It's time to quit whining about DST

It's time to quit whining about DST

There are 146 comments on the The Indianapolis Star story from Oct 26, 2006, titled It's time to quit whining about DST. In it, The Indianapolis Star reports that:

Our position: Smooth transition to observing daylight-saving time shows there's no need to fall back.

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ernest ruble

United States

#1 Oct 27, 2006
Though I agree with DST, as a teacher and a father, I disagree with part of your comment.

Yes, my children and school students still slept at night, but they sure struggled getting to sleep at their regular bedtimes in April and May.
By the way, 6:30 a.m. still came at 6:30 a.m.

My kids were tired, struggled with their homework completion, behavior changes (as a result of being overtired), and eating habits. Their biological clocks were significantly altered, and I am not sure they have ever really made the adjustment.

Experts and your staff may argue that science doesn't show these outcomes. Well, I am their father and I live with them; it happened. It will be interesting to see what effect the reverse will have.
T Werner


#2 Oct 27, 2006
Dan Odle

United States

#3 Oct 27, 2006
What could be good about kids standing in the dark every morning to board a school bus?
Joe Ferguson

Myrtle, MS

#4 Oct 27, 2006
Why are the supporters of DST always telling the people who do not agree with them to stop whining and live with it? Is this not a state where everyone has a right to have their point of view put forward and to vote out of office their elected representatives if they do not support that view? I am tired to supporters of DST trying to silence anyone who does not goosestep to their point of view. Is this Indiana or Germany of 1940?

Indianapolis, IN

#5 Oct 27, 2006
Hmmm...why didn't all the crybabies stop whining about Indiana staying on standard time year-round??

Daylight savings time is an outdated, useless concept in the 21st century. It was created to help out farmers when the United States was largely an agrarian society.

I thought it was quite admirable that Indiana stuck to its guns. There should have been a national push for everyone else to fall in line with Indiana. DST is a concept whose real usefulness came and went with light bulbs and headlights. Good to see Indiana moving forward to the 1800's.

BTW...good analogy with class basketball. That sucks too!
Raymond Rymph

United States

#6 Oct 27, 2006
Your own poll in today's paper indicates that DST has not worked out well for most people. The Lafayette Journal Courier poll on the same subject showed an overwhelming rejection of DST. Like WMD's in Iraq, the benefits of DST are not there.
Central Fan

Indianapolis, IN

#7 Oct 27, 2006
The problem isn't DST but the time zone that was chosen. When the sun'S highest point is at 2 p.m., the clock is not aligned with the sun. When 7:00 a.m. is dark most of the year, Hoosiers miss the sun's natural wake up cues. When it isn't dark until 10:00 in the get the message! Central time would fit Indiana better than Eastern.
Mike Buschmann

Indianapolis, IN

#8 Oct 27, 2006
DST is a fraud, but you won. My family tries to go dirt track racing every weekend. We have endured dusty, miserable track conditions every weekend from having to start too early. How about giving it a rest, the gloating isn't necessary.

Chicago, IL

#9 Oct 27, 2006
Right on Plato...Indiana should have shown the rest of the country, less Hawaii and Arizona, that not changing time leads to better productivity and business opportunity. If Americans can't get DST straight, what about business partners in Europe and Asia? Talk about seen being backwards.

Arizona and Hawaii, by the way, seem to be doing just fine on their non-DST systems. At least we could have been aligned with Chicago..after all, more people fly out of O'Hare than they do out of JFK or LaGuardia.

Penny wise and dollar stupid (again). As everyone can't fix stupid.

Sellersburg, IN

#10 Oct 27, 2006
The Poll about it tells you that well over 1/2 of the Hoosier's Polled were NOT HELPED by it.
This will be turned back yet again. Seriously, If you want DST, go someplace that has it and has people that WANTS IT. The MAJORITY OF HOOSIERS DO NOT WANT DST.

Sellersburg, IN

#11 Oct 27, 2006
I have to agree with others about not liking DST.

It has been a detriment to me and everyone that I know.
Wrong Again

Manchester, OH

#12 Oct 27, 2006
Yeah, this editorial is way off the mark. DST is the worst decision Indiana's ever made. It's awful to get up every morning out of the year and drive to work in the dark. Without DST, half of the year permitted the commute to be in the light. It's so backwards.
Karen Hertz McDonald


#13 Oct 27, 2006
The Star's editors say to quit "whining" about DST? Who made them God.

