The U.N. Investigates American Racism

[Harrisson]

Trufax wrote:

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How other minorities feel about Blacks is at issue because they are all present in America and the issue is racism in America. Unless you think it isn't racist when Muslim cab drivers won't stop and pick up a Black man?

Also, very interesting how once again you try to prove statistical trends through personal experience. It really speaks about your lack of formal education.

All I did was discredit your stereotypes, that's all. You offered unsupported, stereotypical statements, gave no "statistical trends" to support anything and made remarks that some Mexican-Americans might even call racist ("kill you at the drop of a hat"!!!) and you have the nerve to talk about "lack of formal education."

LOL!

[the_truth_be_tol d2006]

WAKEUPPEOPLE wrote:

<quoted text>Yes, however Caucasians have to return to their land too. Caucasians have to return to the Caucas Mountains of Asia and the Native Americans get their country back. If so...I'm willing to take the remedy on the United Nations complaint. It would be justice.

But Whites conquered the lands. The Native Americans lost. Blacks were farm animals. Totally different realms of reality, regardless of Black Oppression Propaganda. Why would anyone give back what they rightfully conquered?

[Jahaya]

And by the way...I grew up during integration in the South but am in no way racist against anyone who works to improve their life and the lives of their children and/or people. If you look across the US, you will find racism in all races, white, black, hispanic, indian. If all called themselves Americans and not Afri-Amer, Mex-Amer, Nativ-Amer, then we could all go on with our lives. Its those who demand that separate indentity that fuels the fire. If you are born in America, then you are an American.

[Jahaya]

http://www.redroom.com/video/tim-wise-creatio...

The issue of slavery is the attempt of the northern spin-makers to make their invation of the south legitimate. Only 6% of the landowners in the south owned slaves, and of the 6%, almost 1% of those were people of color. If only 6% of the people in the south were slave owners, do you think that the other 94% would have gone to war to protect those 6%'s interest? Study your history, the war was fought over state's rights. Prior to The War for Southern Independance, 80% of the country's wealth was in the south. If the north had allowed the south to succeed, the 80% of the tax revenue would disappear. Prior to the War for Southern Independance, there were slaves in the north as well as the south. The slave trade was primarily driven by the rich families in Mass, CT and Maine. Ulysses S. Grant did not free his slaves until after the end of the war, his reason, who would have helped out while I was gone. Northern spin doctors have worked very hard in indoctorinating school children over the last 3 generations to think the south was bad. The south was not bad, the south did not believe that the federal government had the right to tell who, when, what and how a state could sell its goods. The states of IN, IL, OH, and MI all adopted laws, not policies, but laws stating that no person of color could move into and settle in that state and any person of color who was not a citizen of that state stayed more than 30 days, they could be whipped. These are all documented facts. Mr Lincoln himself stated that he did not think it right that northern states should have to take in those free slaves. He stated, "Though we free them, does not mean we have to take them into our domain." All documented.

[Jahaya]

Jim wrote:

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In an ideal world slavery would have ended here by due process of law.
Your statement is nothing but a reflection of Abe Lincoln's superior judgement.

Mr Lincoln was a racist. Note some of his statements while in his flawed presidency.

[Harrisson]

taxpayer1 wrote:

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It would seem the only racist on this thread is you. If people don't agree with your weak point of view you play the race card...

Wrong, taxpayer1. It's not about you allegedly not agreeing with my point of view.

It's about you TELLING A LIE and getting CAUGHT. I called you out on it, that's all. And your defensive response to being caught in a lie is to whine about "you play the race card." WTF???

taxpayer1 wrote:

And like most race-baiters your biggest fear is facts and stats.

I have no problem with any other races blacks included. I have traveled pretty extensively and worked with people from all over the globe. In fact I am currently working on something in Trinidad . What a huge difference in the blacks there vs here.

And quite honestly all the groups you mentioned have the same problems with the black culture in the US as I do....

Taxpayer1, I wasn't objecting to facts or stats. You HAD NONE!!!

As far as problems with "the black culture in the US," well, guess what? I ALSO have problems with black culture in the USA. But that wasn't what you said. You said it would seem that only blacks are complaining -- which is unsupported BULLSH!T!!

Okay? Bring stats to me and bring diverse points of view, no problem. But don't f*cking LIE TO ME or try to BULLSH!T me with crap about how *only* African-Americans have complaints about racism in American life. That's a political/military tactic that's as old as the hills; it's called "divide and conquer." You're trying to pit one group of disadvantaged minorities against another.

