOLOLOL whatever!

[Stuck in Marion County]

RiverRat - BBC stands for British Broadcasting Company - not Barack Website - and the BBC story specifically states that his dad was a goat herder.(which of course directly disproves the first lie in your chain email)

You on the other hand link to some yokle that has set up his on blog along with his wife?

As the Snopes link I also posted indicated - he spoke to Odingo once on the phone AND appeared with him once while in Kenya.(again - not proof that they are cousins or supporters just facts)

Odingo claims (when it is convenient for him) that he is Obama's cousin. Obama states that he has no idea whether this claim is true. Obama's Uncle (who still lives in Kenya) refutes the claim and you and Dakota are convinced that the only one telling the truth is the nut job Odingo?

Like I said - if Obama wins it will because of the backlash that spammers like you and Dakota generate. Please - for the sake of the country try telling people the truth about Obama's possitions instead of clouding the debate with this bs. His proposed tax changes alone should be enough to defeat him if anyone takes time to listen to them instead of more "he's a muslim sympasizer" crap.

[Stuck in Marion County]

River Veteran wrote:

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Bwaaa HAaaaaaa ha ha ha You link is to an OBAMA website..........LMAO. No BIAS THERE!

Direct quote from the BBC Article

"His father herded goats before winning a scholarship to study in the US and grew up in the rural village of Nyangoma Kogalo in Western Kenya, near the shores of Lake Victoria."

Now you can bray all you want - fact is you are clueless and a waste of space

[Joe from Indy]

We can't talk about his mother.

We can't talk about his father.

We can't talk about his grandmother unless he does, and brings her up as a "typical white person."

We can't talk about his wife,

can't talk about his preacher,

can't talk about his terrorist friends, c

an't talk about his voting record,

can't talk about his religion.

We can't talk about appeasement.

We can't talk about color; we can't talk about lack of color.

We can't talk about race.

We can't talk about bombers and mobsters who are his friends.

We can't talk about schooling.

We can't talk about his name, "Hussein."

We can't talk about his lack of experience.

Can't talk about his income.

Can't talk about his flag pin.

This started out we can't call him a liberal.

It started out we just couldn't talk about his ears.

Now we can't say anything about him.

[Humanist]

oriana wrote:

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neither do I

...and I will concede that you probably have more hair on your chest also.

[River Veteran]

Stuck in Marion County wrote:

RiverRat - BBC stands for British Broadcasting Company - not Barack Website - and the BBC story specifically states that his dad was a goat herder.(which of course directly disproves the first lie in your chain email)
You on the other hand link to some yokle that has set up his on blog along with his wife?
As the Snopes link I also posted indicated - he spoke to Odingo once on the phone AND appeared with him once while in Kenya.(again - not proof that they are cousins or supporters just facts)
Odingo claims (when it is convenient for him) that he is Obama's cousin. Obama states that he has no idea whether this claim is true. Obama's Uncle (who still lives in Kenya) refutes the claim and you and Dakota are convinced that the only one telling the truth is the nut job Odingo?
Like I said - if Obama wins it will because of the backlash that spammers like you and Dakota generate. Please - for the sake of the country try telling people the truth about Obama's possitions instead of clouding the debate with this bs. His proposed tax changes alone should be enough to defeat him if anyone takes time to listen to them instead of more "he's a muslim sympasizer" crap.

I ALWAYS TELL THE TRUTH....no twisting of the facts here like you try to do but miserably FAIL at....... I can take on ANY and ALL comers that want to challenge me on how much of a NEGATIVE IMPACT his promises/policies will be on the MIDDLE CLASS.

Hate to tell you but snopes is not the master of what is FACT or FICTION....just like Wikepedia is BS.

I don't have a horse in this race at the moment.

OBAMA is a LIAR and just like the rest in washington. Panders and plays both sides while lying through his teeth. His socialist economic agenda will DESTROY this country. There is NO way to pay for it.

Hell.....he just voted to give ILLEGALS Social Security benefits.....are you kidding me!!!! so did billary.

Clinton is a........well she pretty much takes the cake. Panders, lies, steals, kills (my opinion), etc........

McAmnesty.....He is the lesser of the 3 evils running in my opinion.

What I like about him:

WILL NOT RAISE TAXES.

A "FREEZE" on PORK / No more can be added to bills.

Will release the moratorium on oil and natural gas exploration (we aren't even allowed to LOOK for the resources....thank you Dems)

and

He is considering the "fair tax" (which I have read both books and think it's a GREAT idea)

He knows what has to be done in Iraq..... If he can show me that he is going to surround himself with people that can help turn the slowed (we are NOT in a recession)economy around.

Then I may vote for him.

He has to show me that he has done a complete 180 regarding immigration.

If not.....It's Nader or I'm staying home.

[Never a Democrat]

Drip Drop! Flip Flop! The Obama campaign and his words, just words, just speeches that reveal his inexperience, immaturity and hypocrisy are quite evident.

The Obama campaign is in the toilet!

Time to flush!