They whined for the past 20 years to get this DST change instituted.(It's not whining when they do it.)

Indiana tried DST 30 years ago, the majority did not like it, and it was reversed. How soon they forget.

DST 'might' be ok if all of Indiana were in the Central Time Zone instead of Eastern.

When it is noon, the sun should be straight 'UP' in the sky; as it is now, with Eastern and DST combined, it is not.

It is just for 'big business',not for the people 'living it'. Oh, I know, golfers, etc., like the extra hour at night, but the majority of people in Indiana, mothers with small children who need to be in bed by 8pm, mothers with children who have been standing out in the dark to catch the bus in the mornings, and those who like to walk or jog before work (and are now doing it in the dark between 5 and 6 am all summer long) are the majority.

Moms, keep 'whining' as the Star puts it and it will be changed back. Again, the Star insults its it does on a daily basis with its editorials.


#14 Oct 27, 2006
Hoosiers have got to be the stupidest people on the planet. Before the DST change, our winters were on the same time as the East Coast. IF we were to be on Chicago time, the sunsets would be at 4:30, not 5:30 as it will be in December. Your precious children will still be going to school in the dark, but you'll have the added bonus of having them go home in the dark. If you don't like DST, then move to Arizona and leave the state to the smart people.

Indianapolis, IN

#15 Oct 27, 2006
DST has not worked for me. There are quite a few people who are morning people...and DST took my morning! I used to get up early and go for my walk and get a few things done in my yard BEFORE I had to go to work. But since I don't prefer to walk by myself in the dark, I am not able to do that. I also hate seeing the kids, standing on the corner for the the dark. Indiana..dare to be different..say NO to DST.
Karen Hertz McDonald


#16 Oct 27, 2006
Raymond Rymph wrote:
Your own poll in today's paper indicates that DST has not worked out well for most people. The Lafayette Journal Courier poll on the same subject showed an overwhelming rejection of DST. Like WMD's in Iraq, the benefits of DST are not there.
The Star only believes its own polls when it suits them. I recently emailed Dennis Ryerson, managing editor of the Star, a comment about the Star's poll regarding illegal immigration and whether or not the citizens of Indiana want them dealt with and deported if they are here illegally; taking jobs meant for senior citizens, teenagers, and using our benefits not meant for them. The majority of readers want it stopped.

I consistently ask the Star to publish more letters and pertinent information about the 'negative' aspects of the illegal alien issue.(All the Star publishes are the wonderful events Indiana and Indianapolis holds for Mexicans.)

Here is what he wrote back: "This is not a scientific poll, representing a cross section of our readers in terms of income, race, sex, age, education, etc. Typically, those people most exercised about an issue speak up, so I'm not surprised that this yielded the response that it did.


He basically called those of us who answer his polls 'stupid'.

Here is his email address: as I doubt he lowers himself to read anything in these comments or on the Star's message boards. I believe these comment options and the message boards are just a way for him 'to get us off his back'; they were probably getting too many letters-to-the-editor regarding issues he doesn't agree with.
Bruce D Ranger

Indianapolis, IN

#17 Oct 27, 2006
No problem with DST and observing it.

However, most IF not all of Indiana should be in the Central Time Zone rather than the Eastern Time Zone.

It is ludicrous that we are aligned with New York City rather than Chicago.

Because Indiana is a border state, there will likely always be some debate on where the time zone boundary should lie.

From a geographic standpoint, we are too far west to be in the Eastern Time Zone.

DST was a decent first step, the State of Indiana needs to complete the journey and petition the appropriate Federal agency to move the majority of the state to the Central Time Zone.

Sincerely yours,

Bruce D Ranger
Little John

Du Bois, PA

#18 Oct 27, 2006
You are as dumb as our Governor.
Carolyn from Ft Wayne

United States

#19 Oct 27, 2006
Sorry, will never be ok with DST. Don't believe the benefits are there, except for maybe golfers. People in my home office of PA, laugh at us. Our state is a mess. Try traveling through doing business. We have more extensive variances within our own state making it difficult to schedule appointments. And, this was leveled down upon us by our legislators who in alot of cases did not listen to their own constituents. Who employs who?

Indianapolis, IN

#20 Oct 27, 2006
I think most Hoosiers are more upset that their representatives did not listen to them re DST than they are about having the change take place. These people were voted in to represent the majority, and they failed on this issue of time. Your man Mitch somehow sold them a story of IN getting rich when we change our clocks. Ok, Mitch, show me the money!!!

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