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Dismayed wrote: If Hillary is not the nominee, then we can blame the DNC.
Had our votes been counted following our (FL & MI) primaries, the race would have had a totally different tone and we'd have a very different result today.
The DNC threw Hillary under the bus more than Obama threw his Grandma and "Uncle" Jeremiah under his bus when it was politically advantageous.
We can also blame the DNC when the Republicans take the White House again in November. Florida along with Michigan should play by the rules set by the DNC. If you have a problem with that, take it up with your state DNC committee.
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simon6071 wrote: The ignorant people don't understand whether Florida and Michigan delegates can save Clinton should not be the major issue.
The major issue should be whether the US Constitution protecting the rights of individual voters in the US is being violated and what should be done to correct this blatant violation of US Constitution.
Rights of Voters in Michigan and Florida Must be Respected
The disenfranchisement of the citizens in Florida and Michigan in the Democratic primary is a farce which demonstrates how the voting rights of millions of voters can be illegally stripped away by political manipulation of the legislators of an opposing party and/or due to the mistakes of the legislators of the Democratic Party in those states.
Most of the voters, especially those in Florida, had no idea at all that their votes would end up in the gutter when they exercised their Constitutional Right to vote in good faith just because the state legislators voted to hold the Democratic primary earlier than allowed by the Democratic National Committee.
Individual citizens had no choice but to participate in those primary elections even when they happened to know about the possible consequence of the primaries being held earlier than allowed by the DNC.
Evidently the rule of the primary election has been broken so someone should be responsible for the wrong-doing. Since the state legislators are the ones who committed the wrong-doing, they are the ones who should be punished.
Of course, the most reasonable solution that conforms to the law and can make sure that the Constitutional Rights of individual citizens to vote are not violated is to declare the 2008 Democratic primaries already held in those two states ahead of the official date nullified and set new dates for the official primaries which conform to the rule of the DNC as well as the US Constitution. If this blatant violation of the Constitution is not proper dealt with, it will open the Constitution to further violations and manipulations in future elections.
Any Democrats who has the right to vote in those two states and who
(1)did not know the state legislators had broken the DNC rule by changing the date of the primary, or
(2) who knew about the change of date but had to vote on the date disapproved by the DNC because it was the only Democratic primary approved by the state,
may file a federal lawsuit against the Democratic National Committee for violating their First Amendment Right that protects their freedom of speech in choosing a presidential candidate and the Fourteen Amendment Right of due process from being punished for the wrong-doing of the state legislators.
Any 2008 Democratic presidential nominee chosen by the super-delegates before any such lawsuit is settled or before the Democratic primaries are re-held by a state with any such lawsuit in progress is a contempt of the law and the candidate is an illegitimate candidate challengeable by law. Then the people of Fl and MI should toss out the legislatures that decided to move their primary against the rules of the party.
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it is amazing how many votes & delegates/superdelegates uncle soros' internet hate money can buy off!!!!! obama is a racist liar - and uncle soros and muslim interests are pulling his strings!
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Just An Observer
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Obama needs to realize that Hillary's strategy is to do something to create doubt in the minds of people between now and the convention. She has Rove, Bush, and McCain helpeing her behind the scenes. All this mantra over the last two days, is Hillary calling up the GOP to help her. Since she won't be campaigning after June 3, she will try to work behind the scenes to create some kind of trouble before the convention. The woman has no plans to give up, even after he has the nomination. Obama needs to watch his back. He has enemies from all sides, and that STILL will include the Clintons. She will not go down gracefully. Believe me, although she'll swear she hates the Republicans, if she needs them to help her for "HER" benefit, she'll call them. She will not give up until she sees him take the oath of office, and I suppose even then, she will still try to ruin his Presidency.