All sewage shall be sent to the sewer! The sewage of the Obama campaign!

[Stuck in Marion County]

River Veteran wrote:

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Hate to tell you but snopes is not the master of what is FACT or FICTION....just like Wikepedia is BS.
I don't have a horse in this race at the moment.
OBAMA is a LIAR and just like the rest in washington. Panders and plays both sides while lying through his teeth. His socialist economic agenda will DESTROY this country. There is NO way to pay for it.
Hell.....he just voted to give ILLEGALS Social Security benefits.....are you kidding me!!!! so did billary.
Clinton is a........well she pretty much takes the cake. Panders, lies, steals, kills (my opinion), etc........
McAmnesty.....He is the lesser of the 3 evils running in my opinion.
What I like about him:
WILL NOT RAISE TAXES.
A "FREEZE" on PORK / No more can be added to bills.
Will release the moratorium on oil and natural gas exploration (we aren't even allowed to LOOK for the resources....thank you Dems)
and
He is considering the "fair tax" (which I have read both books and think it's a GREAT idea)
He knows what has to be done in Iraq..... If he can show me that he is going to surround himself with people that can help turn the slowed (we are NOT in a recession)economy around.
Then I may vote for him.
He has to show me that he has done a complete 180 regarding immigration.
If not.....It's Nader or I'm staying home.

River -

Again BBC disputes the goat herder story. You may not have known that it was true but it was (and the 50 lies spam is just that)

Snopes is absolutely not failsafe. As I've stated, I find them to be generally reliable especially in instances where they agree with truthor fiction.com - the snopes link that I provided included reference to his appearance in Kenya.

Obama lies? Absolutely. I never disagreed - I did say (and continue to maintain) that your "50 lies copy & paste list" is largely BS. Your last post includes some real issues and his possitions that are far more accurate and important than his birthday vs. the Selma march.

Like you I find myself disappointed with all of my options. The only candidate less appealing to me than Obama is HillBill - but the idea of voting for McCain feels like settling for McDonalds when you really want steak and justifying it as a better choice than KFC. For both our sakes, since we apparently can't have steak I hope someone at least throws us a bone

[Stuipd Citizens]

LIES ALL LIES
http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/kenya.as...

[Dakota]

Stuck in Marion County wrote:

RiverRat - BBC stands for British Broadcasting Company - not Barack Website - and the BBC story specifically states that his dad was a goat herder.(which of course directly disproves the first lie in your chain email)
You on the other hand link to some yokle that has set up his on blog along with his wife?
As the Snopes link I also posted indicated - he spoke to Odingo once on the phone AND appeared with him once while in Kenya.(again - not proof that they are cousins or supporters just facts)
Odingo claims (when it is convenient for him) that he is Obama's cousin. Obama states that he has no idea whether this claim is true. Obama's Uncle (who still lives in Kenya) refutes the claim and you and Dakota are convinced that the only one telling the truth is the nut job Odingo?
Like I said - if Obama wins it will because of the backlash that spammers like you and Dakota generate. Please - for the sake of the country try telling people the truth about Obama's possitions instead of clouding the debate with this bs. His proposed tax changes alone should be enough to defeat him if anyone takes time to listen to them instead of more "he's a muslim sympasizer" crap.

So providing information that is documented throughout the world constitutes being referred to as a "spammer".FYI...
Spamming is concidered to be: "the compulsive urge to send huge amounts of unwanted email by individuals (or companies) to a larger number of people".
This is a public forum, not open to spam, so I am not sure what you mean other than people should not post things YOU, do not agree with.

Your reference to "clouding the issue" is interesting. In case you have forgotten, our government has sent out young men and women to a foreign country to fight the "war on terror" against Islamic extremist. Odingo, is considered to be of that ilk. So the fact Obama has been seen with and has campaigned on his behalf, whether or not you care to believe that, should cause concern and his ties to this man should be questioned, after all hasn't he repeatedly stated how he is going to "change" the face of DC, about how he will have a transparent presidency.

Just be cause you do not feel this is an issue or cause for concern, does not make it so nor does it make me a "spammer" for discussing it.

FYI, my son is a soldier so I have every right to question Obama's association with this man.

[River Veteran]

Stuck in Marion County wrote:

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River -
Again BBC disputes the goat herder story. You may not have known that it was true but it was (and the 50 lies spam is just that)
Snopes is absolutely not failsafe. As I've stated, I find them to be generally reliable especially in instances where they agree with truthor fiction.com - the snopes link that I provided included reference to his appearance in Kenya.
Obama lies? Absolutely. I never disagreed - I did say (and continue to maintain) that your "50 lies copy & paste list" is largely BS. Your last post includes some real issues and his possitions that are far more accurate and important than his birthday vs. the Selma march.
Like you I find myself disappointed with all of my options. The only candidate less appealing to me than Obama is HillBill - but the idea of voting for McCain feels like settling for McDonalds when you really want steak and justifying it as a better choice than KFC. For both our sakes, since we apparently can't have steak I hope someone at least throws us a bone

I see your point.........

