Hawaii football coach's new salary ma...

Hawaii football coach's new salary may top $1M

There are 287 comments on the The Honolulu Advertiser story from Dec 27, 2007, titled Hawaii football coach's new salary may top $1M. In it, The Honolulu Advertiser reports that:

Gary Pinkel, the football coach at long-struggling University of Missouri, was given a $550,000-a-year raise this week.

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las vegas

Las Vegas, NV

#1 Dec 27, 2007
Once again, Herman and his cronies have dropped the ball.
Should've signed JJ before the season.
Now the cost will rise, money that could have been spent on the facilities.
Just The Facts - Man

Chicago, IL

#2 Dec 27, 2007
Herman Frazier just can't say the right thing. For his information, Jones' contract is already being played out in the media with several stories linking Jones to other programs in the past few weeks.

In my opinion, at $1 million or even somewhere close to it, Jones would be grossly overpaid. For example, Joe Paterno has been a head coach for 42 years. In those 42 years, his teams have made bowl appearances in 33 of them, winning 22 bowls including two national championships. Joe Paterno will make just over $500,000 in salary this year -- lest year he made under $491,000 in salary. Jones' accomplishment is minimal compared to Paternos. Let's use Joe Paterno as a standard and adjust Jones' salary accordingly -- by doing so, Jones deserves a pay cut.
UHFAN

Honolulu, HI

#3 Dec 27, 2007
Lets take Frazier's bonus, and give it back to the Athletics Dept. That guy, he just seems to always wait till the last minute for everything. Normally, you don't wait till someone is in the last year of their contract before you start negotiating. What's with the dragging of the feet on everything?
The end of the article, shows that Jones is willing to stay here. We know he does, he loves being here. I do believe that there is a hidden message in his quote: "right situation" would be one where "whoever I'm working for believes in the same principles that I believe in. It is being at the right place with people who know what it takes to win. Quite honestly, many teams in the National Football League really, from top to bottom, don't really know what it takes to win.". I actually think, that this also applies to UH. We all know Jones has criticized the facilities, and has tried to work toward getting UH better athletics facilities. This is a committment to winning. Now here's the hidden message(at least in my belief)... If UH does NOT give the Athletics Dept the bulk of the Sugar Bowl cash windfall, Jones would probably consider leaving. I don't believe that it's even about the money for himself. I think it's UH's commitment to the program. We all know he came here, with lofty goals of wanting to be a top program. Money is what it takes. I believe that Jone's statement does not even refer to the NFL, but pertains to UH as well, as a warning shot. Don't invest in the Athletics Dept, and he'll know UH is not committed to the same principles he believes in. I do think Jones wants to stay here, but UH has to show committment to the program.
Pomai

San Francisco, CA

#4 Dec 27, 2007
Now JJ won't turn down a raise, but what he wants in his signing a new contract is, better facilities, more money for the rest of the coaches, and a better recruiting budget. He is more interested in getting UH to invest in the overall program than his salary. IMHO
Not a Lawyer

Wahiawa, HI

#5 Dec 27, 2007
"Among coaches whose teams are in The Associated Press' Top 25 poll, Jones'$800,016 salary ranks 25th. The Warriors, the only unbeaten team, are ranked No. 10."
By this standard, JJ is underpaid--this year. OK, then what about the following years if the team drops out of the rankings? Does his salary drop to previous levels? One can't have it both ways.
If we want to be competitive with the rest of the US, we need to pay competitive salaries--of course, this includes ACADEMICS too. Remember, the players are STUDENT athletes. Bringing in a star faculty member can result in grants to UH that far exceed the entire athletic budget, enhance the reputation of UH, and add value to each and every UH alumni's degrees--so why are we not willing to do the same for the faculty? Where are our priorities?
Mel Padello

United States

#6 Dec 27, 2007
Despite the fact that June has indicated that his salary should be discussed after the season, I am somewhat amused that Herman has not taken a more aggressive posture to secure the "powers to be" to facilitate June's salary....it would not be alarming to me that June will command a salary of $1.5 million and more.
Brandon Tate

Kaneohe, HI

#7 Dec 27, 2007
That much money for a child's game. It amazes me.

eMH

“chicken nut bread”

Since: Nov 07

Honolulu, HI

#8 Dec 27, 2007
JJ and his successful team has really put Frazier on the hot seat. While I have had nothing against HF in the years before, his decision making this past season has generated a lot of stories in the papers...and I dunno if its for the better.

If JJ gets a boost, I'd like to see the Assistants get one too. There needs to be stability in the ranks...
Pokayboy

San Diego, CA

#9 Dec 27, 2007
A correction to the article..JJ was never the head coach of the San Diego Chargers, but rather, an assistant. He was offered the job but chose instead to go to the UH..a wise move.

HF, the Proscrastinator, should be paid off and sent on his way. This man has no common sense when it comes to dealing with common sense issues.
The final block of tickets is put up for sale to the public but in the next breath, they say they don't know how much is available. Like, DUH.

May the good Lord bless and watch over the Warriors, the coaches and the families as they all take a well deserved respite from a grueling and exciting football season. May they find strength in knowing they are backed by locals all over the world. GEEV'UM, ONE MO' TIME.
fan

Pearl City, HI

#12 Dec 27, 2007
Give this dude what ever he wants! He's the best coach in the nation, taking nothings and turning them into somethings. If he ever gets the players he really wants, Hawaii better get ready to head to the BCS every year.

