Spurrier: Confederate flag should com...

Spurrier: Confederate flag should come down

There are 50 comments on the The State - South Carolina story from Apr 14, 2007, titled Spurrier: Confederate flag should come down. In it, The State - South Carolina reports that:

Steve Spurrier does not want to be a politician. But the South Carolina coach believes the state would be a better place to live if the Confederate battle flag were removed from the State House grounds. via The State - South Carolina

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dewitt

Hampton, AR

#1 Apr 15, 2007
its not at the state capital its at a Confederate monument get over it

“"Punting is Winning" UCLA”

Since: Dec 06

Somewhere in SoCal

#2 Apr 15, 2007
dewitt wrote:
its not at the state capital its at a Confederate monument get over it
Is it necessary? What point does it still prove? or does it just stir up people and remind them of the worst time in America's history the "Cival War"

The Civil War was fought over 150 years ago, the Confederacy LOST, so maybe you are the one that needs to get over it.

By the way, should the Germans still promote the Reichstag?

Should Nazi Flags be flying @ their WW I & WW II monuments?

Your right get over it, get over the need of having to continue to promote the values and the beliefs behind the Confederate flag and what "IT STOOD FOR" all that will ever do is divide people and spread hate. OK KKK GUY LOL!
Island Joe

Honolulu, HI

#3 Apr 15, 2007
Broadway Joe - I converted my name permanently out of respect to all your latest postings.- Strong point mentioned above.
I had family living in S.C. for one year, due to a job. Couldn't handle the Confederate flag waiving mentality, and came back West.
The South needs to travel more, cross the borders once in awhile and see the light of 2007 & beyond.
WILLIAM HARDEN

Ooltewah, TN

#4 Apr 15, 2007
AMERICA WILL NEVER GET OVER IT'S PASS UNTILL IT LEARNS TO DEAL WITH IT ON AN HONEST BASIS. WHEN THE CONFEDERATE FLAG WAS FLYING IN OUR COUNTRY IT WAS A TIME OF GREAT DIVISION IN THE UNITED STATES.THIS FLAG WHEN IT FLEW OVER
A GROUP OF SOUTHERN STATES. WAS A BANNER
THAT THAT SAID WE BELIEVE IN DE-HUMANIZING
HUMAN-BEINGS AND TREATING THEM AS ANIMALS.
THE TREATMENT OF ANY AMERICAN IN THIS
HORRENDISH FASHSION IS HARD FOR US TO PRECIEVE IN THIS DAY AN AGE.BUT HISTORY SPEAKS FOR IT'S SELF.SO ALL YOU PEOPLE OUT THEIR WHO THINK IT'S OK TO FLY AND
HONOR THIS FLAG. REMEMBER WHAT IT REALLY
STANDS FOR.IT SHOULD BE BURIED JUST LIKE
THE SYSTEM THAT SPAWED IT.
Michael Brezicky

United States

#5 Apr 15, 2007
dewitt wrote:
its not at the state capital its at a Confederate monument get over it
It is at the State Capital, right in front of it as a matter of fact. Everyone sees it if they drive by.

“"Punting is Winning" UCLA”

Since: Dec 06

Somewhere in SoCal

#6 Apr 15, 2007
Michael Brezicky wrote:
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It is at the State Capital, right in front of it as a matter of fact. Everyone sees it if they drive by.
They should be ASHAMED of themselves, the elected officials and their state goverment that continues to allows this.

Are their Tax dollars also paying for the conference ball rooms at the Columbia Hilton and for the white sheets for the next KKK rally?

“"Punting is Winning" UCLA”

Since: Dec 06

Somewhere in SoCal

#7 Apr 15, 2007
WILLIAM HARDEN wrote:
AMERICA WILL NEVER GET OVER IT'S PASS UNTILL IT LEARNS TO DEAL WITH IT ON AN HONEST BASIS. WHEN THE CONFEDERATE FLAG WAS FLYING IN OUR COUNTRY IT WAS A TIME OF GREAT DIVISION IN THE UNITED STATES.THIS FLAG WHEN IT FLEW OVER
A GROUP OF SOUTHERN STATES. WAS A BANNER
THAT THAT SAID WE BELIEVE IN DE-HUMANIZING
HUMAN-BEINGS AND TREATING THEM AS ANIMALS.
THE TREATMENT OF ANY AMERICAN IN THIS
HORRENDISH FASHSION IS HARD FOR US TO PRECIEVE IN THIS DAY AN AGE.BUT HISTORY SPEAKS FOR IT'S SELF.SO ALL YOU PEOPLE OUT THEIR WHO THINK IT'S OK TO FLY AND
HONOR THIS FLAG. REMEMBER WHAT IT REALLY
STANDS FOR.IT SHOULD BE BURIED JUST LIKE
THE SYSTEM THAT SPAWED IT.
Amen, William

