Carter still has his bruises - Hawaii Sports

It's been more than 17 years and Michael Carter can still feel the jolt shooting through his torso.

[AkuHead]

I remember that Notre Dame game. UH recovered an onsides kick late in the game, went on to score to make it close, but weren't able to convert again on the ensuing onsides kick. I remember Doug Vaioleti going like 50 yards of the now banned fumblerooski play. You should have seen that big Tongan rumbling, bumbling and stumbling down the field.
That game saved Bob Wagner's butt. If UH doesn't come back late in the game, he was gone. Then he ties for the WAC title (with 2 losses) the next year and that saved his butt for another 3 years. Hugh Yoshi-da is a hell of a good man and he would never ever fire anyone unless it absolutely had to be done. Bob Wagner was lucky to have lasted as long as he did at UH.
Bonb Wagner is a good guy, was a good D coordinator, but a horrible head coach.

[wagner was good]

AkuHead wrote:

I remember that Notre Dame game. UH recovered an onsides kick late in the game, went on to score to make it close, but weren't able to convert again on the ensuing onsides kick. I remember Doug Vaioleti going like 50 yards of the now banned fumblerooski play. You should have seen that big Tongan rumbling, bumbling and stumbling down the field.
That game saved Bob Wagner's butt. If UH doesn't come back late in the game, he was gone. Then he ties for the WAC title (with 2 losses) the next year and that saved his butt for another 3 years. Hugh Yoshi-da is a hell of a good man and he would never ever fire anyone unless it absolutely had to be done. Bob Wagner was lucky to have lasted as long as he did at UH.
Bonb Wagner is a good guy, was a good D coordinator, but a horrible head coach.

HORRIBLE describes the coaches that came after him (excluding JJ). Wagner did a very good job with what he had AND introduced the Paul Johnson offense (look where Johnson is at now)which was run wonderfully by Carter who I think was the toughest QB UH ever had. Tammy Chang was an embarrassment compared to Carter and doesn't deserve to be in top 50 of greatest UH players.

[Oahu Portagee]

Job Opening: Stevedore

Required Experience:
Must be a former UH football player. All others need not apply.

Pay: Plany kala

Duties:
Sit around and talk story. Once in a great while gotta unload one ship.

[AkuHead]

Actually Pordagee, it's former ILH and OIA All-Star football players who are the stevedores. Including those who went play for UH. Kaipo Spencer, former All-Star St Louis QB, is a stevedore. He neveh went play for UH.
Boyd Yap too, former All-State running back at Kamehameha when they had great teams in the 70's.
That's why I get so ticked off when the NCAA mandtes players actually go to school and get a degree. I get ticked off because most of them already got their career jobs lined up, degree or no degree. Jobs that pay more than the average person with a degree. Fireman, policeman, stevedore, Halawa prison guard.

[nocanladat]

Oahu Portagee wrote:

Job Opening: Stevedore
Required Experience:
Must be a former UH football player. All others need not apply.
Pay: Plany kala
Duties:
Sit around and talk story. Once in a great while gotta unload one ship.

WOW, i smell some jealousy.

[nocanladat]

AkuHead wrote:

Actually Pordagee, it's former ILH and OIA All-Star football players who are the stevedores. Including those who went play for UH. Kaipo Spencer, former All-Star St Louis QB, is a stevedore. He neveh went play for UH.
Boyd Yap too, former All-State running back at Kamehameha when they had great teams in the 70's.
That's why I get so ticked off when the NCAA mandtes players actually go to school and get a degree. I get ticked off because most of them already got their career jobs lined up, degree or no degree. Jobs that pay more than the average person with a degree. Fireman, policeman, stevedore, Halawa prison guard.

why blame a person for HIS connections, Why HATE

[hail mary]

AkuHead wrote:

Actually Pordagee, it's former ILH and OIA All-Star football players who are the stevedores. Including those who went play for UH. Kaipo Spencer, former All-Star St Louis QB, is a stevedore. He neveh went play for UH.
Boyd Yap too, former All-State running back at Kamehameha when they had great teams in the 70's.
That's why I get so ticked off when the NCAA mandtes players actually go to school and get a degree. I get ticked off because most of them already got their career jobs lined up, degree or no degree. Jobs that pay more than the average person with a degree. Fireman, policeman, stevedore, Halawa prison guard.

I don't understand your jeolousy. The kids put themselves on the line with the threat of crippling injuries. It takes TALENT to do well in sports - and there's nothing wrong with rewarding that talent after they've helped university reap the rewards.

[AkuHead]

jealousy? me? Your nuts! I am happy for ALL UH football players who are set up with good paying jobs after their playing career is over. Good for them! I want ALL top Hawai'i high school football players to see that too. That if they also play for UH, they too will be set up in good paying jobs in Hawai'i after their career. Those that go to the mainland, only get set up in good jons in the mainland, not in Hawai'i.

[Poi]

According to this thread and this topic, football players tend to end up stevedores.

Kaipo Spencer
Boyd Yap
Nuu Faaola
Micheal Carter

What other football players got the 100K plus job that requires no training, no schooling, no talent?