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Doesn't matter DISMAYED, I heard the Repubs have located a lost tape of MICHELLE OBAMA railing against "whitey" with Jeremiah Wright at Trinity Church. Seems the Repubs are "hells on wheels when it comes to opposition research". They viewed tape after tape and found Michelle saying some really "mean" things about "WHITEY". Talk about hate...Sheez!!! The Repubs are holding it for an October sneak attack surprise. I warned you guys about the Repubs... Maybe now we will be rid of that inexperienced piece of shit novice...LET'S SEND OBAMA BACK TO THE CHICAGO PROJECTS WHERE HE BELONGS!!! I am dedicating this post to: JAO, STUPID GRANDMOM, RIC RICHLAND, AND THE 92% NORTH CAROLINA BLACK RACISTS WITH A SPECIAL HONORABLE MENTION TO DISPORAIC BLACK MAN...LOL...and PAMIETY too... http://politicalkudzu.com/2008/05/16/michelle... http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/5/16/16205... OH joy...this will play so well with the John Edward Moderates and all the FLAG PIN wearing Reagan Democrats. Dismayed wrote: If Hillary is not the nominee, then we can blame the DNC.
Had our votes been counted following our (FL & MI) primaries, the race would have had a totally different tone and we'd have a very different result today.
The DNC threw Hillary under the bus more than Obama threw his Grandma and "Uncle" Jeremiah under his bus when it was politically advantageous.
We can also blame the DNC when the Republicans take the White House again in November.
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common sense wrote: <quoted text> Florida along with Michigan should play by the rules set by the DNC. If you have a problem with that, take it up with your state DNC committee. Read up on what really happened, then tell me what to do. I had no choice as to the voting date, per our Florida Legislature.
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common sense wrote: <quoted text> Then the people of Fl and MI should toss out the legislatures that decided to move their primary against the rules of the party. Oh, yeah...that's likely when we have a 65% republican majority in the legislature and a republican governor. Our legislature has been so ineffective this year that just maybe, if the republicans will admit this bunch is worthless, we will get a democratic majority. But that's an uphill battle.
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I'm Black, my white brother "cunning klansman". Your closest next of kin. Be warned that you do not end up in hell with the rest of the Klan. When you find yourself dreaming about "Hell" a red bloody river with fire and white bones, and you wake up over and over agin burning, you will know that you're in HELL! Beleive me my closest next of kin, I am Black, and I have been there and back again. cunning klansman wrote: how sad but true our white sister hillary done in by black racists. thus begins the downfall of the white race. boys keep your guns handy and your powder dry. yall will be needing them pretty soon. may god bless the klan and may god bless america.
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Alice wrote: <quoted text>
Hillary is done, cooked, finished! No one wants her and her fact twisting brain. Okay, Alice in Wonderland.
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Alice wrote: <quoted text>
Everyone agreed that these states shouldn’t count. The states new what would happen if they didn’t follow the process. Complain to the states; don’t change the rules mid process. You're forgetting about the people who want their votes and voices heard. Their complaints were falling on deaf ears and the DNC should have become more involved.
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panafrican wrote: Great news, Michigan was coming in again to turn everything upside down.
Stupid state! Are you supporting the candidate 'for change?'... Is there curriculum that teaches acceptance of the thoughts and ideas of others? http://louisville.edu/panafricanstudies/ Or, is this just a smoke screen.
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cunning klansman wrote: folks dont get your underwear in a bunch. deals are being made for fl and mi to count at least partly not in the way they voted since they violated the rules. obama will have clinched the nomination and then fl and mi will be let in when their votes mean nothing and cannot affect the results. that what folks get when they break rules and know the consequences. the dem. party ought to be ashaamed it is even letting them count. apparently the dnc rules stand for nothing. Unfortunately, the people of these states had no say in all of this. The ones who did speak were ignored. Foul play!
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simon6071 wrote: The ignorant people don't understand whether Florida and Michigan delegates can save Clinton should not be the major issue.
The major issue should be whether the US Constitution protecting the rights of individual voters in the US is being violated and what should be done to correct this blatant violation of US Constitution.
Rights of Voters in Michigan and Florida Must be Respected
The disenfranchisement of the citizens in Florida and Michigan in the Democratic primary is a farce which demonstrates how the voting rights of millions of voters can be illegally stripped away by political manipulation of the legislators of an opposing party and/or due to the mistakes of the legislators of the Democratic Party in those states.
Most of the voters, especially those in Florida, had no idea at all that their votes would end up in the gutter when they exercised their Constitutional Right to vote in good faith just because the state legislators voted to hold the Democratic primary earlier than allowed by the Democratic National Committee.
Individual citizens had no choice but to participate in those primary elections even when they happened to know about the possible consequence of the primaries being held earlier than allowed by the DNC.
