McCamey leads Illinois over No. 25 Mi...

McCamey leads Illinois over No. 25 Missouri 75-59 for 9th strai...

There are 30 comments on the Chicago Tribune story from Dec 23, 2008, titled McCamey leads Illinois over No. 25 Missouri 75-59 for 9th strai.... In it, Chicago Tribune reports that:

Demetri McCamey scored all but two of his 20 points in an almost perfect first half, helping Illinois manhandle No.

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amj67

United States

#1 Dec 23, 2008
For a lively gameblog, check out:

http://dagblog.com/sports/illinois-drubs-miss...
Rall

United States

#2 Dec 23, 2008
Hey amj67. You've got the Illini down pat.
I didn't see the game out here in Michigan, but they took this game without Legion. I figured that he would have had to be in there for the Illini to separate for the blowout. I'm sure that Izzo, Painter, Tubby, and Matta have been put on notice that we're coming now if they weren't before tonight. When Legion melds within the system the Illini are going to be in the hunt for the Big Ten ring. Wow! Go Illini!
John

Melrose Park, IL

#3 Dec 24, 2008
Come on Bill from Massachusetts...find something to complain about! Weber had a horrible game plan and didn't have them prepared for this game, right?
Jay

Decatur, IL

#5 Dec 24, 2008
Bill. It's a blowout over a ranked opponent. Missouri is going to win quite a few games this year and will probably be a tournament team. This win will look very good to the selection committee in March.
Peter

El Paso, TX

#6 Dec 24, 2008
Not much coverage by Tribune of the Illini impressive victory over a good Missouri team. McCamey, Meacham, Frazier, Tisdale and Davis were very good consistently throughout. Unlike the Clemson game where they gave up the lead and faltered in the 2nd half, they kept up the pressure on Mizzou and held it for two halves. Great Job Illini!** Merry Christmas All **
Kiwane was the man

Chicago, IL

#7 Dec 24, 2008
Oskee wow wow Illini!
Rich

Sierra Vista, AZ

#8 Dec 24, 2008
Now if only we can beat the Missouri football team!
Paul E

Chicago, IL

#9 Dec 24, 2008
Bill Self wrote:
This is Missouri we're talking about. Not North Carolina. Not Duke. Missouri.
Winners over Prairie View A&M and Chattannooga and the ever-so-scary Fairfield.
I remember when Illinois used to beat Duke at Duke.
This is nothing to celebrate over.
I agree. This was a nice win over an average team. Pay no atention to rankings. The ranking system is what continues to put teams like Davidson and Gonzaga in the top 25--only to see them fold in the tournament.
Pacman

Northbrook, IL

#10 Dec 24, 2008
Paul E wrote:
<quoted text>I agree. This was a nice win over an average team. Pay no atention to rankings. The ranking system is what continues to put teams like Davidson and Gonzaga in the top 25--only to see them fold in the tournament.
Dear Bill & Paul,

Bah humbug to you. The Iliini played a great game on both ends of the court. It was a nice win. Why the negativity?
Paul E

Chicago, IL

#11 Dec 24, 2008
Pacman wrote:
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Dear Bill & Paul,
Bah humbug to you. The Iliini played a great game on both ends of the court. It was a nice win. Why the negativity?
No negativity here. I said they played a good game. Let's not confuse reality with negativity. As Bill said, this wasn't North Carolina, or Michigan State, or Wisconsin. Win some conference games and we can start to get optimistic.
After all, this is a Bruce Weber coached team.
Peter