THAT is the only serious problem I had with what you said.

taxpayer1 wrote:

...Take a look at the national polling results for the current election and you'll see I'm right.

And for the record, I work for an Asian comp. and you don't want to know what think about the black culture in the US. Some of my closest friends business contacts are Spanish and Indian,they complain about the drain blacks are on the system.
I guess you could say they have been assimilated into the American culture.

Taxpayer1, I wasn't born yesterday.

Racism exists in ALL groups and I'm quite aware that Asians come from a culture which, to an overwhelming degree, denigrates dark skin color and celebrates light skin color. The same applies to Hispanic culture. This is not news to me, nor is hostility to blacks from these groups.
However, this does NOT mean that these groups are pleased or comfortable with racism directed against THEM by white Americans.

What WOULD be news to me is to hear of Hispanics such as Mexican-Americans advocating for, say, the abolition of affirmative action or to slash welfare spending or to throw up an electrified fence along the entire southern border. If they want to prove their anti-liberal credentials in that way, and impress us with how we can stop a "drain on the system," let's see it. Get the details from your friends, okay? LOL

So, without policy analysis and critique, all you're telling me about is anti-black prejudice in the Hispanic culture. This is pervasive all across Latin America from Cuba to Colombia to Venezuela.

[Anita Bonghit]

What a MORE-ON you are. The UN has nerve to complain about the US. They should clean their own backyard before complaining about US!!!

BTW, you forgot to mention those racist Black Muslims and LaRaza, etc...

Harrisson wrote:

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Damn straight your sociopathic azz needs judgment.
After all the KKK is NOT known for being friendly with Greenpeace, the World Wildlife Fund OR to any people of color of any sort. You fail by your own standards. You need to be called out on the international stage.

[True Moral Conservative]

Anita Bonghit wrote:

What a MORE-ON you are. The UN has nerve to complain about the US. They should clean their own backyard before complaining about US!!!
BTW, you forgot to mention those racist Black Muslims and LaRaza, etc...
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The U.N. doesn't actually have a backyard.

[Country Dick Hick]

UN=bunch of foreign bums living high off the hog.

[Country Dick Hick]

There are no Maybes wrote:

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We have a Negro running for office who won't even honor our American flag! Years ago, while living in West Palm Beach, I went to the Norton Art Museum. They had a full figured statue of a black man on his knees with one arm held out as if asking for something. The other arm was a tightly held fist. That's Obama. "Give me your vote" in one hand and "I hate white America" in the other. Give me the presidency...but, I refuse to wear any symbol of the American flag. We must look like idiots to the rest of the world!!!
Saudia Arabia shuts us out....the UN investigates us for racism....what's next? The terrorists at our door raping our daughters and enslaving our sons? Will you be happy then? No....you will never be happy. An empty bucket. Have you ever met anyone like that? An empty bucket that you try for years to fill. One day you realize that you can spend the rest of your life trying to fill that bucket. It's a waste of time. Trying to appease the black race is a waste of time. You CHOOSE to be bitter...Fine. I choose not to dedicate one moment in trying to make you happy. Hate me. Hate white America. I want you to.
WATCH THIS VIDEO OF OBAMA'S REFUSAL TO WEAR THE AMERICAN FLAG OR SAY THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE!!!
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Thanks for posting the truth, pardner.

[over88ted]

Trufax wrote:

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Every country in the whole damn world suffers racism and violence but none of them have to deal with the cultural melting pot we do. Dare I say it but no other country has experience with the demographics of America and is not fit to judge.
They should first look to their own internal violence because I don't see any utopias out there that have solved racism. In fact, if they can't solve violence and "class struggles" when they only have one race to deal with, how can they even understand the dynamics of hatred that go on here?

We are without question the MOST tolerant country in the world..bar none.
You have to realize that the UN is comprised of a panel of mostly third world dictators, tyrants and despots who wouldnt know freedom if it kicked their camel in the ass.
The UN schooling anyone on anything is a JOKE. They are a self grandizing boodogle that is good for NOTHING but spending and stealing money.
I give the UN about as much creedence as I do someone like Yassir Arafat...who is thankfully dead. A bunch of mentally detached boylovers who joined the U.N. so they could travel to a REAL country for meetings and hopefully get out of their third-world piss pot for a few days.