Evidently the rule of the primary election has been broken so someone should be responsible for the wrong-doing. Since the state legislators are the ones who committed the wrong-doing, they are the ones who should be punished.
Of course, the most reasonable solution that conforms to the law and can make sure that the Constitutional Rights of individual citizens to vote are not violated is to declare the 2008 Democratic primaries already held in those two states ahead of the official date nullified and set new dates for the official primaries which conform to the rule of the DNC as well as the US Constitution. If this blatant violation of the Constitution is not proper dealt with, it will open the Constitution to further violations and manipulations in future elections.
Any Democrats who has the right to vote in those two states and who
(1)did not know the state legislators had broken the DNC rule by changing the date of the primary, or
(2) who knew about the change of date but had to vote on the date disapproved by the DNC because it was the only Democratic primary approved by the state,
may file a federal lawsuit against the Democratic National Committee for violating their First Amendment Right that protects their freedom of speech in choosing a presidential candidate and the Fourteen Amendment Right of due process from being punished for the wrong-doing of the state legislators.
Any 2008 Democratic presidential nominee chosen by the super-delegates before any such lawsuit is settled or before the Democratic primaries are re-held by a state with any such lawsuit in progress is a contempt of the law and the candidate is an illegitimate candidate challengeable by law. BRILLIANT! I usually skim over lengthy postings, but I drank up every word of yours. Sounds like a 'good ol' boy issue!' FROM:http://www.ekklesia.co.uk /node/6580 "Former Vermont Gov. Howard Dean, now chair of the Democratic Party, is a member of First Congregational UCC in Burlington, Vt., and then US Senator Bob Graham is a member of Miami Lakes Congregational UCC in Florida." Both sought and failed to secure a presidential nomination. FROM:http://www.huffingtonpost .com/2008/05/09/bob-graham-cli nton-war-vo_n_101031.html "While Graham said Clinton's decision to remain in the contest was ultimately hers to make, he took exception to the New York Democrat's argument that she, not Obama, is the only candidate who could secure the white working class vote and succeed in the key swing states." The American people who know this is not true are getting tired of whatever games are being played behind closed doors.
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Dismayed wrote: <quoted text>
Read up on what really happened, then tell me what to do. I had no choice as to the voting date, per our Florida Legislature. Read the posting from Simon6071: QUOTE: "...Any Democrats who has the right to vote in those two states and who (1)did not know the state legislators had broken the DNC rule by changing the date of the primary, or (2) who knew about the change of date but had to vote on the date disapproved by the DNC because it was the only Democratic primary approved by the state, may file a federal lawsuit against the Democratic National Committee for violating their First Amendment Right that protects their freedom of speech in choosing a presidential candidate and the Fourteen Amendment Right of due process from being punished for the wrong-doing of the state legislators." AND... "Any 2008 Democratic presidential nominee chosen by the super-delegates before any such lawsuit is settled or before the Democratic primaries are re-held by a state with any such lawsuit in progress is a contempt of the law and the candidate is an illegitimate candidate challengeable by law." Good luck!
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Shelly Berkley will not like that she supports Hillary.
On October 10, 2002, Shelley Berkley was among the 81 House Democrats who voted in favor of authorizing the invasion of Iraq.
Yes Congress Shelly Berkley must authorize this invasion.
Because of her power to do so many Americans soldiers have died there minds forced into horrible things to see and lost limbs.
Many of our wonderful soldiers have not had the chance to grow old or have children because of her personal vendetta of others who are not as powerful and human as she is.
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Dismayed wrote: <quoted text>
Read up on what really happened, then tell me what to do. I had no choice as to the voting date, per our Florida Legislature. The first step in getting your right to vote back is to file a lawsuit against the Democratic National Commitee for violating your Constitutional right to vote.
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cunning klansman wrote: how sad but true our white sister hillary done in by black racists. thus begins the downfall of the white race. boys keep your guns handy and your powder dry. yall will be needing them pretty soon. may god bless the klan and may god bless america. God bless the kkk? A bunch of cowardly, demonic, devil worshiping racists who burn crosses, lynch, murder and bomb innocent Black and Jewish people? You must be dyslexic and think that God is actually the devil. PS: When the great Barack Obama becomes president of the United States of America, why don't you klansman just leave this place and move to Nazi Germany or something.
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