"Ohio State will be Great, Next Year!"

“We are returning almost everyone from a team that had gone to the National Championship game two years in a row!”

Ohio State will undoubtedly be better next year. I would be the first to admit so. via BleacherReport

[Bucknut 24]

sounds like another whine-ass georgia bullfrog to me. Maybe you and that adams crybaby can console each other while we watch our rotten buckeyes play for another championship. Your an idiot.

[not worried]

this is gettin old, i say that not as the SEC fan that i am, but just as a football fan, why is it that OSU gets to play in the national championship for two straight years, and will be in line for a 3rd? is it because they play a dominating, nationally respected schedule? no, is it because they have impressive wins against quality teams? no, is it because they prove there worthiness troughout the season playing in the Big 10? no, is it because they have played good games in the past couple of years against top tier teams?, no. Instead we are stuck w/ people living on the hype of what OSU once was, what the Big 10 once was, and what people still hope the Big 10 and OSU can be, instead they are a sub-par team, playing a weak schedule in order to look good, then collapsing when they get there shot at a true good team, its gettin old, tiring and stupid. Look, last year when OSU was defeated by Florida, all i heard was "next year" well "next year" came and you were defeated soundly once again buy, at best, the second best team in the SEC, cause Georgia woulda beat ya worse, now once again we hear "next year" well hopefully next year Georgia gets there shot and they to demolish the "great" buckeyes, i am an Alabama fan by trade, but whoever can keep the SEC wining titles is cool with me, cuase even w/ the #1and2 teams in the poll being from the SEC morons still feel that the SEC is overrated, only 2 loses in the bowl season is damn impressive, sure Michigan, the Big 10 #2, beat Florida, the SEC #4(i believe), brag on that, then realize what your saying. But i hope next yaer that OSU at least is in the game at half time if they get another shot at the title.

[Silverdawg]

That should read "Ohio State will be good, next year... maybe."

As for the national championship, I'm hopeful my Dawgs will be there, but they - unlike OSU - have to play a tough schedule, pretty much finish undefeated, and win the SEC: arguably the toughest feat in college football.

OSU on the other hand, has to win all but one game in a soft schedule, hope some other teams stumble in the last week, and pray that Michigan doesn't have your number.

I only hope Ohio State does make it back to the BCS Championship Game for a third time; it's very likely they'll face Georgia if they make it... and go 0-10 lifetime against the SEC in bowl games.

[DawgDave]

not worried wrote:

this is gettin old, i say that not as the SEC fan that i am, but just as a football fan, why is it that OSU gets to play in the national championship for two straight years, and will be in line for a 3rd? is it because they play a dominating, nationally respected schedule? no, is it because they have impressive wins against quality teams? no, is it because they prove there worthiness troughout the season playing in the Big 10? no, is it because they have played good games in the past couple of years against top tier teams?, no. Instead we are stuck w/ people living on the hype of what OSU once was, what the Big 10 once was, and what people still hope the Big 10 and OSU can be, instead they are a sub-par team, playing a weak schedule in order to look good, then collapsing when they get there shot at a true good team, its gettin old, tiring and stupid. Look, last year when OSU was defeated by Florida, all i heard was "next year" well "next year" came and you were defeated soundly once again buy, at best, the second best team in the SEC, cause Georgia woulda beat ya worse, now once again we hear "next year" well hopefully next year Georgia gets there shot and they to demolish the "great" buckeyes, i am an Alabama fan by trade, but whoever can keep the SEC wining titles is cool with me, cuase even w/ the #1and2 teams in the poll being from the SEC morons still feel that the SEC is overrated, only 2 loses in the bowl season is damn impressive, sure Michigan, the Big 10 #2, beat Florida, the SEC #4(i believe), brag on that, then realize what your saying. But i hope next yaer that OSU at least is in the game at half time if they get another shot at the title.

