Campbell paid price in NFL

Campbell paid price in NFL

There are 4 comments on the The Indianapolis Star story from Jun 30, 2007, titled Campbell paid price in NFL. In it, The Indianapolis Star reports that:

The sleek black Mercedes whipped into valet parking. Anyone expecting the driver to get out of the car with the same grace and style was in for a shock.

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Dillydally213

Hopkins, MN

#2 Jul 2, 2007
Maugwa wrote:
Lets do more for our VETERANS...Earl. I could give a rats behind that pro football players have blown all their millions and don't have squat left to live on.
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Maugwa, you are either a moron or ignorant (as in uninformed) because the football players in need of better health insurance coverage and benefits, identified in the article, did not make “millions” and because this article has NOTHING to do with whether we should “do more for our Veterans.” The former players are part of the group that created the NFL and that made it a great and popular league. For the most part, players’ salaries rose significantly to the high levels,“millions,” only after these first players retired. Further, the NFL is unrelated to the problems faced by our Veterans. While I agree that the Government should use additional public tax dollars to help our Veterans, this article is reporting on a Government investigation as to whether the NFL should be forced to provide better health coverage to its former players. Further, I think the NFL should provide better health coverage and that the Government should force current players and owners to contribute to a fund that would be used for this purpose if the NFL will not form an adequate policy of its own. Lastly, while I do not know whether Gene Upshaw has a legal obligation to represent the interests of former players, I have the impression that the guy is a real jerk. I think he challenged some former players who were criticizing him to a fistfight.
Walter Skinner

Toledo, OH

#3 Jul 3, 2007
Dillydally213 wrote:
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The former players are part of the group that created the NFL and that made it a great and popular league...this article is reporting on a Government investigation as to whether the NFL should be forced to provide better health coverage to its former players. Further, I think the NFL should provide better health coverage and that the Government should force current players and owners to contribute to a fund that would be used for this purpose if the NFL will not form an adequate policy of its own. Lastly, while I do not know whether Gene Upshaw has a legal obligation to represent the interests of former players, I have the impression that the guy is a real jerk.
I want to say one thing first and then will comment further: the less government in our lives the better.
I don't disagree at all with the plight of these veterans. They played the game with gusto and gave it all they had.
There is a point I disagree with though. Guys like Earl Campbell, Gene Upshaw and others from that era did NOT create the NFL. That honor belongs to guys like Johnny Unitas, Y.A. Tittle, Frank Gifford, Ray Nitschke, Night Train Lane, Roman Gabriel, Bobby St. Clair...these guys and those from that time were instrumental in putting the NFL on the map.
As players like Campbell came along, the popularity of the NFL also grew.
When the NFLPA was formed, it set aside monies from their dues (the dues have to be astronomical) to be used for pensions, healthcare, etc. And all during the existence of the NFLPA, the Union negotiated agreements that allowed for a certain portion of every dollar from the sale of NFL merchandise, proceeds from the sale of game broadcast rights to television and radio networks, and virtually anything else that has the NFL or team logos on it. We all know the average lifespan of a pro football player is in the neighborhood of 5 to 7 years. The NFLPA knew that and so negotiated contracts with the league to cover not only modern era NFLers, but also former players. After all, it is a brotherhood of sorts. Keep in mind that all of this is in addition to the individual contracts players negotiate with their teams. Today's contracts are far more complex than those of even only 10 years ago. These players have the opportunity to make multiplied millions. I'm unsure of the league minimum, but am quite sure it's considerably more than the average Joe on the street makes. And to top it all off, there are levels of league minimums based on a player's time in the league. That's part of the NFLPA contract - so if a player wants to, he can negotiate a better contract on his own, but in no case will he make less than the league minimum. It's a win-win situation for the player no matter what. Plus, if a player is top tiered and has a high enough profile, he also stands to benefit from endorsements.
Our pensions and healthcare are nowhere near that of retired football players.
Players who made millions and blow all or most of it through nose candy, women, recreational drug use and/or 'roids get no sympathy from me.
Some of these players don't have enough sense to set aside for the time they can't play the game any longer. They buy pimped out vehicles they can, multimillion dollar homes (some have more than one),$5,000 suits,$500 shoes, customer tailored shirts, etc.- Why? It's great to have a boatload of money, but it doesn't last forever.
I guess what I'm saying is this: they chose a game that is violent by its nature. Some will never recover no matter what kind of healthcare they get. That's sad, indeed. But keep the government out of it. They have no business dictating to the NFL or the NFLPA what they should do. The last thing in the world the NFL or NFLPA should seek is advice from the likes of Ted Kennedy.
I feel badly for retired players who are all stove up from injuries and such. But as Don Corleone in "The Godfather" said, "This is the business [they] chose."
kevin

United States

#4 Jul 3, 2007
upshaw's statement about he works for current player not retiressis down right apawling all nfl player will retire from the game. and what kind of help do they look forward to for then,this is'nt baseball or basketball they make 150 million contract and less physical sport. people like upshaw who should be working for the nfl intead of the players in the nfl
Adam

Fayetteville, GA

#5 Jul 5, 2007
Once again, we have a failure to communicate. The players that this article is referring to are the ones in the 60s and 70s. That time period pre-dates the multi-million dollar era some of you reference. Plus, given the costs of medical treatment today, it's downright appalling that Mr. Upshaw would make such a statement.
I hope that the government will not have to step in. Mr. Upshaw and Mr. Goddell should be able to do the right thing. I can see making the argument of they chose this business. However, if it is based on the notion that they were getting paid millions, I respectfully disagree.

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