IU recruit to re-open process

IU recruit to re-open process

There are 258 comments on the The Indianapolis Star story from Mar 10, 2008, titled IU recruit to re-open process. In it, The Indianapolis Star reports that:

Indiana University could lose a nationally ranked player from its 2008 recruiting class.

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IOU-NLV

Covington, OH

#246 Mar 12, 2008
Illinois not interested. No scholarships available and if there were, not offering anyway!
Spitzer and Sampson

Brownsburg, IN

#247 Mar 12, 2008
Hookers,phone sex and Hoosiers.

It just don't get any better than that!
dstrase

Dixon, IL

#248 Mar 12, 2008
The NCAA has unofficially put sanctions on IU for next year. By not making a decision on Sampson until late the the summer, any recruit who has other options will drop Indiana like a hot rock. The NCAA has found IU guilty without a hearing, and their is nothing IU can do about it. The basketball program has been shut down by Sampson and the NCAA. Even if Sampson is found not guilty, the punishment will cause IU to lose recruits for next year. Why is the hearing delayed until summer? I think you know the answer.
Dude

Troy, MI

#249 Mar 12, 2008
dstrase wrote:
Why is the hearing delayed until summer? I think you know the answer.
Contrary to what you are thinking, this is not some conspiracy where the NCAA is trying to take down IU. After allegations are presented, the offending school has a defined period of time to appeal, form a defense, etc... This would be the case no matter which school cheated. It has nothing to do with IU. The process is described in the NCAA bylaws and was there way before IU got into trouble. If they would have followed the rules, they wouldn't have to worry about the poor timing involved.
Hilarious

Crown Point, IN

#250 Mar 12, 2008
ET phone home wrote:
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If I.U. is so good and popular,I guess the fact they're losing every other week on national tv is ok too. I know if I'm thinking about going to I.U.,and I see that power house of college basketball Penn. St. punk iu on ch. 343 or ESPN,I'm sure sick in the head if I think twice about going to Bloomington after that debacle. You won't see iu on national tv next year. You'll be lucky if the Big 10 Network decides to show them any at all.
Of course, with that thought process, I guess you should not attend IU. Basketball is not everything in life for us everyday, normal people. If you make a college decision on the ratings of the basketball team, I think you shuold be demoted to 6th grade and start again. Apparently, your priorities in life are really screwed up!
hilarious part deux

Lafayette, IN

#251 Mar 12, 2008
Hilarious wrote:
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Of course, with that thought process, I guess you should not attend IU. Basketball is not everything in life for us everyday, normal people. If you make a college decision on the ratings of the basketball team, I think you shuold be demoted to 6th grade and start again. Apparently, your priorities in life are really screwed up!
funny how when IU was winning championships, the basketball team was the first thing people talked about. oh NOW, you go to school for education. appears someone needs to look up the word hypocrite in the dictionary.
not a given

Fort Wayne, IN

#252 Mar 12, 2008
dstrase wrote:
The NCAA has unofficially put sanctions on IU for next year. By not making a decision on Sampson until late the the summer, any recruit who has other options will drop Indiana like a hot rock. The NCAA has found IU guilty without a hearing, and their is nothing IU can do about it. The basketball program has been shut down by Sampson and the NCAA. Even if Sampson is found not guilty, the punishment will cause IU to lose recruits for next year. Why is the hearing delayed until summer? I think you know the answer.
The NCAA hasn't found iu guilty yet - they have leveled 5 MAJOR violations, however. I think that your complaint should be with iu's administration - they are the ones who kept cellvin around after finding that he had repeated his earlier violations. The timing of this all has sprung from that decision. They should have had the ethics to unload the cheater at that time. Or, better yet, they should have done things like monitor what he was doing, given that he came in with a proven record of circumventing the rules. Or, better still, they shouldn't have hired someone with his track record to begin with.
Hilarious

Crown Point, IN

#253 Mar 13, 2008
hilarious part deux wrote:
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funny how when IU was winning championships, the basketball team was the first thing people talked about. oh NOW, you go to school for education. appears someone needs to look up the word hypocrite in the dictionary.
Basketball may have been the thing we all talk about, probably including yourself, but when it comes to making a decision about where to go to college, it is absolutely stupid of you to think about basketball. This reply is what makes IU haters, PU fans, or whatever you are, look so very, very stupid.
Merrillville Hicks