What's with all this Ohio State bashing? Yeah, they have lost two consecutive BCS championship games. They won it in 2002. At least they've gotten there. You want a shot at the BCS championship you'd best win your conference, something Georgia didn't do last year.
Wasn't it just 2006 when Ohio St dominated the Texas Longhorns? Soft schedule? They play USC the next couple of years and Oklahoma is on the schedule after that.
Maybe you need to look at the Big 12. Sure, Oklahoma is good, but can't seem to win a bowl game either. Year in and year out they win the Big 12 then fold in bowl games. UT plays in bowl games and wins against mediocre competition in the always important Holiday Bowl.
Bottom line is the Big Ten is as good a conference as the Big 12 and PAC-10. The SEC is by far and away the toughest conference.

[Josh W]

Ohio State has taken some very unfair criticism from many in the media. But they aren't a mediocre team, and they certainly aren't worlds behind the SEC elites. The talent is there. The speed is there. Even the coaching is there for the most part (although I will agree that they need to improve on making adjustments on the defensive side of the ball). Florida beat OSU soundly, the game wasn't close, I'll give you that. But if you look at the numbers of the LSU game, OSU compared pretty favorably in spots. The difference was an array of bad penalties and lack of making plays. That's no excuse, however, and I did think LSU was the better team, no question. They were obviously also more experienced and benefited from playing tougher opponents regularly. The Big 10 is down now too, no question. Nevertheless, that isn't OSU's fault. But come on Big 10, do better (I'm talking about everyone not named OSU, Mich., or Wisconsin).

To those OSU schedule bashers out there..

OSU has clearly taken the lead in playing big, out of conference games, much more so than most SEC teams (exception: LSU over Va. Tech)(oh yeah, nice mid-season home game Alabama vs. Louisiana-something...). They've played a home and home with Texas the last 2 years, play USC the next two years, and have Miami (I know they aren't what they used to be) on the schedule as well as Oklahoma over the next few years. Yeah the Big 10 is down, not OSU's fault, just like it wasn't Florida's fault not that many years ago when the SEC was down (remember Florida fans the schelacking that Bobby Bowden handed you, 60 some points...)

Making a case for OSU...

If you're a numbers person, look at them. 66-11 over last 6 years, including 1 title and 4-2 in bowl games (3-2 in BCS bowls). Their 2 bowl losses were to the national champs. Add all this up and it tells me that OSU, USC, and LSU have been the greatest college football programs over the last 6 years. It isn't even close, nobody else is in the same league with these 3 schools over that span. That's partly the reason why the OSU/USC game may become the most hyped regular season game ever next Sept. And let's pretend for a second that OSU does have another nice year and loses the title game again, it still doesn't diminish the greatness of that program. If should only help confirm it. And if OSU somehow wins the title next year ... it could be one of the greatest 7 year runs in recent college football memory.

[Truebuckeyefan]

The author is right. We have PLENTY of TALENT!!!
Our coaching is the BIG PROBLEM...need to get some well versed and experienced coaches in, instead of family and friends...all the talent in the world won't help us until we do!!! GO BUCKS!!

[Matt from Columbus]

We play USC which is tougher than any team in the SEC! Nice try though.

Silverdawg wrote:

That should read "Ohio State will be good, next year... maybe."
As for the national championship, I'm hopeful my Dawgs will be there, but they - unlike OSU - have to play a tough schedule, pretty much finish undefeated, and win the SEC: arguably the toughest feat in college football.
OSU on the other hand, has to win all but one game in a soft schedule, hope some other teams stumble in the last week, and pray that Michigan doesn't have your number.
I only hope Ohio State does make it back to the BCS Championship Game for a third time; it's very likely they'll face Georgia if they make it... and go 0-10 lifetime against the SEC in bowl games.

[Silverdawg]

Josh W wrote:

Ohio State has taken some very unfair criticism from many in the media.

I'll agree that OSU has taken some tough hits, but it seems to me that a lot of the media was in their corner: before AND after the game. I have read some scathing comments by some sports writers - and admittedly posted some comments of my own - after their loss to LSU. A lot of commentators were pulling for OSU, saying that this year they were better prepared because of what happened last year.