[Harrisson]

There are no Maybes wrote:

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We have a Negro running for office who won't even honor our American flag! Years ago, while living in West Palm Beach, I went to the Norton Art Museum. They had a full figured statue of a black man on his knees with one arm held out as if asking for something. The other arm was a tightly held fist. That's Obama. "Give me your vote" in one hand and "I hate white America" in the other. Give me the presidency...but, I refuse to wear any symbol of the American flag....

African-Americans have been fighting and bleeding for this country in virtually every single war since this country was founded.

I'm sure you don't want to hear this, but you are going to anyway: Our people are founding members of this republic. We were there from Day One, at the opening shots of the War of Independence. One of the first Americans shot dead by the British Redcoats was an African-American.

As a group, we have walked the walk, when it comes to defending this country. We don't need any lectures on "talking the talk" from posers and clowns - many of whom wouldn't be caught dead in a U.S. Armed Forces uniform. Now, if you are a veteran who loves to fly the flag, great. Do it. I salute your service.

But don't try to tell others how to show respect for this country. Any idiot, con artist or child molester can slap a flag sticker on his bumper along with a yellow ribbon. Any moron can put a made-in-China flag pin on his lapel. I am NOT impressed!!!

As I said, some walk the walk; other folks talk the talk. To each his own.

[Guess Who]

Trufax wrote:

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Harrison might snicker at what you said and think it's funny but he's wrong. Harrison is yet another example of how a Black man has squandered the opportunities fought for by REAL Black men.
"Once you learn to read, you will be forever free." — Frederick Douglass

Who was Frederick Douglas? Where did he get his name?

[True Moral Conservative]

Harrisson wrote:

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African-Americans have been fighting and bleeding for this country in virtually every single war since this country was founded.
I'm sure you don't want to hear this, but you are going to anyway: Our people are founding members of this republic. We were there from Day One, at the opening shots of the War of Independence. One of the first Americans shot dead by the British Redcoats was an African-American.
As a group, we have walked the walk, when it comes to defending this country. We don't need any lectures on "talking the talk" from posers and clowns - many of whom wouldn't be caught dead in a U.S. Armed Forces uniform. Now, if you are a veteran who loves to fly the flag, great. Do it. I salute your service.
But don't try to tell others how to show respect for this country. Any idiot, con artist or child molester can slap a flag sticker on his bumper along with a yellow ribbon. Any moron can put a made-in-China flag pin on his lapel. I am NOT impressed!!!
As I said, some walk the walk; other folks talk the talk. To each his own.

They try to keep us out of Iwo Jima too. Funny how blacks served there fought there and died there, but still couldn't get in that Eastwood movie.

http://www.coax.net/people/lwf/JA_WW2.HTM

[Guess Who]

What's areal man? Was he a fake black man or a real one?

[Guess Who]

What's a real man?

[Guess Who]

Where did Harrison get his name?

[Guess Who]

is that your real name? Or borrowed?

[taxpayer1]

Harrisson wrote:

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Wrong, taxpayer1. It's not about you allegedly not agreeing with my point of view.
It's about you TELLING A LIE and getting CAUGHT. I called you out on it, that's all. And your defensive response to being caught in a lie is to whine about "you play the race card." WTF???
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Taxpayer1, I wasn't objecting to facts or stats. You HAD NONE!!!
As far as problems with "the black culture in the US," well, guess what? I ALSO have problems with black culture in the USA. But that wasn't what you said. You said it would seem that only blacks are complaining -- which is unsupported BULLSH!T!!
Okay? Bring stats to me and bring diverse points of view, no problem. But don't f*cking LIE TO ME or try to BULLSH!T me with crap about how *only* African-Americans have complaints about racism in American life. That's a political/military tactic that's as old as the hills; it's called "divide and conquer." You're trying to pit one group of disadvantaged minorities against another.
THAT is the only serious problem I had with what you said.
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Taxpayer1, I wasn't born yesterday.
Racism exists in ALL groups and I'm quite aware that Asians come from a culture which, to an overwhelming degree, denigrates dark skin color and celebrates light skin color. The same applies to Hispanic culture. This is not news to me, nor is hostility to blacks from these groups.
However, this does NOT mean that these groups are pleased or comfortable with racism directed against THEM by white Americans.
What WOULD be news to me is to hear of Hispanics such as Mexican-Americans advocating for, say, the abolition of affirmative action or to slash welfare spending or to throw up an electrified fence along the entire southern border. If they want to prove their anti-liberal credentials in that way, and impress us with how we can stop a "drain on the system," let's see it. Get the details from your friends, okay? LOL
So, without policy analysis and critique, all you're telling me about is anti-black prejudice in the Hispanic culture. This is pervasive all across Latin America from Cuba to Colombia to Venezuela.