United States

#254 Mar 13, 2008
Hilarious wrote:
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Apparently, your priorities in life are really screwed up!
Says the idiot who lives on the Indy Star message board trying with all his might to defend a crooked program.
Merrillville Hicks

United States

#255 Mar 13, 2008
Hilarious wrote:
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Then show me the post and anything that resembles a "fact." Show me a post from me about how great Gordon (or Sampson for that matter) was. I know the truth. You can't and won't go back and try to prove me wrong because you don't do that nor could you. You just post the same BS over and over again. As I said, please come back when the penalties for lack of institutional control are handed down. I am sure you'll be sorely disappointed but that won't stop you from crying about cheating, will it.
Again, you obsessed people about Mike are really, really sad.
Dear MIKE (who no longer wants to be known as MIKE to hide his past posting record),

This isn't a court of law MIKE. I have no obligation to prove anything to you, MIKE. It is your responsibility to prove that you (read: MIKE), didn't post anything about Gordon & Sampson. Funny how when things turned for the worst at IU, you stopped posting under that user name, and pretend that it isn't you.

Just like you'll change your user name again when I do come back and laugh about IU getting slammed by the NCAA. Then you'll say, you never posted anything saying about not getting lack of institutional control.

Not to mention that if I took the time and posted your previous posts with IP addresses attached to posts, you would deny it. So, I'm not going to waste my time, because I know, and you know, you are lying and are just trying to hide behind another user name.

You don't even have enough back bone to stand up for what you preached so loudly before, even though it was completely wrong. Just like IU, who wants to sweep past behavior under the rug. You are what is wrong with all the slack jawed IU hillbillies. You run your mouth, but when you are proven wrong you are too weak to admit it... And you continue flapping those jaws.

Yeeeeee Haaaaaaawwww the Hurrying Hillbillies sold their souls for a 3rd place in the Big Ten. How far the land of the dusty banners have sunken
Nick

Owensboro, KY

#256 Mar 13, 2008
Listen boys keep greenspan out of it, wasn't his hire. For the one's who know the identity of the "500,000" by an anonymous donor, look no further than former iu president Adam Herbert. The man felt so bad for hiring sampson, his choice not greenspan's that he pledged the gift anonymously, because he felt that bad. So boys remember know you're facts first, greenspan hired hoeppner, hired the women's coach who is making strides and all in all the sports as a whole are on the rise, so back of greenspan, because he wasn't the culprit.
Chief Illiniwec

Gouldsboro, PA

#257 Mar 13, 2008
Hilarious wrote:
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Technology 101. ISP location is not necessarily the location of the poster. In this case, I am not from Avon even though my ISP is there. Please take a class on internet so you understand the basics.
Riiiigghhht. We believe ya.

“Butler Wins Again”

Since: Jan 08

Connersville, IN

#258 Mar 13, 2008
Want to solve IU's recruiting and program problems. Quit being so arrogant and thinking of yourself as an "elite" program. Sorry, but this program has not been elite since the 1980's. Start thinking about being an honest, FOUR year program again, and recruiting the type of players from Indiana and neighboring states that will stay with the program for four years, graduate, prepared for life, and if good enough, then seek a pro basketball career. Gordon is so touted as a first round draft choice of the NBA. Well, I am sorry, but after watching him all year and last year in the all star series, I don't think he is nearly ready. But greed and ego rules in this sport, and he will probablt believe all the hype and go to the draft. Eric, I beg you, don't listen. Get an education and learn how to play team basketball, losing your selfish play and referee whining, it won't pay off in the pros.

IU, hire a coach who will build a program, not be a self promoter, and will want to stay a while, win or lose.

Next, educate your alumni, make them understand that the championship eras and domination by any program is impossible in today's college basketball world. They must accept the fact that you cannot win every year, actually, most teams can only win once every few years, no matter how good the program, especially in the Big Ten which is now, in their good years, only the 5th or 6th best league in the country.

Saying all this, you Hoosier fans need to understan that Sampson and Greenspan have done terrible damage to your program and it is going to take several years to get it under control again. You must be patient and take the abuse from Purdue and Butler fans who understand that they are now the two dominate Indiana college programs.