Most of my beef has been with Big Ten Commissioner Jim Delany, mostly because he's a.) against a playoff system and b.) has been talking trash of his own about the student-athletes of the SEC; that letter he wrote and posted on the conference website just wasn't right... kind of like when Georgia President Mike Adams proposing an 8-team playoff system the day after LSU had won the BCS Championship!

Josh W wrote:

...OSU has clearly taken the lead in playing big, out of conference games, much more so than most SEC teams (exception: LSU over Va. Tech)(oh yeah, nice mid-season home game Alabama vs. Louisiana-something...).

I'll give OSU props for scheduling USC next year and in 2009, but I wouldn't say they've "clearly taken the lead" in scheduling big name teams. They play Youngstown State and Ohio at home in 2008, Toledo on the road & N. Mexico State at home in 2009, then Marshall and Miami at home along with E. Michigan either at home or on the road in 2010. Don't get me wrong, my Dawgs have Ga. Southern & C. Michigan at home next year, but they also play at Arizona State on the road. The only tough game I see OSU playing outside the Big Ten is USC this year; all the rest seem to be at home.

Josh W wrote:

Making a case for OSU... If you're a numbers person, look at them. 66-11 over last 6 years, including 1 title and 4-2 in bowl games (3-2 in BCS bowls)...

Numbers are nice, especially when you have national championships to back them up. While Georgia is still searching for their third, OSU has won seven; I give credit where credit is due. Georgia hasn't exactly been a slouch over the past six years either: 64-15, including 2 SEC Championships, 5-1 in bowl games, and 2-1 in BCS Bowls.

Interesting thing about Georgia and Ohio State is while they've both been around for over a hundred years, they've played eachother only once in the '93 Citrus Bowl. It's also interesting to note that in 1942 they shared the National Championship; OSU finished 9-1 while Georgia finished 11-1, beating UCLA 9-0 in the Rose Bowl.

OSU will be a force to be reckoned with next season, but Georgia's a program on the rise and will be tough to beat. If they make it through that Gauntlet of a schedule, it should prepare them to win it all.

[not worried]

As far as the scheduling goes, look at it, u got USC next year, thats great, you got michigan, decent, but to say that as big 10 schedule is tougher then an SEC schedule lets look

alabama's 08 schedule
Sat, Aug 30 Clemson

Sat, Sep 06 Tulane

Sat, Sep 13 Western Kentucky

Sat, Sep 20 Arkansas *

Sat, Sep 27 Georgia *

Sat, Oct 04 Kentucky *

Sat, Oct 18 Ole Miss *

Sat, Oct 25 Tennessee

Sat, Nov 01 Arkansas State

Sat, Nov 08 LSU *

Sat, Nov 15 Mississippi State

Sat, Nov 29 Auburn *

Ohio State
ug. 30 Youngstown State

Sep. 6 Ohio

Sep. 13 at USC

Sep. 20 Troy University

Sep. 27 Minnesota

Oct. 4 at Wisconsin

Oct. 11 Purdue

Oct. 18 at Michigan State

Oct. 25 Penn State

Nov. 08 at Northwestern

Nov. 15 at Illinois

Nov. 22 Michigan

all that i can say to that obvious weak schedule is that im glad u put USC on there, that way it actually resembles a college schedule, for a minute i was thinking it was a D2 schedule

[LSUfreak]

Wow, so soon after the azz raping they took two years in a row, OSU should focus on moving down to Div 2A and leave the BCS and bowl games to the teams that actually play hard nose football, and yes of course OSU will be good next year, they play NOBODY, its been proven two years running and they will get their azz ripped wide open again.......OSU sucks, plain and simple, good luck in the weedeater bowl cause thats about where they deserve!

[Silverdawg]

Matt from Columbus wrote:

We play USC which is tougher than any team in the SEC! Nice try though.
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First, USC being better than any team in the SEC is highly debatable; LSU, Georgia, and maybe Florida or Tennessee could take 'em.