“WAR EAGLE”

Since: Dec 06

Location hidden

#8 Apr 16, 2007
Freedom of Speech, bottom line. If the citizens of SC are okay with it then let it be, I mean, we live in a country where people can burn the US flag. As a vet I find this to be a terrible dishonor. Hate groups use the CSA flag, US flag, and Christian flag. I think the flag is a part of history and men died on both sides. Let the people decide. It is a State issue and as such the people of SC should decide. The people of the other 49 should not determine what flag is flown in SC. As long as the US flag is at the position of the highest honor (US flag Code) it shouldn't matter to anyone that isn't native to SC.

Gay marriage is legal in some states and not in others. Two different issues of course, but similar reasoning should be used.

Alabama use to fly the "Stars and Bars", but they took it down because people kept trying to climb up the Captital and do it themselves. The flag is currently flown at certain historic sites and personal dwellings, but not the Capital.

Georgia's flag and Alabama's flag are both variations of St. Andrew's Cross as is the CSA flag. Democracy should not be compromised.

I say, Put it to a vote.

“"Punting is Winning" UCLA”

Since: Dec 06

Somewhere in SoCal

#9 Apr 16, 2007
Eagle3 wrote:
Freedom of Speech, bottom line. If the citizens of SC are okay with it then let it be, I mean, we live in a country where people can burn the US flag. As a vet I find this to be a terrible dishonor. Hate groups use the CSA flag, US flag, and Christian flag. I think the flag is a part of history and men died on both sides. Let the people decide. It is a State issue and as such the people of SC should decide. The people of the other 49 should not determine what flag is flown in SC. As long as the US flag is at the position of the highest honor (US flag Code) it shouldn't matter to anyone that isn't native to SC.
Gay marriage is legal in some states and not in others. Two different issues of course, but similar reasoning should be used.
Alabama use to fly the "Stars and Bars", but they took it down because people kept trying to climb up the Captital and do it themselves. The flag is currently flown at certain historic sites and personal dwellings, but not the Capital.
Georgia's flag and Alabama's flag are both variations of St. Andrew's Cross as is the CSA flag. Democracy should not be compromised.
I say, Put it to a vote.
Historic this, people can look in their history books and watch the history channel about the "CIVIL WAR" Eagle its what it stands for.

I'm for free speech and burning the flag especially if it is South Carolina's State flag at the capital LOL!=)
Southern Pride

Pickering, Canada

#10 Apr 16, 2007
Island Joe wrote:
Broadway Joe - I converted my name permanently out of respect to all your latest postings.- Strong point mentioned above.
I had family living in S.C. for one year, due to a job. Couldn't handle the Confederate flag waiving mentality, and came back West.
The South needs to travel more, cross the borders once in awhile and see the light of 2007 & beyond.
I'm glad you left. Any chance in convincing others like you to leave also?
Island Joe

Honolulu, HI

#11 Apr 16, 2007
Southern Pride wrote:
<quoted text>I'm glad you left. Any chance in convincing others like you to leave also?
Should we all defect to O'Canada like yourself, and bring a Confederate flag for offerings when knocking on your door?

“WAR EAGLE”