Since: Oct 07

PC

#13 Dec 27, 2007
Yeah, lets pay the coach $300,000. At the same same time why don't we give Von Appen another chance.$1,000,000 for coaching football? WHY NOT? You really think that the governor gets paid only his salary from the state?? Time to get a reality check. I don't know about you guys but I play to win and if we need money to win, then so be it. TWO WORDS - VON APPEN
berrys

Waipahu, HI

#14 Dec 27, 2007
Joe Pa as the standard, he's 81 years old! Sure, let's resurrect Bo Schembechlar and Woody Hayes, they'd gladly work for $400K. Joe Paterno is from another time, and Penn State will pay his replacement 2million per year even though he will not be half the Coach Joe was.
And I don't see what any Governor does to deserve to get paid more than a successful football coach filling up a stadium with fans.
pua

Honolulu, HI

#15 Dec 27, 2007
June Jones should get a big raise he earned it. GO BOWS
Brandon Tate

Kaneohe, HI

#16 Dec 27, 2007
Poker Ace - Brown guy wrote:
Yeah, lets pay the coach $300,000. At the same same time why don't we give Von Appen another chance.$1,000,000 for coaching football? WHY NOT? You really think that the governor gets paid only his salary from the state?? Time to get a reality check. I don't know about you guys but I play to win and if we need money to win, then so be it. TWO WORDS - VON APPEN
It's good to see why a college education costs so much. The main reason to go to college is to get educated and earn a degree. Glad to see a cut of the tuition going to pay a schlub to tell men in tights to run that way, chase the other men in different colored tights, grab him and make him fall down. Football fans are wieners.
MauiSlugbug

Ewa Beach, HI

#17 Dec 27, 2007
Todd wrote:
$1,000,000.00 to coach football? Are you serious? How can a football coach at a state university get paid more than the governor? I would rather my tax money be used for important things like road maintenance and schools. Thats why our state government is so messed up. We spend more time thinking about football and other frivolous things than we do important issues.
Todd, I have no problem paying a football coach more than the governor because he had a better year than she did. Coach Jones led his team to a 12-0 record, a Number 10 ranking in all of the major college football polls and a berth in a BCS bowl game--and he did all of this with inadequate funding and substandard facilities. As for the governor, I'll only mention two of her most recent accomplishments for the sake of brevity: the Superferry fiasco and her refusal to provide funding for the teachers' drug testing program (even though it was she who insisted that random drug testing be included in the teachers' contract).

You may think college football is a "frivolous" thing, but the UH Warriors provide a valuable community service because they've brought joy and pride to hundreds of thousands of fans here in Hawaii and abroad. There are some things that you can't put a price tag on. As they say in that popular credit card commercial, some things are "priceless."
Bulldog Blake

Acworth, GA

#18 Dec 27, 2007
GOOD GRIEF! Hawaii and June Jones has a long way to go before he is earning even 1MIL!
You guys need to continue supporting the man after the University of Georgia spanks you all over the Super Dome.
Remember: You can't spell sUGAr without UGA!
And your QB is O V E R - R A T E D !
The man will have more passes deflected than he completes!
I7 BOY

Honolulu, HI

#19 Dec 27, 2007
Just The Facts - Man wrote:
Herman Frazier just can't say the right thing. For his information, Jones' contract is already being played out in the media with several stories linking Jones to other programs in the past few weeks.
In my opinion, at $1 million or even somewhere close to it, Jones would be grossly overpaid. For example, Joe Paterno has been a head coach for 42 years. In those 42 years, his teams have made bowl appearances in 33 of them, winning 22 bowls including two national championships. Joe Paterno will make just over $500,000 in salary this year -- lest year he made under $491,000 in salary. Jones' accomplishment is minimal compared to Paternos. Let's use Joe Paterno as a standard and adjust Jones' salary accordingly -- by doing so, Jones deserves a pay cut.
Okay I get your point but Jopa coaches in a state that has deep pockets. Isn't Pennsylvania like 6th in the nation in economic output. This means that PENN STATE is a state runned/land grant university that operates on a 1.4 billion dollar endowment. Some of that money is put to use by the athletic department to upgrade athletic facilities used by football players. Thus making Jopa's job alot EASIER when recruiting big time recruits that can give you all of the accolades he earned.

On the flip side Hawai'i has a limited budget with limited help from the state. Coach Jones is building him a program off table scraps and making due with what he got. He is making chicken salad out of chicken shit. The best will not come here if they don't have anything to come to. Geez, isn't part of his contract fundraised by Na Koa????!!!

I hope Coach Jones LEAVES Hawai'i for more money its bout time the state puts up or shuts up. This state is always looking for handouts, freebies, and a hard work for free attitude. You all know its true. So please do not grumble about UH football when we go back into the dumps when he leaves for greener pastures.
neighbor

Mililani, HI

#20 Dec 27, 2007
give Jones the money. at least something works in this state
Bulldog Blake

Acworth, GA

#21 Dec 27, 2007
You guys give teachers drug tests? Wow! The mainland wouldn't have any teachers if we did that like Hawaii! Damn! I think it is time to move to the Big Island! That's where Mr. Wrestling 2 lives, I think!
Paoa

Honolulu, HI

#22 Dec 27, 2007
The fact is a successful football program such as JJ has brought to Hawaii brings in a lot of money to the State and pays for the other athletic programs at the university. That being said, half of his current salary is paid for by boosters - not by the university. We have a choice - if we want to be a big time program we should pay the costs including facilities and coaching. We should also bite the bullet and pay the costs for a first class state university academic program. If not, get ready for mediocrity and another Van Appen AND continuing problems with higher education. We need something we can have pride in. GO WARRIORS!!

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