Second, that's one team; what about the other 11? OSU has seven home games next year, while Georgia has six.

As for road games, apart from USC, OSU's road schedule consists of Wisconsin, Michigan State, Northwestern, and Illinois. Georgia plays S. Carolina, Arizona State, LSU, Kentucky, and Auburn on the road and Florida in Jacksonville.

After OSU plays #3 USC, they play two more ranked opponents. While they're both on the road, they're also near the bottom of the Top 25. I see five ranked teams on Georgia's schedule - all 16 or higher - including the reigning National Champion, who is 451-166-21 (.723) at home.

[Stanislaw]

Maybe they can hope for the Pac-10 in the BCS? Against the SEC they will not improve.

[T-Town Clown]

not worried wrote:

As far as the scheduling goes, look at it, u got USC next year, thats great, you got michigan, decent, but to say that as big 10 schedule is tougher then an SEC schedule lets look
alabama's 08 schedule
Sat, Aug 30 Clemson
Sat, Sep 06 Tulane
Sat, Sep 13 Western Kentucky
Sat, Sep 20 Arkansas *
Sat, Sep 27 Georgia *
Sat, Oct 04 Kentucky *
Sat, Oct 18 Ole Miss *
Sat, Oct 25 Tennessee
Sat, Nov 01 Arkansas State
Sat, Nov 08 LSU *
Sat, Nov 15 Mississippi State
Sat, Nov 29 Auburn *
Ohio State
ug. 30 Youngstown State
Sep. 6 Ohio
Sep. 13 at USC
Sep. 20 Troy University
Sep. 27 Minnesota
Oct. 4 at Wisconsin
Oct. 11 Purdue
Oct. 18 at Michigan State
Oct. 25 Penn State
Nov. 08 at Northwestern
Nov. 15 at Illinois
Nov. 22 Michigan
all that i can say to that obvious weak schedule is that im glad u put USC on there, that way it actually resembles a college schedule, for a minute i was thinking it was a D2 schedule

damm good post I think Troy has a shot !!!!

[Silverdawg]

Another thing to consider about that USC game is that it's early in OSU's schedule; if they lose, they'll have plenty of time to recover form it.

[T-Town Clown]

Silverdawg wrote:

Another thing to consider about that USC game is that it's early in OSU's schedule; if they lose, they'll have plenty of time to recover form it.

I will cut my manhood off if OSU gets back in the big show !!!!

[X-MAN]

Matt from Columbus wrote:

We play USC which is tougher than any team in the SEC! Nice try though.
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USC will meet the gators next year. UF 45-USC 32. OSU will play in the NC game if every team has 3 or more losses. they can't play outside of the big ten. unless they play 1aa schools. USC will beat them by 48pts

[Josh W]

"I'll give OSU props for scheduling USC next year and in 2009, but I wouldn't say they've "clearly taken the lead" in scheduling big name teams."

I still say they have. Your argument against mine is bogus, anyhow, all you've done is point out the patsies on OSU's schedule. SEC teams have similar caliber teams in their out of conference schedule. Where's Georgia's big, out of conference opponent? All SEC teams schedule out of conference patsies as well. Don't make that unique to OSU, or any major school for that matter.
Recent and future marquee out of conference opponents for OSU: Texas, USC, Miami, and Oklahoma. Nobody compares to that, no one. Over the last 8 years those teams have won 5 titles. Clemson? puh..lease!

I know at this point that your argument is going to be that the SEC shouldn't have to schedule big names because the conference is so tough. That's true the last two years, and probably next. But that's no more a credit to Georgia than it's OSU fault that the Big 10 is down right now.