Since: Dec 06

Location hidden

#12 Apr 16, 2007
Broadway Joe wrote:
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Historic this, people can look in their history books and watch the history channel about the "CIVIL WAR" Eagle its what it stands for.
I'm for free speech and burning the flag especially if it is South Carolina's State flag at the capital LOL!=)
First of all, I do not own a CSA flag. Secondly, I am objective enough to see both sides of the debate. Hollywood and pop culture have a way of shaping the minset of the masses. I can understand how it can be seen as a symbol of discord, but I can also see how people view it as a symbol of Southern defiance. Tit for tat really. The CSA flag did not fly over slave ships and the south did not institue slavery. The North instituted slavery and it was rampant in the South, no doubt. Many Southern states used slavery as a determining factor for succession, but the North invaded the South more along the lines of losing an 87% tariff revenue and not so much as slavery. This is legistics. Yes, in the end slavery was abolished, though Grant took his to the Whitehouse. Slavery was a serious issue, but only a fool would buy it as the ONLY issue.
The truth is that our country is better as a result of the Civil War/ War of Northern Aggression. It brought about a more centralized government and evolved into a more pwerful nation as far as economics, culture, and military are concerned. This is good, no doubt.
Blacks fought on both sides and the end of the war brought the South's economy and infrastructure to ruin. The South became a Vassal-State(s) of sorts and the hundreds of thousands displaced blacks and poor whites became "sharecroppers", sharecropper is a nice way of explaining serfdom. Such is not easily forgotten.
So in conclusion, I can see both sides. Honestly, I think the people of SC should decide the fate of their flag. In the end it is same to assume that we Americans love a happy ending. There is much more to the war than people are willing to deal with. Now I wasn't an American History major, but I do own a library card. Once again, I do not own a CSA flag. I am not bothered by the flag in SC and if it wasn't there I would not care either.

“WAR EAGLE”

Since: Dec 06

Location hidden

#13 Apr 16, 2007
Okay, I am not done. lol! Just for the record, I do not want to be misunderstood. Basically I see it as a non-issue. It is as important as banning smoking in bars as far as I am concerned. This country has "bigger fish to fry" as the saying goes. If the folkways of the people show a majority of opposition then by all means let democracy rule, but this is an issue for SC and not a national issue. Of course some will counter my logic with ehtics or applied conceptions, but I see it as a Southern matter. If the majority of Southern blacks take offense then this should be duely noted and dealt with, but you may be suprised at the number of black southerners that could truely care less. I will not lose sleep on the issue regardless of the outcome.

“"Punting is Winning" UCLA”

Since: Dec 06

Somewhere in SoCal

#14 Apr 16, 2007
Eagle3 wrote:
<quoted text>
First of all, I do not own a CSA flag. Secondly, I am objective enough to see both sides of the debate. Hollywood and pop culture have a way of shaping the minset of the masses. I can understand how it can be seen as a symbol of discord, but I can also see how people view it as a symbol of Southern defiance. Tit for tat really. The CSA flag did not fly over slave ships and the south did not institue slavery. The North instituted slavery and it was rampant in the South, no doubt. Many Southern states used slavery as a determining factor for succession, but the North invaded the South more along the lines of losing an 87% tariff revenue and not so much as slavery. This is legistics. Yes, in the end slavery was abolished, though Grant took his to the Whitehouse. Slavery was a serious issue, but only a fool would buy it as the ONLY issue.
The truth is that our country is better as a result of the Civil War/ War of Northern Aggression. It brought about a more centralized government and evolved into a more pwerful nation as far as economics, culture, and military are concerned. This is good, no doubt.
Blacks fought on both sides and the end of the war brought the South's economy and infrastructure to ruin. The South became a Vassal-State(s) of sorts and the hundreds of thousands displaced blacks and poor whites became "sharecroppers", sharecropper is a nice way of explaining serfdom. Such is not easily forgotten.
So in conclusion, I can see both sides. Honestly, I think the people of SC should decide the fate of their flag. In the end it is same to assume that we Americans love a happy ending. There is much more to the war than people are willing to deal with. Now I wasn't an American History major, but I do own a library card. Once again, I do not own a CSA flag. I am not bothered by the flag in SC and if it wasn't there I would not care either.
Good for you Eagle, all valid and good points, all I am saying is that the flag though it is historical will always remind southern and Non-Southern Americans alike of the hurt and the pain it caused in the past and what it represents.

Can't South Carolina change their flag as to not to alienate their communities and citizens? can't they take the HIGH Road? aren't they big enough or man enough to STEP UP? It's now 2007

There will never be complete healing as long as that flag serves as a DAILY reminder of the past. I feel it is not apporiate, bottomline.

By the way I also feel it is inapporiate for the Goverment to take GOD off of our Money, Prayer out of Schools and taking GOD out of the Pledge of Allegiance.

Again what principles was this country founded on again? and we wonder why we have so many issues in our country today....Surprise, Surprise.

Take GOD out of everything, and look everything is going to HELL. I thank GOD I can afford the 10K a year to send my son to a Private Christian School and protect him from the CRAP that Nancy Pelosi and the rest of the California Teachers ASSOC want to subject millions of innocent children too. Rewriting history books deleting and ammending textbooks promoting gays issues in the 2nd and 3rd grades? sad but true, but hey that is the climate of the Libs today in Communist Northern Kalifornia.