I must add that the BBC is about as FAR LEFT as you can get. It's kindof like people that believe that Sean Hannity is balanced.... when we know he is strictly conservative.

I don't think a bone will be thrown.

This GREAT country is in peril from the looks of things.

We have socialist and a war hero that doesn't know economics running for pres....

We have hospitals closing down every day do to burdens being put on them from illegals.....

We have gas prices (still nothing compared to EU's prices)rising every day....

We give BILLIONS of economic AID to countries that HATE us or at the least could give a rats azz about us...... We give aid when we have just had the largest increase of welfare recipients in our history.......WHY NOT HELP OUR OWN FIRST.

We have senators (DEM AND REPUB) wanting to give free college to ILLEGAL Immigrants and I'm having to help pay for my niece becuase her parents can't afford it....What about OUR CITIZENS.

We have cities that will not allow our armed forces to recruit in the city and are still getting federal funds.....

When the TAX Cuts EXPIRE.....EVERY middle class american (White, black, red or yellow and thos in between) will be hit the hardest. The DEM candidates say the WONT raise taxes (LIE) yet they have publically stated they will let them expire.

Single mom/dad making $30K a year.....barely getting by is going to have an INCREASE of $330 CONFISCATED from their pay checks EACH MONTH.

A family making $60K will have over $600 CONFISCATED additionally from their paychecks.....

THEY MIDDLE CLASS CAN"T AFFORD THIS.......

As you can tell.........I have a problem with Illegal Immigration.......

I still don't think anyone is going to throw us a bone.

Got my fingers crossed.

[TypicalWhitePers on]

Advocate of Truth wrote:

I sureeeeeeeeee didn't see any black people it the rally in Oregon! looks like ignorance is just in the poor areas.... that why I tell you people, education makes a biiiiiigGGG difference! people with careers, and money, and who spends their time learning something other that kindergarden stuff like colors.... simply don't even have time to be sitting around still amazed that things around them might look different than they do! think about it! there is no other explanation for racism except poor whites trying to compensate for the lack of intelligence!!! that's it yall.... you have been diagnosed... still impressed with colors like a kindergarden.. look teacher, this is redddd! look teacher HIM BLACK, teacher, I know my coooolorrrrssss! see! HIM whhhhhhhhiiiiite!(TEACHER) very good Johhny! very good!
um, 75,000 white rich, educated, successful, happy, employed, mercedez driving, 3 story house living WHITE FOLKS . Rallying around one so called no good man. I know yall feel so betrayed, but you shouldn't because they have classified you people as not being one of them, Hillary's got yall in a box with the retards... if I were yall, I join the high class white folk at any cost! damn that title... it's degrading.lol

I've seen a lot of posts in my day, but this one takes the cake. The ignorance in this posts is so horrifying I just don't know where to begin, but to sum it up you've just called anyone who doesn't support Obama uneducated, poor, racist retards. Not only are you very misinformed, but you are a true example of the Obama supporter. Congratulations on continuing to prove to the American people that you're running a race based on a separation of presumed classes, and not on unity. BRAVO !

[River Veteran]

Stuipd Citizens wrote:

LIES ALL LIES
http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/kenya.as...

SO......what about McAmnesty has you HATING him so much?

Just curious.......You already know my reason for doubting him....just wonder about yours.

[Stuck in Marion County]

Dakota wrote:

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So providing information that is documented throughout the world constitutes being referred to as a "spammer".FYI...
Spamming is concidered to be: "the compulsive urge to send huge amounts of unwanted email by individuals (or companies) to a larger number of people".
This is a public forum, not open to spam, so I am not sure what you mean other than people should not post things YOU, do not agree with.
Your reference to "clouding the issue" is interesting. In case you have forgotten, our government has sent out young men and women to a foreign country to fight the "war on terror" against Islamic extremist. Odingo, is considered to be of that ilk. So the fact Obama has been seen with and has campaigned on his behalf, whether or not you care to believe that, should cause concern and his ties to this man should be questioned, after all hasn't he repeatedly stated how he is going to "change" the face of DC, about how he will have a transparent presidency.
Just be cause you do not feel this is an issue or cause for concern, does not make it so nor does it make me a "spammer" for discussing it.
FYI, my son is a soldier so I have every right to question Obama's association with this man.

When you feel comfortable opening up a spam email, copying the contents and pasting them in their entirity and calling them fact then I am comfortable referring to you as a spammer.

What documentation is there that he is Obama's cousin or that Obama "supports" him? Has he been seen with him? Yes. But I still have not seen evidence of either claim.(stepping on to the pile of boxes and appearing confused as to who just introduced you hardly constitutes campaigning in my part of the world)

(if it can be assumed that a politician supports everyone that they have been seen with ... or even worse if that means they are related ...)

Should we question his relationship w/ Odingo? Absolutely! As I have repeatedley said - if there is proof I want to see it / know it - but if there is not (or if we know something to be false like River's 50 lies spampaste) then why do we pretend that it is fact?