[Silverdawg]

Josh W wrote:

I still say they have. Your argument against mine is bogus, anyhow, all you've done is point out the patsies on OSU's schedule. SEC teams have similar caliber teams in their out of conference schedule. Where's Georgia's big, out of conference opponent? All SEC teams schedule out of conference patsies as well. Don't make that unique to OSU, or any major school for that matter.
Recent and future marquee out of conference opponents for OSU: Texas, USC, Miami, and Oklahoma. Nobody compares to that, no one. Over the last 8 years those teams have won 5 titles. Clemson? puh..lease!
I know at this point that your argument is going to be that the SEC shouldn't have to schedule big names because the conference is so tough. That's true the last two years, and probably next. But that's no more a credit to Georgia than it's OSU fault that the Big 10 is down right now.

All I've done is point out patsies on OSU's schedule? If you read my comment before you replied, you'd have noticed I did say,

Silverdawg wrote:

...Don't get me wrong, my Dawgs have Ga. Southern & C. Michigan at home next year, but they also play at Arizona State on the road...

Every team plays patsies: some more than others. You say OSU plays USC next season as if everyone should lay down and dismiss the rest of their schedule. It's ONE game!

I already pointed out Georgia's big out of conference opponent and gave Ohio State props for scheduling USC. I would remind you that when you play in the SEC, there's no need to go outside the conference to find tough teams because they're already there - as if history and an overwhelming set of stats in previous comments have not already nailed that point - so at least you admit that.

It's interesting that you include Miami in the list of "marquee" out of conference teams; I recognize the Hurricanes have won a few national championships, but they finished 5-7 last year and didn't even make it to a bowl game; if you were talking about Miami (OH), I might be a little more impressed.

Georgia always plays intrastate rival Georgia Tech as one of their out of conference games; GT hasn't been tough in a long time, but they usually put up a pretty good fight. Georgia will also play teams like Oklahoma State, Arizona State, Colorado, Clemson, and Oregon over the next couple of years; none of them have recent national championships to brag about, but look within the SEC and there are three who have won four titles in the last ten years.

If you still want to talk about who has the tougher schedule, check out what the NCAA has to say on the subject:

http://web1.ncaa.org/d1mfb/Internet/toughest%...

Georgia's schedule is ranked #7, while OSU is tied with Clemson for #38. When looking at the SEC as a whole, their schedules are ranked as follows:

#3 - Florida
#5 - Mississippi
#7 - Georgia
#9 - South Carolina
#10 - Kentucky
#12 - Tennessee
#14 - LSU
#18 - Alabama
#23 - Auburn
#27 - Mississippi St.
#36 - Vanderbilt
#41 - Arkansas

Out of all the FBS teams, five SEC teams boast schedules in the top 10 and nine in the top 25. I realize that being in the Big Ten is not OSU's fault, but the schedules are what they are and being in the toughest conference isn't Georgia's fault either.

So what is Georgia and the rest of the SEC supposed to do, schedule even tougher teams to ensure they capture all top 12 spots?

[Silverdawg]

OSU's schedule ranked #24 last season, so even with the addition of USC, 2008's a weaker one than 2007.

[not worried]

silverdawg brings up a point that is over looked in the scheduling process, OSU's schedule this year does have USC, but even with the now falling giant on that schedule it is worse then last year, w/ the teams that they scheduled out side of USC and the mediocre Big 10 teams that play them this year, it would seem they would attempt to balance it some, but no, you instead counter the over all weakness of your schedule by scheduling troy, youngstown state, and ohio. Thats great, the reason that SEC dont schedule a USC type team for an outta confrence game is simple and logical, we dont have to, with a confrence that annually boasts at least 6-7 bowl eligable teams(this past season that number was 10, w/ Vandy and ole miss being the two that were not) there is no reason to make the road much harder for an SEC team then it already is, alabama has a D2 school, and Tulane on there schedule but still have a top 20 SOS, why might you ask? look at in confrence, Kentucky, florida, lsu, tenn., georgia.... that right there is better than any strech a Big10 team has to do, yet when OSU has one lose, against USC, and runs the table against there "big time" teams in the big 10, they will get a nod over an SEC team that say runs the table, is 11-0 and loses by 3 in the SEC championship game, teams like OSU are why i say a playoff is needed, there's a reason that the great Tressel in winless against the SEC, he knows that reason, and everybody else does to.