California has a lots of pluses, however the public school system is a very bad investment based on a return LOL!

Of every tax dollar taken in the state of California .52 Cents goes to our wonderful schools which are pathetic, the other .48 Cents covers everthing else in the State what a joke IMO!

OK SERMON over!!!=)

“WAR EAGLE”

Since: Dec 06

Location hidden

#15 Apr 16, 2007
Broadway Joe wrote:
<quoted text>
Good for you Eagle, all valid and good points, all I am saying is that the flag though it is historical will always remind southern and Non-Southern Americans alike of the hurt and the pain it caused in the past and what it represents.
Can't South Carolina change their flag as to not to alienate their communities and citizens? can't they take the HIGH Road? aren't they big enough or man enough to STEP UP? It's now 2007
There will never be complete healing as long as that flag serves as a DAILY reminder of the past. I feel it is not apporiate, bottomline.
By the way I also feel it is inapporiate for the Goverment to take GOD off of our Money, Prayer out of Schools and taking GOD out of the Pledge of Allegiance.
Again what principles was this country founded on again? and we wonder why we have so many issues in our country today....Surprise, Surprise.
Take GOD out of everything, and look everything is going to HELL. I thank GOD I can afford the 10K a year to send my son to a Private Christian School and protect him from the CRAP that Nancy Pelosi and the rest of the California Teachers ASSOC want to subject millions of innocent children too. Rewriting history books deleting and ammending textbooks promoting gays issues in the 2nd and 3rd grades? sad but true, but hey that is the climate of the Libs today in Communist Northern Kalifornia.
California has a lots of pluses, however the public school system is a very bad investment based on a return LOL!
Of every tax dollar taken in the state of California .52 Cents goes to our wonderful schools which are pathetic, the other .48 Cents covers everthing else in the State what a joke IMO!
OK SERMON over!!!=)
Preach on, Joe! We see eye to eye for the most part and there is no doubts there. Now if you could just recognize AU's rise to dominance then we would have yet another thing to agree about. lol!

“"Punting is Winning" UCLA”

Since: Dec 06

Somewhere in SoCal

#16 Apr 16, 2007
Eagle3 wrote:
<quoted text>
Preach on, Joe! We see eye to eye for the most part and there is no doubts there. Now if you could just recognize AU's rise to dominance then we would have yet another thing to agree about. lol!
I never said Auburn was not good, they are just not on USC's level yet, but again how do you lose to Arkie and Georgia at Home?=)

“WAR EAGLE”

Since: Dec 06

Location hidden

#17 Apr 17, 2007
Broadway Joe wrote:
<quoted text>
I never said Auburn was not good, they are just not on USC's level yet, but again how do you lose to Arkie and Georgia at Home?=)
Implosion. You can't play conservative in the SEC during every game. AU must prove itself this year and win the SEC.

“"Punting is Winning" UCLA”

Since: Dec 06

Somewhere in SoCal

#18 Apr 17, 2007
Eagle3 wrote:
<quoted text>
Implosion. You can't play conservative in the SEC during every game. AU must prove itself this year and win the SEC.
Exactley, by the way it looks like Mitch Mustain is going to go to USC after all!=(

“WAR EAGLE”

Since: Dec 06

Location hidden

#19 Apr 18, 2007
Broadway Joe wrote:
<quoted text>
Exactley, by the way it looks like Mitch Mustain is going to go to USC after all!=(
Why ride the bench at USC? I really don't get it. I still think he should take the nipple out of his mouth!
Smitty

United States

#20 Apr 18, 2007
I love it when people from CA and other states want to chime in and try to change what is going on in OUR state. Everyone wants to point fingers at the South and blame us for slavery, but they forget the pages in the history books where it was the Northerners who were selling the slaves. The flag was taken down and put on a Confederate Monument. That was what was decided so I wish everyone would shut the hell up about it and let it go. I get so sick of hearing the debates on the flag from people who have no idea about SC history and only listen to what has been told to them. If you are a true South Carolinian and know the TRUE history including all of the facts that are INTENTIONALLY left out, then you know what the flag stands for and it definitely is not slavery.

The American soldiers flew the American flag while they were hunting down and killing Native Americans and taking their land. Yet everyone is proud to fly that flag without any disputes of taking it down. I am very proud to be an American and a South Carolinian. I just don't understand the whole flag debate.

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