El Paso, TX

#12 Dec 24, 2008
Alex Legion after a couple of games has yet to assert himself as the best player on the Illini. Bruce Weber smartly is resisting from allowing Legion to break up the chemistry that is already present and allowing the Illini to have a very impressive start. Alex has been disappointing to some in his game time so far and many are anxious to see how he does with more minutes. Come Big Ten schedule, Alex Legion will find his role with the team as another offensive option to employ by Weber, especially when Meacham or McCamey shots aren't falling. Interchangeable parts are a luxury coaches love to have. Weathering and winning games even though one or more players are having an off game becomes possible when you have more weapons in your arsenal. Alex Legion gives the Illini one more weapon to consistently hit the outside shot and drive the lane which opens up easy baskets for the other players. Once Legion finds his stride and blends into the team cohesively, the Illini will take their game to another level. The main thing holding them back this year from ascending to the very top of the Big Ten is their lack of physicality in the post. Tisdale and Davis will have spurts but just can not hold their own consistently for the Illini to rise to the top this year. They will win some games and have great nights but other times will be counting on Legion and McCamey to bail them out and those two won't always be able to overcome the Illini's inside weakness and lack of bulk. I wish C.J. Jackson was a better player as he is the only one with enough bulk and strength to bang away inside (Like Pittsburgh's Center). Semrau is a little more physical than Tisdale but still not enough and not polished or athletic enough. The Illini have some great recruiting classes coming in the next few years - some GREAT guards and small forwards but not until Meyers Leonard arrives (and has grown to 7' plus of muscle) will they have an incoming legitimate post player. The Illini need Tisdale, Davis and Simpson to bulk up and put on the muscle in the meantime to get far in the NCAA's.
Jay

Decatur, IL

#13 Dec 24, 2008
Peter wrote:
Alex Legion after a couple of games has yet to assert himself as the best player on the Illini. Bruce Weber smartly is resisting from allowing Legion to break up the chemistry that is already present and allowing the Illini to have a very impressive start. Alex has been disappointing to some in his game time so far and many are anxious to see how he does with more minutes. Come Big Ten schedule, Alex Legion will find his role with the team as another offensive option to employ by Weber, especially when Meacham or McCamey shots aren't falling. Interchangeable parts are a luxury coaches love to have. Weathering and winning games even though one or more players are having an off game becomes possible when you have more weapons in your arsenal. Alex Legion gives the Illini one more weapon to consistently hit the outside shot and drive the lane which opens up easy baskets for the other players. Once Legion finds his stride and blends into the team cohesively, the Illini will take their game to another level. The main thing holding them back this year from ascending to the very top of the Big Ten is their lack of physicality in the post. Tisdale and Davis will have spurts but just can not hold their own consistently for the Illini to rise to the top this year. They will win some games and have great nights but other times will be counting on Legion and McCamey to bail them out and those two won't always be able to overcome the Illini's inside weakness and lack of bulk. I wish C.J. Jackson was a better player as he is the only one with enough bulk and strength to bang away inside (Like Pittsburgh's Center). Semrau is a little more physical than Tisdale but still not enough and not polished or athletic enough. The Illini have some great recruiting classes coming in the next few years - some GREAT guards and small forwards but not until Meyers Leonard arrives (and has grown to 7' plus of muscle) will they have an incoming legitimate post player. The Illini need Tisdale, Davis and Simpson to bulk up and put on the muscle in the meantime to get far in the NCAA's.
Agree with everything you said unless you expect Legion to become the best player on this team. I'm not sure if that was what you were implying or not. But, for the remainder of this season and the next two I don't expect him to overcome McCamey as the best player. I hope and believe that he can become a great compliment to him though.

Also, is Simpson red-shirting this year? Definetly think he should.
dean

Trivoli, IL

#14 Dec 24, 2008
Pacman wrote:
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Dear Bill & Paul,
Bah humbug to you. The Iliini played a great game on both ends of the court. It was a nice win. Why the negativity?
Pacman - Paul is no doubt a disgruntled IU fan who is unhappy w/what a mess Sampson has left them in and as for Bill of Amesbury MA, who claims to be an Illini alum (w/two degrees if I recall correctly) never has anything good to say about UI or Bruce Weber. I view him as the resident contrarian whose prattle is intended to generate response so that he can come back with more. I would miss him (or her I am not sure which)if he decided his mission here was done. Bill, its good to see you are gaining a following. I note several have posted in response to your usual anti-Illini line.
Merry Christmas - Bill
Scott the Engineer

Chicago, IL

#15 Dec 24, 2008
Bill Self wrote:
This is Missouri we're talking about. Not North Carolina. Not Duke. Missouri.
Winners over Prairie View A&M and Chattannooga and the ever-so-scary Fairfield.
I remember when Illinois used to beat Duke at Duke.
This is nothing to celebrate over.
Great - the bitter Bill Self lover from Amesbury is back
Peter