Who else?

Come on now, you know of some others.

[On the Waterfront]

Poi wrote:

According to this thread and this topic, football players tend to end up stevedores.
Kaipo Spencer
Boyd Yap
Nuu Faaola
Micheal Carter
What other football players got the 100K plus job that requires no training, no schooling, no talent?
Who else?
Come on now, you know of some others.

Bruddah, half of the stevedores are former football players, including quite a few former pros. If they fielded a team, they could probably beat UH. Of course, they'd bet one way or another and throw the game, but that's another story.

[Poi]

On the Waterfront wrote:

<quoted text>Bruddah, half of the stevedores are former football players, including quite a few former pros. If they fielded a team, they could probably beat UH. Of course, they'd bet one way or another and throw the game, but that's another story.

Names.

Give the names.

Union minds want to know.

[AkuHead]

Poi, Keoni Jardine is a stevedore. Former All-Star safety at Kamehameha mid 70's, went on to play at UH.
Had one ILH All-Star Samoan lineman from Damien, mid 70's. I forget his name. Stevedore too.

[Oahu Portagee]

AkuHead wrote:

Actually Pordagee, it's former ILH and OIA All-Star football players who are the stevedores. Including those who went play for UH. Kaipo Spencer, former All-Star St Louis QB, is a stevedore. He neveh went play for UH.
Boyd Yap too, former All-State running back at Kamehameha when they had great teams in the 70's.
That's why I get so ticked off when the NCAA mandtes players actually go to school and get a degree. I get ticked off because most of them already got their career jobs lined up, degree or no degree. Jobs that pay more than the average person with a degree. Fireman, policeman, stevedore, Halawa prison guard.

Yep, I agree with you. My only question is how the heck do they get away with that kind of hiring practice?? It is so blatantly obvious that ex-athletes get "pulled" in to be Stevedors. How come nobody blows the whistle? What about Equal Employement Opportunity? What about Non-discrimination??

[AkuHead]

Poi, there is training required to be a stevedore: ILH All-Star football player in the decade of the 70's.

[Oahu Portagee]

nocanladat wrote:

<quoted text>
why blame a person for HIS connections, Why HATE

Because in this day and age, one must not be hired based on "connections". One must be hired based on QUALIFICATIONS. I knew guys who could already drive one fork lift, heavy equipment, and one 18-wheeler, and they neva get hired. Yet get guys who got absolutely no experience, and they get hired. How you figa??

[Translator]

Now THERE was an exciting QB.
Thank you, Michael Carter.

[Bob]

Dont forget...Stevedores also hire ex-cons. Stevedores is obviously not a Equal Opportunity Employer. Just remember to get in you have to know someone in there otherwise you're application gets thrown in the trash...same goes for matson.

[nocanladat]

Oahu Portagee wrote:

<quoted text>
Because in this day and age, one must not be hired based on "connections". One must be hired based on QUALIFICATIONS. I knew guys who could already drive one fork lift, heavy equipment, and one 18-wheeler, and they neva get hired. Yet get guys who got absolutely no experience, and they get hired. How you figa??

Its up to the OWNER of the company to hire who HE like,
the guys you knew that could drive a forklift, heavy equipment, and one 18- wheeler, they had all this experience from who? from one company that gave them a chance to, GET THAT EXPERIENCE. How you figa??

[AkuHead]

Pordagee, Halawa prison guard is the same way. Be a former high school All-Star football player then get hired there. Alan Lane was a star DL'man and star pitcher on Kamehameha teams of the 70's. He a Halawa Prison guard.
Thor Salanoa too, Halawa prison guard. All-Star football player at Radford who went play for BYU mid 80's.
That said, I got no problem with that at all. Companies can hire whoever the hell they want to. In fact, I kind of like it. High school footbal is not kinf g as it wa sin the 70's. So I doubt you see star high school players nowadays getting stevedore jobs. The ones I know of were Kamehameha and St Louis All-Stars in the decade of ther 70's. maybe now you got to be a star UH football player. Which is good. Let local kids know if they stay home and play for UH, there will a job waiting for them as a stevedore if they don't make the NFL. Nice trade off. I'm all for that. But no stevedore jobs for bench warmers. Only stars.

[Poi]

Oahu Portagee wrote:

<quoted text>
Because in this day and age, one must not be hired based on "connections". One must be hired based on QUALIFICATIONS. I knew guys who could already drive one fork lift, heavy equipment, and one 18-wheeler, and they neva get hired. Yet get guys who got absolutely no experience, and they get hired. How you figa??

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Eh juss like Ariyoshi.

When he was governor, he took applications for staff, he evaluated them, he ranked them, he interviewed them and then he picked only the best of the best.

Guess what?

Every single one of the 43 staff he had over his years as Governor was .......... Japanese.

No joke.

True.

Of course that's just a coincidence. He was just hiring the best for the state and that's who came up.

Just like when the Plantation Republican Haole would hire people. The best was always a Haole. Funny coincidence, no?

Ahhhh, the world goes round.