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NIce game

East Liberty, OH

#1 Nov 15, 2007
BU's defense was incredible last night and the offense took over in the 2nd half. It is great to watch the 3 freshman on the court, I have not seen a Bulldawgs team this deep since I've been watching, and when Jukes is eligible and Veasley is back, look out! Great game Dawgs!
IndyGirl

Indianapolis, IN

#2 Nov 15, 2007
I was at the game last night, rooting for the Sycamores. It was painful to say the least. But, they're young. Hopefully they'll see some success.

Good luck Butler! I'll be cheering you on this season.

To the Dawg Pound: you guys were great! What a show of support to the team!
Pacer Pride No More

Carmel, IN

#3 Nov 15, 2007
Thank God for Butler Basketball. It beats the hell out of watching those pathetic over paid, under achieving loosers that stink up Conseco on a nightly basis. If you want to see quality basketball played by players who actually care and show a little effort go watch Butler,IUPUI, or UIndy play. If you want to see lazy,uncoachable,crybaby loosers by all means waste your time and money and go watch the Pacers.
Attendance

Zionsville, IN

#4 Nov 15, 2007
I'm more than a little concerned about this ticket prices/attendance issue. Looks like the attendance for the first home game of the season was almost HALF of last season's AVERAGE. Might be time to rethink the 300% increase in prices of tix, Mr. Collier, because that's not good. In any event, GO DAWGS!!!!!
You Tell Em

Greenwood, IN

#5 Nov 15, 2007
Pacer Pride No More wrote:
Thank God for Butler Basketball. It beats the hell out of watching those pathetic over paid, under achieving loosers that stink up Conseco on a nightly basis. If you want to see quality basketball played by players who actually care and show a little effort go watch Butler,IUPUI, or UIndy play. If you want to see lazy,uncoachable,crybaby loosers by all means waste your time and money and go watch the Pacers.
Hmmm. Third post. Much quicker than I thought.
Dawg Pound

Gary, IN

#6 Nov 15, 2007
Butler did look good, its a shame that ticket prices went up because attendance was a little light. When that place is full its loud and probably the best sporting events in Central Indiana for the $$.
CNP

Pittsboro, IN

#7 Nov 15, 2007
Congrats on the win Butler. As a Sycamore fan, this is the only game I will root against you. Good luck with the rest of your season.
Yup yup

Gary, IN

#8 Nov 15, 2007
Attendance wrote:
I'm more than a little concerned about this ticket prices/attendance issue. Looks like the attendance for the first home game of the season was almost HALF of last season's AVERAGE. Might be time to rethink the 300% increase in prices of tix, Mr. Collier, because that's not good. In any event, GO DAWGS!!!!!
Collier made a lot of changes there. Like many people in power he wanted to reinvent the wheel. Canceling the Lacrosse and Men's Swimming program, raised ticket prices, amoung other things. Its not the same but hopefully he will re-embrace the "Butler Way" and make Hinkle Fieldhouse an experience families can enjoy with out breaking the budget. Regardless, GO DAWGS !
reddog

United States

#9 Nov 15, 2007
ISU's Gabe Moore says the Dawgs aren't much better. That's something I'd expect from a player no one wanted... grow up. I suspect he's always wanted to be a Dawg but knows he'll never be one!!!!!!!!!
BU Season Ticket Holder

Orestes, IN

#10 Nov 15, 2007
Great game last night. Campbell, Green, and Graves are going to be a force. Howard gives us a force down low that we haven't had since Hanje and Cornett. When Jukes is eligible in a few weeks it is going to be great. I'm sorry Betko but senior loyalty may have to be sent away. Howard, Jukes, and Streicher works for me.
Butler loses money

Rushville, IN

#11 Nov 15, 2007
Did Mr. Collier's plan to increase revenue work? Here are the results based on the price of season tickets:
Last night's attendance [3555]@$18 each netted $63,990. If last year's average attendance [5734] had shown up @$12 each, it would have netted $68,808. Last night lost $4,818. One would have expected a higher crowd for an in-state rivalry as well. In case you didn't notice, Mr. Collier, people in this city don't like increased prices [taxes], just ask Bart Peterson.
Dawg Fan 84

Indianapolis, IN

#12 Nov 15, 2007
It is unfortunate that Butler had to raise ticket prices and eliminate programs, but when one program (men's basketball)has to support all the others, prices have to go up. No other sport at Butler generates any income. This is the same at other schools except that football and basketball carry the load for the entire atheletic department at larger colleges and universities
Abe