El Paso, TX

#16 Dec 24, 2008
From what I have seen of Legion he has looked a bit disjointed out there. But when he had his 18 minutes, his passes looked more crisp than any other Illini player. Once his nerves settle down and he can get into the flow of the game, I'm sure his shots will fall consistently and he will overtake McCamey as their best player. It is too early to judge Legion yet on his play so far but in time his better polish and athleticism will become quite evident. In any case McCamey, Legion, Meacham, Frazier will make for good to great guard play this year with most able replacements for Frazier and Meacham coming in next year. The biggest problem this year will be lack of muscle and consistency inside. Opposing big men from Big Ten teams will have a field day more often than not. The guard play will then have to step up to win.
Dennis

United States

#17 Dec 24, 2008
Paul E wrote:
<quoted text>I agree. This was a nice win over an average team. Pay no atention to rankings. The ranking system is what continues to put teams like Davidson and Gonzaga in the top 25--only to see them fold in the tournament.
Good point, except for the fact that Davidson made a run deep into the NCAA tourney last year- almost beating Kansas(lost by 3). And Gonzaga has an impressive NCAA tourney record over the last 5 years. Keep up the good work!
Paul E

Chicago, IL

#18 Dec 24, 2008
dean wrote:
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Pacman - Paul is no doubt a disgruntled IU fan who is unhappy w/what a mess Sampson has left them in ...
????
Because I have a realistic expectations of the team I am a Hoosier fan? I don't get the connection. I grew up in downstate Illinois, have two degrees from Illinois, live in Evanston, have two kids at the school, and have been watching them for 30 years. I have seen enough 10-0, 11-0, 10-1 preseasons to know that they mean nothing in early January when the real season starts.

Merry Christmas to all!
Paul E

Chicago, IL

#19 Dec 24, 2008
Dennis wrote:
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Good point, except for the fact that Davidson made a run deep into the NCAA tourney last year- almost beating Kansas(lost by 3). And Gonzaga has an impressive NCAA tourney record over the last 5 years. Keep up the good work!
OK, Gonzaga lost their first games each of the last two years (as a top 25 ranked team.) This is hardly impressive. And Davidson was an unranked team that went deep into the tournament. That is exactly my point. Now they are ranked and could fold like the other wannabe schools that get some national love.
dean

Trivoli, IL

#20 Dec 24, 2008
Paul E wrote:
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????
Because I have a realistic expectations of the team I am a Hoosier fan? I don't get the connection. I grew up in downstate Illinois, have two degrees from Illinois, live in Evanston, have two kids at the school, and have been watching them for 30 years. I have seen enough 10-0, 11-0, 10-1 preseasons to know that they mean nothing in early January when the real season starts.

Merry Christmas to all!
Paul E - My bad, your Munster IN location led me astray. I intend no disrespect to true Illini fans. After the unending crap that we rec'd from Bill Self and others of his ilk last year and earlier this year, before UI was letting it be known that they might be something more than some expected, it is good to enjoy some success that just might indicate that this team has something good in store for us this year and we don't have to wait to next year and beyond. So my response was motivated out of the desire to enjoy the present and not diminish an important game. I realize that a good record in the pre-conference schedule doesn't indicate all that much, but most every team's schedule is loaded with cupcakes, including the Duke's and UNC's of the world and the real proof is to come. I am 40+ year Illini fan. I am an NIU grad, which I am proud of, but I have always regreted that I didn't graduate from the UI so that my status as a fan could be further validated by being an alum. Go Illini & Seasons Greetings to all Illini fans of good will.
Disgusted

Newport Coast, CA

#22 Dec 24, 2008
Bill Self wrote:
This is Missouri we're talking about. Not North Carolina. Not Duke. Missouri.
Winners over Prairie View A&M and Chattannooga and the ever-so-scary Fairfield.
I remember when Illinois used to beat Duke at Duke.
This is nothing to celebrate over.
Yeah, it's a damn shame they didn't lose. Can I say Merry Christmas" to you or will you find something negtive about it?

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