I suspect you have seen all the stats on crime,illegitimacy,high school drop out rates,SAT scores and they clearly point out blacks being only 12% percent of society cost the taxpayer the most money for social handouts of any group.
The Spanish people (they don't like Mexican-American), I know all have jobs as do the Asians and Indians. None of these people support tokenism or hand outs probably because like me, they work hard for their money and made sacrifices to achieve goals rather than smoking crack,spitting out illegitimate kids for money,committing crimes and then saying "hey you owe me".
As for the fence, I have a tough time with it for many reasons, the main one being the cost. I feel there are far more effective ways to protect the boarders than a fence, although it is creating a great deal of work for Schuf Steel Corp. in AZ.. The funny thing is a lot of the guys welding it up are illegal. The second reason is personal, I've made a lot of friends and have a lot of respect for the people in Mexico. I have conducted business down there for several years and the media doesn't do it justice. In fact I felt safer and was treated better than any inner city in the US I have ever been in.
My dis-like for blacks has been forged over the years having seen the damage they do when they begin to move into an area. Irregardless of anything you may call me, or stats or facts you will remain in denial over the fact that the majority of blacks in the US refuse to accept responsibility for their actions and their whole culture seems to revolve around violence.
I'm not leading the war and don't have to blacks have done a good job of separating themselves from society by clinging to whatever the far left feeds them.

[winzy]

Racism exists in the US. It exist against all races in the US. Both statements are probably true for anywhere in the world.

If we had to choose between freedom and individual liberty or putting up with some amount of racism, would it be worth it? Sad to say, I'd rather have freedom and individual liberty and accept some amount of racism then not have freedom and individual liberty.

Many whites are disillusioned with the programs you mentioned. Affirmative action has failed, as have many of the programs. Along with the failure of those programs, the situation for whites in general is not fun and games either.

The situation for the whole nation, just about every facet of our nation, is getting worse. We need to work together as citizens of this nation and fix the problems that we face.

Water quality, food suppies, energy, we can go on and on.

Some parts of Black culture has problems, some parts of White culture has problems too. You know if we work together to solve the other problems, maybe we can make things better for us all. Maybe we can get rid of a little bit or alot of racism by working together to solve problems instead of blaming eachother.

Harrisson wrote:

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Wrong, taxpayer1. It's not about you allegedly not agreeing with my point of view.
It's about you TELLING A LIE and getting CAUGHT. I called you out on it, that's all. And your defensive response to being caught in a lie is to whine about "you play the race card." WTF???
<quoted text>
Taxpayer1, I wasn't objecting to facts or stats. You HAD NONE!!!
As far as problems with "the black culture in the US," well, guess what? I ALSO have problems with black culture in the USA. But that wasn't what you said. You said it would seem that only blacks are complaining -- which is unsupported BULLSH!T!!
Okay? Bring stats to me and bring diverse points of view, no problem. But don't f*cking LIE TO ME or try to BULLSH!T me with crap about how *only* African-Americans have complaints about racism in American life. That's a political/military tactic that's as old as the hills; it's called "divide and conquer." You're trying to pit one group of disadvantaged minorities against another.
THAT is the only serious problem I had with what you said.
<quoted text>
Taxpayer1, I wasn't born yesterday.
Racism exists in ALL groups and I'm quite aware that Asians come from a culture which, to an overwhelming degree, denigrates dark skin color and celebrates light skin color. The same applies to Hispanic culture. This is not news to me, nor is hostility to blacks from these groups.
However, this does NOT mean that these groups are pleased or comfortable with racism directed against THEM by white Americans.
What WOULD be news to me is to hear of Hispanics such as Mexican-Americans advocating for, say, the abolition of affirmative action or to slash welfare spending or to throw up an electrified fence along the entire southern border. If they want to prove their anti-liberal credentials in that way, and impress us with how we can stop a "drain on the system," let's see it. Get the details from your friends, okay? LOL
So, without policy analysis and critique, all you're telling me about is anti-black prejudice in the Hispanic culture. This is pervasive all across Latin America from Cuba to Colombia to Venezuela.