Pryor, OK

#13 Nov 15, 2007
Pacer Pride No More wrote:
Thank God for Butler Basketball. It beats the hell out of watching those pathetic over paid, under achieving loosers that stink up Conseco on a nightly basis. If you want to see quality basketball played by players who actually care and show a little effort go watch Butler,IUPUI, or UIndy play. If you want to see lazy,uncoachable,crybaby loosers by all means waste your time and money and go watch the Pacers.
Agree 1000%. Watching the Pacers then Butler is like watching two different sports. I love the former. Too bad the media and the thug culture thinks the Pacers and their horrible NBA tacky style is where it's at.

Can you imagine a cancer like Tinsely being as patient as Graves. Or an overrated egomaniac like Oneal actually waiting for his shot and playing defense? LOL.
Abe

Pryor, OK

#14 Nov 15, 2007
Butler loses money wrote:
Did Mr. Collier's plan to increase revenue work? Here are the results based on the price of season tickets:
Last night's attendance [3555]@$18 each netted $63,990. If last year's average attendance [5734] had shown up @$12 each, it would have netted $68,808. Last night lost $4,818. One would have expected a higher crowd for an in-state rivalry as well. In case you didn't notice, Mr. Collier, people in this city don't like increased prices [taxes], just ask Bart Peterson.
Very witty and well-reasoned. Good point!
godogsgo

United States

#15 Nov 15, 2007
Great game and great show of versatility against an in-state rival that seemed to have some talent.

On the ticket prices, we need to stop comparing our prices to those of Big 10 schools. We are not the Big Ten, we don't have the alumni base of the Big Ten and I, personally, don't want to be treated like a Big Ten fan. I certainly paid enough in tuition for the school, but I'd like to be able to have an affordable family experience at the basketball games. By the way, I was at the Ball State game last weekend and the highest priced tickets in the building were $12. Yes, that would be 33% lower than the Butler tickets for a bigger school with more alumni.
Frank Angst

Waddy, KY

#16 Nov 15, 2007
Not that I disagree with the attendance arguments, but keep in mind that the average includes some of last year's big games. When some of this year's big games arrive, the average will be back up.
That will be the point to judge and run stats.
Anyway, the main thing is Butler looked very good last night. I'm looking forward to a big season.
Johnny Lawrence

Bethesda, MD

#17 Nov 15, 2007
Are you sure Butler lost money last night vs. an ave. attendance game from last yr? It's not as simple as your example. Do you account for the walk ups vs. season tix? Parking, concession stands, merchandise sales, alumni club admittance, etc.?

Season tix are paid for in advance and, as a plus, the cash is earning interest for Butler. Also, for example, if 50% of the attendance last night was walk up and a higher number of season tix this yr are already paid for, thus nearly 5k paid tix, how do you lose money at higher prices? It's possible but not a simple attendance X's tix price = total revenue equation. Don't think you know everything when you don't consider the simplest of variable factors.

Trust the most effective pricing strategy will be in place over the next few yrs, even if it prices you, as an individual, out of the mkt.

I'm no Barry apologist and haven't agreed with all of his decisions. However, consider all that is involved with maximizing revenue before saying he's wrong. Wait for the final tally to form that opinion.
BU Season Ticket Holder

Orestes, IN

#18 Nov 15, 2007
Sorry to say but the crowd, ticket prices, and all of that other stuff really doesn't matter. The team looked great and it will an exciting year. The crowd that will be present at our Elite 8 run this year matters more to me than Hinkle attendance. Those that went to Buffalo and St. Louis last year understand what I am saying.
Butler oldtimer

Jeffersonville, IN

#19 Nov 15, 2007
Give Tony credit. He realized the value of a large crowd even if they paid peanuts to get in. In the 1960s a season basketball ticket was $5 -- and it included a couple of Big Ten opponents.
76 Bulldog

Rushville, IN

#20 Nov 15, 2007
The Dawgs looked to be in good form last night. If the Freshmen continue to blend into the mix and Jukes complements the group, this could get very interesting, especially when Veasley returns. Don't worry too much about who starts a game, this team should be deep enough to get everyone some rest. Coach will find the rotation rhythm, and those who deserve minutes will get them. I hope that Green and Graves get some more spot rests. Graves looked tired at the end of last season and Green struggled at the line. I believe this would be rectified with addtional rest throughout the season. GO DAWGS!

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