“Butler Wins Again”

Since: Jan 08

Connersville, IN

#259 Mar 13, 2008
JerCP81 wrote:
Like I said they have never been a team of national prominence except G-Rob years and they ended up being a huge bust. As far as being dillusional on IU being a national power, if I'm not mistaken, didn't IU play for the national title like 5 years ago and have won 5 national titles (3rd most in history) and in the final 4 in 92. I'd say that resume' is a bit more impressive than Purdue's. When was the last time Purdue has even been in the Final 4? Purdue has been decent at sports. That wasn't my point... My point is, that you Purdue fans have NEVER had the national power in BASKETBALL that IU has. Sorry.
The word is had, that IU had, past tense.
Tales from the Crypt

Gouldsboro, PA

#260 Mar 13, 2008
Hilarious wrote:
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Basketball may have been the thing we all talk about, probably including yourself, but when it comes to making a decision about where to go to college, it is absolutely stupid of you to think about basketball. This reply is what makes IU haters, PU fans, or whatever you are, look so very, very stupid.
You mean they actually try to educate you at iu?
Hmmmm.
Let's play 12 this year. Ha Ha Ha
not a given

Fort Wayne, IN

#261 Mar 13, 2008
Nick wrote:
Listen boys keep greenspan out of it, wasn't his hire. For the one's who know the identity of the "500,000" by an anonymous donor, look no further than former iu president Adam Herbert. The man felt so bad for hiring sampson, his choice not greenspan's that he pledged the gift anonymously, because he felt that bad. So boys remember know you're facts first, greenspan hired hoeppner, hired the women's coach who is making strides and all in all the sports as a whole are on the rise, so back of greenspan, because he wasn't the culprit.
Tell me genius(and I use the term very loosely) WHO was the athletic director when cellvin was hired? Who kept the cheater AFTER he had repeated his previous violations? Yes, greenspan hired Hoeppner, but that was plain luck. While the AD was searching for a name coach to take the job and having no luck Terry contacted HIM. Had Hoeppner not initiated the contact and expressed his interest in the job there's a good chance that he wouldn't have ended up at iu. You give WAY to much credit to greenspan for that hire, and not enough credit for his hire of sampson.
Hilarious

Crown Point, IN

#262 Mar 17, 2008
Merrillville Hicks wrote:
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Dear MIKE (who no longer wants to be known as MIKE to hide his past posting record),
This isn't a court of law MIKE. I have no obligation to prove anything to you, MIKE. It is your responsibility to prove that you (read: MIKE), didn't post anything about Gordon & Sampson. Funny how when things turned for the worst at IU, you stopped posting under that user name, and pretend that it isn't you.
Just like you'll change your user name again when I do come back and laugh about IU getting slammed by the NCAA. Then you'll say, you never posted anything saying about not getting lack of institutional control.
Not to mention that if I took the time and posted your previous posts with IP addresses attached to posts, you would deny it. So, I'm not going to waste my time, because I know, and you know, you are lying and are just trying to hide behind another user name.
You don't even have enough back bone to stand up for what you preached so loudly before, even though it was completely wrong. Just like IU, who wants to sweep past behavior under the rug. You are what is wrong with all the slack jawed IU hillbillies. You run your mouth, but when you are proven wrong you are too weak to admit it... And you continue flapping those jaws.
Yeeeeee Haaaaaaawwww the Hurrying Hillbillies sold their souls for a 3rd place in the Big Ten. How far the land of the dusty banners have sunken
You are hilarious and that is why I use that posting name. All you morons who think I am MIKE can believe what you wnat to believe. I find it enjoyable!

As you so aptly tried to divert the attention away from, you are making the accusation, if you can't back it up with fact, then you ought to stop posting but you just can't help yourself, can you? Your apparent hatred and bitterness makes you the laughing stock of these forums.

BTW, the same IP address from the ISP in no way insinuates the same poster. What exactly do you do for a living because it sure isn't IT, is it?

BTW # 2, Illini (or whatever your ghost school is since you are apparently too embarrassed to say) would be glad for 3rd place instead of 10th out of 11, huh!
Hilarious

Crown Point, IN

#263 Mar 17, 2008
Tales from the Crypt wrote:
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You mean they actually try to educate you at iu?
Hmmmm.
Let's play 12 this year. Ha Ha Ha
You obviously don't follow these forums too often, do you? I don't claim to have graduated from IU. In fact, I did not. That doesn't mean that I can't be a fan, does it?

It doesn't surprise me that you have to divert the post conversation to football when takling about IU.:-)

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